the one I am playing is based on the comic character Malik the dark elf; but I toned him down a lot using the Modred templete as he would be a lot stronger than most other pc's; but with supergirl and green lantern in the mix, am thinking I could put him back up to his normal powerlevel and fit in better.
I've never heard of this character. What is the name of the comic?
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DiDio is killing off Nightwing, Birds of Prey and Robin.
The Dark Days of DiDio are not coming, they are here. Excuse me, I have to stop shaving, bathing, and start wearing a cardboard sign around my neck explaining my concerns to passers by as I rant on a street corner now.
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DiDio is killing off Nightwing, Birds of Prey and Robin.
On the one hand, I mourn any decent title that goes away (Power Company, Young Justice, Legion of Super-Heroes, Young Avengers).
On the other hand, I see titles that *didn't* go away, that used to be total favorites, that ended up going terribly awry (Thunderbolts, Exiles, New Mutants, Teen Titans).
Sometimes I wonder if putting a character or team on hiatus might be a better solution than to leave them in the hands of writing and editorial teams that seem utterly perplexed as to how to use them, or how to maintain the feel that made them successful in the first place.
Maybe it's better to let them go fallow for awhile, to keep them out of the hands of the Rob Liefields and the Brian Bendises, who want to completely re-envision them into something grittier and more fitting their own personal sensibilities, in the hopes that someone who respects the property and is willing to explore it, like Kurt Busiek, is available to pick it up and restore it to greatness without killing half the team off and making the other half into bitter world-wearied gun-toting super-thugs.
Nightwing, in particular, I'd rather see on hiatus than left under the helm of Didio, who has repeatedly expressed a wish to kill the character, or at least radically change him, since he doesn't like him the way he is.
DiDio is killing off Nightwing, Birds of Prey and Robin.On the one hand, I mourn any decent title that goes away (Power Company, Young Justice, Legion of Super-Heroes, Young Avengers).
On the other hand, I see titles that *didn't* go away, that used to be total favorites, that ended up going terribly awry (Thunderbolts, Exiles, New Mutants, Teen Titans).
Nan-je-tat, you have a point on those four titles. I have no idea what happened to Thunderbolts- I stopped reading when they ended up in the Savage Land for some reason. Exiles jumped the rails for me only recently, sometime after the whole thing with Mimic and the Brood eggs inside him. New Mutants....
New Mutants. Wow. That's a title I never thought I'd see on any list of this sort. New Mutants was one of the first comics I ever read. I loved X-Men, but when their drama got a little too '80's soap opera, I turned to New Mutants. Here were kids who were just powerful enough to be interesting without completely unbalancing the title. Although I was more than little frustrated when Liefield jumped in towards the end, the series had the good grace to end. I was never an X-Force fan, and would never consider anything that happened in there to be even remotely related to New Mutants. Sam? IMMORTAL? Someone's been watching too much Highlander!
But the series restarted the right way, IMO- with a bunch of kids just powerful enough to be interesting trying to wrap their heads around the M-word, not just figuring out how to be the next generation of X-Men. I picked up almost every issue right up until the whole M-Day/church of humanity thing started, and the entire title went flying over the shark tank. The wholesale slaughter of so many young characters, all of whom had potential, just didn't sit well with me. Even moreso now that they've brought some of the dead ones back(they were only mostly blown up!).
But yes, New Mutants(which I guess is now New X-Men) would be better served by being put on hiatus.
As for Teen Titans...Man, what a mindjob that title has become. Is it Teen Titans or THE Titans that you are referring to? Each has their own headaches which are too numerous to mention here, so I'd need something more specific before I start ranting(although I have to say that the cartoon series did more harm than good).
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Nan-je-tat, you have a point on those four titles.
Yeah, I cherry-picked the most 'off-the-rails' examples I could think of, obviously, but I would much rather have seen the New Mutants, for example, go on a break than fall into the power-mad grasp of Rob Liefield.
And, given that I kind of like Nightwing, I'd rather see him walk off into the sunset and have a life off-screen for a bit, than remain in the unkind clutches of an Editor-in-Chief who has stated that he wants him dead!
I'll confess to knowing bupkiss about Birds of Prey or Robin's solo book (although I very much enjoyed the character of Tim Drake in Young Justice and later Teen Titans appearances).
For that reason, I'm not sure how much I dread the idea of the Legion perhaps taking a break until a creator who respects them and, more importantly, has a great idea for them, comes along. Many comics, IMO, kind of bumble along with new teams being assigned to them and 'making the best of it,' but it's a rare treat when an artist/writer comes along with a bang-up idea for a property (Walt Simonson on Thor, Alan Moore on Swamp Thing, Wolfman/Perez on Teen Titans) and turns out a masterpiece, but, too often, that flash of success is then followed by an editorial notion that this property is now 'hot' and 'can't be neglected,' and ends up becoming a dumping ground for desperate attempts to recapture whatever bottled lightning struck there once, which, IMO, only damages the brand.
