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I've recently tried out 4.0 D&D whilst I liked the combat system I never created a bond with the PC I played he just seemed a bit plastic.
I've always enjoyed D&D 3.5 but the work for DM to create an adventure could take many hours (I know).
Recently both me and the Overlord have created new sites focused on D&D 3.5
Dingle
Dinglesgames
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The Overlord
Monsteradvancer
Both our sites are trying to make the job of a D&D 3.5 DM easier and were released within a couple of months of each other (completely independently).
Was this just chance or did we both see the same opening in the market i.e. the gap between 4.0 and 3.5. Easy to DM 4.0 vs Enjoyable to play 3.5.
I am hoping that 3.5 will last for many years to come (and am in fact investing time, effort and money into this creating a 3.5 web site).
I would love to see the D&D 3.5 books re-released my personal thoughts are 4.0 and 3.5 are completely different games one an RPG the other a tactical tabletop wargame. Both enjoyable but very different.
The problem is that without new D&D 3.5 books being published the 3.5 game will eventualy die out. The New gamers will purchase 4.0 as it's the only one available.
My question to you all is "Will D&D 3.5 survive and if so for how long ???"
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I've recently tried out 4.0 D&D whilst I liked the combat system I never created a bond with the PC I played he just seemed a bit plastic.
I've always enjoyed D&D 3.5 but the work for DM to create an adventure could take many hours (I know).
Recently both me and the Overlord have created new sites focused on D&D 3.5
Dingle
Dinglesgames
and
The Overlord
MonsteradvancerBoth our sites are trying to make the job of a D&D 3.5 DM easier and were released within a couple of months of each other (completely independently).
Was this just chance or did we both see the same opening in the market i.e. the gap between 4.0 and 3.5. Easy to DM 4.0 vs Enjoyable to play 3.5.I am hoping that 3.5 will last for many years to come (and am in fact investing time, effort and money into this creating a 3.5 web site).
I would love to see the D&D 3.5 books re-released my personal thoughts are 4.0 and 3.5 are completely different games one an RPG the other a tactical tabletop wargame. Both enjoyable but very different.
The probem is that without new D&D 3.5 books being published the 3.5 game will eventualy die out. The New gamers will purchase 4.0 as it's the only one available.
My question to you all is "Will D&D 3.5 survive and if so for how long ???"
Thrive, of course.
PFRPG = Bionic 3.5. They did rebuild him: better, stronger, faster -- and backwards compatible.
I'm thinking that the community is certainly strong enough for 3.52 or PFRPG to thrive and grow...
Over the past several years the wealth of material available for 3.5 has made it a vast and variable system. In source material alone its unprecedented in its options and depth... I beleive that only one thing can kill 3.5...thats the players...and if you take a look at these boards... well...seems that the players are overwhelmingly in support... I have a dozen friends here in my home town that are fired up about Pathfinder... and its retro-compatibility...which makes our 4 shelves full of 3.5 material relavent and even new when you think of the possibilities for conversions
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I'm thinking that the community is certainly strong enough for 3.52 or PFRPG to thrive and grow...
Over the past several years the wealth of material available for 3.5 has made it a vast and variable system. In source material alone its unprecedented in its options and depth... I beleive that only one thing can kill 3.5...thats the players...and if you take a look at these boards... well...seems that the players are overwhelmingly in support... I have a dozen friends here in my home town that are fired up about Pathfinder... and its retro-compatibility...which makes our 4 shelves full of 3.5 material relavent and even new when you think of the possibilities for conversions
I do hope for 3.52 but at the moment pathfinder does not seem to have stong enough support (My peronal opinion is to ditch the merging of skills it makes too much stereotyping).
I would Personally prefer 3.5.2 to be the way forwared for Paizo. A rework of 3.5 rather than 3.75.
I do hope for 3.52 but at the moment pathfinder does not seem to have stong enough support (My peronal opinion is to ditch the merging of skills it makes too much stereotyping).
