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Tacticslion wrote:

No, it's definitely O-Chul. Galahad is cool and all, but the Authurian Legend is kind of a downer, despite its ending in some amount of glory.

Certainly Galahad is the best in his omniverse, however! :D

Lord Fyre wrote:
No. O-Chul is a much more badass Paladin.

I'm uncertain if you're attempting to agree or disagree with me - but you are, effectively, agreeing with me. :)

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

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Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

No, it's definitely O-Chul. Galahad is cool and all, but the Authurian Legend is kind of a downer, despite its ending in some amount of glory.

Certainly Galahad is the best in his omniverse, however! :D

Lord Fyre wrote:
O-Chul is a much more badass Paladin.
I'm uncertain if you're attempting to agree or disagree with me - but you are, effectively, agreeing with me. :)

I think I was agreeing and providing evidence for what you were saying.

Dark Archive

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O-Chul Unites the message boards!

O-Chul for President!


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

No, it's definitely O-Chul. Galahad is cool and all, but the Authurian Legend is kind of a downer, despite its ending in some amount of glory.

Certainly Galahad is the best in his omniverse, however! :D

Lord Fyre wrote:
O-Chul is a much more badass Paladin.
I'm uncertain if you're attempting to agree or disagree with me - but you are, effectively, agreeing with me. :)
I think I was agreeing and providing evidence for what you were saying.

Awesome! English can be funny, so it's always best to be sure to clarify with someone else, if you're not 100% sure! :D

(And yes, O-Chul is the best!)

baron arem heshvaun wrote:


O-Chul Unites the message boards!

O-Chul for President!

I'd vote for him!


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He's a uniter, not a divider!

Scarab Sages

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It would be nice to vote for an actual good candidate, instead of the lesser evil.

Silver Crusade

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Vote Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil?


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I'd vote for Xykon. He's very successful, he tells it like it is, and his fingers are not abnormally skinny at all!


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Other times, not so much.


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Is that... the ex-Banjo-worshiping cannibal guy riding a gray Ythrak?


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Tacticslion wrote:
guy riding a gray Ythrak?

No, he's riding a Sonic Reptilian Unicorn!

(New comic!)


Andostre wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
guy riding a gray Ythrak?

No, he's riding a Sonic Reptilian Unicorn!

(New comic!)

Gah! Beat me to the link by seconds! (You literally posted while I was waiting for this page to load fast enough to post.) Well done!

Scarab Sages

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Andostre wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
guy riding a gray Ythrak?

No, he's riding a Sonic Reptilian Unicorn!

(New comic!)

Sonic Reptilian Unicorn! - now with a working link!


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You mean I still could have had the first working link?!

Nnnnnooooooooooooooooo~! Curse my humility* for presuming someone beat me to it!

* No, don't. I need that. A lot.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Gah! Beat me to the link by seconds! (You literally posted while I was waiting for this page to load fast enough to post.) Well done!

YESSSSSSSS!

Imbicatus wrote:
Sonic Reptilian Unicorn! - now with a working link!

NOOOOOOOOO!

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

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"If I ever quit the Paladins and start a punk rock band, at least now I have the perfect name for it."


I'm just waiting for that band to form, personally.

Though I don't see why she couldn't be both... >.>

Dark Archive

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Tacticslion wrote:
Curse my humility* for presuming someone beat me to it!

Honourable Tacticslion son

You are quite well known for how greatly you share your humility with others.

;)

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

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Tacticslion wrote:

I'm just waiting for that band to form, personally.

Though I don't see why she couldn't be both... >.>

Once her people are safely resettled, maybe.

Sovereign Court

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#1034: Always a Good Rule of Thumb


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Heh. "In lieu of a plan, you should keep shooting."

Always valid for adventurers.

Silver Crusade

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I love the comment about Elan.


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"This is a rare combat situation where there is no one we, as paladins, need to defend. Nothing is at stake, other than our own lives."

That may be the most rational paladin comment ever. ;-)


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Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...

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Drejk wrote:
Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...

This made me realize that while Durkon was a pretty good example of how to deal with Paladins (even the Miko-style ones), there is no example in oots of the classic trope of players who do their best to enrage / take advantage of / have the Paladin fall.


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The Raven Black wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...
This made me realize that while Durkon was a pretty good example of how to deal with Paladins (even the Miko-style ones), there is no example in oots of the classic trope of players who do their best to enrage / take advantage of / have the Paladin fall.

Didn't Belkar do exactly this? He was even willing to die just to get Miko to fall.

Liberty's Edge

Jack of Dust wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...
This made me realize that while Durkon was a pretty good example of how to deal with Paladins (even the Miko-style ones), there is no example in oots of the classic trope of players who do their best to enrage / take advantage of / have the Paladin fall.
Didn't Belkar do exactly this? He was even willing to die just to get Miko to fall.

But I could sympathize with Belkar there :-)

I think of players that would do the same for O-chul and would not stop until he fell. Those are more common actually than those who would have Miko fall IMO.


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The Raven Black wrote:
Jack of Dust wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...
This made me realize that while Durkon was a pretty good example of how to deal with Paladins (even the Miko-style ones), there is no example in oots of the classic trope of players who do their best to enrage / take advantage of / have the Paladin fall.
Didn't Belkar do exactly this? He was even willing to die just to get Miko to fall.

