My brother was RH positive, and my mother was RH negative.
There was a small reaction, but my brothers blood won the fight against the trace amount of antibodies that slipped through, and he was born healthier for it. It's like the question of do you expose kids to the measles. Inoculation with weak or dead measles works best. My opinion is that belladonna killing or crippling the baby is a worst case scenario. The fetus should get a decent saving throw against a vastly reduced dose of belladonna.
Another factor is the mother not knowing she has lycanthropy or that she is pregnant. Really? What is her heal check? There are symptoms. When the DM starts rolling dice for you and giving you weird flavor text like "You throw up every morning and have cravings for live squirrels." you should ask all your friends for heal checks.
My brother was RH positive, and my mother was RH negative.
There was a small reaction, but my brothers blood won the fight against the trace amount of antibodies that slipped through, and he was born healthier for it. It's like the question of do you expose kids to the measles. Inoculation with weak or dead measles works best. My opinion is that belladonna killing or crippling the baby is a worst case scenario. The fetus should get a decent saving throw against a vastly reduced dose of belladonna.
Another factor is the mother not knowing she has lycanthropy or that she is pregnant. Really? What is her heal check? There are symptoms. When the DM starts rolling dice for you and giving you weird flavor text like "You throw up every morning and have cravings for live squirrels." you should ask all your friends for heal checks.
Symptoms yes -- but symptoms that normally do not show up immediately.
By all the Holies I'm tired of explaining to novice GMs that pregnancy doesn't require immediate morning sickness, weird cravings and swelling up like a balloon immediately without being able to do anything but waddle for nine months.
The female body (and the fetus) are actually remarkably resilent and can deal with a lot during the first six months of pregnancy (and often even longer) -- the myth that a woman somehow turns to glass when is becomes pregnant is just that -- a myth.
Symptoms yes -- but symptoms that normally do not show up immediately.By all the Holies I'm tired of explaining to novice GMs that pregnancy doesn't require immediate morning sickness, weird cravings and swelling up like a balloon immediately without being able to do anything but waddle for nine months.
The female body (and the fetus) are actually remarkably resilent and can deal with a lot during the first six months of pregnancy (and often even longer) -- the myth that a woman somehow turns to glass when is becomes pregnant is just that -- a myth.
I'm sorry you are tired of calling me a novice GM.
I started rolling a D20, 1-2 to check for pregnancy back in Advanced.They didn't have D30s then.
If you are tired of being snarky, just stop then.
My mother claimed the morning sickness was the first clue because it started like the first month for her.
None of us came off an assembly line.
The GM has to choose which symptoms come first.
My mother never became fragile. Not till she reached 60 something. Now she is in a nusing home so she won't fall and hurt herself.
Symptoms yes -- but symptoms that normally do not show up immediately.By all the Holies I'm tired of explaining to novice GMs that pregnancy doesn't require immediate morning sickness, weird cravings and swelling up like a balloon immediately without being able to do anything but waddle for nine months.
The female body (and the fetus) are actually remarkably resilent and can deal with a lot during the first six months of pregnancy (and often even longer) -- the myth that a woman somehow turns to glass when is becomes pregnant is just that -- a myth.
I'm sorry you are tired of calling me a novice GM.
I started rolling a D20, 1-2 to check for pregnancy back in Advanced.
They didn't have D30s then.
If you are tired of being snarky, just stop then.
My mother claimed the morning sickness was the first clue because it started like the first month for her.
None of us came off an assembly line.
The GM has to choose which symptoms come first.
My mother never became fragile. Not till she reached 60 something. Now she is in a nusing home so she won't fall and hurt herself.
First off get your head out.
Now then:
I didn't say anything about how you check for pregnancy -- so that doesn't even factor in. I made no claims about it, though I must say a 10% chance is a lot lower than the "oh a woman had the sex! She must be pregnant" that the GMs I'm talking about seem to think.
I don't care what dice you did or didn't have -- never made a comment about dice.
Also I'm not being snarky -- I have seriously had no less than nine different GMs think that the second a woman is pregnant she swells like a balloon becomes fragile, unable to do anything without breaking with insane mood swings and cravings.
