Thanks! now Mercy hates me hahahahaha well it's only one step from love and hate hehehe XD
Thanks! now Mercy hates me hahahahaha well it's only one step from love and hate hehehe XD
Frustrated. Caelin berated the dwarf down for being greedy when her story was that she broke into the mine. Mercy is empathising with the dwarf woman, placing herself into her shoes, so she feels Caelin is berating her as well. She'd help the dwarf and talk to her if she didn't feel such extreme antipathy for the situation, so she's just removing herself completely to cool down and try to stop being mad.
Maybe hate if Caelin pushes it too far. She's mad!
Thanks! now Mercy hates me hahahahaha well it's only one step from love and hate hehehe XDFrustrated. Caelin berated the dwarf down for being greedy when her story was that she broke into the mine. Mercy is empathising with the dwarf woman, placing herself into her shoes, so she feels Caelin is berating her as well. She'd help the dwarf and talk to her if she didn't feel such extreme antipathy for the situation, so she's just removing herself completely to cool down and try to stop being mad.
Maybe hate if Caelin pushes it too far. She's mad!
Thought so, but still my character felt insulted after hearing the word coward, we saved her, no blood spilt, after all the kobolds attacked them when they got the wrong idea of a dwarf invasion and the dwarfs didn't make any attempt to parley or something just try to kill them all since they where very few of them and they could keep the mine, that's also a thing got my character mad, I follow erastil to a certain extent and slaughtering an entire clan just beacuse of greed is not something my character felt it was nice specailly after coward.
Just kidding he just felt really angry because she called him a coward.
LOL! I'm having fun ^^ it's RP only =) keep going at it ;)
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It's all good as long as it is appropriate to the character and the story as far as I'm concerned.
It feels like a good episode of Deadwood in the works!
Mercy should be older. I'm going to make her 19 just so the dynamic between Isis and Mercy doesn't feel out of place.
I've also decided that Mercy's one vice is bad spelling and doodling. Note the campaign journal for evidence...
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I'm interesting in seeing where you guys take this... You guys are pushing the story, I'm just along for the ride.
Can't wait to see how you guys handle this with the Council in Tanner's Crossing. Of if you even stay in Tanner's Crossing. I am curious to see what you guys do.
And like Kiptera mentioned, I really appreciate you guys all posting, makes me feel better about not narrowing down who I selected.
Oh and for the fine handling of a diplomatic situation, and avoiding conlict, you each receive 500xp!
Furthermore, for RP that goes above and beyond he call of duty, you all receive an additional 250xp.
So all together 750xp. Congrats guys and gals.
Yay! XP!
One question: Are we on the medium XP progression?
I'm interesting in seeing where you guys take this... You guys are pushing the story, I'm just along for the ride.
Can't wait to see how you guys handle this with the Council in Tanner's Crossing. Of if you even stay in Tanner's Crossing. I am curious to see what you guys do.
And like Kiptera mentioned, I really appreciate you guys all posting, makes me feel better about not narrowing down who I selected.
Oh and for the fine handling of a diplomatic situation, and avoiding conlict, you each receive 500xp!
Furthermore, for RP that goes above and beyond he call of duty, you all receive an additional 250xp.
So all together 750xp. Congrats guys and gals.
marked down the exp on my character sheet. another 1250 until level 2! Woot!
yeah I agree. I got ot bed before some of you finish posting so if we're in a situation like that and we're in the middle of a battle I'll tell you if I'm heading off so the DM and use my character a bit just to help things go along without me dragging everyone behind. You'll see my base attacks and ect in the character sheet just for that :D
Thank you very much with the exp thing, I do enjoy the RPing in the group since we are still "knowing" each other some still have their own goals secret tot he group, etc... that make intresting sidequest or main plot hooks etc...
My apologies to everybody if Venedictos seems so sickly saintly that he must pee holy water. He does have flaws and vices (some real doozies too), but greed and prejudice just aren't them.
No need for apologies.
Inter-party conflict is the best. People say mean things without thinking. Mercy is one of those people.
I think her definition of people falls into "Creatures I don't hate." I'm not even sure she can articulate that in a correct manner so I'll just write it here. :P
You know what... I want you guys to level, but don't want to progress too fast. I think I will go for Fast Progression. You only need 550xp more to level.
The way my DM did it was he actually leveld us up, but kept us on the medium track because he felt that 1st level is a level everyone get's knocked around really easily on. He gave us the xp so that he was just leveled since 2nd and 3rd level the players are able to hold themselves much better.
