Pathfinder Adventure Path #157: Devil at the Dreaming Palace (Agents of Edgewatch 1 of 6)

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Get ready to shine your badge and report for duty—the Agents of Edgewatch Adventure Path begins! In this thrilling new Pathfinder campaign, players assume the role of fresh recruits of the Edgewatch, the newest division of Absalom's city watch. Tasked with fighting crime during this year's Radiant Festival—a grand centennial gathering of exhibitors and wonders from around the world that this year celebrates the grand reopening of Absalom's treacherous Precipice Quarter, long a ruined haven of monsters and criminals. Soon after taking on the new beat, the detectives learn that the fair has attracted not only cutpurses and vandals, but also poisoners, ransomers, and even a sadistic serial murderer, and it's up to the Agents of Edgewatch to crack the case and bring these villains to justice!

“Devil at the Dreaming Palace,” by fan-favorite author James L. Sutter, is a Pathfinder adventure for four 1st-level characters. The adventure kicks off the Agents of Edgewatch Adventure Path, in which the heroes join the city watch to solve a series of crimes across Absalom, the City of Lost Omens, before the crooks can pull off the ultimate heist! This volume also includes an in-depth gazetteer of Absalom's Radiant Festival, thematically appropriate new monsters, and new rules designed to support the Agents of Edgewatch campaign!

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5/5


Gross murder porn stuff

1/5

I wrote a long review and the website strangely didn't save it.

Murder porn, police brutality, zombie babies, sex club. 0 warnings on the cover.

0 stars.


Not Perfect - But Definitely Promising!

4/5

I’ll start off by noting that I have not yet ran or played this campaign, but at the time of writing, I have bought all 6 books of the AP and intend to GM it for a group of my regular RP buddies very soon.

Keeping that in mind, I actually thought the first book in this AP was a pretty strong start. I had a few issues with it at the beginning, but otherwise, I was very happy with it. Also, this is the perspective of another white guy, but I thought that the themes of law enforcement are fine for the most part. Cop dramas are pretty popular on TV, and I kind of see Agents of Edgewatch as Paizo’s attempt to create a cop drama in roleplay form. Though, as another reviewer commented, I do not like the mercenary aspect of the Edgewatch Precinct either. I would’ve much rather seen the Precinct pay the players for their service – instead of forcing the players to get paid off by citizens and “confiscated” items. I intend to change this in my own home game, and run it much more like Pathfinder Society – where the players are expected to hand in everything they acquire during missions, and get a general salary for their work. If a player likes a particular piece of treasure, they can pay for it with their wages, and file the proper paperwork to get the original themselves, or pay for the precinct to get an exact copy made for them instead.

Now then, spoilers follow…

So, as far as my issues with the beginning go – I really was hoping that for an AP that’s basically trying to be a cop drama, they would do more at the beginning to set the stage for a cop drama. The campaign could’ve started with something unique, like the players taking the role of rookies having just signed up for the officer’s academy – and let them get to know each other in the first act while they went through basic training and their graduations.

Instead of something like that, Paizo threw us directly into the precinct and the party’s first assignment with absolutely no fanfare at all. Paizo didn’t even think it necessary to play out the opening ceremonies of the Radiant Festival – which is something that I’m definitely adding to my own home game.

Keeping all that in mind, I was still very happy with this AP book overall. The party goes to a number of unique locations like a zoo and a kind of Saw-like murder hotel – and though I’m not normally a fan of dungeon-delves (and I personally think Paizo relies too heavily on them in the first place), the unique nature of the dungeons in this book made me feel more excited for the experience. There’s also a great-looking roleplay segment where the party gets to meet a rogue’s gallery of villainous characters (who, unfortunately, in most circumstances never show up again – unless you write them back into the game yourself).

The two main villains of the book are pretty great too, and I have a feeling that a certain clown-prince of crime might have inspired the lead antagonist. Speaking of that lead antagonist, I’m intending to have him be a reoccurring character in my home game – and possibly even have him replace the ultimate villain of book 6 – because when it was all said and done, I actually liked him a LOT more than the campaign’s actual final villain.

As far as the first books other content, I did appreciate a map and description of the fairgrounds, and I intend to use it religiously during the opening acts of the campaign. The gear in the armory is also kind of cool – and I’m especially a fan of the telescoping nightsticks.

Overall – while this book did have its flaws, I was very happy with the installment.


A Masterclass in Foreshadowing

5/5

I'll spend little time discussing the themes of law enforcement in this book; others have done so better than I as a white person could ever do. Keep those reviews in mind before anything else: what I want to focus on is the excellent use of foreshadowing throughout the book. Spoilers ahead!

From the very start, payoffs are set up that won't come back until much, much later in the AP. Here's a mysterious zoo attack; the perpetrator will come back later. Here's an NPC that'll show up in the final book and help! Here's more who you'll meet later; some obviously antagonistic, some seemingly innocent. Setup for future books which could have completely been omitted as in many other AP volumes makes this a book with a narrative that'll weave in on itself throughout the adventure path. I can't wait for the glint of recognition in my players eyes followed by shock and surprise later on when mystery elements foreshadowed as early as the FIRST ENCOUNTER come back months later. And the fact that the book tells the GM that this will be important later lets them hype and build the scene with the due respect good foreshadowing needs without even having read the next books yet.