I didn't talk about your mother -- and honestly don't care where she is other than she is safe and sound.
Somehow you've gotten it in your head that I'm personally attacking you -- I'm not -- I was specifically commenting on some of the stupid that I've seen -- partly to help others avoid making the mistakes I'm talking about.
Don't know where you dragged all the other in but you can of course simply stop, or ignore me -- doesn't make one bit of difference in my life.
Indeed, but that's why I'd consider a Periapt of Health to repress it effects (without curing it) as it efficiently works as a cure disease spell.
Nothing in the item's description indicates a periapt of health cures or suppresses an already-present affliction; magical items do not necessarily function in the same manner of the spell(s) used in their creation. This is one example. The item prevents an individual from contracting new diseases, and nothing more.
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This leads me to a slightly different and off topic line of thought...
I was thinking this might be an effective way of killing vampires, beguiling gift with a periapt of health. What do you think?
Indeed, but that's why I'd consider a Periapt of Health to repress it effects (without curing it) as it efficiently works as a cure disease spell.Nothing in the item's description indicates a periapt of health cures or suppresses an already-present affliction; magical items do not necessarily function in the same manner of the spell(s) used in their creation. This is one example. The item prevents an individual from contracting new diseases, and nothing more.
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Indeed, but that's why I'd consider a Periapt of Health to repress it effects (without curing it) as it efficiently works as a cure disease spell.Nothing in the item's description indicates a periapt of health cures or suppresses an already-present affliction; magical items do not necessarily function in the same manner of the spell(s) used in their creation. This is one example. The item prevents an individual from contracting new diseases, and nothing more.Heaven's Agent - 1
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Naah; they have to cover preexisting conditions now.
It's in the healthcare legislation.
Naah; they have to cover preexisting conditions now.
It's in the healthcare legislation.
Works in theory, not in practice. They just cancel the periapt's effects.
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I've been in a game with a couple of these sorts of issues.
I agree with the other posters that if the child is born without the parent being cured they will be a natural lycanthrope. Though I couldn't be too sure if the infected players due date happens to be on a full moon.
It certainly would be possible to lose the child due to trauma as a pc character. We had a sorceress miscarry due to getting struck by a lightning bolt and sent overboard as the ship crashed onto a reef.
Also it might get interesting with the PC if they wear armor as they are going to find things getting snug quickly enough.
In terms of the Periapt's effects it shouldn't stop a pregnancy however I wouldn't be surprised that in a world with magic in abundance that there wouldn't be a magical item that would act to prevent pregnancy.
I just remember back in 1st and 2nd edition lycanthropy was a magical supernatural disease, and wherewolves where chaotic evil. Things can change though :)
Ah, geez.
Guy, go with what's fun. It wouldn't show up for years...but the "possibility" would give a great reason for the PCs to hang around and...sweat.
And that sweat carries the potential for the DM to inflict that most horrible of things--fun.
This leads me to a slightly different and off topic line of thought...
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No -- the vampire does not have a consitution score. This is different than having a con score of 0. Since the vampire completely lacks such a score it can't have a bonus to the score. It would be like giving a fighter a pearl of power.
This leads me to a slightly different and off topic line of thought...
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A more interesting question is what would happen with a ghoul, especially as ghoul fever is a disease and ghouls are carriers of it, basically reanimated hosts.
Lots of ways to go on this, but I think the periapt healing the ghoul to death would be the obvious outcome, with the effect of a full Heal spell cast every round the ghoul wore it. Ditto with the vampire.
It wouldn't show up for years...
Or it could show up soon. Oz, on his acquisition of lycanthropy, "My cousin Jordy just got his grownup teeth in? Does not like to be tickled." Holds up bandaged finger.
The Periapt of health is caster level 5th.
It requires a remove disease by a cleric of 12 level of higher to cure the affliction.
Aaaaaaaaaaaand I'm done with this topic.
*The core book lists it as a curse, not a disease, so for game effects it is indeed a curse that those spells just happen to effect and then only if cast by a 12th level or higher cleric with in 3 days of the infliction.Indeed, but that's why I'd consider a Periapt of Health to repress it effects (without curing it) as it efficiently works as a cure disease spell.