No need for apologies.
Inter-party conflict is the best. People say mean things without thinking. Mercy is one of those people.
I think her definition of people falls into "Creatures I don't hate." I'm not even sure she can articulate that in a correct manner so I'll just write it here. :P
yeah, Inter-party conflict is always something the DM can take advantage of too.
Denis is more interested in seeming like some sort of hero, but he's not tough enough to try and stand up to everyone's decision and start a fight with Kobolds all at the same time.
What everyone said to Mercy even made me mad! I think I'm understanding her pretty well now. It's fun to get inside the head of a character... hope I'm not yarning on about too much "out-of-character-ness" in my posts.
Good change from my real-life tables, where roleplaying is the bottom-of-the-list for things that we aspire to do on a consistent basis.
I aggree this is a really unusual game there and I can not even guess where it will end.
Simon is trying to find the RIGHT way and I doubt there is one ...
Heh. Venedictos is turning out to be waaaay more preachy than I had thought he would be. He was always going to be a bit preachy, but not like this. I'm toning him down for awhile. Venedictos is a bit of an idealist: he has nothing against combat or fighting, he is not a pacifist. He just doesn't believe in battle and death for the sake of battle and death, and the vibe he's getting from Mercy is that she is all about battle and death for killing's sake. Once she disabuses him of this notion, they shall get along much better. Right now, however, Venedictos is acting too much like a self-righteous prick
I aggree this is a really unusual game there and I can not even guess where it will end.
Simon is trying to find the RIGHT way and I doubt there is one ...
With the rogue having cleverly escaped the ancient red dragon's fire, males in the group die, the rogue delivers the final stike and ends up with all the women and the gold :)
No? Well that's a James Bond sort of ending anyway and this guy is certainly no 007.
I honestly agree that I have no idea where it'll end or what may happen along the way. So far Denis isn't too impressed with what they've accomplished. He was hoping for a little less conversation, a little more action, just something to funnel out the years of rage.
He's been trying to get on Mercy's good side, but so far she seems to just ignore him when he agrees with her and so he's keeping his distance from her. Most likely he'll go towards someone who does't act anti-social towards him and would like to actually get to know him, like Clair back in Tanner's Crossing.
He won't attempt to go anywhere near Isis since he get's the feeling that she'd probably curse him if he did.
'You have no right judging Mercy, Venedictos. You, uh, just don't.Venedictos watches her go and smiles faintly and conspiratorially with Caelin. "Perhaps she is right, Caelin. Perhaps she is a foolish, stupid girl."
OH, SNAP! I love this line. I just had to express how awesome it is.
I had to so badly I didn't even look at what thread I posted in.... ><
Well my character is just confused since Ulfen are normally very forward and blunt and that is very normal, but in this case he is clueless and somewhat lost as what to do with women from other places, since it's just weird for him xD. I'm having fun RPing this character.
Well my character is just confused since Ulfen are normally very forward and blunt and that is very normal, but in this case he is clueless and somewhat lost as what to do with women from other places, since it's just weird for him xD. I'm having fun RPing this character.
lol, that's usually how I RP my dwarves. Very forward, blunt and is usually somewhat at a loss with what to do with women as Grimli says:
"Many people have the belief that there ARE no dwarf women and they we just sprout out of the ground!" Perhaps dwarfs in fact do :)I personally like the character. It's people like him that took me out of my emo phase IRL but that was many years ago. This character is based on the phase before that phase and so with Caelin approching him the way he has, has helped him a little bit and made him a little more outspoken too.
Isis, nice RP PBP. Thats a twist I was not expecting. Woot! Personnally, I think I overplayed Kiptera's hand a bit, gotta rein in the metaplaying. Eh. She'll recover.
Agreed! Refering to the RP by Isis. I really enjoyed reading that, but of course my character is not going to act on it since he has no knowledge of the Witch's secret lives. Still very interesting and I'd like to see what happens.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes.
I also got to thinking of what impact in a fantasy world a little spell like Message combined with a few of the Hexes like Flight and Disguise would have on how a group could operate.
I realized that Witches could talk to each other without speaking really out loud and they could do it over a fair distance and didn't need line of sight. A level 5 witch could talk to up to 5 people for 50 min with up to 150' between each of them and as long as there is something like an open window or even a small mouse hole then they could keep in contact. Technically, even wood or stone is not a full barrier if it is sufficiently thin enough so people could be on opposite sides of panel of wood and still talk.
