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OK, everyone.
If you like maps and were as upset as I when the Eberron Campaign Setting came with no map folded and sewn into the binding, here's your opportunity to tell Paizo how far you're willing to go to get--
---A professionally printed map of the world
---Printed Large scale
---Printed on heavy, quality paper
and since we're likely to need to pay for it as an accessory, and it probably won't be cheap, let's go all out and make it--
---Full color
---One-sheet (mailed in a mailing tube)
---Designed to fit together with future maps as the World expands (I'd devote a whole wall to a SuperMap!)
If you have other suggestions, here's a chance to get vocal!
Yes to all o' that. Will pay money separately from the AP for a good map. Maps tie the world together, both literally and figuratively.
I can see two options that would agree with me:
(1) Your single sheet high quality "delivered in a tube" option.
(2) A hi-res version that can be downloaded from Paizo.com and taken to Kinkos where I can pay to have it printed myself.
Either one works.
I wish to purchase a map of Varisia, as well as any other regional maps for the Pathfinder setting. I've mentioned it before, so by posting here I am saying this EMPHATICALLY.
I would like it just as Andrew has requested.
Depending on size, I am willing to pay between 12 and 20 dollars, which seems to being the range of going rates for heavy bond prints on most poster sites.
While I would certainly buy a printed map of Varisia, a downloadable high-resolution PDF of the map that I could zoom into and print selected portions of would actually be more useful to me. Just a suggestion :)
How about the printed map of Varisia come like the Flip-Mats on a 24 x 30 unfolded and a 8x10 folded. Make it on the same durable, laminated card stock so that we can write on it. Is it do-able?
Actually, I'd prefer a map a little higher quality than the one on the Blog page. With Microsoft's "Paint" program, I can blow it up to any size I want, print it to a PDF, and print it out at my leasure (in black and white on my laser).
From what I've read, they're still working on the map, so it might be a while before we get a full size. With the above option, they can update as needed and I can just print out the needed sections (or new area).
But don't get me wrong, I'd love a 4 part poster map!
Just my two coppers.
My reason for suggesting a download is that Paizo could update / edit at their leisure and not have to worry about getting the new one to customers.
I suggest a two-part approach.
(1) Sell a version of the map through the store. Update the map every so often, perhaps every year or two. People who want this updated version will have to purchase a new one, but at least they have the means for acquiring a new one, should they so choose.
(2) Place a hi-res version on the website that is updated more often, perhaps every three - six months. Those who use this version could print out their own copies. You could make this service available for free to those who purchase a map under the first option, and charge a small fee to everyone else. I suggest charging, because it motivates Paizo to keep it up-to-date. If they're giving it away, the reality is that it won't be as high a priority.
Of course, if Paizo had a setting wiki service, which people paid to access, this second option could fall under that service.
I would be interested in a plain map as well. Perhaps as handout and to put in my German translations. :)
I'd pay for a nice map, and probably do so for each new adventure path, especially if they all look as good as Varisia.
I'm going to buyck the trend and say no to a map of varisia such as you all are suggesting. I'd rather wait for a map of the entire world that varisia is in . . . yes, I'm willing to wait.
I feel really stupid right now. I failed to realize we were only talking about a map of Varisia. William's post smacked me across the face a bit...
My suggestions would still apply to a map of Varisia, but I don't think there would be as many people willing to buy a regional map. If I were Paizo, I might make one for RotRL and leave it at that... with not later updates.
Path II, which is also set in Varisia, would have a map of its own. I suppose one could consider such a map an "update."
Doesn't matter, though, as the talk is about who would buy what, right? If I had to choose between a regional map of Varisia and a world map, I'd go with the latter. I don't think one will be completed in the next couple years, though... so I'd be willing to throw a couple yen at a Varisian one.
Since I don't want to have to wait too long for a world map--after all, they're still developing the world I believe--I'd be happy to buy separate maps of Varisia. Since the 1st 2 AP's are set there, that's a year's worth of goodness waiting to be displayed front and center.