But strictly speaking, you're right; I've not found any source that officially refers to lycantropy as a "supernatural disease".
But a cure disease does not suppress anything. It removes it or it does not. The issue is the periapt does not cure anything, it keep an uninfected person safe, it does nothing if you already are infected.
On top of that, remove disease only works if 1: you cast it on the target within 3 days of infection and 2: The caster is a 12th level cleric or better.
The periapt does not cast cure disease, it simply makes the wearer immune from diseases they do not have. The item simply does not cure anything if your already infected and has no power to suppress a disease at all.
Your simply giving the items powers it does not have based off a spell it does not cast. That spell is simply needed in the crafting of the item. Nothing more.
*The core book lists it as a curse, not a disease, so for game effects it is indeed a curse that those spells just happen to effect and then only if cast by a 12th level or higher cleric with in 3 days of the infliction.Indeed, but that's why I'd consider a Periapt of Health to repress it effects (without curing it) as it efficiently works as a cure disease spell.
But strictly speaking, you're right; I've not found any source that officially refers to lycantropy as a "supernatural disease".
But a cure disease does not suppress anything. It removes it or it does not. The issue is the periapt does not cure anything, it keep an uninfected person safe, it does nothing if you already are infected.
On top of that, remove disease only works if 1: you cast it on the target within 3 days of infection and 2: The caster is a 12th level cleric or better.
The periapt does not cast cure disease, it simply makes the wearer immune from diseases they do not have. The item simply does not cure anything if your already infected and has no power to suppress a disease at all.
Your simply giving the items powers it does not have based off a spell it does not cast. That spell is simply needed in the crafting of the item. Nothing more.
Yeah, I know...
...but Heaven's Agent beat you to it :)
So I see :), didn't notice that
The Periapt of health is caster level 5th.
It requires a remove disease by a cleric of 12 level of higher to cure the affliction.
Aaaaaaaaaaaand I'm done with this topic.
You can make a pair of cursed "boots of dancing" at 5th level. Sure it's caster level 16, but I'm sure the -5 to your check only helps in making cursed items.
Boots of dancing + Lycanthropy = hilarious. Definitely a way to fight curses with curses.
Wanna keep it a secret? Lock yourself in the dungeon with a well-fed sheep three nights a month and dance the night away.
My votes are for non-suspended pregnancy and a good chance that the child would be born a natural lycanthrope.
No doubt the mother would be quite conflicted about keeping the child and, depending on her alignment, might even want to be rid of it.
If the child is brought to term then there is a good oppurtunity for a legacy character to be made. Perhaps when you are ready to move onto the next campaign, the natural lycanthrope daughter of the Baroness reappears in the PC party or maybe she because a main advisary.
The possibilities are endless and regardless of what the runs say you should pick the options that result in the most enjoyment and fun for the group. :)
I did have question of my own regarding lycanthropy. My party has recently slain two werebats and blood was carefully taken from each. Is the curse in the blood or is it lifted when the victim is dead? Normally it is transfered through a bite but does that mean it is in the saliva or is the bite simply a component to pass the curse?
Could a PC contract lycanthropy from injecting the blood? Would the blood show any signs that it belonged to a lycanthrope?
So that was more than one question but I would like to get some insight.
I'm pretty sure if you tell an expecting mother that her baby is a parasite and you'll find out what she thinks about it.
I'm pretty sure if you tell an expecting mother that her baby is a parasite and you'll find out what she thinks about it.
Actually, my mother was the one who first told me about this definition. Of course, I almost killed my mom through a difficult birth. (Also, my fiancee thinks the same thing.)
I still think one should not discount divine influences. After all didn't the OP already indicate there were deity shenanigans involved in the pregnancy already. Pathfinder has some awsome god just for situations like this. It is one thing that helps separate the game from reality + sufficiently advanced technology (I mean magic).
Actually, my mother was the one who first told me about this definition. Of course, I almost killed my mom through a difficult birth. (Also, my fiancee thinks the same thing.)
Your fiancee thinks your a parasite? That's rough.
:P