Nan-je-tat, you have a point on those four titles.Yeah, I cherry-picked the most 'off-the-rails' examples I could think of, obviously, but I would much rather have seen the New Mutants, for example, go on a break than fall into the power-mad grasp of Rob Liefield.
And, given that I kind of like Nightwing, I'd rather see him walk off into the sunset and have a life off-screen for a bit, than remain in the unkind clutches of an Editor-in-Chief who has stated that he wants him dead!
I'll confess to knowing bupkiss about Birds of Prey or Robin's solo book (although I very much enjoyed the character of Tim Drake in Young Justice and later Teen Titans appearances).
For that reason, I'm not sure how much I dread the idea of the Legion perhaps taking a break until a creator who respects them and, more importantly, has a great idea for them, comes along. Many comics, IMO, kind of bumble along with new teams being assigned to them and 'making the best of it,' but it's a rare treat when an artist/writer comes along with a bang-up idea for a property (Walt Simonson on Thor, Alan Moore on Swamp Thing, Wolfman/Perez on Teen Titans) and turns out a masterpiece, but, too often, that flash of success is then followed by an editorial notion that this property is now 'hot' and 'can't be neglected,' and ends up becoming a dumping ground for desperate attempts to recapture whatever bottled lightning struck there once, which, IMO, only damages the brand.
This is one of those times where your opinion, my opinion, and the truth are one and the same. What are your opinions on how to deal with this?
As much as I dislike Liefield, I see where he's coming from with the idea of creators owning their characters, and I think that there should be something done so that authors and artists have more of a say as to what happens to characters they create- it may keep more established characters(Superman, Spider-Man, etc) from being shoehorned into ridiculous storylines that simply don't fit them. That said, DC Comic fans in particular have a bad reputation when it comes to welcoming new characters(New Blood, etc). Perhaps bringing back the limited series might help in this area.
Next up, dead characters should remain dead, particularly in the Marvel Universe. While I was as upset as anyone at the death of Blue Beetle, I am glad that they decided to KEEP him dead, aside from his brief stint in Booster Gold where he sacrificed himself yet again. A well written, noble end means a lot and should be taken seriously, as opposed to how things work in the Marvel Universe, where Magneto and Professor X have been killed off and brought back so many times, it's impossible to take them seriously anymore.
Finally, cancelled books should, likewise, remain cancelled. No attempts to resurrect old titles with new lineups, no changes in leadership or makeup that result in a re-christening of the team. Either a series is doing well, or it isn't. Sure this may seem hypocritical as Legion hasn't been selling too well, but again, I'd rather have people walk into the sunset (Slingers) than explode into nonsense (Runaways).
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This is one of those times where your opinion, my opinion, and the truth are one and the same. What are your opinions on how to deal with this?
Not to create books just because 'we should have a Wonder Woman book' or 'we can't not have a Wolverine book!' Only greenlight a title if a writer or creative team shows up and says, 'I have the hottest idea ever for Alpha Flight, can I please?' Every attempt at a relaunch, purely for the sake of a relaunch, that I've seen, seems to be doomed from the outset. Rather than a Busiek or a Simonson or a Moore who says, 'OMG! I have this great idea for this character/team!' it's invariably some random schmoes getting *assigned* to work on character X, and they may be the best writers / artists in the world, but if they didn't *choose* to work on the property because they *wanted* to work on it and already had ideas and inspirations regarding it, that tends to show up in their very first issue, when they start changing things, because the character/team doesn't speak to them personally, and so they have to tweak things and change them around to fit their own interests *which are clearly not the same as the fans of that property.*
Re-launching the Teen Titans, again, or deciding that the world really needs an Aquaman book or a Green Arrow book, when the creative team has so little interest in the character that they introduce someone else to play the role, is a study in how to fail, IMO, if it's a decision made up top for purely image reasons, and not something that creative sorts are chomping at the bit to do.
So yeah, Rob Liefield gets lots of crap, but creator-owned does seem to have it's advantages, in that nobody is going to pick Youngblood up, swap out half the team (because they don't care about the property, and were just told to 'make a monthly book named Youngblood so that we don't lose the property rights') and write a story that doesn't at all fit the tone or characterizations (such as they were) that Rob laid down in the beginning.
But that's really all kind of pie-in-the-sky anyway. It would never happen, and the fate of Image comics in general is part of the reason why. At some point, editorial control changed from management (get these pages in on time, son!) to micro-management (this year, you'll be writing issues this year that tie into the following six mega-events, you can't leave New York, because that's where the action is going to be, we're taking Character X away from you and moving her to Team Schniktbub, and you're forbidden to write any storylines that explain Character Y's origin because he's going to be retconned in Event Z...), and I don't see that trend reversing.
The title says it all. Love it. My first passion. I want to be just like Phantom Girl.
Come to Dubuque, Iowa, and you can be in my proposed Third Legion campaign. You can be Phantom Girl's great-great-great-great-great granddaughter.
