Moorluck |
Moorluck wrote:It depends on if you are pro or con . . . you might have to be the Dark Paizo Avengers.
So 5 comic guys posting on an evil thread.... can we be the Paizo Avengers!?
Nah... I still hate Gargan as Venom. And Daken needs to be retro erased from the Marvel Universe. ;)
Moorluck |
Freedom Force and Suicide Squad, two evil teams that accomplished much good without (too much) internal fighting.
Yes but if I recall FF had these nice little explosive collars that had remote detonators.... a prelude to the nanotech that Stark and Richards would later use on the Thunderbolts.
Aberzombie |
David Fryer wrote:Freedom Force and Suicide Squad, two evil teams that accomplished much good without (too much) internal fighting.Yes but if I recall FF had these nice little explosive collars that had remote detonators.... a prelude to the nanotech that Stark and Richards would later use on the Thunderbolts.
The Squad has the same thing. Originally bracelets that would blow their arms off, the concept evolved over the years to be skull implants that blow the head off.
Moorluck |
Moorluck wrote:The Squad has the same thing. Originally bracelets that would blow their arms off, the concept evolved over the years to be skull implants that blow the head off.David Fryer wrote:Freedom Force and Suicide Squad, two evil teams that accomplished much good without (too much) internal fighting.Yes but if I recall FF had these nice little explosive collars that had remote detonators.... a prelude to the nanotech that Stark and Richards would later use on the Thunderbolts.
Now who's being evil.
Honest Trollperson |
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Heathansson wrote:Of course. Evil is banal. Add Hannah Arendt to the list.and I argue from a eumomma position:
booooooooring.You, sir, are a lituratroll. You may be well read, but you are indeed a troll of letters.
You're lucky you're not going to Paizocon.
I've got Evil Math.
Heathansson |
Heathansson wrote:I've got Evil Math.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Heathansson wrote:Of course. Evil is banal. Add Hannah Arendt to the list.and I argue from a eumomma position:
booooooooring.You, sir, are a lituratroll. You may be well read, but you are indeed a troll of letters.
You're lucky you're not going to Paizocon.
The algebra of junk. The perfect product. The dealer doesn't sell it to the customer, the dealer sells the customer to the junk.
David Fryer |
Moorluck wrote:The Squad has the same thing. Originally bracelets that would blow their arms off, the concept evolved over the years to be skull implants that blow the head off.David Fryer wrote:Freedom Force and Suicide Squad, two evil teams that accomplished much good without (too much) internal fighting.Yes but if I recall FF had these nice little explosive collars that had remote detonators.... a prelude to the nanotech that Stark and Richards would later use on the Thunderbolts.
There is no reason why something like this would not work in Pathfinder. It's little railroady, but have them have a curse or geas that they all have to work together to remove in order to motivate them to work together.
Lore-muck |
Honest Trollperson wrote:The algebra of junk. The perfect product. The dealer doesn't sell it to the customer, the dealer sells the customer to the junk.Heathansson wrote:I've got Evil Math.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Heathansson wrote:Of course. Evil is banal. Add Hannah Arendt to the list.and I argue from a eumomma position:
booooooooring.You, sir, are a lituratroll. You may be well read, but you are indeed a troll of letters.
You're lucky you're not going to Paizocon.
I've got evil junk. Wait, did I already say that?
Moorluck |
All I pick up with any regularity is The Goon.
Got all the "Old Man Logan" books.
I was torn on that one. It was a nice little mini series, but even as big a Wolverine fan as I am, I can't see him taking out the entire X-men. Even taking it easy on him any one of their telepaths could shut him off like a switch. But the story was a good one overall.
David Fryer |
Aberzombie wrote:There is no reason why something like this would not work in Pathfinder. It's little railroady, but have them have a curse or geas that they all have to work together to remove in order to motivate them to work together.Moorluck wrote:The Squad has the same thing. Originally bracelets that would blow their arms off, the concept evolved over the years to be skull implants that blow the head off.David Fryer wrote:Freedom Force and Suicide Squad, two evil teams that accomplished much good without (too much) internal fighting.Yes but if I recall FF had these nice little explosive collars that had remote detonators.... a prelude to the nanotech that Stark and Richards would later use on the Thunderbolts.
In fact, if the baddy that did it was high enough level, that could be the plot of a whole AP.
taig RPG Superstar 2012 |
Urizen |
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Or the git who pushes one directly into ad homimem. (Would that make it, ad gitimem?) OT: Interesting essay on Wilde.Bookmarked that so I can read up on Mr Wilde. I am admitedly not as well read in his works as I wish I were, thanks M.
Ah, I missed this the first read, but I chalk that by accessing from elsewhere (the missus' parents) than at home, distractions occur. Glad you quoted this so I could check it out. The Portrait of Dorian Gay would work well into an adventure. It would be eeevvviiilll!
David Fryer |
Moorluck wrote:Any issue of the X-men including The Hellfire Club is a good example of an evil group. Damn I feel like a geek b ringing that one up. :/Don't forget the Thule Society. They are reaaaalllyyy eeevvviiilll!
But everyone is ignoreing the penultimant evil comic book group, The Masters of Evil!
Fiendish Wilhelm Nietzsche |
Moorluck wrote:Emma Frost StatueWe have a winner! Where do you want me to send the life size Emma Frost as White Queen doll? ;)
Jawohl! I could do things that are waayy beyond good and eeevvviiilll with that fraulein. She could be my Cosima, my Salomé. I would take her to such Dionysian heights...
Excuse me.
w0nkothesane |
I just want to chime in and say I have no desire for an evil AP. Evil campaigns seem like they could be a lot of fun to run or play, but IMO the campaign would be pretty quickly run off the tracks in favor of pursuing the various evil plots that the PCs are scheming.
Good campaigns work because the good characters (and their neutral friends) see evil, injustice, or people in need of help, and they do what they can to help.
Good and neutral characters usually have an agenda of their own, but they are content to just do good things and further that agenda when they can.
Evil characters tend to have their agenda at the forefront of their priorities, and so I think an evil campaign would have to be much more railroad-ey. Conversely, I think evil characters are great for writing their own adventures, because their strong motivation to conquer/enslave/destroy/whatever fills out the story, all the DM needs to do is come up with interesting challenges along the way.
Just my 2cp.
Berselius |
[quote=]I'm "morally challenged", and I feel offended by this post. They could have been CN, but no, you just assumed they were evil. After all, all evil people look alike, right?
My people have been fighting for their basic civil rights for literally ever, and then you have to go and make a comment like that. Like it's all evil people's fault that bad things happen in this world.
Also, you can't use that word, that's our word :)
Oh don't worry. When a gang of hoodlums beats up and rapes your wife just because her car broke down in the worst part of the city, then you generally assume that they're pretty much evil. As for evil's "campaign for civil rights", I'd rather spit on a person who doesn't care about the consequences of his actions and their effect/amount of pain it causes to others than consider him a "human being". Being "human" means you recognize the negative dwelling in your soul and control it so it doesn't take control itself often and instead let out your positive side more. "Evil" humans can go live on Venus as far as I'm concerned.
taig RPG Superstar 2012 |
Urizen wrote:But everyone is ignoreing the penultimant evil comic book group, The Masters of Evil!Moorluck wrote:Any issue of the X-men including The Hellfire Club is a good example of an evil group. Damn I feel like a geek b ringing that one up. :/Don't forget the Thule Society. They are reaaaalllyyy eeevvviiilll!
Who pretended to be heroes as the Thunderbolts (by the way, one of the best reveals in comic books ever!), and some of whom actually reformed.