Eben's RotR OoC Thread


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Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Oh dear Priyya, where'd you get to? You were here right before Eben. Though I no longer fear for the group's life, I do still fear for yours! Hurry back & heal thyself!


Sorry! Work went full tilt wonky there...


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

I hear that! I live in dread of next week, when I'll have to pay more attention to the real world. But until then...!


Rock on, sword-sister. ;)


Probably gonna be late tonight or tomorrow morning before i can get to the next encounter, but it's coming up pretty quick... feel free to take care of whatever you need to in the yard you're in.

Also, would it be a point of frustration if I just ignored xp and told you when to level up? It's just another thing i have to balance, where as I basically know when you should be levelling up based on the AP. Thoughts?


I'm fine with that... we do want 250 EXP for the dwarf-prankin', don't be trying to worm out of that!


Priyya wrote:
I'm fine with that... we do want 250 EXP for the dwarf-prankin', don't be trying to worm out of that!

Oh, of course, you get 250xp's, but like all things that come out of the south dallas, tx area, it was originally given to you in pesos, so the conversion rate is pretty terrible. You netted 2 american xp's. It did come with a bucket of free margaritas, though.


Priyya's thumb frees her scimitar from its scabbard by 1/16th of an inch and smiles. "I don't know Amerian XPs. I'll take that in Keleshite XPs.. comes to 300 now." LOL


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Nadya cries from the ground where she's rolling around laughing, "Make it stop! Please make it stop!"

Too funny! And I'm fine with no XP & just leveling. Tell you the truth I'm just about the playing. :) I mean, "I'm here for the XP & phat lewts! Give 'em up or else!"


Male Human - Varisian Rogue 2

Strange, but from a page far, far away, I thought I felt the tug of free margaritas?


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Be there in 30! Start pouring!!


Might be a little early to start discussing this subject but after Priyya almost got cold-cocked by a goblin with a flaming twig... I started thinking about how to spend additional levels.

I think Priyya is going to take at least a level or two of Fighter to build up her HP and combat ability as befits a true Warrior-Priestess. Just not sure about when to take it because I don't want to stunt her cleric skills too much... so maybe 2nd level - Fighter, 3rd and 4th - cleric, 5th - fighter.

If anyone has thoughts on the matter or would like to share their own character's plans - feel free.


Priyya's serious thoughts are mollified by margaritas - particularly with top notch tequila. Priyya doesn't drink the cheap stuff.


Priyya wrote:
... Priyya doesn't drink the cheap stuff.

and Eben doesn't serve it. :)


Good man!


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Tell me the rules for arrows? How are you getting them back? And can I? :)


Nadya Tsura wrote:
Tell me the rules for arrows? How are you getting them back? And can I? :)

Eben, may be doing it different but I think the 'rules' state that if your arrow hits its target, it is assumed broken or destroyed. If you miss there is a 50% chance that it can be recovered and re-used. Some DMs just 'handwave' it and barely track it.


If you haven't already bookmarked this spot, it is worth doing: Pathfinder SRD


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Thanks a bunch! I guess it's probably better to learn the rules instead of blindly blundering about. :)


I say we track it however it says in the book (i haven't look at that in Pathfinder), and you're pretty much on the honor system for numbers like that...

.... so don't lie? I guess?


Nah! Have some fun. Most of the fiddly rules you can learn as you play. I'm relatively new to PF so I have to double-check whether I'm recalling a D&D rule from 19*murpl* Version *hmplb* or remembering a PF one. It's a pain. You are doing fine. I would have suspected you were a longtime player with the way you handle yourself.


Tale-Spinner Eben wrote:

I say we track it however it says in the book (i haven't look at that in Pathfinder), and you're pretty much on the honor system for numbers like that...

.... so don't lie? I guess?

I checked the SRD - it it hits the target, the arrow is destroyed (sorry Paehz), if it misses - you have a 50/50 chance of getting it back. I just rolled a % die but you could easily do a d2, d4, or whatever. That part ain't in the rules. :)


Game Died - weep for it's passing
Priyya wrote:
I checked the SRD - it it hits the target, the arrow is destroyed (sorry Paehz), if it misses - you have a 50/50 chance of getting it back. I just rolled a % die but you could easily do a d2, d4, or whatever. That part ain't in the rules. :)

That's okay, I can just try to retrieve the one that missed.

