Does anyone have any Eberron specific adventures they're waiting patiently to hear back on? I've got three that were submitted about a month ago:
"The Hidden Well of Cazhaak Draal"
"Song of the Red Raven"
"The Tome of Xoriat"
Just wondering what other competition is lurking out there in the tumbleweeds.
...Well, I'm still here and waiting! No word on my submission yet. I can wait...
My queries all missed the last meeting deadline, so I am waiting until the next go-around for any response.
Does anyone have any Eberron specific adventures they're waiting patiently to hear back on?
I have two (I think):
"The Purloined Corpse"
"Fallen Hero"
I think I have 2 for the Forgotten Realms, and then 4 that are "generic" setting adventures.
There seemed to be a (small) rush of people saying that they had gotten the greenlight and a few people chimed in with rejection sighs, but I know that I've still got seven proposals that I sent off before the latest meeting, and I haven't heard anything. Hopefully all seven weren't sucked into the black hole and Paizo actually got them. Being crushed up and spat out by the Gatekeeper is better than being lost in the black hole, if only by a little bit.
At least I'm appearing in a Goodman Games release later this month, so it ain't all bad ;)
Does anyone have any Eberron specific adventures they're waiting patiently to hear back on? I've got three that were submitted about a month ago:
"The Hidden Well of Cazhaak Draal"
"Song of the Red Raven"
"The Tome of Xoriat"Just wondering what other competition is lurking out there in the tumbleweeds.
I have one Eberron adventure that is in the manuscript stage, and a couple more that are awaiting their meeting with the Gatekeeper.
On a related note though, Nicolas Logue's "Chains of Blackmaw" is a good adventure, that albeit generic in setting, could easily be adapted to Eberron. Especially if you played "Chimes at Midnight" and placed any survivors from the rogue's gallery into the prison as well ;-)
At least I'm appearing in a Goodman Games release later this month, so it ain't all bad ;)
Hey Phil, I'm in there with you! Too cool. You going to GenCon?
Since I live in Australia going to GenCon is a major deal costing thousands of dollars and a lot of organization. Suffice to say, that I'll be trying to make it over to the US in about 2 years, so I can attend the event.
Have a great time anyhow :)
Since I live in Australia going to GenCon is a major deal costing thousands of dollars
heh---ummmm...whoops! Other than that, what's keeping you away? ;)
Since I live in Australia going to GenCon is a major deal costing thousands of dollarsheh---ummmm...whoops! Other than that, what's keeping you away? ;)
I wanna go to GenCon *sniff sniff*...it usually falls on my birthday, which I think would be a spectacular reason to go. (Not this year - it's a week earlier.)
I'm hoping to go to Gencon 2007. I'm already saving my pennies. I've never been to a real gaming convention.
At least I'm appearing in a Goodman Games release later this month, so it ain't all bad ;)Dude! How does one get some of that Goodman Games action? I like their products... It would be kewl to make a submission.
Goodman Games accepts submissions for their Campaign Classics series. Go to their website and you will find instructions for making the appropriate query.
- Ashavan
Hey, keep the Goodman Games talk for a seperate thread, we're talking about the Paizo black hole, not some other company. ;^)
I currently have two queries floating around the black hole. The first of those was sent in May 1st; the second was just sent about a minute ago. :D
I also have a handful of Campaign Workbooks in various stages that I'd like to get completed and tossed into the Black Hole sometime soon.
-- John
Does anyone have any Eberron specific adventures they're waiting patiently to hear back on?
I have a completed manuscript sitting on their desks for months now that I haven't heard back about. Speaking of which, maybe it's time for another prodding. :)
I currently have two queries floating around the black hole. The first of those was sent in May 1st; the second was just sent about a minute ago. :D
After a brief hiatus, I have yet another query marching towards the gate. Any idea how much of a backlog the gatekeeper currently faces?
I have a completed manuscript sitting on their desks for months now that I haven't heard back about. Speaking of which, maybe it's time for another prodding. :)
I've had a completed manuscript sitting on their desks since November 2004.
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I have a completed manuscript sitting on their desks for months now that I haven't heard back about. Speaking of which, maybe it's time for another prodding. :)I've had a completed manuscript sitting on their desks since November 2004.
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What is this manuscript? Drop me a line at dungeon@paizo.com and I'll see if I can figure out what happened.
That said; this afternoon we'll be doing a meeting to decide the fate of many manuscripts we've got in...
I've had a completed manuscript sitting on their desks since November 2004.!
