Ring of Feather Falling mechanics


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

If my PC were to delibrately jump off a 300 ft. cliff how would his Ring of Feather Falling behave throughout his descent? He also has pretty good Acrobatics and would be trying to negate some of the falling damage that way.

I've gotten some conflicting input on this and would like to make sure I'm playing it legal.

Thanks,
Mark Brauer

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

So, do I understand your question is something along the lines of: "When does the feather fall pop the 'chute?"

Pathfinder RPG, page 281 wrote:


duration until landing or 1 round/level
...
The affected creatures or objects fall slowly. Feather fall
instantly changes the rate at which the targets fall to a mere 60
feet per round (equivalent to the end of a fall from a few feet),
and the subjects take no damage upon landing while the spell
is in effect. When the spell duration expires, a normal rate of
falling resumes.the time of casting.

So, the ring activates the feather fall effect after you fall 5 feet, and there you go, wafting downwards at a genteel 60 feet per round. I believe the default feather fall ring is set at caster level 7, the minimum level at which a caster can learn the Forge Ring skill; so, after you finish wafting 420 feet, you plummet again, until your next action, when you can reactivate the bauble.

For falls greater than, say 435 feet, I'd recommend getting a stronger version of the spell placed in the ring.

Sovereign Court

Hm, but the ring says it activates if the wearer falls more than 5 feet. What says the ring activates only once during a fall? You fall 5 feet (and a nanometer more), the ring activates. You fall 10 feet (+ 2nm), the ring activates again, since you fell 5 feet from your previous activation.

As I've understood it, Ring of Feather Falling just saves you from any drop.

(BTW why the heck is this question in the Pathfinder Society section? People learn to read!)

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Deussu wrote:
(BTW why the heck is this question in the Pathfinder Society section? People learn to read!)

Just flag it and move on.

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Deussu wrote:


As I've understood it, the Ring of Feather Falling just saves you from any drop.

If that were the case, Deussu, the description wouldn't explain: "When the spell duration expires, a normal rate of falling resumes."


I think there are arguments for and against both sides.

To cast feather fall is an instantaneous action.

To activate a ring is a standard action.

Therefore, a ring of feather fall is not a ring that casts feather fall, but rather is a ring that produces a feather fall effect instantaneously, and doesn't seem to require the wearer to even be conscious.

As a result, my ruling would be that since there is no listed duration, the duration is until you touch the ground.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

In any case whether the same item provides multiple, overlapping effects or not, it'll take your PC 5 rounds to fall those 60 feet, during which, I would rule, he would be denied his dodge bonus (but keep his DEX bonus) to AC.


Gahh!!!

Sometimes people think about stuff too much.
The easy answer:
Ring of Feather Falling prevents you from taking falling damage ever.

Ring of FF wrote:
This ring is crafted with a feather pattern all around its edge. It acts exactly like a feather fall spell, activated immediately if the wearer falls more than 5 feet.

The wonky answer:

Even if the damned thing only lasts 7 rounds since there's no limit to uses per day it's an IMMEDIATE ACTION to re-activate. So for the sake of silliness maybe you fall 420' then for 5' you fall at normal acceleration then it activates again ad-infinitum. So since you don't take damage from a 5' fall you can effectively fall for 200 miles without injury.

What I want to know:
If I swim in mid air or angle myself how much sideways distance can I cover? What if I cast "Gust of Wind Midair?"

If you are launched from a catapult since the ring says "Falling" does it engage at the peak of my arc? Do I keep my horizontal momentum? How far can you fly using a ring of feather falling, a catapult, and a gust of wind spell?

If you are falling under the ring of feather falling what happens if I land on your back and use you as a human surfboard the whole way down? Balance check every round??? What DC?

If I land on your back can I grapple you mid air? What is the Grapple check to bite your finger off? How far would I fall before I was able to take a ring off a bleeding finger and put it on my hand?

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Dennis da Ogre wrote:

If you are launched from a catapult since the ring says "Falling" does it engage at the peak of my arc? Do I keep my horizontal momentum? How far can you fly using a ring of feather falling, a catapult, and a gust of wind spell?

If you are falling under the ring of feather falling what happens if I land on your back and use you as a human surfboard the whole way down? Balance check every round??? What DC?

