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mittean wrote:
i am not able to download the power point. :(

Can you download file? If you prefer I can upload a JPG file for you.


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Patricio Calderón wrote:
1) I left very clear that this was my first PBP and my experience as DM is enough but not a lot.

Which is fine, we are just trying to give you some feedback so that you can be the best DM you can be. Try not to get too defensive, we are just trying to help make the game fun for everyone, including you.

Patricio Calderón wrote:
2) We have a conflict here, if you can't see it maybe we are not talking the same language, but finding an amnesic man and helping him to recover his life is a hook that is over the standard plots I have found on very solid adventures even from giants as WotC. If the story has not progressed is because of the lack of interest some players have demonstrate while others have played very well looking towards where this adventure takes them. This is a premature moment to judge the quality of a PBP, we have not even starting this to say this is not working or there is nothing here to do.

Well I can't speak for anyone else but myself, but I've felt we've been thwarted a couple of times. We have tried to seek out information but we keep getting, "Nobody knows anything". After a few times of that and it can feel like you're just running in place. I'm not suggesting that everything should be easy, but we need to feel like we are actually getting somewhere or dropped some hints as to where to go if we are on the wrong track.

Patricio Calderón wrote:
3) The use of maps and tiles, tactical combat and exploration is one of the aspects of the RPGs that results very funny for many players, if not then we would not have companies that make a living selling maps, tiles and map creation software, if this is not a part of the RPGs then I don't know what I have been playing the last years.

Yes, those can be fun. But I would warn you, as someone that once ran a PbP game and tried to do maps and such, it really isn't worth it usually. It is better to just get a little more laid back and play fast and loose with the whole tactical combat aspects. Otherwise you might find yourself spending alot of time just to make a map for very little gain. Of course some people have programs that can make it go very fast and it might be something you are really interested, if you find it fun to do, then go for it, but I'd be fine without the maps.

Patricio Calderón wrote:
4) I have made my best but maybe you expected too much from me. Sorry but this is my style, some can love it, some can hate it, some can be indiferent. You are free to stay if you want if not I believe there are many other PBPs out there where you can feel comfortable with. Those who want continue please express it right here, those who want to leave please don't post anymore because it is probably that some who leave can be lured to leave with unpolite comments.

I don't mind different styles. I'm just trying to give you some feedback that might be useful.

Patricio Calderón wrote:
Thanks for reading.

And thank you for considering my comments.


Dear press man:

I considered every one of your comments and I as far as I can see you have been so polite that something tells me you are staying. That is good because I have been working very hard to bring you a good adventure, I said I would work with a pregenerated one but the amnesic player gave me a great idea to an adventure which I am trying to unfold before you, I must realize it has been frustrating for you to go after a clue and seeing how it vanishes before you but those things happen in real life, however if you try harder you will see how everything makes sense in the mesure you are investigating this case.
It is not a problem for me to make a map, as you can see it was very simple and took me less than 10 minutes but it is worth maybe days of complex combat tactics. I am not saying you will have to fight but when it is about encounters you never know, and you don't know what or who you will meet.
I made it very simple for you to work through coordinates which you can use to move through the map and enjoy one of the funniest parts of the game.
Be patient continue with your investigation and you will have more "conflicts" than those you can handle, promised.


Male Human Film producer 3 Film director 2 Real estate investor 1

I'm okay so far. I agree, fast and loose is likely easier, simply for time constraints. It speeds the game up. Complex tactics would come down to DM fiat, IMO. As an amnesiac, my character doesn't feel he has a lot to say at the moment, but he is interested in these people who are trying to help him. But I do agree, he is frustrated. Several leads that all led to dead ends kind of left me feeling I didn't know where to look. It may be a difference in play style that works at the table (faster dialog to investigation), vs. in pbp (where an evening of character interaction can realistically take a week or more.
In a pbp I am in, they had 86 pages, over the course of four weeks of only role playing between characters. The DM just let it go, as the characters were enjoying it. The time line moved forward about three days. Very different from at the table, where a six hour session would have handled that.
So my only advice is you may want to simplify the "investigation" process a little for times sake to keep interest high. The combat can be faster and looser, with you as the DM interpreting to the best of your ability our precise movements. Tell us the story more than the stats. I'm more concerned with surviving, and learning who I am, and growing in my relationships with these people, and the people in the world around me, than am about moving six squares, or seven, and crossing through a threatened square. If I say "Close to the gnoll across the bar room, and attack him with a chair", tell me if I would provoke. Tell me if I hit or miss. And tell me I pasted the gnolls teeth on the wall in a pleasing manner to my allies. :)
You're doing fime, Patricio. We all tell the story together. Patience is a must in PBP, as is trimming away the delaying fat if possible to speed things up. Lets game!