1d100 ⇒ 10

< 50, right?

Here is a link to the rule, for future reference.


I was going low, so yeah - you got that one back.


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

Nice rollin on that AoO for me Paehz! :D


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

Heh, in my games I always treat basic ammo like in Tomb Raider: only special ammo gets tracked, the rest is unlimited. I find it speeds up gameplay with no appreciable loss of verisimilitude (kinda like not requiring characters to mention when they need to answer the call of nature).


Anneke wrote:
Nice rollin on that AoO for me Paehz! :D

Must... not... say... it... trying... not... to...

FLIRT!


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

Psha! Anneke's only love is killin'. :P


Judging by the pasting you gave those goblins? True. But she also owns her own drinking horn... I'm thinking she is also fond of drink. :)


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

Well, comes with the heritage really. Ulfen are born with them I think. Actually, she thinks it odd that the rest of you don't own your own drinking horns.

BTW, she can remove a stopper from the bottom of hers to serve as a signal horn. Yep, Ulfens combinine the best two things in life: battle and drinking.


Anneke wrote:
Yep, Ulfens combinine the best two things in life: battle and drinking.

Well, 2 outta 3 ain't bad. ;)


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

*Ahem* What part of Shield Maiden is confusing here? ;P


Anneke wrote:
*Ahem* What part of Shield Maiden is confusing here? ;P

The 'Shield' part :P Besides, I was speaking from Priyya's point of view... and she never said what #3 was. It might be 'cooking', yeah, that's the ticket...


Female Human - Varisian Bard 2

Nadya's going to be hit & miss today. I'm on a scrum development team & today is "scrum day": demo & planning meetings. (Yeah, I'm a total web geek: back end, php - in case you know or care!) I've coached Kord on what I think I would do in any given situation -- keep him honest! I'll check in on breaks & such.

Don't die me!! :)


Male Human - Varisian Rogue 2

Since she brought it up, let me ask you guys an opinion question... do you have a preference on how I handle that?

I have Nadya's account info, so I could log in as her and try to play her that way... or just stay me, and say what she'd do...

I see pros & cons with both - so I'm up for a vote or whatever...


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2

I'd say just post her actions as yourself, that way, there will be less confusion for the rest of us when Nadya is being NPC'd. i.e. If something comes up in RP while she's being impersonated then it might be weird when (Janet?) does recall what happened. If she's NPC'd though, then we know not to both with anything other than tactics during that interval.


Male Human - Varisian Rogue 2

Bump worked - and good call, Anneke - I'll go that route...


I concur.


Gilbere wrote:
"These kinds of arcane enchantments be limited to the power of a caster." looking her in the eyes, he continues "I would estimate we have less tha half an hour before it wears off." conflicted now, "I am not certain what shoulda be dun". He finishes looking for her advice.

I think there was a big discussion on the regular boards on how to adjudicate the after-effects of a charm person i.e. would the charmed person be mad, etc. I think the argument came down to was the creature wholly evil, was it mistreated, etc. If we wipe out his cohorts, I don't think Gilligan would come after us - the odds are not in his favor. So I think when we have say 15 minutes left on your spell, that you could thank him and, as his buddy, recommend that he hightail it back to his fantastic home in 'Thistletops', or whereever he came from, to live in peace. So he runs for 15 minutes, snaps out of it, and then - who knows. Probably heads home.

