Anything better than the iPad out there?


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I'm not sure about the Android PDF readers, but in GoodReader for iOS you can "crop" a PDFs page area. A very handy trick for Paizo PDFs in general as they do tend to have a lot of margin space. Check your PDF viewers and see if you have that option exists, basically a force "zoom" area. If your new to "tablety things" you may want to watch for this kind of option as it can make the difference between comfortably readable and not so nice.

@Kruelaid, this is not a criticism I agree generally Apple's 1st party apps have almost always been inferior to the creative minds of independent developers. However as a long time Mac user, this has almost always been the case even as far back as the Apple ][. 3rd party software offerings trump 1st party, its what makes any OS/Computer/Console viable. Even on Windows, I'd hardly call Microsoft's programs my reason for having an XP BootCamp partition. It's all about "really cool" 3rd party apps I can't get else where.

@DanQnA, good point about the backup folder. Actually that "restore from backup" was how I got my iPad 2 setup very quickly based on my iPod's backup data. I "restored" my iPad using my iPod's backup, then went in and fiddled with getting some iPad only apps setup correctly (shakes fist at GoodReader not being a Universal Binary). *sigh* At least GoodReader has the WebDAV file access, makes doing a full dump from one device to another less problematic.

Liberty's Edge

Kruelaid wrote:
Skeld wrote:

I won an iPad at my company Christmas party (translation: I have nothing personally invested in it). I also own an Android phone (Motorola Droid) and my wife has a NookColor.

My feelings are that the iPad is a nice piece of hardware, but that the operating system is inferior to Androind (v2.2+). While it's easy to use and seems to run fairly smooth, iPad still suffers from "Apple mentality." In other words, Apple seems to throw up alot of unnecessary roadblocks that impede my use of the device. I'm mainly talking about the entire "must sync with iTunes" portion of using the iPad. Apple wants me to use the iPad the way they want me to use the iPad, not the way I might want to use the iPad. It's unnecessary iBaggage.

I'm still somewhat of an iPad noob and I haven't fully explored the device. However, my initial evaluation is that, once Android tablets/devices start penetrating the market, Apple will have painted itself into a corner again by forcing users down predetermined paths of usage.

On the other hand, once I bought GoodReader, Paizo PDFs do look nice on the iPad. $500 nice? Probably not.

-Skeld

This is more or less my take. I've used an iPad quite a bit at my friend's house, but don't own it. My wife has an iPhone 4 though and we've had nothing but problems figuring out the whole iTunes thing. It's a serious mess. For example, there seems to be no way included in the iTunes "system" to move her sync to another computer--just a lot of fixes from people on messageboards. Of all the problems we've had, that seems to be the dumbest.

There's just no way I'm going to subject myself to Apple's BS just so I can get access to some really cool apps (that weren't even made by Apple).... yah... what makes iPad and iPhone cool is not Apple, it's the folks making the apps.

Your allowed up to five computers to be synced. Under the tab "store" authorize the computer you want the stuff transferred to.

Turn "home shareing" on and under the advance tab.

Have both computers open over a wireless network (haven't tried an eathernet cord s not sure if you can).

The left side where you navigate between music, tv's, movie's, etc....there is a "shared" area.

Enter that and they then just drag and drop from this "shared library" to your newly authorized computer.

You can also just have it automatically sync content from one computer to another.

Sean


thenorthman wrote:

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Your allowed up to five computers to be synced. Under the tab "store" authorize the computer you want the stuff transferred to.

Turn "home shareing" on and under...

Cool. But I don't get it--I'm not trying to move a library. I want her phone to sync on the other authorized computer.


Kruelaid wrote:
thenorthman wrote:

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Your allowed up to five computers to be synced. Under the tab "store" authorize the computer you want the stuff transferred to.

Turn "home shareing" on and under...

Cool. But I don't get it--I'm not trying to move a library. I want her phone to sync on the other authorized computer.

Apple has always had the policy of one iPod (iPhone, iPad) syncs to one computer. If you are trying to treat it like a BlackBerry or other PDA that can Sync with several different computers, stop. Unless you're prepared for some fair amounted of hacking (modification) that will likely be voided in the next iTunes updated.

What you can do is make sure all the content she wants is on the new computer and then move the Backup data over as mentioned above. Then you blank and resync the phone to the new computer.... I'll have to try it but I think you can even backup the phone on the new computer which may skip some nasty steps.

From then on the iPhone will be sync with that computer and no other.

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Another option would be to avoid syncing entirely and manage everything manually. I do this with my iPad so I can get at load and off-load video content on different computers. The only thing sync right now is Photos because I had a tough time figuring out how to load new ones manually (I'm going over some old trip photos). Everything else I manually drag and drop to the iPad through iTunes.

