Yes, I know, the edition war is over, and we all won. I have a daisy, you have a daisy, we're all hugging merrily along.
Ok, not me so much.
A freaking 4E book has come relatively close to the Pathfinder book in the Roleplaying Games category on Amazon!
See the ranking here.
At the time of this posting the 4E book Adventurers Vault 2 is ranked 336 while the Pathfinder RPG book is ranked 327.
Now my question is, how could we get that number up? Buy more books from Amazon?
Yes, I know, the edition war is over, and we all won. I have a daisy, you have a daisy, we're all hugging merrily along.
Ok, not me so much.
Dude.
Decaff.
:-)
Plus yoga.
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The daisy totally got nerfed in the new edition. I'm houseruling its subtype back to weed.
The new daisy is fine as long as you keep the old fluff. Your daisy can still fit in the same role if you put the stats in the right place and Roleplay a bit....it is a roleplaying game and all. I like the new daisy that is flexible enough to take on the role of tulip, chrysanthemum, or morning glory. No more boring, dumb daisy for me!
Would you buy a reputedly sold out item on Amazon nearly a week after it's scheduled release date if it still showed preorder?
I want to know what the heck the deal is with the daisy nerf! They used to provide DR 90 SR 54 and 1,000 hit points and cost 10 gold. Now they just look pretty!?!? I'm quitting this game FOREVER!!! (JK) =P
It isn't a competition.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
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It isn't a competition.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;P
Sunflowers are the penultimate flower.
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Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;PIt isn't a competition.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
Soon they, as well as every faction here, will fall under the power of the dread Lord Asmodeus! "Why yes, I am Chelaxian...."
It isn't a competition.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
+1
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!You can't have one. You'll put your eye out with that thing.
That's nonsense. As I type this, I'm twirling around a pen in my hand (as I routinely do) and I've never...
ARGGHHHH!!! MY EYE!!!! OH GOD, THE BLOOD, THE PAIN!!!!
I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!
You must come to the inner knowledge of the greatness of the Fryer... then and only then will the true daisy be within your grasp my little pony.
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I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!You're a pony -- a *Chelaxian* pony -- so you won't get one. We hate daisies, remember?
But you can make heroin from daisies.
Oh wait...that's poppies.
What about fiendish daisies? Sure they have teeth, but as long as you hold them away from your face and...
OH GOD!!! IT BIT OUT MY OTHER EYE!!! F!+$!!! THE PAIN!!! THE BLOOD!!!
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012
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I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!You must come to the inner knowledge of the greatness of the Fryer... then and only then will the true daisy be within your grasp my little pony.
Fixed the link for you...
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Revile is such a strong word. We prefer "pity". Yes...that's it. We pity you because you were not born in Oppara. Just don't get too close. Cheliaxians always have the most unique smell about them.
Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;P
It's all the crap their fed thru out their lives. ;)
It isn't a competition.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
What are you doing trying to make people see common ground? I am ......distracted by a daisy. MMM, I like them a lot. After I eat this daisy I will finish chastising you.
I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!You're a pony -- a *Chelaxian* pony -- so you won't get one. We hate daisies, remember?
But you can make heroin from daisies.
Oh wait...that's poppies.
What about fiendish daisies? Sure they have teeth, but as long as you hold them away from your face and...
OH GOD!!! IT BIT OUT MY OTHER EYE!!! f~~#!!! THE PAIN!!! THE BLOOD!!!
Here you go oh self-blinded pony boi ... your own brand of wine.
Revile is such a strong word. We prefer "pity". Yes...that's it. We pity you because you were not born in Oppara. Just don't get too close. Cheliaxians always have the most unique smell about them.
Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;P
And here I was thinking it is the slow simmer of sold souls as they cooked on the insides of the attached bodies ...
My favorite Daisy is a duck.
And she's hot.
Wow this thread really went some odd places lol
Take this daisy from my hand, young grasshopper...
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do.
Sunflowers are the penultimate flower.
Only for lawful good foliage.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
I agree with everything you have ever said in your life, but especially that which I have quoted above.
I would also humbly submit that every 4E player we encounter should be sent the following link:
http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/d/4E
If Paizo sells 4E stuff, they have more money to create Pathfinder stuff. Everybody wins.
The best thing you can do for Pathfinder is to celebrate the similarities (such as there are) between 4e and Pathfinder. In this way, 4e can be the "gateway" so to speak, but when a 4e player wanders onto these boards he is not reviled but welcomed as a fellow open-minded gamer.
That will convert players to new systems, not adversarial knee-jerk reactions. If I were a new player who started on 4e, nothing would put my off Pathfinder faster than the elitism that proliferates amongst the grognards. That said, it's hard for me to fight it sometimes too, since I really love the Pathfinder stuff, and 4e isn't my style.
The best thing for this game is for the players to be friendly and open minded.
I agree with everything you have ever said in your life, but especially that which I have quoted above.
I would also humbly submit that every 4E player we encounter should be sent the following link:
http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/d/4E
If Paizo sells 4E stuff, they have more money to create Pathfinder stuff. Everybody wins.
If Paizo starts selling 4e AP's they'ed makes tons of cash also, allowing create more stuff for both systems.
Revile is such a strong word. We prefer "pity". Yes...that's it. We pity you because you were not born in Oppara. Just don't get too close. Cheliaxians always have the most unique smell about them.
Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;P
Sulfur? Carbonization? Brimstone?
Poor Jersey...
Something in me will probably always go a little weak when I hear girls with that South Jersey accent...
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Soon they, as well as every faction here, will fall under the power of the dread Lord Asmodeus! "Why yes, I am Chelaxian...."
Hm, our hashish creates interesting effects in the minds of young chelish upstarts. I guess we'll not even have to resort to military force when we come to take what's rightfully ours.
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I didn't get a daisy. I didn't even know there were daisies. WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me? I love daisies!You're a pony -- a *Chelaxian* pony -- so you won't get one. We hate daisies, remember?
But you can make heroin from daisies.
Oh wait...that's poppies.
What about fiendish daisies? Sure they have teeth, but as long as you hold them away from your face and...
OH GOD!!! IT BIT OUT MY OTHER EYE!!! f#%@!!! THE PAIN!!! THE BLOOD!!!
Ah, *fiendish* daisies -- now that is another thing, indeed! You just need to be careful with those crafty bugg... oh, right, um... how about a little sacrifice (of blood) and a prayer to Asmodeus? That never hurt anyon... (er, I take that back).
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Revile is such a strong word. We prefer "pity". Yes...that's it. We pity you because you were not born in Oppara. Just don't get too close. Cheliaxians always have the most unique smell about them.
Tell that to the Taldorians... those guys revile everyone who wasn't born in Oppara! ;P
Ah, that's because you've been using too much Chelaxian opium (which we make of Fiendish Poppies, you know), and therefore you equate Chelaxians with that odour. And, of course, your sense of smell has probably been more or less ruined by your life-long use of storng, sickly-sweet Taldorian perfumes. ;P
Sunflowers are the penultimate flower.
Still only second best to the Daisy.
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I didn't get a daisy. I love daisies!
Now I have visions of Sebastian with Daisies threaded through his mane and tail, galloping through a field of Daisies...
You must come to the inner knowledge of the greatness of the Fryer... then and only then will the true daisy be within your grasp my little pony.Fixed the link for you...
heh heh heh...
I agree with everything you have ever said in your life, but especially that which I have quoted above.
Uh... thanks?
But I know that first part isn't true.