Whatever your take on the themes of Edgewatch, Paizo take note: this is how you set yourself apart from other APs!


A wonderful thriller marred by grotesque bits

2/5

Spoilers, in case you were wondering.

I will start this off by saying Sutter has given us an excellent adventure, with the buildup to the main villain and the affect he has had on almost every other NPC in some way, directly or not, being absolutely delicious for both players and GMs alike as all the pieces start to fall in to place.

The Menagerie riot is an interesting step in that while it may give many players red herrings for the time being its a nice little set piece that ties into later parts, more so if the players are able to actually pick up on it.

Midway through when the party has to infiltrate a villain bar and schmooze numerous characters (setting up the rogues gallery for this AP methinks) through various unique challenges and games is an utter delight as well.

That said, this AP does have some pitfalls so I would not in good conscience or taste run/play it as is.

There’s a small bit at the beginning where it says the PCs aren’t cops but mercenaries hired by the force, oof, to save on money and the like. That’s... not good, but it doesn’t seem to be addressed in the adventure proper and the PCs are indeed treated as rookie cops rather than outside assistance with less liability so that was probably left in from an earlier draft, hopefully.

Then there’s the loot. I wish more thought and different actions were taken in order to make sure PCs could stay equipped throughout the adventure but anytime people are dealt with, either criminals or victims, civil forfeiture and bribes/“thank yous” enter the picture and just leave an obscenely sour taste in my mouth. This whole component needs to be rewritten I would suggest.

Then we get to the second act, a workers revolt. Leading/Reading up to it you think there’ll be an intense hostage situation to try diplomacy at (and there is, to a point) when dealing with the workers who have been treated poorly, but sadly and horribly the workers revolting, Kobolds, wanting to set up a union for better rights and pay and chanting slogans they don’t understand but parrot (explicitly said so) immediate devolve into a massacre before the PCs even enter the picture, and the hostage situation itself for those that survived can go even worse very quickly and easily. This is compounded by the fact that the architect admits she was underpaying the Kobolds after, but the book tries to frame her a victim and as someone you should like, even pointing out she’ll be important later on in the AP. So Architect treating workers like crap good, protesters and unionizers deranged and homicidal, gotcha.

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David knott 242 wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
I'm pretty sure wild college dorm room parties are only American thing? Over here at least they go to have those parties at night clubs instead :p

American college students can't do that because we pretty much have a universal drinking age of 21, and bars and night clubs check everyone's IDs -- so usually the oldest seniors go out to buy kegs of beer and bring them back to the dorms.

We also did that at my college back around 1980, but even though the drinking age for beer and wine was only 18 back then, we were in a state where selling alcoholic drinks by the individual drink was illegal. The only advantage we had over the current day was that anyone but the youngest freshmen could buy the kegs.

Wait, so you couldnt buy a beer, but could buy a 6-pack?

Silver Crusade

Paladinosaur wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
I'm pretty sure wild college dorm room parties are only American thing? Over here at least they go to have those parties at night clubs instead :p

American college students can't do that because we pretty much have a universal drinking age of 21, and bars and night clubs check everyone's IDs -- so usually the oldest seniors go out to buy kegs of beer and bring them back to the dorms.

We also did that at my college back around 1980, but even though the drinking age for beer and wine was only 18 back then, we were in a state where selling alcoholic drinks by the individual drink was illegal. The only advantage we had over the current day was that anyone but the youngest freshmen could buy the kegs.

Wait, so you couldnt buy a beer, but could buy a 6-pack?

Yep, to discourage drinking and driving/in public.

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As soon I heard about this I was super excited. Urban adventures and police procedurals are right up there in my warm fuzzy's list.


I am so damn pumped for this one!

Scarab Sages

Might have to import some Royal Homeland Constabulary folks from Zeitgeist for this!

Dark Archive

Paladinosaur wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
I'm pretty sure wild college dorm room parties are only American thing? Over here at least they go to have those parties at night clubs instead :p

American college students can't do that because we pretty much have a universal drinking age of 21, and bars and night clubs check everyone's IDs -- so usually the oldest seniors go out to buy kegs of beer and bring them back to the dorms.

We also did that at my college back around 1980, but even though the drinking age for beer and wine was only 18 back then, we were in a state where selling alcoholic drinks by the individual drink was illegal. The only advantage we had over the current day was that anyone but the youngest freshmen could buy the kegs.

Wait, so you couldnt buy a beer, but could buy a 6-pack?

Welcome to the state of Pennsylvania.

Verdant Wheel

Hope we get the final cover soon with so much happening.

Grand Lodge Premier Event Coordinator

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If ever there was a case of bad timing...