Now this could all be a moot point in less then a week with WWDC coming up. It is unknown what all the changes in iOS5 will be. Considering the nebulous iCould service and a greater focus by Apple on cloud computing (BackToMy Mac, etc), perhaps that limitation on only syncing to one computer will be altered.

Grand Lodge

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Kruelaid wrote:
Apple).... yah... what makes iPad and iPhone cool is not Apple, it's the folks making the apps.

And basically when it comes down to it, without the apps, a tablet is just a paperweight.

Liberty's Edge

Kruelaid wrote:
thenorthman wrote:

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Your allowed up to five computers to be synced. Under the tab "store" authorize the computer you want the stuff transferred to.

Turn "home shareing" on and under...

Cool. But I don't get it--I'm not trying to move a library. I want her phone to sync on the other authorized computer.

Things synched over the air shouldn't be a problem for you--calendars, contacts, bookmarks, notes, etc. If you want to synch the iPhone with two computers because they both have different photo albums or music libraries, homesharing is the only way I know to do it. You can drag items out of a homesharing link (like music from an iTunes library) and then have a copy on more than one computer, but that's not the case (I'm not sure why) with the mobile devices.

I complained about this a lot for a long time, but as it turned out, updating apps, email, contacts, notes, calendars, etc. Is easier (to me) over the air. All the music and video is managed off of one computer to all the others via homesharing, and I just plug the iPhone and iPad into that one computer to update music or video I want to carry around.


Andrew Turner wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
thenorthman wrote:

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Your allowed up to five computers to be synced. Under the tab "store" authorize the computer you want the stuff transferred to.

Turn "home shareing" on and under...

Cool. But I don't get it--I'm not trying to move a library. I want her phone to sync on the other authorized computer.

Things synched over the air shouldn't be a problem for you--calendars, contacts, bookmarks, notes, etc. If you want to synch the iPhone with two computers because they both have different photo albums or music libraries, homesharing is the only way I know to do it. You can drag items out of a homesharing link (like music from an iTunes library) and then have a copy on more than one computer, but that's not the case (I'm not sure why) with the mobile devices.

I complained about this a lot for a long time, but as it turned out, updating apps, email, contacts, notes, calendars, etc. Is easier (to me) over the air. All the music and video is managed off of one computer to all the others via homesharing, and I just plug the iPhone and iPad into that one computer to update music or video I want to carry around.

I see.

My problem is that my wife is going to be away from the home computer for a few months so I need her to be able to sync with her laptop.

Liberty's Edge

Kruelaid wrote:

I see.

My problem is that my wife is going to be away from the home computer for a few months so I need her to be able to sync with her laptop.

Oh, sorry. I've had to do the same thing before--just this last February, actually. I don't think there's any reasonable way around it. I hate doing it, too--it always takes a couple hours or more to fully synch with a new computer, then there's the bother of resynching when you return home.

Maybe someone else will respond with an easy hack or workaround.


LazarX wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Apple).... yah... what makes iPad and iPhone cool is not Apple, it's the folks making the apps.
And basically when it comes down to it, without the apps, a tablet is just a paperweight.

This goes for any computer of any size, make or model. If you don't have programs, you're likely not doing much.

Even a programmer needs a compiler.

Applications make the machine... assuming the OS doesn't get in the way.

Greg


So far I've only found two sites for getting it to sync on two computers (we are talking two Windows based PCs yes?)

http://www.therealmacgenius.com/2010/03/how-to-sync-iphone-ipod-touch-or-ip od-with-multiple-computers/

Which I think is a mirror of

http://www.theiphoneguru.net/?p=9552

Both talk about needing to use Hex editors to replace ID codes. Some commenters have had success moving the iTunes Library folders over, and getting it to work. In essence this whole trick comes down to getting both iTunes and the iPhone to think the two computers are actually the same one with the same ID. I don't think you can get any "simpler" or faster then that.


GregH wrote:


This goes for any computer of any size, make or model. If you don't have programs, you're likely not doing much.

Even a programmer needs a compiler.

Applications make the machine... assuming the OS doesn't get in the way.

Greg

True dat.

I guess what I mean is that (1)the regulation of the appstore and (2) the exceptional platform make* the iPhone really stand out from other phones in this sense. As opposed to say a Macbook pro and my HP Envy, where I can't really find much to make a distinction. It's just Apple hate or fanboism going head to head.

*(or made--competition is fierce--android looks like it is doing very well)


Dorje Sylas wrote:

So far I've only found two sites for getting it to sync on two computers (we are talking two Windows based PCs yes?)

http://www.therealmacgenius.com/2010/03/how-to-sync-iphone-ipod-touch-or-ip od-with-multiple-computers/

Which I think is a mirror of

http://www.theiphoneguru.net/?p=9552

Both talk about needing to use Hex editors to replace ID codes. Some commenters have had success moving the iTunes Library folders over, and getting it to work. In essence this whole trick comes down to getting both iTunes and the iPhone to think the two computers are actually the same one with the same ID. I don't think you can get any "simpler" or faster then that.