I'm sure wizards and sorcerers could do a similar thing but the Witches have this explicit organization called the Coven that they belong to. I thus figured that solo people would be the oddity instead of the norm.
Once I realized that Witches might talk this way together, I began to think on what they might talk on. Being scattered around the various villages of an area, they would probably learn of all sorts of interesting information that they could pass along.
It was at this point that I realized that I really had some form of spy network even if it wasn't formally called that. I also could see that the organization probably had good reason to exist as there is always talk of Witch burnings and such. Given the shadowy existance of the Coven network, it might be a self fullfilling situation. I also figured that the coven structure might incorporate good, neutral, and evil witches. It was a bit of the Krynn system of wizards where they all still respected the overall system despite having different outlooks on how the coven should operate. Frankly, it just makes it more interesting to have both good and bad witches in the same system but willing to work together for the overall coven of witches.
I even thought it might be fun to have a bit of snobbery amongst witches on the nature of familiar choice. Isis's choice of a lizard which is associated with beast spells would be considered likely good or neutral. A witch that had a viper with its selection of attack evocation spells would be considered to be neutral to evil in outlook. It is not as clear as white robes and black robes in Krynn but that's fine with me.
Once, I realized that I had a spy network, I realized it would need some way to protect itself. Again, the Hexes of disguise gave the perfect way to do this. Leadership was hidden by the usage of standard names (probably famous names like Hecate that are associated with witch craft) and using disguise spells. There was also compartmentalization into the coven cells; so, if a ruler had problems with the witches or wizards decided to get rid of the competition, it was that much harder to take down the whole network.
Lastly, I had to then back reason why a network of magical casting beings wouldn't be removed by any ruler when they spotted a witch. I answered that by the role the village witch plays in society. Most work in small rural communities where the big priests and temples are rarer providing healing, help with animal husbandry, and counsel or information on matters outside of the village. The villagers generally want and protect the witches and some ruler in a big castle just doesn't have the man power to go chasing around to every little village to look for the witches and remove them.
This is just my thinking and the DM can do with it as he wishes.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...
This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
Wasn't Hecate a Titan?
Also liked the roleplaying there with Claire. Made me laugh and Mercy's discussion about how boring it was that they didn't get to kill anything.
Are you doing only a bit of Claire and the DM is meant to do the rest or will you continue on a bit with Claire and her father? Definantly interesting roleplaying.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
Wasn't Hecate a Titan?
Also liked the roleplaying there with Claire. Made me laugh and Mercy's discussion about how boring it was that they didn't get to kill anything.
Are you doing only a bit of Claire and the DM is meant to do the rest or will you continue on a bit with Claire and her father? Definantly interesting roleplaying.
Hecate is a Roman goddess of magic.
I'm just writing. If Xealot wants to make them say something he can, but I'm just writing them out. It's not even the full thing-- like most dialogue you're only seeing the important parts. Nobody says "Hi" or "how are you" or talks about things the reader already knows, but it's implied. :P
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
Wasn't Hecate a Titan?
Also liked the roleplaying there with Claire. Made me laugh and Mercy's discussion about how boring it was that they didn't get to kill anything.
Are you doing only a bit of Claire and the DM is meant to do the rest or will you continue on a bit with Claire and her father? Definantly interesting roleplaying.
Hecate is a Roman goddess of magic.
I'm just writing. If Xealot wants to make them say something he can, but I'm just writing them out. It's not even the full thing-- like most dialogue you're only seeing the important parts. Nobody says "Hi" or "how are you" or talks about things the reader already knows, but it's implied. :P
says online that she was also the greek goddess of the crossroads but it wouldn't surprise me if the romans took the names or Gods. Most mythology I learnt from the game Age of Mythology.
I guess that's right. In the past I did rping which did involve that, but nothing like bathroom breaks, ect. However at the same time we have a whole group of people so we can't steal the spotlight from everyone, can we? I don't wish to do that anyway. As my friend said when telling me about DMing is that all the players are the stars, the DM sets the stage.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
Wasn't Hecate a Titan?
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If you like it then go ahead and use it Mercy with your own campaign. I'm just building a bit on the bones that Jason has provided in the Witch class.
Hecate was the daughter of Perses and Asteria who were Titans. Hecate is associated with magic and one of a group of female deities often praised and worshiped in connection to magic and Witchcraft. Though, like many deities, she has a confusing past and parentage with several different claims. She is also associated with the dark side of the moon and said to have shares of wealth in heaven, earth, and the underworld given to her by Zeus.