The title says it all. Love it. My first passion. I want to be just like Phantom Girl.Come to Dubuque, Iowa, and you can be in my proposed Third Legion campaign. You can be Phantom Girl's great-great-great-great-great granddaughter.
What's a third Legion campaign?
What's a third Legion campaign?The title says it all. Love it. My first passion. I want to be just like Phantom Girl.Come to Dubuque, Iowa, and you can be in my proposed Third Legion campaign. You can be Phantom Girl's great-great-great-great-great granddaughter.
I've always been a fan of Legion of Super-Heroes. Recently I got the idea of running a game set about 1400 years after a world in which there was a legion like LSH and L.E.G.I.O.N. I've changed a number of the tropes and it is not really DC Universe, but a lot of elements from LSH will be in. I'll probably even have an evil wizard named Mordru.
Maybe I can get my act together and post something on the net.
What's a third Legion campaign?The title says it all. Love it. My first passion. I want to be just like Phantom Girl.Come to Dubuque, Iowa, and you can be in my proposed Third Legion campaign. You can be Phantom Girl's great-great-great-great-great granddaughter.I've always been a fan of Legion of Super-Heroes. Recently I got the idea of running a game set about 1400 years after a world in which there was a legion like LSH and L.E.G.I.O.N. I've changed a number of the tropes and it is not really DC Universe, but a lot of elements from LSH will be in. I'll probably even have an evil wizard named Mordru.
Maybe I can get my act together and post something on the net.
What game system are you using? What are you doing for fluff? What kind of gaming accessories?
What game system are you using? What are you doing for fluff? What kind of gaming accessories?What's a third Legion campaign?I've always been a fan of Legion of Super-Heroes. Recently I got the idea of running a game set about 1400 years after a world in which there was a legion like LSH and L.E.G.I.O.N. I've changed a number of the tropes and it is not really DC Universe, but a lot of elements from LSH will be in. I'll probably even have an evil wizard named Mordru.
Maybe I can get my act together and post something on the net.
My plan is to use BESM D20 for the game system, creating classes for the various types of character (strongman, speedster, mystic, intellect, etc). I am billing it as "Anime science fiction" to try to attract attention from those who might not be fans of the LSH storyline.
Storyline says that in the far future, anybody who wants to can gain "super powers" by cybernetics, genetic engineering, nanotechnology, mystical study, et al. (Moving away from "She was trapped in a nuclear reactor" to things like "She was genetically engineered to survive frequent radioactive flares from a nearby unstable star").
I haven't quite decided how much of the LSH storyline or which version of it to include.
The Third Legion is set up more like a paramilitary organization where new recruits are given simple uniforms and gain colors as they go up in rank. The Legionnaires are adults, not teenagers, although with extended lifespans and advanced technology "adolescence" may continue a lot beyond age 20. At the top rank of Legionnaire, the character can replace the uniform with a costume of her own design or one designed for her.
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Storyline says that in the far future, anybody who wants to can gain "super powers" by cybernetics, genetic engineering, nanotechnology, mystical study, et al. (Moving away from "She was trapped in a nuclear reactor" to things like "She was genetically engineered to survive frequent radioactive flares from a nearby unstable star").
Many Legion 'aliens' would be well-suited to being human colonists who underwent some sort of 'terraforming' / transhumanization process to adapt to their new worlds, which would fit well with that line of thinking.
In this sort of paradigm, Braalians wouldn't have magnetic powers because they 'evolved them to cope with metal monsters,' they would be human colonists to a world with insanely high magnetic fields, but ultra-rich exotic mineral deposits, making it productive to colonize, but only after massively genetically engineering the colonists to be able to survive and function in the high magnetic fields. Off of Braal, their magnetic sensitivity and ability to channel and direct magnetic fields at close range, would be something like a 'superpower' to non-modified humans, and, as with all species, there would occasionally be truly gifted specimens born (or made), who would go on to be the 'magno-ball champs' or the superheroes.
My plan is to use BESM D20 for the game system, creating classes for the various types of character (strongman, speedster, mystic, intellect, etc). I am billing it as "Anime science fiction" to try to attract attention from those who might not be fans of the LSH storyline.
Not familiar with BESM d20 game system, can you elaborate?
Not familiar with BESM d20 game system, can you elaborate?
BESM D20 is another D20 system, this one designed to support anime tropes. They have a character point system that is used to define character classes, or to add extra powers to characters with regular class levels. (I've long been using a stripped-down version of this character point system for my own D&D campaign.)
BESM D20 is designed so that D&D characters and creatures, or D20 Modern characters and creatures, can easily be dropped in. To make a character of any D&D creature, just take the level adjustment times 10, and that is the number of character points you need to spend.
The major difference is that combat rules have been changed to emphasize one-on-one combat.
