Jeremy Mac Donald |
I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.
Agreed - which essentially makes the article above false. The egg has to come first, laid by something that was not quite a chicken.
seekerofshadowlight |
jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Where did the "chicken-like ancestor" come from?
A slightly different chicken-like ancestor. That is how evolution works. Something changes in the environment or needs of the critter and it's body slowly adapts. So it's decedents are passes the gene. At some point those changes make it's children different then it was.
So to me it's always been clear the Egg came first in the chicken, but if ya go back far enough you'll have something that did not lay eggs.
jocundthejolly |
jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Agreed - which essentially makes the article above false. The egg has to come first, laid by something that was not quite a chicken.
I'm broke and unemployed, but never let it be said that a BS in Evolutionary Anthropology doesn't come in handy in a pinch.
Tensor |
Tensor wrote:jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Where did the "chicken-like ancestor" come from?
A slightly different chicken-like ancestor. That is how evolution works. Something changes in the environment or needs of the critter and it's body slowly adapts. So it's decedents are passes the gene. At some point those changes make it's children different then it was.
So to me it's always been clear the Egg came first in the chicken, but if ya go back far enough you'll have something that did not lay eggs.
You missed my implied Gag-Question: "How did it all begin?" I was trying to be funny...
sigh.
Kirth Gersen |
Scientists cracked the puzzle after discovering that the formation of eggs is possible only thanks to a protein found in chicken's ovaries. That means eggs have to be formed in chickens first.
This makes absolutely no sense. There are plenty of animals other than chickens that lay eggs without using a chicken ovary as a prop.
houstonderek |
jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Agreed - which essentially makes the article above false. The egg has to come first, laid by something that was not quite a chicken.
Look, something had to get laid before the egg did.
jocundthejolly |
Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:Look, something had to get laid before the egg did.jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Agreed - which essentially makes the article above false. The egg has to come first, laid by something that was not quite a chicken.
lol V funny.
Kirth Gersen |
I figured it was only a matter of time before biologist Jerry Coyne picked this up:
Godawful Science Reporting.
Biologist PZ Myers sums up the article as "Bleh," describing the reporting as "terrible":
Chickens, eggs, this is no way to report on science
Kirth Gersen |
Good ol' Fox news. Always asking the hard questions.
MSNBC has the exact same article -- I didn't check them side-by-side, but they seem verbatim, from what I recall.
Idiots.jocundthejolly |
Tensor wrote:jocundthejolly wrote:I thought we had figured this out already. Because of a slight genetic change, a chicken-like ancestor produced chicken eggs, what developed into chickens.Where did the "chicken-like ancestor" come from?
A slightly different chicken-like ancestor. That is how evolution works. Something changes in the environment or needs of the critter and it's body slowly adapts. So it's decedents are passes the gene. At some point those changes make it's children different then it was.
So to me it's always been clear the Egg came first in the chicken, but if ya go back far enough you'll have something that did not lay eggs.
Reminds me that mammary glands are actually modified sweat glands. Very good, nice, and good and nice good modified sweat glands.