The association with magic is why I chose her as an alias that various Elder Coven members might adopt for covering their true identity. Coven members could easily use various other alias and disguises but likely with some sort of magic connection.
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Further growth on the idea of Witches and some things.
1> Women often spend much time close to the hearth because a chimney is way through shuttered walls to carry a message even into the heart of a castle.
Is that old woman sitting in the corner shucking peas in the kitchen and muttering to herself crazy or talking to someone via the chimney?
2> Many people will open a window to let some fresh air in or to cool a fresh baked pie.
Is it really to do these things or is it to make it easier for someone on the outside to communicate with someone on the inside?
3> The suggestion that evil can not enter into a home without being invited in might just be a rumour to encourage people to leave a window unshuttered instead of making sure everything is closed. People will feel safe in their homes even with an open window knowing that they haven't invited any evil spirits into their home.
Just some thoughts.
I was thinking from the beginning that Isis would be connected to this bigger group or Coven. It's really built right into the Witches selection of Hexes...This is fantastic. I'm stealing this for my home game.
I like the concept. It's like you're building the bad guys for us... I can see Hecate coming to town to take over your mother's job already.
Wasn't Hecate a Titan?
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If you like it then go ahead and use it Mercy with your own campaign. I'm just building a bit on the bones that Jason has provided in the Witch class.
Hecate was the daughter of Perses and Asteria who were Titans. Hecate is associated with magic and one of a group of female deities often praised and worshiped in connection to magic and Witchcraft. Though, like many deities, she has a confusing past and parentage with several different claims. She is also associated with the dark side of the moon and said to have shares of wealth in heaven, earth, and the underworld given to her by Zeus.
The association with magic is why I chose her as an alias that various Elder Coven members might adopt for covering their true identity. Coven members could easily use various other alias and disguises but likely with some sort of magic connection.
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Further growth on the idea of Witches and some things.
1> Women often spend much time close to the hearth because a chimney is way through shuttered walls to carry a message even into the heart of a castle.
Is that old woman sitting in the corner shucking peas in the kitchen and muttering to herself crazy or talking to someone via the chimney?
2> Many people will open a window to let some fresh air in or to cool a fresh baked pie.
Is it really to do these things or is it to make it easier for someone on the outside to communicate with someone on the inside?
3> The suggestion that evil can not enter into a home without being invited in might just be a rumour to...
ahh definantly very interesting and very fun to think about. A billion ideas go through my mind and this would definantly help :) Still not too sure how to play as a witch though. I'll need to do research if I ever make a witch character.
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Folks, we gotta lighten this up a bit. I feel like I am at school discussing Geo/econ/politics and these are only first level. I'm pushing back and Kiptera said her piece on behalf of the whole Dwarven Nation. She just gonna pickup some dwarven bodies (or not, it can easily be done by Asorva and an Elder) and speak to another clan.
She would much prefer a jaunt through the forest and play "call of duty" with humorous and sarcastic comments and one-up-man-ships of who is the better PC. (it goes without saying Rangers, but I'll let you have your say)
Kiptera out.
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Just to temper that above statement, I do really like roleplaying, but this got very serious and heady. I'm gonna tone down the Dwarven Leader aspect and put her back into a Ranger with an agenda. Just trying to recall my younger brasher know-it-already with no patience for planning a scenario 20 years from now.
I can see where you're getting at, but for the moment I have no idea what else there is for the group to do. The mayor needs this resolved before he can get us another mission. That's my feeling on the whole thing.
I can see where you're getting at, but for the moment I have no idea what else there is for the group to do. The mayor needs this resolved before he can get us another mission. That's my feeling on the whole thing.
The only problem is I don't know why he needs us to resolve it. Venedictos maybe, but a bar maid, the town pariah and an absent-minded gnome don't seem too tied into the decision-making process.
I really agree that we need to get our characters out from behind a desk and back into adventuring.
EDIT: A sidenote I just learned; Mercy can never infer a hunch that something might be wrong. With no ranks in the skill and a -1, she is literally incapable of judging that someone might be lying to her.
Oh, Pathfinder. :P
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If you guys are ready to kick some tail... that can be arranged.
Quite honestly, I planned on you guys fighting the damn kobolds, but no, someone had to roll a Natural 20 on his Diplomacy check, so then I was just waiting on someone to take a pot shot or be disrespectful, but once again, you guys played the perfect.