As for the formatting...I'm not picky. Anything from the folded-in-four and fits-in-the-book map (like the Greyhawk map from the LG Gazetteer) to a higher-end, shipped separately in a tube roll-up map.
Might as well satisfy everyone (well, nearly) and have pdf versions as well.
And Paizo, that's one sweet map you got there! Kudos to the designer.
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If you read the opening post, you'll notice the request is for a large map of Varisia (the Known World, at least for the first six books of the AP) which is--
---Designed to fit together with future maps as the World expands
I would love to have a World Map, too, but I don't want to wait three years and six APs later to get one...
While we're wishing, let's have it a free bonus to Charter Subscribers!
And I want a pony.
Ahem, no, I'll pay for it if needs be.
Yup, a godd sized map would be nice, preferably for free for subscribers.
I like all of what Andrew Turner suggested in the opening post of this topic. It sounds like a great idea, and I would pay for this if the price is reasonable.
Also, having a high resolution PDF that the DM can use to print out parts of for her/his campaign would be good as well. Again, if the price is reasonable I would purchase this as well.
If I could only get one version, I would go for the nice printed map. I suspect that the JPG map that is available on the website will do in a pinch for an electronic version.
To the Paizo folks, thanks for putting up the JPG map on the blog - very nice map, and looking at the cartography and the various place names makes me wonder about what could be there. For me, this is reminicent of the Judges Guild / Wilderlands map.
I would really like a large vinyl map! I also like the idea of flip maps that cover specific sections that the adventures take place in.
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I would really like a large vinyl map! I also like the idea of flip maps that cover specific sections that the adventures take place in.
I like the flip map idea, too. I just picked up one at my FLGS today; they're great!
Vinyl would be nice, too. Right now, I post my maps military-style, bolted up behind a sheet of plexiglass. I go through quite a few Staedtler Lumocolor markers...
I'd have to sign on to this idea as well. If I'm going to "cash in" for the Rise of the Runelord adventure path...and presumably for many more APs down the road...then my gaming group could certainly benefit from having a large map of Varisia and the remaining game world overall.
If you can make it a roll-up vinyl map with grid-squares on one side (or maybe half-grid and half-hex) and the geographical map on the other, that's all the more reason to buy it...
Just my two-cents,
--Neil
I'll definitely buy any maps you produce for Pathfinder. The more maps the better.
I want a map. I'll pay.
~Qualidar~
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I want a globe. Actually, I want globe shaped like abig d20 that I can assmeble myself out of laminated cardstock. Especially if it's easy to disasemble for storage and reassemble for use. Or for that matter to lay flat and use like a traditional map.
I'd pay for that, oh yes.
You're joking, but my first roommate in college had a desk globe of Abeir-Toril...honestly, it was awesome. Relief mountains, ocean trenches, the works.
I want a globe. Actually, I want globe shaped like abig d20 that I can assmeble myself out of laminated cardstock. Especially if it's easy to disasemble for storage and reassemble for use. Or for that matter to lay flat and use like a traditional map.
I'd pay for that, oh yes.
Now I've been thinking of making an Oerik globe for a long time, but it seems to me that it is prohibitively expensive unless shitloads of people are buying them, and Greyhawk fans probably don't qualify as shitloads in the market economy.
The same goes for Pathfinder fans.
Nevertheless, a globe would rock the stink. I'd be so happy I'd leave skidmarks in my drawers.
Dreamin'
ALternatively, a map that compensates for curvature of the planet would at least look believable... Like an Eckert IV equal area projection... Lala.
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I want a globe. Actually, I want globe shaped like abig d20 that I can assmeble myself out of laminated cardstock. Especially if it's easy to disasemble for storage and reassemble for use. Or for that matter to lay flat and use like a traditional map.
I'd pay for that, oh yes.
Now I've been thinking of making an Oerik globe for a long time, but it seems to me that it is prohibitively expensive unless s@#%loads of people are buying them, and Greyhawk fans probably don't qualify as s@#%loads in the market economy.
The same goes for Pathfinder fans.
Nevertheless, a globe would rock the stink. I'd be so happy I'd leave skidmarks in my drawers.