But I could sympathize with Belkar there :-)

I think of players that would do the same for O-chul and would not stop until he fell. Those are more common actually than those who would have Miko fall IMO.

Miko was definitely a live grenade. Still, given Belkar's disdain for Paladins in general, he probably would attempt to make other paladins fall if there wasn't always some other pressing matter at hand.

Liberty's Edge

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Jack of Dust wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
Jack of Dust wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Those two and Hinjo should be showed to all would-be paladin players how to play a paladin and Miko how to not play a paladin...
This made me realize that while Durkon was a pretty good example of how to deal with Paladins (even the Miko-style ones), there is no example in oots of the classic trope of players who do their best to enrage / take advantage of / have the Paladin fall.
Didn't Belkar do exactly this? He was even willing to die just to get Miko to fall.

But I could sympathize with Belkar there :-)

I think of players that would do the same for O-chul and would not stop until he fell. Those are more common actually than those who would have Miko fall IMO.

Miko was definitely a live grenade. Still, given Belkar's disdain for Paladins in general, he probably would attempt to make other paladins fall if there wasn't always some other pressing matter at hand.

I think it took Miko's overweening self-righteousness to make Belkar quite so motivated, though. A lot of the other Sapphire Order paladins were far more pleasant to be around; I don't see Belkar going out of his way to tempt/push them into falling.

Dark Archive

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I can sense a new strip this week.

Silver Crusade

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Me too

Liberty's Edge

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Hmm. Devious tricky Paladins. Me like


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I hate myself for asking this, but...

When she took off the ring of water breathing, wouldn't that still leave her lungs full of water?


Andostre wrote:

I hate myself for asking this, but...

When she took off the ring of water breathing, wouldn't that still leave her lungs full of water?

Depends on how it works.

Given that it's a smooth transition, unless a lot of energy was spent defying physics and biology in even more complex ways, the easiest explanation is, "Nope." because she doesn't gag or cough or wretch or anything delightful like that when she first enters the water. In which case, the spell probably removes the heavy water and leaves you with fresh air. Hence she floats instead of sinking and holding her breath after removing the ring.

(Though if you rule it the other way, that makes more sense, biologically and physically - it's just you'll be choking for a bit during the transition as your lungs fill up with water.)

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. It's going to be really weird, no matter what. It's just going to make even less sense, due to less-obvious reasons otherwise.


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Also:
"Trust me."
"Always."

... Da-GUMMIT, this comic makes me love paladins.

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Andostre wrote:

I hate myself for asking this, but...

When she took off the ring of water breathing, wouldn't that still leave her lungs full of water?

That isn't actually a problem until the next time she tries to breathe air.

They can buddy breathe, passing the ring back and forth every few rounds, for awhile without a problem.

Liberty's Edge

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I wonder what kind of armor they are wearing

Dark Archive

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The Raven Black wrote:
I wonder what kind of armor they are wearing

The only armor in all the worlds even more potent than legendary Mithril Adamantine armor.

Plot Armor.


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I know people IRL that can swim in platemail, so the idea that relatively high level Paladins can do it (or at least the one whose career is based around the water) can doesn't surprise me.


Caineach wrote:
I know people IRL that can swim in platemail, so the idea that relatively high level Paladins can do it (or at least the one whose career is based around the water) can doesn't surprise me.

I don't even actually see them swimming. Technically, by RAW, do they sink more than they are, now?


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Tacticslion wrote:
Caineach wrote:
I know people IRL that can swim in platemail, so the idea that relatively high level Paladins can do it (or at least the one whose career is based around the water) can doesn't surprise me.
I don't even actually see them swimming. Technically, by RAW, do they sink more than they are, now?

By RAW, they...uh, aw, crap, now I got to pull out Stormwrack.


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Hrmm, the Rules Compendium doesn't say anything about how heavy you need to be to sink, and doesn't even mention sinking in its section on underwater combat. The word "sink" doesn't appear anywhere in the RC.

However, the RC does say

Underwater Combat, Rules Compendium pg 149 wrote:

Creatures have firm footing when walking along the

bottom, braced against a ship’s hull, or the like. A creature can walk along the bottom only if it wears or carries
enough gear to weigh itself down—at least 16 pounds for
Medium creatures, twice that for each size category larger
than Medium, and half that for each size category smaller
than Medium.

...and I think that's all the information on the RAW you can get without cracking open Stormwrack, for which I don't have a PDF and am not near my physical copy.


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They wear plot armor of buyancy, no other explanation needed ;)


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well, in pathfinder, DC10 check to tread water. Assume Str +3 and 1 rank in swim, then they still have a +1 after ACP.

Dark Archive

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Caineach wrote:
well, in pathfinder, DC10 check to tread water. Assume Str +3 and 1 rank in swim, then they still have a +1 after ACP.

In my next life may I please copy off you in high school Calculus?

Liberty's Edge

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I think she has a kind of floating armor while he does not (she keeps him afloat, even after giving him her ring).

Notice how the strip about the cold handily dismissed any arguments about how they can survive immersion in cold water ;-)

Dark Archive

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It got shelved next to the arguments about the flying sonic reptilian unicorns being cold or warm blooded and how something that large can fly and still have a capacity for rider.

;)

Sovereign Court

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I like the new umbrella

Grand Lodge

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Bloody finally.

Liberty's Edge

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Bloody finally.

Yeah, I was getting pretty tired of the old umbrella myself.

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