I would Personally prefer 3.5.2 to be the way forwared for Paizo. A rework of 3.5 rather than 3.75.
Actually Pathfinder has a lot of 3PP's planning releases >link<. So support is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. That being said, I'm sure there will be folks playing 3.5 in its unadulterated form for many years. Heck, sites like Dragonsfoot keep AD&D alive. Good luck with your quest.
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Dingle and Overlord,
Thank you for helping v.3.5 Thrive.
This is where it lives on. It hasn't just survived 4e, its has bested it. The community here, and in many pockets throughout the world like Points Of Light, as we keep the flame of v.3.5 burning.
I now have your generators on my Links bar, and use them both before and during my games. Let me know how I can help support you? I am sure the 3.5 community realizes that as you support 3.5, you also, by extension, support Pathfinder. Our entire vast libraries of 3.5 games are compatible with Pathfinder. And what you have given the community is an amazing tool. One of the finest and easiest to use. Thank you again.
As for resurgence.... those of us at PAIZO might say that there has never been a blip, lull, nor dip in our support for 3.5. James Jacobs' games in the first 3+ adventure paths for Pathfinder provided brand new 3.5 material each month until this very moment.
Now as the PAIZO community enjoys the release of the Bestiary and the PFRPG itself, please realize that what you do for 3.5, you also do for Pathfinder, and vis a versa.
The games play beautifully together - and the open game movement is just beginning. You may call this a resurgence if you like, but we are continuing to play Gary's game.... Monte's game.... Jason's game..... You can count on my support of 3.5, and this community's proud use of our 3.5 system with Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, made from the design goal of backward compatibility.
I don't know if that answers your question...?
Edit: When you say you would like to see 3.5 books re-released, er... it may demonstrate some lack of knowledge about what Pathfinder is all about, but perhaps I misunderstand you. There are still plenty of copies of v.3.5 available — but Pathfinder is what this community will be playing. Now, please continue 3.5 support, since we also play that game straight as well, and we also use each and every book due to its compatibility with Pathfinder. Again, your support for 3.5 will not diminish my appreciation for your contributions - I will hapily use your generators and whatever else as compatible material with Pathfinder. Even additional added 3.5 suport by any person or company can only help. Again, please clarify if I have misunderstood...
Somebody should make that a slogan or something.
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Dingle and Overlord,
Thank you for helping v.3.5 Thrive.This is where it lives on. It hasn't just survived 4e, its has bested it. The community here, and in many pockets throughout the world like Points Of Light, as we keep the flame of v.3.5 burning.
I now have your generators on my Links bar, and use them both before and during my games. Let me know how I can help support you? I am sure the 3.5 community realizes that as you support 3.5, you also, by extension, support Pathfinder. Our entire vast libraries of 3.5 games are compatible with Pathfinder. And what you have given the community is an amazing tool. One of the finest and easiest to use. Thank you again.
As for resurgence.... those of us at PAIZO might say that there has never been a blip, lull, nor dip in our support for 3.5. James Jacobs' games in the first 3+ adventure paths for Pathfinder provided brand new 3.5 material each month until this very moment.
Now as the PAIZO community enjoys the release of the Bestiary and the PFRPG itself, please realize that what you do for 3.5, you also do for Pathfinder, and vis a versa.
The games play beautifully together - and the open game movement is just beginning. You may call this a resurgence if you like, but we are continuing to play Gary's game.... Monte's game.... Jason's game..... You can count on my support of 3.5, and this community's proud use of our 3.5 system with Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, made from the design goal of backward compatibility.
I don't know if that answers your question...?
Edit: When you say you would like to see 3.5 books re-released, er... it may demonstrate some lack of knowledge about what Pathfinder is all about, but perhaps I misunderstand you. There are still plenty of copies of v.3.5 available — but Pathfinder is what this community will be playing. Now, please continue 3.5 support, since we also play that game straight as well, and we also use each and every book due to its compatibility...
I have been thinking about tailoring new versions of the generator towards Pathfinder while it grows in support (maybe adding a pathfinder flag to the generators to change the monster skills) what would be the copyright implications on this if I charged for some of it?