Dreamin'
ALternatively, a map that compensates for curvature of the planet would at least look believable... Like an Eckert IV equal area projection... Lala.
My roommate made that globe himself, and I forgot to mention, it lit up. It was seriously very professional, store-bought-looking, not some geeky, no-talent fanboy weekend project. But this guy, cool on the surface, football player, typical West Point cadet, but he knew everything there was to know about FR; and he was a walking 1 & 2E rulebook. He's a major in the Army now, flies Chinooks.
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You're joking, but my first roommate in college had a desk globe of Abeir-Toril...honestly, it was awesome. Relief mountains, ocean trenches, the works.I want a globe. Actually, I want globe shaped like abig d20 that I can assmeble myself out of laminated cardstock. Especially if it's easy to disasemble for storage and reassemble for use. Or for that matter to lay flat and use like a traditional map.
I'd pay for that, oh yes.
Just to clarify, I'm not joking in the least.
Your friend's globe sounds cool, but I would actually get more utility out of one that I could fold flat.
A map projected onto an icosahedron has less distortion than most flat maps.
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Okay, so I'm thinking that what I need as far as the mapping of this new world (they haven't released the name of the planet that Varisia is in yet, have they?) is a large poster sized map of the world . . . and a polyhedral globe of said world, with a companion atlas that would take each side of the globe and provide further detail.
Yeah . . . that'll be good.
Oh, wait . . . after I have all that, I'll need a second globe/atlas combo. The second one would be a map of the underdark . . . speaking of which do we get to see a map of the underdark of Varisia?
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...If I had to choose between a regional map of Varisia and a world map, I'd go with the latter. I don't think one will be completed in the next couple years, though... so I'd be willing to throw a couple yen at a Varisian one.
I am of the "Very-high-quality-framing-worthy-world-atlas" camp, so I suppose I'll have to wait. For actual playing, whatever gets folded into the pathfinder products is fine by me. I'd actually prefer the world atlas to be fairly vague in terms of a political map and be better in terms of geography (the biggest cities listed, large well-known regions labeled like 'Varisia', etc.
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Okay, so I'm thinking that what I need as far as the mapping of this new world (they haven't released the name of the planet that Varisia is in yet, have they?) <snip>
According to yesterday's blog, the new world is called "Zogonia."
I'm more excited than ever!
;-)
(Yes, this time, I am joking)
I'd vote for the hi-res downloadable version. Low cost and effort for the Paizo staff (they're doing a lot of work already), but still available for those of us who love maps. I've done several print out bunches of 8.5 x 11 sheets, cut and tape together to get a big map, and wouldn't have a problem doing it again, but I want a crisp and clear map when I blow it up and pin it to my wall.
Maybe down the road after the world is filled out a little more, do a large, pre-printed poster version on card stock or vinyl. (And maybe introduce it at the one or two year anniversary and send it as a "thank you" gift to those of us who have been on the subscription plan since the Pathfinder series started and sell it to the rest. But that part might fall under the dream category. 8P )
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Now hold on a second! Are you trying to tell me that the world isn't flat? Next you'll be telling me that the Sun is a massive ball of fire and not the chariot of a god ... phff!Of course the world is flat! But if you fold it carefully, you can make it into an Icosahedron.
Ah ... Perhaps the great God Origami was able to manage such a feat!
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Okay, so I'm thinking that what I need as far as the mapping of this new world (they haven't released the name of the planet that Varisia is in yet, have they?) is a large poster sized map of the world . . . and a polyhedral globe of said world, with a companion atlas that would take each side of the globe and provide further detail.
Yeah . . . that'll be good.
Oh, wait . . . after I have all that, I'll need a second globe/atlas combo. The second one would be a map of the underdark . . . speaking of which do we get to see a map of the underdark of Varisia?
I just emailed my old roommate--he is constructing a new Abeir-Toril globe that will open at the meridian...to reveal the Underdark, complete with LEDs marking the major cities...
I'd pay for a poster-sized map of each region too.
A high-resolution .pdf file would be nice too, but preferably as an addition to the actual map... some of us don't have a Kinko's available anywhere on the continent!