What is this manuscript? Drop me a line at dungeon@paizo.com and I'll see if I can figure out what happened.
That said; this afternoon we'll be doing a meeting to decide the fate of many manuscripts we've got in...
Line dropped -- the manuscript is "Paragons of Virtue." I last spoke with you about it at Gen Con 2005. Thanks for the response!
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I'm hoping to go to Gencon 2007. I'm already saving my pennies. I've never been to a real gaming convention.
Saving pennies? I am saving more than that to see you there, F2K! I hope everything works out, and the were_cabbages will meet face to face there...
I have to check Google-Earth for how many miles it is from me to Indianapolis. ;)
Yes, were_cabbages in 2007 at Gencon Indy!!! Hopefully some of the other people we know from these boards will be there as well, so we all can crack open a cold one. I'll bring as much extra mead as I can stuff into my luggage.
Careful, airport security might drink -err... confiscate it all -you know for national security.
GGG
No, they won't ;)
No, they won't ;)
Ship it ahead of time, F2K, to a fellow were_cabbage. You might want to lock it up, though, and keep the key. Mead is tasty tasty stuff and well worth filching.
Is there no honor amongst were_cabbages?
No, they won't ;)Ship it ahead of time, F2K, to a fellow were_cabbage. You might want to lock it up, though, and keep the key. Mead is tasty tasty stuff and well worth filching.
Can't do it...can't ship alcohol unless I have a "license." My argument is that since you don't need a brewing license to homebrew (as long as you don't make more than 150 gallons a year--which is a dream ;) I don't need a license to ship it, but everything getting shipped out of El Paso gets sniffed and scanned for contraband, so I don't want to take a chance of any of that mead getting confiscated or broken, not when it takes me 6-8 months to make it. If I didn't live in a major drug pipeline town, I might ship it anyway, since there's no criminal penalty, it's just the USPS/UPS/Fedex internal regulations, but.....I'm naturally paranoid (which my wife and friends would all confirm with gusto).
but.....I'm naturally paranoid (which my wife and friends would all confirm with gusto).
Well they're probably in on it anyway.
;)
GGG
PS So what's all this talk about a manuscripts meeting? Does that mean the four or five overwritten adventure manuscripts I have in might actually see the light of print or perhaps finally be put out of their misery? What a cliffhanger! I don't even know if I want to know. Stay tuned. Same Paizo time. Same Paizo station.
Yeah, that's quite a teaser. Even more so than a meeting to look at queries. A greenlight on a manuscript is as close to a sure thing of making it to print as you can get. Hopefully the Were-cabbages catch the editors in the right mood.
Is there no honor amongst were_cabbages?
I'm sure there is - but mead is powerful stuff and may even sway the most honorable of men and women. Besides, wouldn't you want to wait to share it with all your friends?
Yeah, that's quite a teaser. Even more so than a meeting to look at queries. A greenlight on a manuscript is as close to a sure thing of making it to print as you can get. Hopefully the Were-cabbages catch the editors in the right mood.
There are no sure things. I sent my query in September 2004. I was asked to turn in a manuscript by December 1, 2004 (which I did). In February 2005, I was told that they had accepted the manuscript, but there was no room on the current schedule, so (unless someone failed to come through on a deadline) it would be put on the schedule at the next scheduling meeting. Yesterday, over a year later, I was informed that they have decided not to publish my manuscript. I'm sure I'll bounce back soon enough, but right now I'm feeling pretty lousy.
Is there no honor amongst were_cabbages?I'm sure there is - but mead is powerful stuff and may even sway the most honorable of men and women. Besides, wouldn't you want to wait to share it with all your friends?
Hmmm... I've had good mead and I've had terrible mead so I'd be a little wary of drinking the fruits of an unknown brewer. While I do not question f2k's skills at brewing such honeyed wines I am a bit... cautious.
Yet perhaps if the were_cabbages were to send the publishers a package of said mead it might put them in the right mood for all of us.
Yep, mine was shot down, too. But I wasn't surprised since it was one of those that sounded like a nifty idea initially, but even as I was writing it, it just didn't pan out (and looking back now, there were even issues with the initial concept I should have picked up on).
But James let me know in some detail what the issues were which was really above and beyond. And johnny.quest, sorry you made it all the way through the manuscript stage and was even approved and later rejected. That'll sting. But the best thing you can do is follow the freelancer creed - whenever you get a rejection, send in at least two more proposals. (It actually does help to have that sense of excitement and anticipation of new proposals to drown out the disappointment of the rejection.)