I'm hoping to see if I can make a living creating 3.5 and 3.75 tools full time. (I've 20 years programming and DMing it would be nice to combine them and create a 3.5/3.75 website).I must admit to of a bit of lack of knowledge to where 3.5 is going. I'm just a gamer who is good at programming.
I've a friend who is also running an RPG web site 6d6 Fireball who has also asked the same question.
I will do every thing I can to support 3.5 and 3.75 and hopefully even make some money with my contributions. I love the game!!
Dingle, you and your pals are turning out some fine tools. I encourage you and your talented friends to go read the sections on the website regarding both Community Use (free support) and Compatibility License (releasing support for profit). I hope you join the most viable community and strategy for the ongoing thriving of OGL/3.5 compatible gaming. And, of course, Pax will be helpful.
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Somebody should make that a slogan or something.I've had a stab at creating an icon.
Disclaimer: The link goes to my blog. I've placed the icon in the public domain so if anyone can upload the icon to these forums or somewhere else more neutral, please go ahead.
They did. Take a look at the PFRPG ad on the back of Wayfinder #1!
I would love to see the D&D 3.5 books re-released my personal thoughts are 4.0 and 3.5 are completely different games one an RPG the other a tactical tabletop wargame. Both enjoyable but very different.
The problem is that without new D&D 3.5 books being published the 3.5 game will eventualy die out. The New gamers will purchase 4.0 as it's the only one available.
Well since we have the SRD/OGL, there is actually nothing stopping a non-WotC company from printing out the majority of the rules again. There are of course a few sticking points, such as wealth by level and xp issues that are not open content, but those can be worked around fairly easily.
No the biggest hurdle is convincing a company that there is significant demand for new 3.5 core books out there to make it worth printing them. Of the 11 people (including myself) who I game with, only 2 don't own the 3.5 PHB. Now a company would have to market their book to get those two players or they could come up with a brand new set of rules and try to get all 11 players. Which is the better business choice?
Another hurdle is to convince game designers to take the system as is and not to design a new version. This is perhaps asking too much of them, they want to instute their ideas and thus there are going to be changes, fundamental changes in fact.
My question to you all is "Will D&D 3.5 survive and if so for how long ???"
How long will it survive? Quite a while, with the SRD available, even if players can't buy new books they can print off the pages of that and make their own book.
Will it thrive? I don't know, it depends on how much 3PP are willing to stick with it and if in a few years someone is willing to go back and do a printing of the core material. I don't expect that to happen though, at least anytime soon, so I think 3.5 will linger, but not thrive.
I have been thinking about tailoring new versions of the generator towards Pathfinder while it grows in support (maybe adding a pathfinder flag to the generators to change the monster skills) what would be the copyright implications on this if I charged for some of it?
From what we have been reading in the Bonus Beastiary threads, it sounds like Pathfinder monster advancement will work differently.
I'm not trying to say you can't or won't be able to support it... Just giving you a heads up that it might require a separate tool/program.
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I have been thinking about tailoring new versions of the generator towards Pathfinder while it grows in support (maybe adding a pathfinder flag to the generators to change the monster skills) what would be the copyright implications on this if I charged for some of it?From what we have been reading in the Bonus Beastiary threads, it sounds like Pathfinder monster advancement will work differently.
I'm not trying to say you can't or won't be able to support it... Just giving you a heads up that it might require a separate tool/program.
One of our guiding goals with PFRPG is to add, not subtract. We give more options for monster advancement, but the old standby (and still my preferred method) of advancing hit dice still exists. It's actually less restrictive and more open for the GM to do what he wants with it, in fact.
Seeing plenty of usable, and a surprising number of almost new, 3.5 core books on the shelves of used bookstores lately (not to mention old stock that some game stores are hanging on to) I really doubt that just a repackaging/representation of SRD has any chance of being an ongoing business concern. (Didn't Green Ronin already drop that?) There's going to have to be some room for improvement to create new demand.
