
Evil Twin of Eileen |

If you capture Valegrim, I'll be happy to disect him and find out if there is anything there that produces a sex drive. Heath you want to assist in the dissection? Just the other day I was taking DNA samples from Freehold DM and the Efreeti mentioned how he'd like to get in on things. I think he'd be up for being disected. We could always sell of his body parts afterwards. Easy money for Christmas!

Evil Twin of Eileen |

I wanna wait a couple days.
** spoiler omitted **
I admire a greedy wolf. I shall make the proper preparations. I haven't been good all year so I know I won't be getting anything anyway. Perhaps we could lay a trap for Santa Clause. As soon as he gives you the gifts, we nab him to. I think we could merge the Ereeti's body into Santa Clause rather easily, after all they are already both red.
Now, when we disect the Efreeti, do we use a #1 scalpel or a #2 scalpel? Should we put him under first or not?
NOT!

Evil Twin of Eileen |

Well, we can try without first, and if we need it, we can use the anaesthesia. Otherwise, I'd rather save it for New Year's.
Doncha got those monomolecular scalpels and junk? What kinda futuristic dystopia is this?
These are extremely rusty relics from the 21st century. I thought we would use them because if the disection takes to long I figured the subject would develop gangrene and pieces would just start falling off. Save us the trouble of spending more time cutting him apart. Now if you want to talk about precision surgery we could talk to Tharok of the Fatal Five and find out what they used on him.
Wikipedia:
Tharok is a small-time crook, who tries to impress his bosses by stealing a small nuclear device. It detonates unexpectedly when the local police fire on him, vaporizing one-half of his body. The people of his world, holding life sacred, rebuilt him using robotic parts. This boosted his intelligence dramatically, but left his evil tendencies unchecked. In his early appearances he wore clothing that only covered the organic half of his body.
What do you think, you want to make one of those?

Evil Twin of Eileen |

Valegrim |

Oh my word; hmm; feel kinda funny; hmm; kinda hungry; hmm; kinda <leers at EileenprohetofIstus> kinda ravenous; hmm; oh my; what is that; a new muscle?
Oh; my; EvilEileen, uhm; perhaps you could come down this dark alley over here <snap> and help me; uhm; set my watch <snap; a really nice Rolex (like the one I am getting for XMas) appears; got this <snap> matching feminine one I just dont know what to do with; and yes <snap> those are real diamonds; yes <snap> the face is Mother of Pearl, and Snap; yes that is 18 carat gold; because 24 is too....soft.
hehe still think wishing the Efreeti has glands is a good idea?
Valegrim wrote:mortals playing gland games is confusing to us immortal, firey beings of wishful delights.
uhm; any have a wish they want twisted for the holiday? I am Super at that and my deed are LEGION! hahahahahah
Why is it confusing? Do you immortals not have glands all in the right places?
Ok, my wish is for immortals to suddenly have glands in the right places. Now what are you going to do with your new and sudden Ahem...urges?

Valegrim |

Oh beautimous maiden; I know what girls are made of, why dont you come over, late at night; and find out what kind fo fire an efreeti is made of; you'll sing a new song for sure; need better than a knife to cut flame of....
wow; I feel weird; little glands all over me body are pumping out stuff like made; whew; what is that...sweat? I dont sweat; what the heck; dabnation; I am filled with watery glands; some Marid must be playing a joke; I am steamed; uhm; literally.
What would my mother say; if my sister sees me all sweaty and glistening like this I will never live it down in a thousand years.
Heathansson wrote:I wanna wait a couple days.
** spoiler omitted **
I admire a greedy wolf. I shall make the proper preparations. I haven't been good all year so I know I won't be getting anything anyway. Perhaps we could lay a trap for Santa Clause. As soon as he gives you the gifts, we nab him to. I think we could merge the Ereeti's body into Santa Clause rather easily, after all they are already both red.
Now, when we disect the Efreeti, do we use a #1 scalpel or a #2 scalpel? Should we put him under first or not?
NOT!

Evil Twin of Eileen |

Oh my word; hmm; feel kinda funny; hmm; kinda hungry; hmm; kinda <leers at EileenprohetofIstus> kinda ravenous; hmm; oh my; what is that; a new muscle?
Oh; my; EvilEileen, uhm; perhaps you could come down this dark alley over here <snap> and help me; uhm; set my watch <snap; a really nice Rolex (like the one I am getting for XMas) appears; got this <snap> matching feminine one I just dont know what to do with; and yes <snap> those are real diamonds; yes <snap> the face is Mother of Pearl, and Snap; yes that is 18 carat gold; because 24 is too....soft.
hehe still think wishing the Efreeti has glands is a good idea?
Of coarse, now that you got glands, I can exploit your weaknessses and then dump you whenever I feel like it in order to inflict the absolute greatest amount of emotional pain possible. (Insert evil laugh)!
By the way what's with the snap...I don't get it. Are you snapping your fingers?

