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There won't be another cleric - they've made it clear that the iconics will be the core character classes.
Which will make one of the parties pretty interesting, since they'll be lacking cleric or druid.
So, the remaining classes are:
Barbarian
Monk
Ranger
Paladin
Druid
Wizard
Bard
Er. Hrm. Either I'm missing a base class, or there's only 11. Which means that there might be a reuse of an already intro'd iconic.
...That, or McArtor will sneak Ninjas in under James' nose.
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There are indeed only 11 base classes. The 12th will either be a repeat, or it'll be an iconic prestige class, or it'll maybe be something new, depending on how 4th edition is interacting with everything.
We're not quite ready to reveal the order in which the remaining 7 will be presented on Pathfinder's covers, in any case.
And that said... Mike won't have to work hard about sneaking in ninjas. I'm very ninja-friendly...
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There are indeed only 11 base classes. The 12th will either be a repeat, or it'll be an iconic prestige class, or it'll maybe be something new, depending on how 4th edition is interacting with everything.
We're not quite ready to reveal the order in which the remaining 7 will be presented on Pathfinder's covers, in any case.
And that said... Mike won't have to work hard about sneaking in ninjas. I'm very ninja-friendly...
Yes, but what about a gninja? :)
Yes, but what about a gninja? :)
Did somebody say gninja?
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My recommendations are aligned with Blue's. Perhaps, if you don't make the change to 4e, the fourth iconic will be some sort of PC aligned with the Pathfinders...
And on that note, a sort of "Journey to the West" AP, where you take the opportunity to give little snippets into the other parts of the world, would be pretty cool as a Journey styled AP.
I predict a merman bard who has to be carted around in a ricksaw.
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In my guessing, I was actually thinking more about who the initial four pregens would be, rather than the order of the art appearances. As for what should be iconic #12, I'm partial to a psion(seer).
AP3 with Druid, Barbarian, Ranger, and someoone else would be cool. In that case, I'd probably suggest a nomad or telpath, given their skill lists.
My votes
Gay-Male Half Elf Druid (this is just one I'd really like to see, I don't care about every iconic's sexual preference)Female Human Wizard
Female Human Paladin
Male Half Orc Monk
Just out of interest, why in particular do you want to see a gay Druid, as opposed to a gay anything else?
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Just out of interest, why in particular do you want to see a gay Druid, as opposed to a gay anything else?
I'm not sure, but Bard/Paladin/Barbarian/Ranger seem too cliche. Sorceror, Cleric already have iconics. Druid seems like a good fit to me, a half elf torn between not just two racial worlds, but sexual preference, finding peace in nature. Seems like a nice backstory
Good idea.
Perhaps the Vanishing curse of Jzadirune has spread way beyond the Cauldron region?
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You should make one of the iconics a gnome so he or she can disappear in May.
Hope this isn't too much of a thread jack but, have we gotten official confirmation that Gnomes will not be in the 4E Players Handbook? I know there is plenty of speculation, and I admit the conspicuous lack of Gnome info in the various Wizards blogs would seem to support it. I was just wondering if anyone on the design team has actually said the words ...
Back on topic - I think a cool prestige class or Psionic iconic (say that out loud five times fast!) would be very cool!
Gnomes will remain a core player race in our campaign setting, in any event. So our upcoming gnome iconic will be here to stay.
::Applauds::
I realize I'm postulating a lot of "IF's" . . . But, from what I remember it was said that you guys are planning on 11 iconics. So, if there is a new core race and class in 4e, and if you guys plan on having any type of support for 4e . . .
Is there any possibility that you guys would consider adding a 12th iconic?
Now keep in mind, if your only answer right now is "To early to tell." I'm quite alright with that. I'm just throwing out ideas that pop into my head.
Gnomes will remain a core player race in our campaign setting, in any event. So our upcoming gnome iconic will be here to stay.Yay! ^_^
*considers briefly hugging James*
*reconsiders*
oh come on mike it's not like he said that the gnome iconic will be a ninja . . .
Dang it, I shouldn't have said that.
The iconic gnome will indeed be a gninja.
<will do anything for hugs>
*totally Sneak-Attack Glomps James*
Hooray!
At some point, somewhere, in at least a single illustration, we have to see this.
I doubt we will.
Gnomes in general should never be seen or heard. Gninjas are the only gnomes that successfully accomplish this.
Gnomes will remain a core player race in our campaign setting, in any event. So our upcoming gnome iconic will be here to stay.
Hooray for Gnomes! Hooray for Pathfinder!
The iconic gnome will indeed be a gninja.
<will do anything for hugs>
Hooray for Gninja!
<sends James an eHug>
A gninja, weilding gnunchaku, sneaking through the gnight.
Hooray for silent g spelling! One of the most potent weapons known to gnomekind!
Can you call the iconic gnome gninja Sai Lenn Gee?
