Advanced Alchemy Level Question

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

I am playing a cleric character who took alchemical dedication at 5th level. We just advanced to 6th level, and I was putting my character into hero lab when I noticed that his advanced alchemy was listed as 2nd level. I am confused as to how this happened. Why isn’t it 1st level? Thoughts?

He did take alchemical crafting at 1st level and does have alcohol lore and crafting assurance. He is an expert at alcohol lore, medicine, nature, and perception but is only trained in crafting.

How can a multiplayer character have an advanced alchemy at 2nd level. I know hero lab is seldom wrong. What am I missing?

[shroudb]

herolab is wrong.

archetype advanced alchemy level doesn't increase on it's own. you need to pick up feats to raise it, and only after the 3rd feat (master alchemy) does it starts increasing on its own.

what does increase with level from the first feat and onwards is the amount of reagents per day.

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

shroudb wrote:

herolab is wrong.

archetype advanced alchemy level doesn't increase on it's own. you need to pick up feats to raise it, and only after the 3rd feat (master alchemy) does it starts increasing on its own.

what does increase with level from the first feat and onwards is the amount of reagents per day.

Thanks. I was just playing around with it and the level increase seems to be connected to alchemical crafting. When you already have the feat and then take alchemical dedication. It adds one to the level. I don’t think that is bad, but I can’t find anything in the rules on it.

[shroudb]

you can craft (the normal downtime activity) items up to your level.

so your alchemical crafting level is indeed 2.

but that's different than the advanced alchemy level which is the free items you can make from the dedication

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

shroudb wrote:

you can craft (the normal downtime activity) items up to your level.

so your alchemical crafting level is indeed 2.

but that's different than the advanced alchemy level which is the free items you can make from the dedication

Are you sure about that? Remember he took alchemical crafting at level 1, so the potions should be his cleric level right?

[shroudb]

Athris of the Nine Dragons wrote:

shroudb wrote:

you can craft (the normal downtime activity) items up to your level.

so your alchemical crafting level is indeed 2.

but that's different than the advanced alchemy level which is the free items you can make from the dedication

Are you sure about that? Remember he took alchemical crafting at level 1, so the potions should be his cleric level right?

i meant if you are level 2 character with alchemical crafting you can make up to level 2 items.

if you are level 5 you can make level 5 items and etc.

that's seperate from Advanced Alchemy which is the level of the items you can make with your reagents and doesnt automatically scale.

[Gisher]

At 6th level your character should have an advanced alchemy level of 1 and be able to use alchemical crafting to make 6th level items. My guess is that the software is confused because you effectively took alchemical crafting twice - once at 1st level and a second time through the alchemist dedication.

[Nefreet]

Athris of the Nine Dragons wrote:

I am playing a cleric character who took alchemical dedication at 5th level.

HeroLab also might be confused because a Cleric shouldn't be able to take a Dedication feat at 5th Level, since the Dedication feats replace your Class feats, and Clerics can only select Class feats at even levels.

Even the 5th level Human Ancestry feat that allows you to select a 1st level Class feat doesn't get past this, since "The archetype feat you select is still subject to any selection restrictions on the class feat it replaces."

[Cordell Kintner]

Gisher wrote:

At 6th level your character should have an advanced alchemy level of 1 and be able to use alchemical crafting to make 6th level items. My guess is that the software is confused because you effectively took alchemical crafting twice - once at 1st level and a second time through the alchemist dedication.

This is probably the culprit. If possible, you should retrain the feat you took at level 1. But it sounds like you got Alchemical Crafting from your background, which if true would mean you can't retrain it.

Nefreet wrote:

Athris of the Nine Dragons wrote:

I am playing a cleric character who took alchemical dedication at 5th level.

HeroLab also might be confused because a Cleric shouldn't be able to take a Dedication feat at 5th Level, since the Dedication feats replace your Class feats, and Clerics can only select Class feats at even levels.

Even the 5th level Human Ancestry feat that allows you to select a 1st level Class feat doesn't get past this, since "The archetype feat you select is still subject to any selection restrictions on the class feat it replaces."

This is a great point. OP you should talk with your GM about your build and try to get things straight before continuing to play. Sounds like you've made some mistakes.