So, given that many of the colonists on other worlds had special abilities genetically engineered to adapt to hostile environments, each race would have character point cost, similar to the level adjustment in D&D.
he is one of the Asgardian guys; one of Thor's villains.
the one I am playing is based on the comic character Malik the dark elf; but I toned him down a lot using the Modred templete as he would be a lot stronger than most other pc's; but with supergirl and green lantern in the mix, am thinking I could put him back up to his normal powerlevel and fit in better.I've never heard of this character. What is the name of the comic?
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he is one of the Asgardian guys; one of Thor's villains.
the one I am playing is based on the comic character Malik the dark elf; but I toned him down a lot using the Modred templete as he would be a lot stronger than most other pc's; but with supergirl and green lantern in the mix, am thinking I could put him back up to his normal powerlevel and fit in better.I've never heard of this character. What is the name of the comic?
Malekith the Dark Elf. From the legendary Walt Simonson run on Thor from 337 to like the 360s.
Just picked up the latest issue of LOSH. Even my wife liked this one, and she hates the old school name scheme. It was everything a "filler" issue should be, complete with Legion try-outs, which were the crux of the issue. It even showed how each Legionnaire voted regarding the new members, and explanations why some people were not included, which was a nice touch. My only complaint was the sudden and unexpected return of Sun Boy, which seemed a little forced, especially since he showed up on tryout day and was voted in, denying a new character a spot in the Legion proper. However, this is remedied by the beginning of a "Legion Reserves"- what most true fans would consider the Subs- which has Turtle, Sizzle and Night Girl as its newest members(the latter has a priceless wardrobe malfunction this issue- was she always busty? My wife liked her, partially for the wardrobe malfunction[super hero clothes aren't always durable], but also because she said she wanted to wrestle one of the boys to get into the Legion- and smacked Ultra Boy around some). Sun Boy and Gazelle are the newest Legionnaires.
Storyline-wise,the issue was rather..well, lacking. Like I said its a filler issue, and while the undercurrent of suspicion towards the people from the "intruder planet" is interesting, it really doesn't go anywhere until the last page. In fact, it's the next issue that interests me, implying that Projectra is going to go toe to toe with the Legion regarding the whole lost planet/magic/Dream Girl thing- which interests me. Speaking of Dream Girl- whatever happened to Dream Boy? I liked him despite the fact he wasn't Legion canon, although I would have preferred that he was a battle-precog instead of a male version of Dream Girl.
Who knows? Maybe I'll use him when I start posting Legion stories, the day of which is coming soon.
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Speaking of Dream Girl- whatever happened to Dream Boy? I liked him despite the fact he wasn't Legion canon, although I would have preferred that he was a battle-precog instead of a male version of Dream Girl.
Who knows? Maybe I'll use him when I start posting Legion stories, the day of which is coming soon.
When Dreamy went back to Naltor (early in the threeboot), a pair of Naltorian 'PreCops' where schooling Shady and KK handily when one of them said to the other, 'There's another one behind you.' and he snarkily replied 'Tell me something I don't know.' Dreamy, the Legionnaire behind him said, 'Okay, you're wife is going to leave you next week.'
When Dream Boy showed up, I had this insane notion that he was that same PreCop that Dreamy had taunted, having indeed been left by his wife and having a better reason than most highly-trained Naltorian precogs to jump at an off-planet assignment...
But, apparently not. Missed opportunity there.
I've also used him in fanfic. I like the idea of characters that have some sort of untold story going on, and he's the ultimate untold story character!
Where do you post your stuff again, Set? I'd like to take a look at it.
Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
hmm; I am the 13th poster on this thread; hehe; is that unlucky or like the 13th warrior; hehe; seems I am one of the only ones posting from the start; a moment of silent for them lost heroes; ... ok; lets get ready to party, woot!
This invite is still open o wonderous Eileenofmanythreads; got your little sexy fey tart still flitting around; the story is starting to warm up now that we are getting some players; stop in; you can join up if you like anytime; open invitation to you anytime :)
absolutely girl; sheesh;
<= writes down on a piece of paper; Eileen, I want you to play in my PBP game and maybe one more player! puts the note in the blender with some high energy drink; blends it to a pulp; gets a hammer and chisel and a straw; opens a hole in Eileentheprophetwhodoesntbelievehehe's cartoon head; pours in the message; seals with a big ace bandage.hehe, believe me now
<we return now to your regularly scheduled program>
Where do you post your stuff again, Set? I'd like to take a look at it.Dream Boy shows up in Ghosts & Dreams (which is a very, very short story).
Set, this is hella good. I'm downloading all of this to read on my trip to VA around christmas, I don't think I'll have time before then to sit down and read it all, but I will try.
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Set, this is hella good. I'm downloading all of this to read on my trip to VA around christmas, I don't think I'll have time before then to sit down and read it all, but I will try.Where do you post your stuff again, Set? I'd like to take a look at it.Dream Boy shows up in Ghosts & Dreams (which is a very, very short story).