No the biggest hurdle is convincing a company that there is significant demand for new 3.5 core books out there to make it worth printing them. Of the 11 people (including myself) who I game with, only 2 don't own the 3.5 PHB. Now a company would have to market their book to get those two players or they could come up with a brand new set of rules and try to get all 11 players. Which is the better business choice?The selling point of the any new 3.5 rules would have to be that they are the 3.5 rules. There should be no conflict between the old books and the new books.
Yet to get the existing owners of PHBs to purchase the rules again, requires that the new rules be better than the old ones.
This can be done not by changing the rules but by presenting them differently.
The current PHB is written with new players in mind. How would a rule book look if it was written with existing players in mind? Instead of a book trying to teach the game it becomes a reference book to the game.
This allows it to be smaller that the original PHB. I think there are a fair number of players who would pay $10 - $20 just for a PHB half the weight of the original. With better organisation, indexing and typography, the new PHB can also be easier and quicker to use.
You've described the Rules Compendium.
Which, btw, appears to have finally been remaindered, as I've seen multiple new copies at Half-Price Books.
You've described the Rules Compendium.
The Rules Compendium does not replace the 3.5 PHB.
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You've described the Rules Compendium.The Rules Compendium does not replace the 3.5 PHB.
The Pathfinder Role-playing game replaces the 3.5 PHB for the majority of us, AND yet all other 3.5 material is compatible with Pathfinder.
So, in short, anyone who continues to publish under 3.5 will be continuing to publish for a "living" system in the sense that it will continue having new materials under the OGL forever. And, those who do so, chiefly Dingle & friends, in whatever form you choose, will also be supporting the system underpinning Pathfinder.
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You've described the Rules Compendium.The Rules Compendium does not replace the 3.5 PHB.The Pathfinder Role-playing game replaces the 3.5 PHB for the majority of us, AND yet all other 3.5 material is compatible with Pathfinder.
So, in short, anyone who continues to publish under 3.5 will be continuing to publish for a "living" system in the sense that it will continue having new materials under the OGL forever. And, those who do so, chiefly Dingle & friends, in whatever form you choose, will also be supporting the system underpinning Pathfinder.
My worries were mainly about the new gamers 13-18 year olds not trying out 3.5/3.75 but going straight for 4.0. Of course this may well be a less of a problem with the new generation, as nearly everyone has the internet, and can print off the SRD's or download pathfinder.
Will the printed pathfinder books be released to stores to sell or only be purchasable on-line?
Will the printed pathfinder books be released to stores to sell or only be purchasable on-line?
Stores, online (paizo store) and E-Tailers (amazon.com).
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My worries were mainly about the new gamers 13-18 year olds not trying out 3.5/3.75 but going straight for 4.0.
That will be an issue no matter what, end of the day WotC have the brand "D&D". I guess we can help as a community by calling Pathfinder RPG, Pathfinder RPG. Calling it D&D v3.75 doesn't really help. New potential players may hear of this game called D&D 3.75, search and find D&D 4.0. Then think well this must be the latest version. I'm sure that WotC would have kittens if Paizo started advertising "Pathfinder RPG, the other D&D"
Paizo has done an excellent job, they no doubt have their own advertising campaigns sorted out, but word of mouth (and net) is still a powerful force.
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I certainly intend to use my 3.5 library with Pathfinder.
Using the Pathfinder rules might just enable the PCs to survive Rappan Athuk. :)
(Ok, maybe not...)
I think people will continue to be introduced to the hobby through their friends, so it's up to Paizo's Organized Play to spread the game to as many people as possible, who can then introduce their friends.
I don't think D&D or Pathfinder are generally approachable cold. The initial investment is too much for D&D ($105, not to mention the cost barrier to entry to play the "complete" core game, including PHB2, PHB3, etc.). The 576-page Pathfinder book may be too intimidating due to its size. (Though for the veteran player like me, the value of 576 full color pages for only $50 is incredible.)