If I land on your back can I grapple you mid air? What is the Grapple check to bite your finger off? How far would I fall before I was able to take a ring off a bleeding finger and put it on my hand?

You are officially invited to my table.


tejón wrote:
Dennis da Ogre wrote:

If you are launched from a catapult since the ring says "Falling" does it engage at the peak of my arc? Do I keep my horizontal momentum? How far can you fly using a ring of feather falling, a catapult, and a gust of wind spell?

If you are falling under the ring of feather falling what happens if I land on your back and use you as a human surfboard the whole way down? Balance check every round??? What DC?

If I land on your back can I grapple you mid air? What is the Grapple check to bite your finger off? How far would I fall before I was able to take a ring off a bleeding finger and put it on my hand?

You are officially invited to my table.

What? No answers? Those are serious rules related questions that need answers!!!

Thanks for the invite, if I'm ever in "tejón has created no profile" maybe I'll look you up ;)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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Yeah... the ring of feather falling works all the time forever. It will protect you from a fall of any distance, since it doesn't say that "this effect works only once per day" or "this effect only protects you from a fall of a certain amount of distance."

Most magic items work this way. They're better, as a general rule, than the spell or spells used to create them as a result, which is the whole point of the magic item. It's something that goes beyond the basic use of the spell itself.

Sovereign Court

Dennis da Ogre wrote:
said stuff

I was the first to say the truth, but did they listen? Nooooooo, don't listen to the person who's right!


Deussu wrote:
Dennis da Ogre wrote:
said stuff
I was the first to say the truth, but did they listen? Nooooooo, don't listen to the person who's right!

You have to use bold and give a wonky explanation also.

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Dennis da Ogre wrote:
Thanks for the invite, if I'm ever in "tejón has created no profile" maybe I'll look you up ;)

Whoops, I probably should get around to that at some point. Not that you're likely to have heard of my hinterlands township in any case. :)

Edit: Huh, can't find anywhere in the account settings to create a profile. That's probably why I never did. What am I missing?

Edit 2: Oh, I have to click on my name above a post? Weird. I was looking for it in the same place as avatar selection.

James Jacobs wrote:
Most magic items work this way. They're better, as a general rule, than the spell or spells used to create them as a result, which is the whole point of the magic item. It's something that goes beyond the basic use of the spell itself.

...except when they allow a saving throw and are not staffs. Then they blow fat chunks. :(

Shadow Lodge

I am a halfling Monk who ROUTINELY uses the Ring of Feather Fall when Launched by a Catapult (aka a VERY STRONG HalfORC barbarian HUSBAND) The ruling as our DM has seen it is that the ring activates 5 feet after Apoggee(SIQ) (also known as the top of the arc) after the ring activates I am now subject to FALLING and so the arc ENDS I fall strait down... but at a VERY SLOW rate Taking no damage... The spell does not say you become LIGHT as a feather so no affects like Winds will change the direction of the fall. (to any significant degree unless the fall is from an IMMENSE HEIGHT)
The Leaping to Grapple thing really doesn't get affected by FeatherFall (Unless you are leaping DOWN to grapple someone in wich case it CAN screw you up we normally rule that Dex is LOST at that point) Leaping up to Grapple (or sideways) uses normal rules for movement... (IE you did a move action now do a Grapple standard action)

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Brian Dorricott wrote:
Apoggee(sic)(SIQ(sic))

Apogee. ;)

Brian Dorricott wrote:
halfling Monk ... HalfORC barbarian HUSBAND

That sounds... pretty much lethal. It's not the monk who has damage reduction.

Unless the barbarian is compensating for something?

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tejón wrote:
...except when they allow a saving throw and are not staffs. Then they blow fat chunks. :(

Depends. A wand of fireballs in the hands of a low-level spellcaster is not something that blows chunks. Well... the FIREBALL will blow chunks of low level mooks around, I guess... :P

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James Jacobs wrote:
Depends. A wand of fireballs in the hands of a low-level spellcaster is not something that blows chunks. Well... the FIREBALL will blow chunks of low level mooks around, I guess... :P

While I will concede this point, I should also note that crafting a wand of fireballs (never mind purchasing one or receiving it as treasure) exceeds the wealth-by-level guideline for 5th level.

So yes, but the GM's being very nice. :)

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