We might want to have Anneke detect evil on him - to see how 'unremittingly evil' he is. He could just be CM - Chaotic Mischievous. The dilemma I'm in... As Priyya, she stamps out big evil, that is her mission. This guy just doesn't quite count - unless he REALLY radiates evil to Anneke. Redemption may be possible, and Priyya would prefer to give him that shot. Pragmatically, I can see the argument for whacking him... but personally Priyya kinda likes the bugger for her own reasons (which may or may not ever come into the game) but they exist to influence her actions nonetheless. So while it is a risk, barring him being really evil, Priyya would recommend sending him on his way early so that we don't have to kill him.
NOW, here's the other thing... and this is an Eben and All Players question... to what depth are we playing our characters and how black/white is the world? Some people like to play 2D characters and all evil is unredeemable - so there are no moral quandries. For me, I tend to play in-depth 3D characters. I really try to get in my characters' heads. I like 'realistic' worlds where not everything is clear-cut and characters end up having to make hard choices that are based on who they are as people. I find that more immersive but I may be in the minority. I'm willing to play this however Eben envisions and to the style that everyone is happiest with - just gotta know what that is. Sorry for the long answer, but it seemed necessary.


Here's how I tend to think about it... and so my games will play out this way.

Good and evil are extremes in a world of gray.

Self-centered-ness is not "evil" in my game world. Stingyness is not "evil" in my game world. Evil is something that drives creatures to go above and beyond what you would normally to spread pain, loneliness, death, etc.

Good, on the flip-side, is going above and beyond to preserve life, improve conditions for people who may or may not deserve it.

Registering as "good" or "evil" (like a paladin's aura or a paladin's ability to sense evil), can only be attained by being far beyond a "nice person." "Nice people" are generally neutral people who like to live and let live, are courteous, and good neighbors in general. A Detect Alignment spell would not register these "good neighbors" as capital G Good, but as neutral. A good sense Motive check would probably tell you that they're honest, trustworthy people, but that's not Good.

So, if someone registers as "evil", you know they're evil... and not just selfish. Conversely, if someone registers as Good, well you generally know what kinds of idealogies they adhere to.


OK, I'm down with that. So - fun 2D romp or more nuanced 3D adventure?


To be honest, I don't anticipate us going down a shared journey experiencing the multi-faceted nature of humanity's morality spectrum. But that's mostly due to the nature of this adventure path and my own DM Newb-ness.


LOL. I didn't quite mean that your adventure should be Kafka-esque. I meant it nearly entirely in terms of Player RPing and you being open to players (who wish to) adding a little depth through interactions, how they think, etc. For example:

Gilligan scenario

2D: OK, let's vote - kill him or let him go? Kill, Go, Kill, Kill, Kill... OK Eben we coup de grace the dude. Sucks to be him. What's he got on him?

3D: The discussion that Gilbere and Priyya might have about it. The fact that Priyya is conflicted.

Your situation is the same, how we as players choose to interact about it are different. Hope that clears it up some...


I always like the idea of players bringing layers and layers to their personality, outlook, and actions. i also realize that this game's Good > Neutral > Evil is a bit simplified for that.

I say go for it... we'll roll with what comes of it.

That being said.. i now realize you're asking for other players' input as well...

*steps aside*


Coolio! Again, this is purely optional - for the folks who like to play that way. If you'd rather not, just say so.


Game Died - weep for it's passing

"I don’t know what there is to talk about - we didn’t discuss the fate of his fellows in committee - why should this be any different? If not for Gilbere’s magic, he'd be trying to kill and eat one of us, or someone in town. We aren't the invaders here - if this were a goblin village, I might be indifferent, but here? There is no way I will leave him to slaughter more innocents."


Game Died - weep for it's passing

HP Roll 1d10 ⇒ 8 (+1 favored class bonus) (+1 CON bonus) = 10hp

Eben is afk, and asked me to post this:

Roll up your HP, add and label any applicable bonus, and list the total gained HP.

If your roll = less than half the hit die (mine is a d10 - so anything less than 5, in my case) just take half.


Male Human - Varisian Rogue 2

HP Roll 1d8 ⇒ 5


Male Human - Varisian Rogue 2

Nadya's HP Roll 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9


Female Human (Ulfen) Paladin 2
Priyya wrote:
For me, I tend to play in-depth 3D characters.

Yes, most of my characters have lots of D's involved as well. Wait, what were we talking about?

Anneke's HP Roll 1d10 + 2 ⇒ (10) + 2 = 12 did we ding or something?

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