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that is a great question, coolness
Crimson Jester wrote:Is there any place to get a list of the alternate names for the Legion EG Live Wire for Lightning Lad?
Well here is the reason why I am asking. I have been running a Champions game on and off for a few years where most of the Hero's are no longer active. They were killed blackmailed or driven off. I have it based loosely on The DC universe but are using the alternate names of the Hero's or well as close as I can come to it anyway. Nightwing not Batman, Power Girl not Superman, Sentinel not Green Lantern, Impulse not the Flash ect.. and as such I was thinking of doing a "Legionaries coming from the future to fight a villain in the past." story line. There are no real Heroes running around right now save the PC's and a couple of "retired" Heroes and it would be a great change in how the "public" will respond if a big fight breaks out in the downtown area.
And though I hate some of the names I was planning on having at least Livewire show up and maybe even Spark.

Valegrim |

Oh; feelings; you mean like emotions; oh; I got none of those; no worries; us immortals are to long lived to worry about such petty things; and the snap; that is just the displacement of air as things appear.
Valegrim wrote:Oh my word; hmm; feel kinda funny; hmm; kinda hungry; hmm; kinda <leers at EileenprohetofIstus> kinda ravenous; hmm; oh my; what is that; a new muscle?
Oh; my; EvilEileen, uhm; perhaps you could come down this dark alley over here <snap> and help me; uhm; set my watch <snap; a really nice Rolex (like the one I am getting for XMas) appears; got this <snap> matching feminine one I just dont know what to do with; and yes <snap> those are real diamonds; yes <snap> the face is Mother of Pearl, and Snap; yes that is 18 carat gold; because 24 is too....soft.
hehe still think wishing the Efreeti has glands is a good idea?
Of coarse, now that you got glands, I can exploit your weaknessses and then dump you whenever I feel like it in order to inflict the absolute greatest amount of emotional pain possible. (Insert evil laugh)!
By the way what's with the snap...I don't get it. Are you snapping your fingers?

Valegrim |

Well, me for one; a Efreeti should be at the core of every group :)
Dogbreath Heathy should be in it to; everyone needs a good scout with a sensitive nose who can use his foot to scratch his ear; and the Prophetess Twins; kinda like the wonder twins; every group needs a set of twins :)and round it out with the like of the dark snake god Set; and you gots yourself a real core of ;hmm, probably not justice; but something fun.
and a question while I am at it, who would you consider to be the "core" group? I mean if you had to have chosen just a handful of characters to list who would they be and why?

EileenProphetofIstus |

and a question while I am at it, who would you consider to be the "core" group? I mean if you had to have chosen just a handful of characters to list who would they be and why?
Now when you ask about the core Legion group are you talking about any of the Legion series (such as perhaps the original) or do you want to stick with hearing about the Legion where the codenames were changed? I can help you out with the former as well as the current rendition but my knowledge is limted on the first re-boot which is what you've referred to thus far. Not sure how open you are on the issue.

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Crimson Jester wrote:and a question while I am at it, who would you consider to be the "core" group? I mean if you had to have chosen just a handful of characters to list who would they be and why?Now when you ask about the core Legion group are you talking about any of the Legion series (such as perhaps the original) or do you want to stick with hearing about the Legion where the codenames were changed? I can help you out with the former as well as the current rendition but my knowledge is limted on the first re-boot which is what you've referred to thus far. Not sure how open you are on the issue.
Well honestly all of the above. Who would you consider the tried and true core of the group. Say if you could pick just five. And no Heathy and Valgrim nor Set count. though I have always been partial to twins myself

EileenProphetofIstus |

The first three must be the founders, which were Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad. These are your first three which are a must. They will give you good power diversity as well as being the absolute best representation of the Legion itself.
After that....Brainac 5 has always been very popular but I don't think he will translate well when it comes to battle, so despite his popularity, I'd eliminate him.
Phantom Girl was the 5th member to join and my personal favorite. She's always maintained a strong and steady presence in the Legion.
For your 5th character, I'd select Chameleon Boy. He should be a lot of fun to use and very versatile, not to mention give an alien presence to your small group which helps translate into "This is the future, things are different here."
So I would go...
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Lightning Lad
Phantom Girl
Chameleon Boy

