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Recently, we have a bad streak on the forum. Paladin alignment threads, APG Human Sorecerer favclass bonus threads, Frank Trollman Fan Club vs. Rule 0 Appreciation Society in The Great Fighter vs. Wizard Debate, and on the top of that, a streak of "<insert random question>, <insert random Paizo employee>, respond !" threads.
In order to bring some balance back in the game, I would like to ask James Jacobs what he thinks about the demise of dinosaurs.
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I have been tempted to click the FAQ button, I swear
They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).
They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).
+1, sir.
well no, some are still here in some form, that GM failed at rock falling..how sad
<sarcasm>Eidolons ate them all, because they're so OP</sarcasm>
Rocks fall everyone dies.Am I the only one who read through the APG, saw the Clashing Rocks spell, and immediately realized that, given enough wizards, I can make rocks fall and everyone die with an appropriate high level encounter?
I forget was there a save or SR with clashing rocks? Because the best way to do that is gather up some warmages or evoker wizards and convert hail of stone from the spell compendium. No save, no attack roll, no spell resistance, no damage resistance you just get hit with rocks.
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Recently, we have a bad streak on the forum. Paladin alignment threads, APG Human Sorecerer favclass bonus threads, Frank Trollman Fan Club vs. Rule 0 Appreciation Society in The Great Fighter vs. Wizard Debate, and on the top of that, a streak of "<insert random question>, <insert random Paizo employee>, respond !" threads.
In order to bring some balance back in the game, I would like to ask James Jacobs what he thinks about the demise of dinosaurs.
They had bad saves against cold.
See what can happen with just ONE poorly worded wish!
Can you people please take your beef out of my OTD? Go play in the 4e forums!
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I forget was there a save or SR with clashing rocks? Because the best way to do that is gather up some warmages or evoker wizards and convert hail of stone from the spell compendium. No save, no attack roll, no spell resistance, no damage resistance you just get hit with rocks.
I wasn't previously aware of that spell, good call. I'm thinking Arcane Sorcerer casting it twice per round:
1 Maximized, Intensified, Empowered Hail of Stones as a level 7 spell, and 1 Quickened Intensified Empowered Hail of Stones as a level 8 spell.
As for Clashing Rocks, it does require a ranged touch attack and allows a reflex save. It breaks down like this:
On a hit with a ranged touch attack, and failed Reflex save, 20d6 damage, the target is knocked prone, and is buried as if by a cave-in.
On a hit with a ranged touch attack, and passed Reflex save, 20d6, and the target is prone, but the target is not buried.
On a miss with a ranged touch attack and failed Reflex save, 10d6 and the target is knocked prone.
On a miss with ranged touch attack and a passed Reflex save, 5d6 damage and no other effects.
That same arcane sorcerer, with his School Power, Spell Focus, and Greater Spell Focus all in Conjuration, is going to have a +4 to the DC over a standard caster.
But you know what? Why not have it both ways, soften them up with the Quickened Intensified Empowered Hail of Stones before unleashing the Clashing Rocks.
Maybe that's how the dinosaurs met their end....
I am pretty sure that Carpy DM had it right they were overpowered. Although I expect that Paizo scientist well be creating a more balanced version soon.
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In order to bring some balance back in the game, I would like to ask James Jacobs what he thinks about the demise of dinosaurs.I think it's one of the most unfortunate events in the Earth's history, and it kind of makes me tear up just thinking about it.
But if it didn't happen, chances are you wouldn't be tearing up right now.
You'd be a lizard trying to take over a planet full of primates for their natural resources and to eat them. At least that's what I learned from 80's TV Miniseries.
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In order to bring some balance back in the game, I would like to ask James Jacobs what he thinks about the demise of dinosaurs.I think it's one of the most unfortunate events in the Earth's history, and it kind of makes me tear up just thinking about it.But if it didn't happen, chances are you wouldn't be tearing up right now.
You'd be a lizard trying to take over a planet full of primates for their natural resources and to eat them. At least that's what I learned from 80's TV Miniseries.
I'd kinda be okay with that change to my social calendar.
Whaaaaaat? Dinosaurs are dead? When did that happen?!??!
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They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).
Well I never had a problem with dinosaurs in MY game. But you have to give them full spellcasting so they can fight wizards.
I'm really angry, though, because my GM won't let me play a dinosaur in his game just because they're from Earth 3.5 and everybody knows how broken that was. I want to cry about it on the forums so you can all validate me.
My problem is that my players are always animating their corpses and using them as mounts. What can I say? It's RAW, and my paws are tied.
If the rocks are big enough, it's a CEE (campaign ending event).
In the case of the dinosaurs, James was just testing out some of his asteroid/starfall rules. The first version was slightly overpowered, which was too bad for all those dinosaur playtesters.
I always thought that stood for 'Chaotic Evil encounter.'
Can you people please take your beef out of my OTD? Go play in the 4e forums!
You tell'em boss!
If the rocks are big enough, it's a CEE (campaign ending event).
In the case of the dinosaurs, James was just testing out some of his asteroid/starfall rules. The first version was slightly overpowered, which was too bad for all those dinosaur playtesters.
:ROFL: Up in the wall of fame
Long ago some fool let one of their players play a psionic character.
We don't talk about the results in polite company.
well no, some are still here in some form, that GM failed at rock falling..how sad
yeah but i finally decided to give pathfinder a go instead of 1st edition...
They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).Well I never had a problem with dinosaurs in MY game. But you have to give them full spellcasting so they can fight wizards.
I thought it was robots they usually fought?
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I thought it was robots they usually fought?They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).Well I never had a problem with dinosaurs in MY game. But you have to give them full spellcasting so they can fight wizards.
Dinosaurs versus Robots ... is that a movie? And if not, why not??
Dinosaurs versus Robots ... is that a movie? And if not, why not??I thought it was robots they usually fought?They were an overpowered terrestrial endoskeletal class; for like millions of years, they were the only things the munchkins ever played. Frankly, I'm glad to see they've been nerfed into avians. Mammalia is much more balanced (even if homo looks to be the next powergamer genus).Well I never had a problem with dinosaurs in MY game. But you have to give them full spellcasting so they can fight wizards.
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Dinosaurs versus Robots movie link.
Dinosaurs versus Robots ... is that a movie? And if not, why not??
Of course! Mechagodzilla, how could I have forgotten you?
The real reason that the Dinosaurs died out was that there were just too many "Psionics" threads ...
That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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I had a premonition that this response would be coming.
I had a premonition that this response would be coming.That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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Wow! The entirety of the response? You are psychic!
Wow! The entirety of the response? You are psychic!I had a premonition that this response would be coming.That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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Psionic even ...
Psionic even ...Wow! The entirety of the response? You are psychic!I had a premonition that this response would be coming.That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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I'd go so far as to call you...
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My problem is that my players are always animating their corpses and using them as mounts. What can I say? It's RAW, and my paws are tied.
Evidently your players should stop reading the adventures of a certain Chicago based Wizard for hire...
Psionic even ...Wow! The entirety of the response? You are psychic!I had a premonition that this response would be coming.That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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I'd go so far as to call you...
Isn't combining those words like crossing the streams?
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Isn't combining those words like crossing the streams?Psionic even ...Wow! The entirety of the response? You are psychic!I had a premonition that this response would be coming.That's because psionic threads are the current evolutionary apex of threads and dinosaurs couldn't keep up.
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I'd go so far as to call you...
Nothing exploded. I think.
Oh, I thought about it. I'd have to find an appropriate image.What? No new avatar already made...?
A gith with a sword doing something psionic?