Oh, since you were, originally, somewhere in this thread, talking about the iconics:
I do think that the 12th could be some psionic iconic. Psiconic?
He/she could be an iconic Minkai expatriate. Maybe Minkai isn't too keen on magic, it being only used by blood witches in their foul blood magic. Instead, they channel the power of the mind, with ki and psionics. A psychic warrior with the traditional weapons of Minkai noble warrior (doesn't have to be the katana/wakizashi combination, either)
The 12th iconic will not be psionic.
Not sure how/whether to incorporate psinics into Pathfinder yet?
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Not sure how/whether to incorporate psinics into Pathfinder yet?
We do know. It's going to be extremely limited. Which is to say, feel free to include as much or as little psionics as you want into your campaigns, but don't hold your breath on seeing us publish anything on it. At least not until we see 4e's psionics.
The iconic gnome will indeed be a gninja.
<will do anything for hugs>
Ponytails?
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Ponytails?
^_^
I ordered a gnome wizard for Korvosa (alas, no good-guy ninja in that city)... with pigtails, of course... (female, of course). We'll see what comes out, but I know who Sarah assigned as the artist and he's one of my favorites and always takes my art orders and gives me even more than I had hoped...
SWEET! Um...quite literally.
A pigtailed Gnomish Girl dual-wielding Pixy Stix? Just have her be flanked by a Rogue/Savant with a Dimunitive Heavy Pick and you have...
The Dastardly Dentistry Duo!
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SWEET! Um...quite literally.
A pigtailed Gnomish Girl dual-wielding Pixy Stix? Just have her be flanked by a Rogue/Savant with a Dimunitive Heavy Pick and you have...
The Dastardly Dentistry Duo!
"We mend holes in teeth! We mend holes in teeth!"
WOW Hug Fest! Let me get some! LOL
You asked for it!
*hug*
If anyone uses the term man crush in this or similar threads I will hurl. ;>)
I'll go back to writing about this iconic.Indeed, I can't wait till it's posted! And I'll commence wiping my computer screen, you scoundrel!
At the age of 42, Ezren is full aware that he's missed his adulthood, yet at the same time he looks forward to discovering the world, and making a difference for a cause that he believes in.
So...
What's with Ezren the iconic who is forty-two and looks frickin' ancient!? I mean, forty-two isn't that old.
*shifty look*
What? Who's defensive?
Like I said somewhere else, read correctly and you'll see he's at least a decade older than 42. Might make you feel better to know that... ;)
I wondered that, but the present tense (the bit I quoted) made me think that all that stuff had happened before now.
Well, I'm still thirty-nine. Who knows; maybe I'll age radically in the next three years. (Or maybe I look a lot older than I think I do.)
Ah yes, another silly part of the rules (to the point of being broken):
Not only does every person of the same race and encumberance (and class) move at exactly the same speed, but every member of the same race suffers the effects of age at exactly the same time. And the effects are identical from person to person. And while age can be physically debilitating, it Universally makes you smarter, wiser, and better looking.
Um, yeah.
It's a quick and dirty method (that doesn't pretend to be anything else) to simulate aging. After a certain point, your body starts to break down. Also, life experience tends to result in wider knowledge, better decision making, and more forceful personality (or at least a better understanding of how to use what one has).
Charisma does not equate to purely physical attractiveness.
I suppose you could adjust the effective age for applying the physical penalties at each category by the character's Con modifier, if you wanted. Or you could come up with your own aging mechanic (like Ars Magica).
What's with Ezren the iconic who is forty-two and looks frickin' ancient!? I mean, forty-two isn't that old.
People can live to be 42 in the real world? I thought that was only possible in fantasy with magic!
;P
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Charisma does not equate to purely physical attractiveness.
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Seoni could have fooled me. But I realize that's just to help sell product at FLGS.
Given what has now been said about the next two APs, I remain of the belief that CotCT's iconics will be: Wizard, Bard, Paladin and Monk. The first two because they work great in urban campaigns, and the last two because they're naturals in Lawful places. Also, Divine Health and Purity of Body in a campaign about plagues FTW. For a similar reason, the druid and barbarian, and to a lesser extent, the ranger, are unlikely. As for guesses on races, I'd say a chance of half-elf or halfling for the bard, a chance of halfling for the monk, with a human paladin and Ezren as the wizard.
Also, the material on Second Darkness convinces me that the Ranger would logically go in that AP; since it has the drow as a major enemy, the ranger gets to use the favored enemy bonus for more than just combat! This fact will make both veterans and newbies happy. So the iconics in the third AP will be Ranger (the sneak, perhaps another elf, more likely a half-elf that favors the human half), the Barbarian (as tank, perhaps a half-orc), a Gnome Druid (Gnomes are close to the fey in Golarian), and a dwarf diviner/loremaster to round out the dozen. After all, someone has to be able to discover the First Darkness, and long-lived subteranean races are logical.