Thank you very much! Any amount of commentary is welcome, although you might want to move it to my email instead of cluttering up our lovely and talented hostesses thread. :)
My addy is in my profile.
Ok, so tell me about either the fist Legion story you ever read or your favorite. Include the who, what, why, where, when, and how. If you have never read a Legion story then tell us what you would like to read about so we can recommend one for you. If you have never read one and never want to then explain why you bother to come to this thread. If you have read one and hated the Legion then tell us which story it was. Include the who, what, why, where, when, and how and we will try and change your mind. If you don't have a mind to change then we will attempt to utilize 30th century technology to help you out. If you don't want help it doesn't matter because you don't have the mental capacity to determine what is good and bad for you. If your still reading this post then you are a desparate and lonely person. If your desparate and lonely, tell us how the Legion can improve the quality of your life. If you don't want the quality of your life improved then read something other than Legion. If you want the quality of your life improved then tell me about either the fist Legion story you ever read or your favorite. Include the who, what, why, where, when, and how.
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Ok, so tell me about either the fist Legion story you ever read or your favorite.
I honestly don't remember the first. It was like 30 years ago or something... Was it Ultra Boy on Rimbor trying to prove his innocence in the murder of An Ryd? Was it a mad Brainy creating Omega with the Miracle Machine, requiring Matter-Eater Lad to save the day by *eating* the Miracle Machine? I dunno. It was probably well before either of those, but I don't remember.
My favorite single story-arc would probably be the Universo Project. Imra, Brainy, Dreamy and Cham, against pretty much the rest of the universe, including their mind-controlled teammates! The Great Darkness Saga / LSV War where amazing and all that, but the Universo Project wins for me because it deals so intimately with a smaller cast.
I probably read some of the older ones before, but the first one I remember strongly was #302 - the one with Mekt and Garth fighting on the cover (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Legion_of_Super-Heroes_Vol_2_302.jpg). I don't think I can pick a favorite, though. There's too many good ones! ;)
My very first issue of Legion story was told somewhere early on in this thread, but in the spirit of conversation here it is again. I was in the 4th grade, and the kids brought in comics for the day to pore over at lunch in direct violation of the schools no comic books policy. We sifted through the Marvel stuff- X-Men, Spidey, and a really good issue of Daredevil from when he was being chased around the city during acts of vengeance. Then there was the DC stuff. Most of us avoided it, wary of being considered "gay" for being too into Batman and Robin(their perceived lifestyle was a serious issue at the time) and the general "goody-goody" dynamic of many of the books at that time outside of Justice League International and Batman and the Outsiders turned us off. Somewhere in there was Legion of Super Heroes. I vaguely remember the cover- it had Wildfire on it and a few of the "newer" characters(the Blok generation). I remember the issue was in the aftermath of one of the big shakeups of the universe,and the characters were discussing what to do next; it must not have gone well for them because the very first page had Wildfire going "Damn, Damn and Double Damn"- something that got our attention right away(we still though Damn was an utterly awful word at the time). Once I saw that, I was hooked- Superheroes CURSING?!?! WOW!
They visited the Legion academy and saw Karate Kid II fighting some robots the wrong way or something, and Polar Boy gave him advice that if he wanted to join the Legion, he should do things their way- Period. I was also intrigued by the idea of Bouncing Boy- the dude had a huge gut, but he was in there swinging and bouncing around with the best of 'em. AND his wife was hot(I think she appeared in there anyway). Also, the end of the comic had a side story on Timber Wolf trying to get back together with Lightning Lass and her going 10K Mega-watt on him for being an idiot. The artist's depiction of her powers was another thing that got me- who did the art in those days?
My favorite Legion story would be a toss-up between almost the entirety of THE LEGION run and the very beginning of the Legionnaires run- two books that I got into after a hiatus from collecting, the former after a VERY long foray into manga and the latter after being "grounded" from comics for a year by an naive mother who honestly thought that taking away my comics would make me better at math.
Just got back from a minor comic run. Bought the latest 2 issues of Legion plus both covers of Legion of 3 Worlds #2. Also bought a bunch of Timber Wolf and Valor comics. Will read the Legion and 3 worlds first and post Mon-Tues. on them. Also have the opportunity to buy some silver age comics from an elder gentleman as well, a Superman annual which apparently has an old Legion story in it and a Superman comic as well, both from 1962. I'll check them out anyway.
Going Christmas shopping soon, will be scoping out some Legion action figures I saw last time and had to bypass. They were Colossal Boy (silver age) and the original Invisible Kid. Standard size of about 15 inches I'd say. I believe they were priced at $15 each, so hopefully they are still there.
My first Legion Comic was Superboy starring the Legion of Super-Heroes issue #212 "Last Fight for a Legionnaire" and "A Death Stroke at Dawn" as the second story. As some of you know, my evil brother had sold my Legion comics in college to pay for his monthly fix of Spiderman and other Marvel titles (Boo...Hiss)! It was after he sold my comics that I called it quits.