Male Elf 12th Wizard (Evoker)

Patricio, I was not directing any comments against you directly, I totally understand being new. I bear you no ill feelings for your style. If you felt that way, please accept my apologies. PBP is a challenge even for very expereinced DM's. I think though that I should bow out of the game, as I am unable to post more than once a day and occasionally if Im busy at work, maybe even skipping a day; and it seems to me that you are hoping for a group that can.

I am sorry once more if you took my words as being 'against' you, when all they were meant to do is explain why I was at a loss for what to say...

Good luck to you. I truly wish you lots of enjoyment. Good Gaming.

Dread
(Eren)


Male Human Film producer 3 Film director 2 Real estate investor 1

I think a jpeg would work, yes. Thanks.


mittean wrote:
I think a jpeg would work, yes. Thanks.

I converted it to a jpg and uploaded the map to my photobucket gallery... here is a link for those who could not read it before.

LINK TO MAP


cwslyclgh wrote:
mittean wrote:
I think a jpeg would work, yes. Thanks.

I converted it to a jpg and uploaded the map to my photobucket gallery... here is a link for those who could not read it before.

LINK TO MAP

Thanks.


I did not intend this encounter finished in a fight but you have made your choice and that is a RPG, however my intention was to the man to discover some clues about his past and personality but mittean did not read his spoiler message at time to act in the way I would like he does in order to avoid confrontation and give clues about who is he. This is the kind of things that happen when players are not periodically reading the thread to see the advance of the game. Well you chose to fight...enjoy.


as a DM of both PBP and in person games, you will find that what you intend to happen and what realy does happen are often two different things... whether the players seem to be be paying attention or not, LOL... it might not be a total loss though, maybe Man can hook up with the girls anyway, once the fight is over.


Male Human Film producer 3 Film director 2 Real estate investor 1

He hopes so... lol.


I think Erenar Denollan is out... so waiting on his initiative is futile... don't know about Aravilar though... I think we should assume that he is still back looking for his wallet someplace, and continue on with out him, adding him back in if he starts posting again (he finaly catches up to us).


cwslyclgh wrote:
I think Erenar Denollan is out... so waiting on his initiative is futile... don't know about Aravilar though... I think we should assume that he is still back looking for his wallet someplace, and continue on with out him, adding him back in if he starts posting again (he finaly catches up to us).

You are the most right I also think they are out so we will continue only the four of you, necesary changes will be done to adapt what I have to a party of four. I won't invite anybody else, because I don't have neither the energy nor the time to look for more players, so if you four still want to play, let's continue with this till the end. I only wanted they don't feel excluded so I gave them time to show up but I won't wait anymore, let's go with this.


Guys it is a time expenditure to me using invisiblecastle what do you think if I use real dice I promise promise promise I will be honest on my rolls. Agree?


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Patricio Calderón wrote:
Guys it is a time expenditure to me using invisiblecastle what do you think if I use real dice I promise promise promise I will be honest on my rolls. Agree?

I can roll my own on the site, it doesn't take me too long. But if I am away and you need to roll for me, then doing it yourself is fine.


Patricio Calderón wrote:
Guys it is a time expenditure to me using invisiblecastle what do you think if I use real dice I promise promise promise I will be honest on my rolls. Agree?

I don't really care one way or another... heck, you don't even have to tell me the exact numbers that I rolled, I am happy just with you just telling me the results of my actions, I trust you to be fair, impartial and honest.


I am going to be leaving tonight to go camping for the weekend, and will be unable to post until Monday sometime... if the DM needs my character to do something while I am gone, he can run Gulgrym as he sees fit... otherwise Gulgrym will follow "Man" around until I get back.


cwslyclgh wrote:
I am going to be leaving tonight to go camping for the weekend, and will be unable to post until Monday sometime... if the DM needs my character to do something while I am gone, he can run Gulgrym as he sees fit... otherwise Gulgrym will follow "Man" around until I get back.

Camping? Cool!! Good for you! Ok let's see what happens with Gulgrym in my hands.


I am back


cwslyclgh wrote:
I am back

It is good to know because two days ago no one post I hope to see more movement over here.


again I ask... are we still playing?

(it has been 4 days since anybody posted to the game...)

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