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Finally got around to finish reading it through.
First thought, in regards to this discussion at hand, this is not Saw levels much at all. It's intense, more Penny Dreadful than Supernatural, but almost all of it is very easily glossed over or rewritten as needed (and the AP itself offers a sidebar on exactly which points need some attention).
But more importantly, this book absolutely rocks. The writing is great, the variety of encounters is terrific, and it feels absolutely connected to future events! That's my favorite bit. The last two first-books in APs seemed to be removable by design, but this one absolutely is dialed in from minute one. I really appreciate that.
Between the heavily lawful elements of the campaign and the grotesque horror that apparently will be a part of it as well... I will have to work at what table I put together. But a good table for this literally feels like a whole level higher than Extinction Curse or Age of Ashes.
If this quality keeps up, I see a future classic just started.
In before Paizo staff shows up to say, "Write a review!" :D
In before Paizo staff shows up to say, "Write a review!" :DFinally got around to finish reading it through.
First thought, in regards to this discussion at hand, this is not Saw levels much at all. It's intense, more Penny Dreadful than Supernatural, but almost all of it is very easily glossed over or rewritten as needed (and the AP itself offers a sidebar on exactly which points need some attention).
But more importantly, this book absolutely rocks. The writing is great, the variety of encounters is terrific, and it feels absolutely connected to future events! That's my favorite bit. The last two first-books in APs seemed to be removable by design, but this one absolutely is dialed in from minute one. I really appreciate that.
Between the heavily lawful elements of the campaign and the grotesque horror that apparently will be a part of it as well... I will have to work at what table I put together. But a good table for this literally feels like a whole level higher than Extinction Curse or Age of Ashes.
If this quality keeps up, I see a future classic just started.
Ha! Generally speaking, I'd prefer to run it before I commit to a review... but also, it would literally just join my backlog of intended reviews. Oops.
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Although I think the atmosphere and art in DatDP feel a bit too "Victorian London" to my taste, it's a well-written module that features great encounters and great maps! Well done, James; this is IMO the best 2E adventure published so far! :)
Some comments and a question:
I was also delighted to see the pickled punk encounter, but was somewhat confused by the stat block... first of all, it doesn't list any icons for actions? Secondly, pickled punk seems to be able to inflict automatic damage without spending any actions while attached? That is quite different from, for example, how bloodseeker's attach works. Maybe this was an oversight, or a "copy-paste" glitch from the 1E stat block?
This one sounded it good enough for me to throw in for a subscription. Last two didnt thrill me. Hope this one is better
Found a small discrepancy, probably doesn't matter much.
The intro to chapter one says the Radiant Festival was supposed to be in 4719 but was delayed because of Tar-Baphon's invasion (see "Tyrant's Grasp"). The "Radiant Festival" article says the first festival was in 1620, one year after the "Radiant Siege" of 1619, and the second, in 1720, was when it was decreed that there would be a festival every 100 years. So it wasn't every 100 years starting with the year of the siege, but every 100 years starting with the year after the siege. Which kind of makes sense.
Like I said, not a big deal, but little things like this bother us ocd types. :-)
Oh, another very minor detail: the "Radiant Festival" article speaks of "the 4,000 year history" of the festival. It's 3,000 years. :-)
Has anyone put out any homebrew for this that removes the civil forfeiture and fine/bribes?
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The book 1 GM thread in the AoE forum has a lot of posts from people working to strip it. Highly recommend you give it a read (and ignore the people who say "Actually it's fine")
Simplest solutions: stipend based on WBL table, bounty-based payouts, or have some kind of quartermaster NPC providing them stuff. Police auctions can also work ("hey this guy got arrested and processed and the city is selling his stuff to process it") but I don't like that stuff IRL either so YMMV.
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Lone Wolf Development plans to have the Pathfinder Agents of Edgewatch Adventure Path available for Hero Lab Online on October 20th.
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I do wish I had a way to discuss playing in these games without being in risk of spoilers.
Like it was really fun how yesterday we skipped the certain dungeon with use of single charm spell on certain person who was making situation much much more worse and thus managed to get peaceful compromise (for everyone but the person making things worse x'D) But I can't talk about specifics because that'd be spoiling and if I went to talk to spoiler thread I woudl get spoiled
I do wish I had a way to discuss playing in these games without being in risk of spoilers.
Like it was really fun how yesterday we skipped the certain dungeon with use of single charm spell on certain person who was making situation much much more worse and thus managed to get peaceful compromise (for everyone but the person making things worse x'D) But I can't talk about specifics because that'd be spoiling and if I went to talk to spoiler thread I woudl get spoiled
Consider: Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder Adventure Path
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Consider: Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder Adventure PathI do wish I had a way to discuss playing in these games without being in risk of spoilers.
Like it was really fun how yesterday we skipped the certain dungeon with use of single charm spell on certain person who was making situation much much more worse and thus managed to get peaceful compromise (for everyone but the person making things worse x'D) But I can't talk about specifics because that'd be spoiling and if I went to talk to spoiler thread I woudl get spoiled
But there are spoilers there xD
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Two sessions in and this feels like an absolute meat grinder.
I don't know if its some of the issues Paizo has with balancing things for level ones , something in the module, or just the new system, But it seems VERY hard for the PCs to hit anything, and incredibly easy for the NPCs to just hit crit a PC and drop them.
Levels 1-2 in Pathfinder are always pretty swingy. Blood Lords #1 is the same.
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I have started my progress of reviewing these books and detailing what the issue with ap is :'D
I think biggest issue with this book really is lack of adventure toolbox campaign outline article, it just has book volume summaries without detailing overall plan of the big bads resulting in that when you look at their plan as written, it just seems to have lot of weird holes in it.