The primary story was when six Legionnaires....Phantom Girl (YAY!), Cosmic Boy, Chameleon Boy, Matter-Eater Lad, Saturn Girl, and Shrinking Violet were challenged by Calorie Queen and her gang. They were upset because they were all rejected because their were already Legionnaires present representing their homeworlds. Magno Lad was the latest one to get rejected and decided to take his frustations out on a metallic statue of Ferro Lad which sat in Nolan Plaza (Andrew Nolan was Ferro Lad's real name). I was awed by the idea of a fallen hero, not to mention Ferro Lad looked so cool. Anyway, to prove their point, they burst into the Legion Headquarters and attacked the above Legionnaires, besting all of them with their suprise attack. Superboy showed up and literally threw them out (he wrapped them all up in his cape and threw them out the door). The Legionnaires agreed to meet them for one more fight and when they did, they used teamwork and defeated them.
The second story featured Night Girl of the Substitutes. Rock (Cosmic Boy) had broken up with her and she was distrought. To prove her value, she tracked down Crafty Colson and his gang late at night. Shadow Lass came in and saved her. Later, Crafty Colson and his gang managed to suprise Cosmic Boy as he was returning home from a date with another girl. They nabbed him and Night Girl saw it. Just as the sun was rising, she flew into them breaking their hold on Cosmic Boy, who then in turn trashed them like the scum they are. The last panel shows Cosmic Boy flying off with Lydda in his arms.
My second comic was issue #206 "The Legionnaires Who Haunted Superboy" backed by Welcome Home Daughter...Now Die!"
In the first story, Ferro Lad and Invisible Kid show up in 20th century Smallville and reveal themselves to Superboy. He then gets an emergency call about a robot outside of town and they all fly off to battle it. After defeating the robot, Ferro Lad and Invisible Kid announce that they are going to return to the Legion. They someonehow already had a time bubble and soon arrived in teh 30th century. Just as they did, the bubble exploded killing both of them. We later find out that they were clones created by Brainiac who was trying to perfect the cloning of dead Legionnaires and that Superboy was in on the whole thing to test the clones. The clones never realized they were duplicates though.
The second story featured Princess Projectra who (after an arguement with Karate Kid) went to Orando to visit her parents. She was ill at the time and suffered from a fever. She arrived much sooner than expected. When she got on the planet surface she was arrested by some knights (Orando is essentially a mid-evil style planet), When they escort her to her father's castle she sees someone else sitting on the throne rather than her parents. She is then taken outside to face Morgu as a death sentance. As she walks along, she is attacked bu his horrible monster but quickly saved by Karate Kid. He shakes her, tells her to clear her head, and when she does, she realizes that they are not on Orando but rather some barren planet. Apparently the fever affected her illusion powers and she created the whole Orando fiascal without realizing it. They are then attacked by a real Morgu. She saves Karate Kid and together they continue the journey to Orando.
Fast forward ahead many years later, I found Superboy starring the Legion of Super-Heroes #212 (yes I really did) and bought it for .50 cents. That got me hooked again and I am now the proud owner of most of the Legion comic titles ever produced. I'm still missing issues, but I probably have 4/5 of every Legion title printed I'd say.
Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.
hmm; I am the 13th poster on this thread; hehe; is that unlucky or like the 13th warrior; hehe; seems I am one of the only ones posting from the start; a moment of silent for them lost heroes; ... ok; lets get ready to party, woot!
To funny, I laughed. Honestly, I'm amazed this thread is this long and still going.
This invite is still open o wonderous Eileenofmanythreads; got your little sexy fey tart still flitting around; the story is starting to warm up now that we are getting some players; stop in; you can join up if you like anytime; open invitation to you anytime :)
absolutely girl; sheesh;
<= writes down on a piece of paper; Eileen, I want you to play in my PBP game and maybe one more player! puts the note in the blender with some high energy drink; blends it to a pulp; gets a hammer and chisel and a straw; opens a hole in Eileentheprophetwhodoesntbelievehehe's cartoon head; pours in the message; seals with a big ace bandage.hehe, believe me now
<we return now to your regularly scheduled program>
Thanks for the invite, but I'm happy with the Supers PBP. Just not in a D&D mood. Thanks though. Go Supers!
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
I like that idea....."Click" goes the hand cuffs. "Crack" goes the whip. Now you've been a very bad boy....leans over....slowly draps the whip across his face....Where I come from, there is a price to pay for such insolence. SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!" Crack goes the whip again. "And then there is the matter of the Superhero PBP as well".
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
::burns demo tape of Legion Theme Song by Sting::
Uh..yeah..I tried, but I just couldn't. Please be merciful, EvilTwinSisterofEileen...
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
::burns demo tape of Legion Theme Song by Sting::
Uh..yeah..I tried, but I just couldn't. Please be merciful, EvilTwinSisterofEileen...
First of all....mercy is for the weak!
Second of all, I need a DNA sample...
Withdraws syringe with 4 in needle.