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I think people will continue to be introduced to the hobby through their friends, so it's up to Paizo's Organized Play to spread the game to as many people as possible, who can then introduce their friends.I don't think D&D or Pathfinder are generally approachable cold. The initial investment is too much for D&D ($105, not to mention the cost barrier to entry to play the "complete" core game, including PHB2, PHB3, etc.). The 576-page Pathfinder book may be too intimidating due to its size. (Though for the veteran player like me, the value of 576 full color pages for only $50 is incredible.)
I think you are right about being introduced to the game. I remember the first time I played I was hooked (aged 15). I then invested in a DMs screen and a players handbook (AD&D) and we ran games with just that. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the DMG and Monster manual. I read them thru and thru. I can probably still quote monster stats from AD&D. So I'm not sure if 576-pages would be intimidating.
I wonder if it would be an idea to donate books to Youth clubs/colleges etc this could really start the bowl rolling (Just as long as some mums don't think we are going to convert their sons to devil worshipping, but all publicity is good publicity I've heard).
I will be buying the pathfinder book as soon as it comes out.
P.S I wish I'd not just come back from the pub before starting the Post I might have spelt Resurgent right. (can someone edit this (a bit embarrassed)?)
Since 4.0 was introduced, I have been buying more instead of less D&D 3.5 material.
My groups have players aged 18, 16 and 10, who are very enthusiastic about D&D 3.5, so there is still hope for the new generation.
Somebody should make that a slogan or something.I've had a stab at creating an icon.
Disclaimer: The link goes to my blog. I've placed the icon in the public domain so if anyone can upload the icon to these forums or somewhere else more neutral, please go ahead.
Nice!! I'll proudly display this banner!
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Since 4.0 was introduced, I have been buying more instead of less D&D 3.5 material.
Me too, although I'm not sure it "counts", since I've been buying used clearance stuff on eBay. You can get stuff real cheap that way. :)
My groups have players aged 18, 16 and 10, who are very enthusiastic about D&D 3.5, so there is still hope for the new generation.
My group is all relatively older compared to that (35+), but most of us have kids that are beginning to take an interest. So we'll see where that goes.
Beyond that, frankly, I don't really care about how 3.5 does with the world at large. I have all the material, a committed group of guys to play, and enough campaign stuff to last 20 years, easy. Both 3.5 and PFRPG. I hope PF does well simply because I like Paizo and want them to keep producing stuff for me to buy, but beyond that, we're doing just fine in our little cocoon, thank you. :)
Since 4.0 was introduced, I have been buying more instead of less D&D 3.5 material.Me too, although I'm not sure it "counts", since I've been buying used clearance stuff on eBay. You can get stuff real cheap that way. :)
I know this is true of one of my two DMs as well. If you backed the statement up to "since 4.0 was announced," it would definitely be true of me as well.
Nice work on the logo, Fireball. Thanks for sharing it.
Will it thrive? I don't know, it depends on how much 3PP are willing to stick with it and if in a few years someone is willing to go back and do a printing of the core material. I don't expect that to happen though, at least anytime soon, so I think 3.5 will linger, but not thrive.
My name is Steve Russell, I run Rite Publishing, we are a supporter of the Pathfinder Rpg Compatibility license with our newest patronage project
Clinton J. Boomer's Coliseum Morpheuon: The Damnation Epoch
You might have seen our ad in Wayfinder #1
We purchased an early set of the new rules (Boomer has read them over and has had many nice things to say about them.)
We have had 4 successful 3.5 hybrid OGL patronage projects (arcana evolved and Jade Oath a 3.5/AE hybrid), with "A Witch's Choice" being available as a retail product.
Its not about if 3PP will stick it out and support it, its if your willing to actually purchase a product and I am not talking about mine (though if you did I would heart you). Pathfinder Rpg is 3.5 compatible and adds more to your game, buy it. Buy Kobold Quarterly, Sign up for a patronage project from Open Design or try Obsidian Twilight from LPJR design. Try 0one (zero one) games the great city campaign and the road to revolution campaign arc.
