I was shocked how swampy it was^^ Yeah, your description is quite fitting. You know Mozartkugeln, best thing about Austria :)
DMZ, I'm sorry if I brought a trial on that requires you to summon walls of text each post. I hope to keep it short and keep us moving forward with a plot.
Since you only know of Zahur, yourself and Pitr who wield such a weapon you might already have an idea. Yet you have to make sure that no villager or guard sneakd into the tower during the fight...hard to prove, but maybe it's enough for Solaric to know what happened, even if he cannot accuse Pitr.
My bad, I should have said the Count cut all their tongues out :)
@ Solaric: Did you have the opportunity to take a look at Faiths of Purity? Some nice new things (traits, feats, spells) for Solaric and also a code for the paladins of Iomedae in it.
uhoh...celebrity death match between Solaric and Pitr?!
uhoh...celebrity death match between Solaric and Pitr?!
The forces of CHAOS shall prevail!! Blood and Souls, Lord Arioch!
How do you feel about a common ooc thread for all my PBPs? Would make some things easier and coulb be more communicative.
AFK 30 hours.
No death match til I return plzkthx!
Oh abd Victoria will do her best to conspire to take over Jarovicha, at least as its Steward, if not outright claim :p
Pitr, you seem very good at pushing Solaric's buttons yourself. The tension has been building and the dark elf has been letting a lot slide, but I think the killing of Sasha may have pushed him over the edge. You are an exceptional role-player and you have definitely done a superb job of being a real thorn in Solaric's side. I am having a terrific time with Solaric, but will you please tell me if my paladin is taking the fun out of the game for you. And that goes for any of you as well. I can lighten up if needed, but if I am true to the dark elf's form, this is going to escalate even further. I have been reading some paladin discussion posts, and many people just can't stand paladins. This usually comes from alignment differences. Differences such as Pitr's and Solarics. So I don't want to end up being one of those paladins that everyone says,"Oh No their is a paladin in my party! What do I do!" Just let me know, Voodoo, even though Solaric annoys Pitr to his core, does he annoy you too? Are you ok with Solaric trying to put you up for trial as well?
Honestly as a player, yeah, in my opinion you’re overdoing it. I certainly appreciate a paladin being true to his vows and I’m glad you are taking that seriously, but personally I feel like you’re kind of dominating the game. I find the sparring between Pitr and Solaric realistic and fun. I don’t find Solaric making arbitrary decisions to release prisoners, healing enemies instead of supporting party members that are getting their butts kicked by the evil wizard, or running kangaroo courts all that fun. Yeah, and rather rude not allowing Pitr first whack at the AoO on Jarovich after all he went through.
I don’t expect Solaric would be happy about Pitr killing off a prisoner, but neither do I think prosecuting him is particularly interesting. Captives are always a touchy issue. If there is legitimate authority around I think Pitr could be talked into turning them over if the majority of the party agreed. Definitely beats a town meeting after each battle. I'd rather focus on taking out the Death Cult.
As I said, I like paladins, but it definitely requires finesse to play one and not step on toes. Good luck with that. ; )
Well, Voodoo, I am sorry that you feel that I am dominating the game. I was worried about this issue from the start, but you have all encouraged me to post and role play as frequently as I liked. I certainly had no intention of taking the fun away from any of you. I sometimes cannot help myself. This was my first PBP and have not always been aware the etiquette needed. I also find it difficult to read each of your thoughts and feelings, especially through characters that do not agree with mine. However, I will make a point to tone Solaric down. Please let me know if there is anything further that I can do for the group.
In regards to the AOO, you could still have rolled, for we could have both taken the Count down together. I was under the impression that both attacks would have occurred simultaneously. I meant no offense in attacking the Count and did not mean to be rude. I offer you my apologies.
No biggie on finishing Jarovich. I wouldn't have brought it up except you asked and it did irk me a bit. minor point though. My main point being remember this is an ensemble game. We didn't all want to run paladins obviously so tone down the evangelism and control issues.
Case in point, Why not let the party serve as the jury as Kirk suggested? I have a feeling it'd be a split vote as well depending on which way the Countess went. Sounds like she has some political ambitions of her own for the town so I couldn't tell : ).
Pitr at this point doesn't really feel strongly about the trial and is ready to head back to his beloved city of Karcau. (and maybe get a few more xp on the way)
Question for DMZ, was there a dungeon level we skipped by not taking the tunnel from the tower? Do we still need to clear that out?
The dungeon level were the zombie barracks beneath the castle, by killing all the zombies on the surface you also killed all inhabitants of the dungeon :)
Well FWIW I find the ongoing sparring between Kirk and Solaric rather entertaining.
I don't think dominatting is quite right, and indeed I thought it was ME dominating early so eased off about it a tad... that said Solaric can frankly carry on his paladinhood to the hilt, the sticking point is whether the party gives in to his demands etc, and how he deals with getting told 'no'.
If it came down to a trial with the party chairing it then Victoria would probably have the Captain and the Nephew dangling on a rope in minutes. On one hand it would satisfy her rather cold blooded and ruthless sense of law and order, and the balance that must be maintained - 'justice of the Crown', whilst at the same time it would play right into very useful populist politics.
Hard on law and order, fair in payments and budget...