"Yank"
From the more strategic areas......
Inches syringe closer and closer...
"Perhaps I blindfold would make this more intresting."
Puts blind fold on herself...
Brings the syringe closer and closer....
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
::burns demo tape of Legion Theme Song by Sting::
Uh..yeah..I tried, but I just couldn't. Please be merciful, EvilTwinSisterofEileen...First of all....mercy is for the weak!
Second of all, I need a DNA sample...
Withdraws syringe with 4 in needle.
"Yank"
From the more strategic areas......
Inches syringe closer and closer...
"Perhaps I blindfold would make this more intresting."
Puts blind fold on herself...
Brings the syringe closer and closer....
Hey maybe you should put the blindfold on meeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW! ::curling my toes in equisite agony::
Sheesh; why does he get to have all the FUN!; I can be bad; really I can :)
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
hmm superhero/villan games; I guess this is a party; woot; cheers.
hmm Mercy for a Week; well; i taint never played that long; I just bend their hands backwords and in no time they are yelling Mercy; or is it Merci? hmm, some say Uncle but I dont know why.
DNah sample much; sampling gets you busted with copywrite laws and it is amazing how much sampling goes on but I keep my nose clean of it.
4 in needle; hmm like 6 in heels better.
Yank's; heck their all overpaid mediocre players; best go with the Tigers.
As for strategic areas; do we have a strategy; wow didnt know we were that organized.
Is this like an adult version of pin the tail on the donkey?
hold on why I copiously spin your around and around....
Hmmm....somehow I missed these three posts. Just found them now. Happy Anniversary to you to. You Sing? You know I'm still trying to come up with a Legion theme song. DM Freehold said he would try and come up with one for us but he never came through....I say we tie him to a bed and let my Evil Twin Sister have her way with him.Well now; Happy Anniversary to Eileen O Phrophetess O spankin good time; this post is coming up on a birthday; Started DEC 1 200&
Cheers and thanks; many more to come; woot; huzzah; yippie; hehe
I might sing tomorrow; as it will be dec 1 hehe
::burns demo tape of Legion Theme Song by Sting::
Uh..yeah..I tried, but I just couldn't. Please be merciful, EvilTwinSisterofEileen...First of all....mercy is for the weak!
Second of all, I need a DNA sample...
Withdraws syringe with 4 in needle.
"Yank"
From the more strategic areas......
Inches syringe closer and closer...
"Perhaps I blindfold would make this more intresting."
Puts blind fold on herself...
Brings the syringe closer and closer....
Sheesh; why does he get to have all the FUN!; I can be bad; really I can :)
Be careful what you wish for. Nobody said Freehold DM was going to come out of this alive...or at least intact. Now as for that DNA sample....perhaps you could give me some horrific suggestions, otherwise I'll just do my own thing, which will eventually require him to give up his internet name and avatar and begin anew all over. If everything is at least semi-successful, I may even start a collection...or perhaps a little group (insert diabolical laugh of your choice).
Wishes; hehe; wishes are my business; my baliwick; my domain if you will; I am the master of wishes! The stars have nothing on me :)
well; I am only an upper torso; our evil companion is only a head, neck and a bit o shoulder; but you Freehold; you gots a whole body to play with :) small to be sure; but complete seems to me hehe and my sword is bigger than your sword lol.
Eileen, did you ever figure out how to turn our playing avatars into dc type supers?
Eileen, did you ever figure out how to turn our playing avatars into dc type supers?
I'm not sure I understand, please clairify. Are you talking about how to make super-hero avatars for the PBP?
which PBP supers would that be? please clarify; are you gonna run one?
what I meant was; oh; some pages back; we bandied around the idea of us as supers; ie me as a efreeti; how would that convert to your game or to the dc universe according more or less to the D&D monster manual and a bit of known myths; the only dc reference I can remember is one is the Justice League; the tv sat morning version; superman battled a djinni who "clapped" him with his hands; and supes struggled out of it.
which PBP supers would that be? please clarify; are you gonna run one?
what I meant was; oh; some pages back; we bandied around the idea of us as supers; ie me as a efreeti; how would that convert to your game or to the dc universe according more or less to the D&D monster manual and a bit of known myths; the only dc reference I can remember is one is the Justice League; the tv sat morning version; superman battled a djinni who "clapped" him with his hands; and supes struggled out of it.
Oh, ok, now I recall that conversation. I can't say I've stated anyone's avatars out, nope, haven't done that. We will have to be patient for another year. I'm taking a week off from work (the week before Christmas) and I hope to delve into the powers all the way. I seem to be hesitating on exactly how they should be done. I've written preliminary examples but I know they aren't in the exact format I want. What is set in stone are the base combat rules, the ability scores, most of the skills, the overall experience point concept, as well as the format of the game in regards to playing more than one character and how that works with plots. What I have left to spend a lot of time on is races and powers along with polishing up the above ideas.