3.5 has some of the BEST material it has ever had out there right now. Yet it will go away if you don't support it with your hard earned money :)
3.5 has died. And then, like a phoenix, it will rise from the ashes, stronger then ever.
Great picture, showing that 3e will never really die, plus we get to use 3.P, which can mean Third Edition Paizo, Third Edition Pathfinder, Third Edition Phoenix!
3.5 has died. And then, like a phoenix, it will rise from the ashes, stronger then ever.
Great picture, showing that 3e will never really die, plus we get to use 3.P, which can mean Third Edition Paizo, Third Edition Pathfinder, Third Edition Phoenix!
I like PDnD better.
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My worries were mainly about the new gamers 13-18 year olds not trying out 3.5/3.75 but going straight for 4.0.
And younger. I've ran several 4E games for pre-teens and their parents. The formers eyes just glaze in confusion when I and the latter talk about 3.x or, heavens, 1st edition and older games.
You're justifiably concerned about 3.x not being in the bookstore. It's hard to grab new marketshare for a game that, outside of long-time players, effectively is not supported anymore. That's one of the reasons Paizo created the PRPG in the first place; to let people know there's a living game out there that's backwards compatible to 3.x. New players can then walk into hobby stores or even B&N and Borders and see Pathfinder RPG right next to Dungeons & Dragons and Vampire.
IMO, I think you should update your online tools to Pathfinder asap. As a GM, I'm much more willing to use a tool that's supports my ruleset (Pathfinder) than a tool that supports an older set which I then have to convert to the new one no matter the ease.
Finally, I have tons of 3.x stuff. I'd rather look at new shinies than an old one ;-)
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My worries were mainly about the new gamers 13-18 year olds not trying out 3.5/3.75 but going straight for 4.0.And younger. I've ran several 4E games for pre-teens and their parents. The formers eyes just glaze in confusion when I and the latter talk about 3.x or, heavens, 1st edition and older games.
You're justifiably concerned about 3.x not being in the bookstore. It's hard to grab new marketshare for a game that, outside of long-time players, effectively is not supported anymore. That's one of the reasons Paizo created the PRPG in the first place; to let people know there's a living game out there that's backwards compatible to 3.x. New players can then walk into hobby stores or even B&N and Borders and see Pathfinder RPG right next to Dungeons & Dragons and Vampire.
IMO, I think you should update your online tools to Pathfinder asap. As a GM, I'm much more willing to use a tool that's supports my ruleset (Pathfinder) than a tool that supports an older set which I then have to convert to the new one no matter the ease.
Finally, I have tons of 3.x stuff. I'd rather look at new shinies than an old one ;-)
I think you are probably right about upgrading to pathfinder, I'll certainly start thinking about it. I don't think I'm allowed to release anything before the official launch of the book but I can certainly start planing.
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I think you are probably right about upgrading to pathfinder, I'll certainly start thinking about it. I don't think I'm allowed to release anything before the official launch of the book but I can certainly start planing.
I hope you don't scrap all of the 3.5 stuff though. Would be nice if both 3.5 and Pathfinder were supported. I don't know how difficult that would be, but a lot of people will still be playing 3.5 for a very long time.
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I've been personally trying to get away from calling it D&D and just calling it Pathfinder myself.
I started selling all my 3.5 core books online as well as some of my Forgotten Realms stuff (just because I'm now SO disenchanted with the setting it's not even funny) to make room for more Pathfinder stuff as well as new OGL products being produced. I haven't gotten into Kobold Quarterly yet but I'm quite curious about it.
I like PDnD better.3.5 has died. And then, like a phoenix, it will rise from the ashes, stronger then ever.
Great picture, showing that 3e will never really die, plus we get to use 3.P, which can mean Third Edition Paizo, Third Edition Pathfinder, Third Edition Phoenix!
DnD has too many bad connotations for me to like that.
I always advocated dropping the D&D moniker when Pathfinder was announced. Names like "3.75", "3.P", "PFD&D" just assume that Pathfinder is some sort of hanger-on and cheapen it. While it might be based on the OGL content, it is its own game, like C&C, True20, OSRIC, etc.