I'm happy if I can just migrate the damn thing conveniently. Apple's failure to provide for this seems to be a MAJOR fumble.


Dorje Sylas wrote:

I'm not sure about the Android PDF readers, but in GoodReader for iOS you can "crop" a PDFs page area. A very handy trick for Paizo PDFs in general as they do tend to have a lot of margin space. Check your PDF viewers and see if you have that option exists, basically a force "zoom" area. If your new to "tablety things" you may want to watch for this kind of option as it can make the difference between comfortably readable and not so nice.

Oh man! How did I go this long without knowing about this crop feature! I already loved GoodReader, but this makes Paizo PDFs even better on the iPad. Thanks for the tip!


Kruelaid wrote:
I'm happy if I can just migrate the damn thing conveniently. Apple's failure to provide for this seems to be a MAJOR fumble.

Well sounds like Apple heard you and everyone else (including me) who's been b*%+@ing the eyes out of the poor customer feedback about that and similar issues. It will come to late for your wife's trip but iOS 5 is going iCloud, meaning everything can be done purely through Apple's free iCloud service and only need WiFi to transfer stuff to and from iTunes if you wish. Not all details are clear but I will guess that also means the ability to easily sync across multiple authorized computers as well, at least one hopes this was not overlooked.

I'm personally hoping AirDrop will also make it into iOS for that peer-to-peer file transfer between iOS devices I've contemplated Jailbreaking for.


Hi all.

I recently got myself an Asus Eee Transformer with 32GB memory. No docking station, though. I wanted a tablet, not another netbook.

Looking forward to testing it live at the gaming table in 2 days. Theoretical tests here at home tells me this tablet has great potential to be a very useful GM sidekick gadget.

Anyway.. Some thoughts on the Transformer tablet:

-The unit comes with something called Polaris Office which actually works really well for my GM purposes. It reads and writes Word format files. Only downside is that it does not read Openoffice's native fileformat, but I can always use the save as .doc feature in OO. Or, simply export as pdf and transfer it over from my desktop computer. Bottom line is, the tables comes with a working office type app out of the box.

-I find the tablet good for writing. Last night I wrote a couple A4 pages of background story for a sci-fi campaign i'm working on. I suspected writing would be hard on a tablet, god knows how hard it is to write on a touch screen smartphone. But it turned out great!

-Pdf: Well.. Roleplaying books usually have so much graphics in them that they lag a lot(in my experience) and they do on the Transformer too. Adobe Reader could not handle PF Core Rulebook at all. Polaris Office can read pdfs but that one dies out as well.
The only pdf app I found that handles 500+ pages of graphics intensive rpg books is Foxit Mobile Reader. You won't find it on the android market, but foxitsoftware.com has it. The bookmark feature the app has is also very handy. And it's free.

-File transfers desktop/tablet: Get Ghost Commander app + smb plugin. Problem solved.

-Useful GM apps for the Transformer:
*Songs & Dragons - manage music for roleplaying. Scene oriented.
*QuickPic - gallery app. Got pictures to show your players? Go get it.
*Pathfinder Spell compendium - nice!

Now, what is lacking is a grid battlemap type of application to help me keep track of people's placement in combat. I hope RpTools.net will launch a tablet version of their MapTool with a reduced feature set. It would be great if I could put together a simple map at my desktop computer, transfer it to my tablet and then use the map on my tablet.

I'll come back to you with my experiences with the Transformer after the next game session.

-Bad out


I looked at the Eee Transformer before I bought my netbook...it was a strong contender. But I typically have two or three PDFs opened at one time with HeroLab and its so far handling it pretty well. Only wish the screen went back further so I can see the screen and the battlemap at the same time. As it is now I have to either put to my side (if there is room at the table), or just close the lid - not a deal breaker.

Nice that you found an alternative PDF reader for that.

Shadow Lodge

harmor wrote:

Nice that you found an alternative PDF reader for that.

I use ezPDF reader for Android myself, which is a fantastic product and also worth considering. The eee Pad Transformer is really a fantastic device.


harmor wrote:

Only wish the screen went back further so I can see the screen and the battlemap at the same time. As it is now I have to either put to my side (if there is room at the table), or just close the lid - not a deal breaker.

Or, maybe you could stand up.


First gaming session with the Transformer tablet done. Worked like a charm.

*Background music management in Song & dragons. Ok
*Notes in Polaris office. Ok
*Lookup in pdf files. Adequate. Gfx heavy files are slow, though.
*Pathfinder spell compendium app. Really useful.
*Initiative tracking.. nah better on paper.

All in all. Transformer tablet was a nice tool to have. Im not going back to the netbook I think.

So, yeah there are other tablets than ipad out there...

Happy gaming.

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