A perfect Feudal ruler :)
After thinking about it, I'd rather like you to solve the whole issue in-character. Maybe the party should tell Solaric (again) that this is a democracy (boo Andoran...)?! If they don't I think it's hard to blame an eager paladin to take control :)
Well... Kirk has stayed out of the trial business mostly because he knows that the Captain will die one way or the other. Someone's gotta die when Kirk becomes an Assassin, right? Why not someone who he already feels deserves it? Of course, if he goes off and becomes some warrior of Iomedae... well, we'll see.
Thanks for your comments, Victoria!
Case in point, Why not let the party serve as the jury as Kirk suggested? I have a feeling it'd be a split vote as well depending on which way the Countess went.
Pitr, I didn't think the party would make a good jury because I hate the idea that a group of city slickers can walk into the town and determine what is best for them. If the town hangs or frees anyone then that is fine, but at least its their own decision. This is certainly a campaign filled with morale decisions and sometimes it feels like negotiating a land mine both with the player characters and in trying to determine what is right to do. Sometimes I think it would be a lot easier if I was chaotic neutral, could throw responsibility to the wind and do whatever the hell I wanted. Sometimes l still struggle with being a paladin, the code, and with the entire concept of lawful good in this fantasy setting.
I know that slaying an evil tyrant is a good thing. But somehow I can't help but wonder if by slaying this dictator we have actually thrown this town into chaos where there is no law and order. How good is that? Consequently, I feel compelled to create some order in this town before we leave.
I also wonder where forgiveness and compassion fit into the lawful good alignment and how compelled I should be to avenge evil deeds. Pitr slaying Sasha seemed pretty evil to me, but then again, Sasha was a known spy that tried to have us killed. It sounds like justice is being served by his death. On the other hand if Pitr's assassination of Sasha was evil, what is Solaric's responsibility for dealing with that? But if Solaric goes out and forgives Sasha and the Captain, is he forsaking his code by allowing those that were evil to live? Maybe he should forgive Pitr and even praise him for simply executing justice swiftly. I find myself struggling to simply be a good, kind, and just knight right now. I feel like I'm ranting, but I'm not sure how to play Solaric at this moment. Zyren, how flexibile is the paladin code in your campaign. If I try to be good, and do no obviously evil acts, can Solaric be in any danger of losing his paladinhood? What if I chose to forgive and not avenge an evil deed? Does this jeopardize the code? I did just get Faiths of Purity. Maybe tonight I will reread the paladin codes and see if it gives me some direction. Thanks!
This is certainly a campaign filled with moral decisions.
for a paladin, yes, but the same could be said for every campaign. that's how paladins roll. best novelized paladin I recall was the Deeds of Paksnarrion (sp?) series. she drew the line at torture, but not execution IIRC.
Consequently, I feel compelled to create some order in this town before we leave.
I think Countess could definitely fill that void. But honestly it ain't a democracy. Whoever rules makes the rules. Fairness and justice have nothing to do with it outside of Andoran. Better to kill the old guard and try to find a better lord unless you want to claim the holding, Solaric.
Pitr slaying Sasha seemed pretty evil to me.
It was basically an execution. Perhaps for the wrong reasons, but not definitely evil. I think just about every nation you could think of would have killed someone for treason until recent history. US still would, not sure about our more enlightened neighbors. As far as the game, we are the government once we killed the Count as far as the peasants are concerned.
but as DMZ suggests i'll play this out.
I just want to say sorry if I've seemed a little quiet lately, I just moved to a new city and I'm trying to find a summer job. Once I get into the swing of things, I'll be on a normal posting schedule again.
I'm not one to take away such a thing as paladinhood away froma PC fast, in fact this seesm quite absurd for me. If you would start to act openly evil, then I would otherwise the god'S also notice that you have alot of hard decisions to make.
Guys, in hospital a few days it looks. Went in last night and another.likely
?? you ok? Get well soon!
Shifty, I am sorry to hear the news. I hope this wasn't unexpected! Take care of yourself!
Sorry to hear that, Shifty. Hope all is well.
Goodluck, Shifty! I hope it's nothing too serious, and if it is I hope it all works out for you. We'll miss you even though it's only a few days :P
I hope we here something more tomorrow :-/
Hi gall bladder decided it doesn't love me
Surgeons say might yank it tomorrow.
Shifty, I wish you all the best. Let's hope cure light wounds will suffice when this is over and the doc will not need to pull out a scroll for cure critical wounds. I will be thinking about you. Get well soon!
The GALL of that bladder! (sorry about that.) : ) Best wishes for an easy operation and quick recovery if it should come to that, Shifty!
I keep my fingers crossed for you! Get well very soon-Don't forget we need you here :)
Surgery tomorrow, out a day or two after... looking forward to it
Just checked OCC posts today. Hope everything goes well today and take care of yourself.
Thanks guys should be released in 24 hrs. Went well, and the medical team had positive comments
booya! That's good news!
Good to hear, Shifty!
Hey All, just wanted to let you know I'll be moving this weekend and posting may be infrequent over the next few days.
Good luck with your move, Pitr!
Great news Shifty! Good luck Pitr, I know the feeling. Just moved a few weeks back and still looking for stuff in boxes.
Good luck Pitr.
Common OOC room, now under: Campfire