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Well, me for one; a Efreeti should be at the core of every group :)
Dogbreath Heathy should be in it to; everyone needs a good scout with a sensitive nose who can use his foot to scratch his ear; and the Prophetess Twins; kinda like the wonder twins; every group needs a set of twins :)and round it out with the like of the dark snake god Set; and you gots yourself a real core of ;hmm, probably not justice; but something fun.
Valegrim's Legion;
Genie Lad - a large red-skinned dude with some superstrength, able to fly around as a pillar of smoke and able to generate smoke and flames. Spends a lot of time posturing, so it's not clear exactly how effective said smoke and flames really are, or if they are all illusions...
Wolf Boy - a really sarcastic werewolf (who claims to be a warwoof) who may or may not have super-senses (he sure does complain about how everyone else smells) and, despite his attitude, doesn't like to be called 'scrappy.'
Prophet Lass (and her 'misunderstood, but not really evil' twin, Miss Fortune) - able to predict the future and bring about good fortune (and able to predict and cause bad things to happen, respectively), when they work together, empowering their allies and hindering their foes, they are a force to be reckoned with. Usually they just cancel each other out, 'though.
Snake Lad - able to turn into a snake and slither away, although he claims to have vast powers, after the battle is safely over and he has mysteriously reappeared.

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and a question while I am at it, who would you consider to be the "core" group? I mean if you had to have chosen just a handful of characters to list who would they be and why?
The 'big five' (based on popularity and name recognition) seem to be;
Lightning Lad
Saturn Girl
Cosmic Boy
Brainiac Five
Superboy
Any version of the Legion that doesn't have these five seems to be doomed. Chameleon Boy might count as a sixth...
It would sure be interesting to see a team consisting of people who don't get quite as much front-time, because of those five.
A series of adventures based almost entirely on;
Element Lad
Colossal Boy
Phantom Girl
Shadow Lass
Triplicate Girl
could be interesting, particularly if one of the femmes took on the leader role, particularly Phantom Girl or Trips. Swapping out Lightning Lass for Shadow Lass would also give the team some ranged firepower, which it lacks (unless using a version of Shadow Lass that has darkforce manipulation powers, which she's been given in books like Superboy's Legion, and hinted at having in the Threeboot, where she was drawn blocking one of Sun Boy's blasts during an inter-team squabble, and shown knocking some goon flying with a blast of darkness to the gut during a battle with some of Praetor Lemnos' forces).

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Ok here are the ones I will use:
Polestar AKA Cosmicboy
Dreamer AKA well this will be a cross between Saturn girl and Dream Girl
Livewire AKA Lightning Lad
Apparition AKA Phantom Girl
Chameleon AKA Chameleon Boy
I would use a couple of others but I want to keep it to a minimum and some wont work for what I am planning or how i have the world made. No Superboy ect... in this world.
Who should or would be a good classic villain to use?
Edit: I am going to have either Dreamer of Apparition as the leader, I am thinking Apparition at this time. I am also thinking of using a time bubble but I might make it closer to the terminator time shift bubble that only lets flash come through, except for Chameleon who will be able to store some equipment in his "stomach" for later retrieval.

EileenProphetofIstus |

A good classic villain implies one individual. Me, personally, I'm a huge fan of the Fatal Five. They are a good mixture of people who formed one group. Validus and Emerald Empress might need to be scaled down in power for your game though, but that's easy enough to do.
Another group you could hand pick is the Legion of Super villains. Some are matches to Legionnaires in power while others have unique powers. You could pick the ones that work best.
As for any single villain....
Computo
Soljer from Superboy starring the Legion of Super-Heroes issue #210 opens up excellent possibilites. If your adventure is taking place in the 21st century, he and his comrades could have easily travelled to the 21st century and attacked Metropolis (or whatever city of importance you use) and as a result, changed the time stream. The Legion realizes the differance and goes back to correct it. After that, simply read the story and you could easily use it as the basic plot. Time Trapper could ultimately be behind Soljer's army having invaded.
I like Pulsar Stargrave and his lackeys, Quicksand and Holdur. Stargrave is really powerful so you'd have to work with it though. Perhaps come up with a reason why he's weakened and what he's up to is restoring his full powers, thus he must be stopped before he becomes too powerful.
I like Grimbor the Chainsman and his lover Charma.
Prince Evillo was a Legion villain.