This has really been true in my experience. The only things that I have found to help ease that feeling after receiving a rejection are sending more proposals, or eating lots of ice cream. Had the ice cream last night, so it's time to work on the proposals today.
Good luck to you and the rest!!
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Often, an idea that sounds great in the query stage simplly doesn't translate into an adventure we can use once it reaches the manuscript stage. Alternately, the magazine's needs or focus can change between the query stage and the manuscript stage. We plan the magazine out over a year in advance (it's the only way to stay on top of it, really), and as a result we generally have on hand more adventures than we can publish. In some cases, that means we end up sitting on a manuscript for months or even years. If, after a year, we still haven't published an adventure, we have to make a hard decision what to do with it. Which, in some cases, does indeed result in an adventure ultimately being rejected late in the game. It sucks (I know—it's happened to me several times), but it's one of the unfortunate realities of the business. My best advice is to get back on the query circuit as soon as you can, and once a manuscript is in our hands to immediately start querying us about new adventures immediately.
Sorry to hear about your bad news, Johnny Q. I've felt the sting of having an accepted article later rejected (though it was on the Dragon side for me). Poke around at some 3rd party publishers and see if you can tweak your manuscript to fill their needs.
In some cases, that means we end up sitting on a manuscript for months or even years. If, after a year, we still haven't published an adventure, we have to make a hard decision what to do with it.
One of my adventures falls into this category. I submitted it in November 2004 and basically "accepted," but hasn't made its debut yet. To date, its ultimate fate remains up in the air.
Fortunately, an adventure I submitted last October was recently published, so even if my other adventure ultimately gets canned, I've had some success.
I also had a fair number of "accepted" articles with DRAGON that ended up being canned with the change in editors and the change in the magazine's focus. Published or not, they at least helped me hone my writing and learn the process. For better or for worse, it seems every submission has something to teach...
After a brief hiatus, I have yet another query marching towards the gate. Any idea how much of a backlog the gatekeeper currently faces?I currently have two queries floating around the black hole. The first of those was sent in May 1st; the second was just sent about a minute ago. :D
On that note, has anyone heard back from a query dated AFTER March 27th?
I remember James saying that he had gotten through the queries up to around March 24th or so before the meeting, so my query from the 27th just missed the cut so to speak there.
But now I'm looking at that query and I realized that in rush to submit what seemed like such a good idea, I "overlooked" a few error in the query, albeit minor ones (I hope).
And looking at the Dungeon Submission Guidelines, it says "If you have not heard back after a month, please feel free to contact us
again and make sure that we actually received your submission. The simple truth is that sometimes a
submission gets misplaced.".
So I'm really hoping in this case that the query got misplaced so that I could resubmit a new version with the errors corrected.
But first I was wondering if anyone else had heard back from a query after March 27th, before I go and send in another email to add to the editor's pile of emails to answer.
Yeah, that's quite a teaser. Even more so than a meeting to look at queries. A greenlight on a manuscript is as close to a sure thing of making it to print as you can get. Hopefully the Were-cabbages catch the editors in the right mood.There are no sure things. I sent my query in September 2004. I was asked to turn in a manuscript by December 1, 2004 (which I did). In February 2005, I was told that they had accepted the manuscript, but there was no room on the current schedule, so (unless someone failed to come through on a deadline) it would be put on the schedule at the next scheduling meeting. Yesterday, over a year later, I was informed that they have decided not to publish my manuscript. I'm sure I'll bounce back soon enough, but right now I'm feeling pretty lousy.
Johnny Q, I had one called "Faerie Tale" that I thought was a sure thing. It was damned cool it coudn't fail and I was really attached to it. Well, Paizo declined on it and I was really bummed out, but I was convinced that it was damn fine adventure and deserved to see print SOMEWHERE.
I had thought about querying Goodman Games about other projects before this, but never got around to doing it. After getting the rejection notice from Jeremy Walker within several minutes I looked up Goodman Games and sent a query in to Joseph Goodman that same night.
The next day I received a response from Joseph Goodman with some really enthusiastic interest in it. He asked for a copy of the manuscript, so I sent it over to him. Long story short and about 15,000 extra words that weren't originally part of the orignal draft, it will (pending something really wierd since I've already signed a contract) see print later this year.
The moral is that you should never give up if you think you have something good. Paizo is IMO the best of the best for D&D adventures, but there are a ton of other 3rd party publishers out there that might absolutely love you work and can't wait to get their hands on it. So keep plugging away with more queries and shop your stuff around.