I spent the majority of the year trying to figure out what kind of combat system I wanted to use (a lot of time of which was wasted). What I learned from the experience was "What I didn't want to do". As it stands, the game is bent on....
Character A: Attacks
Character B: Defends
The concepts work on opposed rolls. The greater the difference between the attack and the defense, the more severe the attack was. The closer the attack and defense are, the less severe the blow was. Damage for attacks consists of multiple die (ex. 4d6), plus the ability score bonus, plus a bonus for the severity of the attack (as mentioned above). The defender subtracts their ability score from the damage prior to calculating the total. There are several damage conditions, each indicating how much the character is injured. Each damage condition has a negative modifier applied to your d20 rolls to represent one's injuries.
I've elected to go d20 rather than d% in the long run and realized I didn't want to look at some combat chart for the next several years, so I finally ditched that as well. The good news is, once I decided to roll a d20 virtually everything I had come up with for combat rules using a big ol' chart, I was able to modify and retain, so despite a lot of wasted time, all of it wasn't wasted after all.
I think I should give you the ability scores and you can stat yourself.
So, I guess that's an update. If you want to stat yourself, I would be happy to send you a chapter or two, bear in mind nothing has reached the final product or been completed...well completely. The more powerful you make your own character, the less powerful Legionnaires you get to pick from the comics. Create a weak character of your own and you can pick more powerful Legionnaires to play.
Don't know if I actually answered the question. But I tried.
which PBP supers would that be? please clarify; are you gonna run one?
I don't know, I'm starting to think about it. Hard to say yes when the rules are imcomplete and I've no experience in that area at all. If we did it would be more like a play, make up what we have to in order to fill in the gaps, the players give me polite feed back so I can improve and complete the game (perhaps faster?) It wouldn't be a regular slick PBP your use to, more like an experiment in improving the rules I already have. Then there's the matter of sending you the rules along with constant updates, and so on. I suspect it would be quite tiring for the players. I'd be open to discussion about it though.
All right, I just finished reading issue #47 and 48. I'm going to offer my thoughts on them.
1. Princess Projectra keeps insisting Phantom Girl read the comic, over and over and now she wants her to change the stories ending.
2. The story is about a king who's subjects were all killed and he plans on restoring them.
3. The creatures from the invader world are using data rippers to duplicate beings, buildings, etc.
4. If Brainiac 5 is correct, the invader world delgates are avatars as opposed to living creatures. Avatars which are created by a computer. Everything is coming from a master computer.
5. Brainiac 5 states that time travel is not yet possible in issue #47.
6. They tell us how Brainic 5 selected his name.
7. The invader planet appeared out of nowhere, Brainiac 5 suggests that it doesn't exist in the physical world. I'm thinking it comes from another time, as does the villain.
8. The comic of Phantom Girl shows a particular individual on the cover who was reknown for shrinking cities (similar to the idea of copying images and repopulating subjects).
9. The villain always made extensive uses of robots (in this case computer generated avatars).
10. The villain is Brainiac. Look at the comic Phantom Girls been reading (or Pulsar Stargrave if you wish). His subjects were computers which were defeated by the Coluns, just as in the comic, the king's subjects were killed.
On a side note and just a feeling on these......
11. M'Rissy suggested and set up the tryouts.
12. Gazelle happened to get in.
13. I think the two are working together to undermine the Legion, most likely spies initiated by the villain.
14. And I'm thinking Projectra, isn't the real Princess Projectra at all. The idea that she is so intrested in the comic and wants the ending changed, it too much.
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48 is an issue I'm just in love with. All the little characterization snippets that got worked into people's postures and actions (and votes!) during the tryouts were awesome.
Sun Boy returns. Projectra smacks her fist angrily (since he's been chumming around with the team that destroyed her world and killed her people). Phantom Girl, Colossal Boy, Light Lass and Star Boy all stand up to greet Sun Boy, excitedly, which seems to fit their characterizations in this 'boot' as the four friendliest and most outgoing Legionnaires. (And, in the process, Gim rests his hand on Brainy's shoulder, with Brainy giving it a withering glance, as if an animal had crawled onto his shoulder and died. Heh.)
The picture of Phantom Girl and Saturn Girl discussing what's up with the Princess at the end of the book is, I think, one of the prettiest pictures of Phantom Girl we've seen in years. For a throwaway scene of the character at rest, it's really amazing. It's also interesting that through the entire scene, she's physically clinging to something solid, with the exception of the first panel, where she's phasing into the room through the floor. Foreshadowing? A hint that she sometimes feels like she's 'losing touch' with the solid world and it helps her / reassures her / anchors her to physically hold onto something?
I love Night Girl's outfit and feisty attitude. This is a far cry from the girl who begged her daddy to give her super-powers so that she could meet Cosmic Boy! Hopefully when they replace it with an armored version, they don't change the look of it! (Granted, we've got two issues left, and I don't think we'll see her, Sizzle or Turtle again under this creative team anyway.)