D&D is Hasbro's IP. I play 3.5 D&D ATM, but come August I will be a Pathfinder player exclusively. D&D will no longer be a game I play or support. No crack on those who have followed the train to the next station, I just personally got off. I am just happy Paizo stepped up to the plate and made this wonderful game. Otherwise I would be out of RPG play altogether.
The way I see it, PF is the next version of DnD. You have DnD, ADnD, 2nd ADnD, 3 DnD, 3.5 DnD, and then PDnD.
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I've been personally trying to get away from calling it D&D and just calling it Pathfinder myself.
I started selling all my 3.5 core books online as well as some of my Forgotten Realms stuff (just because I'm now SO disenchanted with the setting it's not even funny) to make room for more Pathfinder stuff as well as new OGL products being produced. I haven't gotten into Kobold Quarterly yet but I'm quite curious about it.
Wow, and here I was feeling guilty about feeling that way about the 3.x realms books.
I have the 2e super trillogy of deities (Faiths & Avatars, Powers and Pantheons, and Demihuman Deities) and about the only one that screams 'keep me' is Powers of Faerun and Races of Faerun.
Weird Al should do a song called "Sloganizer". Maybe Pax will pen the lyrics.
My players unanimously want to go back to 3.5.
So, I've printed out the PFRPG beta, will buy the hardcover, and am talking to my FLGS about a launch event for the release...
I will not DM or play another session of 4e.
3.5 Resurgent, indeed.
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I hope you don't scrap all of the 3.5 stuff though. Would be nice if both 3.5 and Pathfinder were supported. I don't know how difficult that would be, but a lot of people will still be playing 3.5 for a very long time.
I think you are probably right about upgrading to pathfinder, I'll certainly start thinking about it. I don't think I'm allowed to release anything before the official launch of the book but I can certainly start planing.
I won't be scrapping the 3.5 stuff (not after the work I've put it).
I'm thinking the Pathfinder will probably be a new program based on the NPC generator with a seperate menu option (I'm going away from the idea of a pathfinder flag on my current generator).|
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I've been personally trying to get away from calling it D&D and just calling it Pathfinder myself.
I started selling all my 3.5 core books online as well as some of my Forgotten Realms stuff (just because I'm now SO disenchanted with the setting it's not even funny) to make room for more Pathfinder stuff as well as new OGL products being produced. I haven't gotten into Kobold Quarterly yet but I'm quite curious about it.
Wow, and here I was feeling guilty about feeling that way about the 3.x realms books.
I have the 2e super trillogy of deities (Faiths & Avatars, Powers and Pantheons, and Demihuman Deities) and about the only one that screams 'keep me' is Powers of Faerun and Races of Faerun.
You know at first I did a little too ... but the whole Spellplague not only destroyed a lot of Faerun but my interest too. I can't even read the novels which I used to love without thinking about what happens next.
I'm keeping the 3rd edition Campaign Setting along with Silver Marches, Unapproachable East and Shining South. I'm also not getting rid of my 2nd edition Forgotten Realms box set campaign setting either, but that's more nostalgia.
My characters' new home is Golarion, which has actually been a lot of fun to do. And hmmmm. This makes me think of a different topic. (goes off to create)
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I won't be scrapping the 3.5 stuff (not after the work I've put it).
I'm thinking the Pathfinder will probably be a new program based on the NPC generator with a seperate menu option (I'm going away from the idea of a pathfinder flag on my current generator).
Seperate menu option is a great idea. Thanks for answering my question.
...but the whole Spellplague not only destroyed a lot of Faerun but my interest too. I can't even read the novels which I used to love without thinking about what happens next.
I can't read the novels anymore either. I tried... I really tried... Everytime I read something in a novel about the spellplague it made me cringe. I had to stop. Now I no longer buy Realms novels unless they are older ones. I even avoid new novels by my favorite authors now. Sad.