But first I was wondering if anyone else had heard back from a query after March 27th, before I go and send in another email to add to the editor's pile of emails to answer.
I have 8 queries in, all starting from March 31 and staggering on through April. So far, I haven't heard anything about these queries, so at least a few people are in the same boat...
The next day I received a response from Joseph Goodman with some really enthusiastic interest in it. He asked for a copy of the manuscript, so I sent it over to him. Long story short and about 15,000 extra words that weren't originally part of the orignal draft, it will (pending something really wierd since I've already signed a contract) see print later this year.
Congratulations, Steve--that's awesome!! Looking forward to seeing it (and the other thing that some of the other Were_cabbages are working on together) in print.
Hey folks-
Don't have much time to chat, but we've been hovering at March 26th for a while where submissions are concerned - there's just a lot going on with the magazines right now. As for the "if you've not heard back from us within a month, please email..." section of the submission guidelines... right at the moment, I'd recommend waiting three months before pinging us about a query, as the less pings we have to respond to, the more queries we can read. Congrats to all the greenlights, good luck to the rest, and I hope to be emailing you soon!
-James S.
Hey folks-
Don't have much time to chat, but we've been hovering at March 26th for a while where submissions are concerned - there's just a lot going on with the magazines right now. As for the "if you've not heard back from us within a month, please email..." section of the submission guidelines... right at the moment, I'd recommend waiting three months before pinging us about a query, as the less pings we have to respond to, the more queries we can read. Congrats to all the greenlights, good luck to the rest, and I hope to be emailing you soon!
-James S.
Thanks James.
That is pretty much what I figured, with the "one month to respond" being under optimal conditions. I'll go back to constantly checking my email ;-) I guess I got spoiled by the quick turnaround on my first couple of queries.
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Hey folks-
Don't have much time to chat, but we've been hovering at March 26th for a while where submissions are concerned - there's just a lot going on with the magazines right now. As for the "if you've not heard back from us within a month, please email..." section of the submission guidelines... right at the moment, I'd recommend waiting three months before pinging us about a query, as the less pings we have to respond to, the more queries we can read. Congrats to all the greenlights, good luck to the rest, and I hope to be emailing you soon!
-James S.
Thanks for the note. This is what a lot of us needed to hear from you. Happy to wait...
I just heard back from James Sutter about the query that I was asking about above... maybe the idea was as cool as I thought it was originally, since it made it past the Gatekeeper despite the errors I noticed after the fact. (I mean, why doesn't my spellchecker have the correct spelling of cthulhu? Its a common word, right?)
I just heard back from James Sutter about the query that I was asking about above...
Same here -- looks like Mr. Sutter has started the laborious task of diving into a veritable sea of queries. I heard back on a March 31st proposal (an Eberron one), on its way for editorial review.
Congrats, gentlemen.
I just heard back from James Sutter about the query that I was asking about above...
What does it mean to have a query pass by the Gatekeeper? If it means that you're proposal is being considered by the editors, then I have passed by the Gatekeeper. If it means that it has been greenlit for a manuscript, then my proposal has not passed the Gatekeeper.
Speaking of manuscripts. One of my manuscripts has just been officially rejected by James Jacobs. It's the first manuscript of mine that's been rejected in a few years, but not the worst rejection of a manuscript I've received. Actually, I was looking over the manuscript a few weeks ago thinking about how average the adventure was (which is why I'm not cut up about it). Its funny how a good idea just doesn't transform into a good adventure. I wonder if the reverse ever applies. I'm sure there's been a few queries out there that would have made brilliant adventures but were never picked up by DUNGEON because they just didn't work as proposals.
Here's hoping that my other manuscript doesn't also get rejected. Now that would cut (but I could live with it)!
It's the former, Phil. :)
James Sutter will either send you an e-mail saying it's being passed on for review by the editors at one of the irregularly scheduled meetings, or he'll rip your still-beating heart out of your chest and stomp on it while you watch, helpless to prevent it. One of the two. ;)
I just heard back from James Sutter about the query that I was asking about above...Same here -- looks like Mr. Sutter has started the laborious task of diving into a veritable sea of queries. I heard back on a March 31st proposal (an Eberron one), on its way for editorial review.
Mine is an Eberron one too.
...James Sutter will...rip your still-beating heart out of your chest and stomp on it while you watch, helpless to prevent it. One of the two. ;)
1. Proof that a gray render is indeed strong; and
2. Good thing that writers regenerate...Here, all along I just thought it was heartburn...