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Who should or would be a good classic villain to use?
The best way to use the Fatal Five would be to introduce them as individual powerful threats, able to challenge the entire team, so that, later down the road, when all of them join together, it's bed-wettingly terrifying.
Validus, by himself, is a fine individual threat, if a mindless rampaging Godzilla sort of threat. For a deeper level of intrigue, after defeating him, the heroes might discover that he was guarding an underground chamber, in which a dozen other immature Validus creatures cloned from him (or that he was simply one of) are resting in growth tanks. Who is making an army of Validus? How did this one escape? Did someone help the heroes behind the scenes to find these other clones before they were grown to maturity?
The Emerald Empress was also (in)famous for having used her power to seize control of the world of Venegar and have herself declared it's ruler, until she was overthrown, presumably by the Legion or some other heroes. Having the Empress, with some quasi-loyal 'royal guards' outfitted with local armor and weapons as minions, serve as the Big Bad could work.
Persuader had a criminal organization, that he seized control of through the simple expediment of decapitating his rivals. (As an adversary, he can be problematic since he is supposed to be able to kill anything his axe hits. Heroes based around invulnerability, armor or force fields are going to have to be warned up front that he can cut through *anything,* so that they don't stand there and try to block a hit from his axe. Have him 'show off' by cutting through something 'uncuttable,' like a force field thrown up by an NPC police officer or something to buy time for the other NPCs to clear out during the big fight scene.)
Tharok goes one step further as a Big Bad, in that he's created his own villain teams on occasion (the League of Super-Assassins, for example), and clones himself to engage in multiple plots at a time, making him a sort of 31st century R'as al-Ghul, who rears up time and again after being defeated or 'killed.' He can be behind all sorts of seemingly unrelated stuff, and could be behind the 'who is cloning an army of Validus' plot, for instance.
Mano is another troublesome one from a game standpoint, since he *also* can kill anyone he lays a hand on, and, again, some sort of warning might be nice for the player characters (unlike the Persuader, his touch doesn't *have* to be lethal, he can also cause it to just be radioactive or explosive or horribly damaging, if he's not in the mood to just disintegrate someone outright). He destroyed his own home-world by setting off a chain-reaction with the destructive power of his hand (and somehow survived that), so the first appearance of him as a character would probably be floating in space, awaiting 'rescue' from a strange asteroid belt (that used to be his homeworld). He'll 'reward' his rescuers by burning a hole in the side of their ship, causing them to suffocate, and flying himself somewhere to cause yet more trouble...

Valegrim |

Ouch; been double eliminated!
The first three must be the founders, which were Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad. These are your first three which are a must. They will give you good power diversity as well as being the absolute best representation of the Legion itself.
After that....Brainac 5 has always been very popular but I don't think he will translate well when it comes to battle, so despite his popularity, I'd eliminate him.
Phantom Girl was the 5th member to join and my personal favorite. She's always maintained a strong and steady presence in the Legion.
For your 5th character, I'd select Chameleon Boy. He should be a lot of fun to use and very versatile, not to mention give an alien presence to your small group which helps translate into "This is the future, things are different here."
So I would go...
Cosmic Boy
Saturn Girl
Lightning Lad
Phantom Girl
Chameleon Boy

Valegrim |

WOOT! we rock; we roll; we should be a super group rockband like KISS hehe cause we not only are the greatest superteam; we look look so very good!
Valegrim wrote:Well, me for one; a Efreeti should be at the core of every group :)
Dogbreath Heathy should be in it to; everyone needs a good scout with a sensitive nose who can use his foot to scratch his ear; and the Prophetess Twins; kinda like the wonder twins; every group needs a set of twins :)and round it out with the like of the dark snake god Set; and you gots yourself a real core of ;hmm, probably not justice; but something fun.Valegrim's Legion;
Genie Lad - a large red-skinned dude with some superstrength, able to fly around as a pillar of smoke and able to generate smoke and flames. Spends a lot of time posturing, so it's not clear exactly how effective said smoke and flames really are, or if they are all illusions...
Wolf Boy - a really sarcastic werewolf (who claims to be a warwoof) who may or may not have super-senses (he sure does complain about how everyone else smells) and, despite his attitude, doesn't like to be called 'scrappy.'
Prophet Lass (and her 'misunderstood, but not really evil' twin, Miss Fortune) - able to predict the future and bring about good fortune (and able to predict and cause bad things to happen, respectively), when they work together, empowering their allies and hindering their foes, they are a force to be reckoned with. Usually they just cancel each other out, 'though.
Snake Lad - able to turn into a snake and slither away, although he claims to have vast powers, after the battle is safely over and he has mysteriously reappeared.

Evil Twin of Eileen |

well; the best evil has a sense of humor; answer the questions on Erik the clerics chrismas quiz; that is worth some evil mastermind points in my book.
Its in the Gamer Life section; my brain still hurts.
I looked at that a couple of days ago. I didn't actually keep score though. Were the answers posted anywhere or did Heathy steal them?

Evil Twin of Eileen |

Luscious evil twin girl; the answers well be posted later in the week; I had lots of blonde moments and some ice elemental was giving me brain freeze so my answers are mostly funny rather than factual.
"I had lots of blonde moments"
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR THAT I SHALL TAKE YOUR DNA AND COMBINE IT WITH BOTH FREEHOLD DM AND THE WARWOOF GUY. The result will be a furry magic man who thinks he's Green Lantern but still hasn't started up on the Super-Heroes thread, thus you've been banned.
Now without your disgusting and gagging super-heroic exploites, the world shall be mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!