The campaign was originally supposed to start out with a kobold vs human and dwarf war, but it has rapidly changed and evolved lol. Sorry if it seems too... um... serious, I am just trying to make it enjoyable for all of you.
I thought you guys were enjoying doing economics homework lol.
Anywho, if you guys want to lighten it up a bit, tell me, and I might have a surprise in store for you all lol!
I'm all for Isis getting a chance to use her magics. I may want her to become a wicked witch of the west but I can't do that without some life affirming experiences. hehe.
New preview for APG Advanced Player's Guide.
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lb8x#discuss
This is really looking like the book people wanted Wizards to put out three years ago (or earlier) for DnD.
It looks like a major game changer for people with the number of options that will be available for classes. It is like all the tool kit books that TSR put out for 2nd ed in one big book of joy!
DM's will really have to step up their game and have considerable calls from players to 'remake' their characters, I expect.
If you guys are ready to kick some tail... that can be arranged.
Quite honestly, I planned on you guys fighting the damn kobolds, but no, someone had to roll a Natural 20 on his Diplomacy check, so then I was just waiting on someone to take a pot shot or be disrespectful, but once again, you guys played the perfect.
The campaign was originally supposed to start out with a kobold vs human and dwarf war, but it has rapidly changed and evolved lol. Sorry if it seems too... um... serious, I am just trying to make it enjoyable for all of you.
I thought you guys were enjoying doing economics homework lol.
Anywho, if you guys want to lighten it up a bit, tell me, and I might have a surprise in store for you all lol!
Ahh the fun of being a DM. Whereoyu have ot adhock it and I too would like to see how we go with the talking. Hell just the talking segments are more interesting than Black Fang's game.
Also, you cna't critically fail or critically succeed on a skill check, but it was indeed a high roll.
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Interesting read, thanks for the forum pointer.
On another note, I must apologize for the brief as opposed to the verbose RPing by Kiptera. I'll pick it up again Sunday. I am prepping to start a PF group local. Will do a Pickup Game(s) with PreGen PCs at the local Game store, Saturday. He will stay open as long as players are present (Latest he stayed open was 3AM) Previous DM departed for better economic environment. Lets see if I understand PFRPG enough to make for a fun game and start to fill in some very big shoes.
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Apologizing for posting later than normal by about 8 hours... just got home from working a double again. And I have to work tomorrow morning. Have to be up in about 6 and a half hours. I'll try and get some quality posts in tomorrow and early Sunday. I have my RL D&D game on Sunday evening but will have the day of Monday. I have some things in store for you guys, of course you will probably do something spectacular to fix that though. Anyway, good night all!
Looking forward to it and I understand RL matters.
My RL Pathfinder game that I'm a player is on Saturday night. Our GM is doing a campaign based around the Elenium Series by David Eddings. He set up some basic character classes for the group that were needed and had us do a random draw for the various classes. I was one of the last to get a pick; so, I was part of the mandatory 4 Cavaliers that the DM insisted upon for the group (we have a big group of 8 to 9 players).
My RL Pathfinder game that I GM is on Sunday. That is a kwel game as two of the players are fairly new to table top roleplaying and their previous experiences had been poor. Another player has played a fair amount with the Saturday group but hasn't really had anyone give her the time to properly explain how the rules work and what is going on. She's much happier in a smaller group where she can get the time to ask questions and get help as needed. The last two are very experienced and help with the other three; so, I can focus more on the story.
Venedictos , you like difficulties asking Asvorda to come back with us and meet peacefully the kobolds without causing an incident .
Venedictos , you like difficulties asking Asvorda to come back with us and meet peacefully the kobolds without causing an incident .
Just doing my part to sabotage everything so that people can get to kill kobolds (or preferably, as Venedictos sees it in this instance, dwarves).
My my my You are a silvered tongue devil. ;) Nat twentys on diplomacy, -10 on everyone elses sense motive. Perhaps you were a gambler in your previous incarnation? By any chance you wrote the treaty/business agreement? I need to hve my laywers read it of course...
Well, Venedictos doesn't view it as a sabotage, he simply believes that for this to be a lasting agreement, all parties need to be in on it from the beginning.
And he's just cocky enough to think he could pull it off.
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Sorry for the extended absense of no posts... my internet was out until a tech came and fixed it this morning. Sorry about that. I will get things fixed and posted shortly. I am trying to figure out how best to make maps without doing the generic Paint maps.
I'll get on it ASAP but no promises on when I'll get it out as I have about 50 hours of scheduled overtime over the next week and a half.
Ok, going to post IC now.