Dark Archive

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I mean, 2020 is cursed in that sense. The Paizo had planned for second season of 2e PFS to be about plague spreading through PFS and inner sea from Iobaria :p And Slithering was originally worded more like a contagion than curse


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TwilightKnight wrote:
If ever there was a case of bad timing...

Depends on how much of this AP has Edgewatch being the good guys, and how much is about rooting out corruption and stuff. I mean, I expect it has a lot more to do with investigation and infiltrating cultist lairs and stuff, but I guess how presciently it handles some of these issues might be a thing.

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Sporkedup wrote:
TwilightKnight wrote:
If ever there was a case of bad timing...
Depends on how much of this AP has Edgewatch being the good guys, and how much is about rooting out corruption and stuff. I mean, I expect it has a lot more to do with investigation and infiltrating cultist lairs and stuff, but I guess how presciently it handles some of these issues might be a thing.

I mean regardless of whether focus is on fantasy crime organizations or what, there is always gonna be question of whether its okay for guards to throw fireballs

Silver Crusade

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Erik Mona said that the situation with Agents of Edgewatch will be addressed in a blog post in the coming days.


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CorvusMask wrote:
I mean regardless of whether focus is on fantasy crime organizations or what, there is always gonna be question of whether its okay for guards to throw fireballs

In a city like Absalom which has withstood multiple sieges, houses some of the most powerful non-good organisations in the world (e.g. the decemvirate) and literally has a god-making device in its cathedral? Fireballs are just a start of what guards should have access to.


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I think the idea is that fireballs kill indiscriminately, which is the last thing law enforcement should do.

Liberty's Edge

Sporkedup wrote:
TwilightKnight wrote:
If ever there was a case of bad timing...
Depends on how much of this AP has Edgewatch being the good guys, and how much is about rooting out corruption and stuff. I mean, I expect it has a lot more to do with investigation and infiltrating cultist lairs and stuff, but I guess how presciently it handles some of these issues might be a thing.

We do know that at one point in the AP the PCs will be betrayed by corrupt members of the guard who are in the pockets of some highly-placed 1-percenter types.

Grand Lodge Premier Event Coordinator

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Even if Paizo handles the subject matter with care, there are going to be arguments and complaints. I know they put a lot of work into it and depending on how quickly they could grind the machines of production, it might be a good idea to shelf this AP for a cycle or two and advance the next 1-2 APs in its place. The biggest issue is probably the printers and their deadline to printing something that would be available as a replacement. There probably isn’t enough time to make that happen.

Liberty's Edge

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TwilightKnight wrote:
Even if Paizo handles the subject matter with care, there are going to be arguments and complaints. I know they put a lot of work into it and depending on how quickly they could grind the machines of production, it might be a good idea to shelf this AP for a cycle or two and advance the next 1-2 APs in its place. The biggest issue is probably the printers and their deadline to printing something that would be available as a replacement. There probably isn’t enough time to make that happen.

Even if that were possible, and I basically guarantee it isn't, I don't think that's actually the best response. From a risk-averse, PR-focused perspective it might be, but the plan should not be to just wait until "all this blows over and things go back to normal." No one, including Paizo, should want things to go back to normal. Agents of Edgewatch can be one catalyst for talking about these issues now, in the moment, and I for one am ready to have that conversation.


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I can't wait for Agents of Edgewatch!

No, I don't plan on comparing it to current events, as Agents of Edgewatch was created months ago, probably even before the pandemic.

Dark Archive

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captain yesterday wrote:


No, I don't plan on comparing it to current events, as Agents of Edgewatch was created months ago, probably even before the pandemic.

Yes thank you this is an Ap that I'm assuming has been in development for over a year (if not a fair bit longer)

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Kevin Mack wrote:


Yes thank you this is an Ap that I'm assuming has been in development for over a year (if not a fair bit longer)

APs have a long lead time. For instance, I turned in the manuscript for book six last July.

Liberty's Edge

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Like every adventure I get to play, I look forward to playing a hero in a world of violence. It would not be the first time I've seen players deliberately issuing non lethal damage because, "If we kill them they cannot learn the error of their wrongs."

I'm really looking forward to running or playing this AP. Paizo, please dont bow to public pressure and cancel this. Stand up for the ideal of pushing back on social misconceptions. For any who would say that all law enforcement officers are evil, I ask, how many do you know?

Give us the chance to play the good guys, and show others that its possible.


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RobertTHEPerylous wrote:

Like every adventure I get to play, I look forward to playing a hero in a world of violence. It would not be the first time I've seen players deliberately issuing non lethal damage because, "If we kill them they cannot learn the error of their wrongs."

I'm really looking forward to running or playing this AP. Paizo, please dont bow to public pressure and cancel this. Stand up for the ideal of pushing back on social misconceptions. For any who would say that all law enforcement officers are evil, I ask, how many do you know?

Give us the chance to play the good guys, and show others that its possible.

For what it's worth, there's little to no public pressure to cancel this. In fact, I haven't seen a single call for it on here or reddit--maybe somewhere else has different opinions.

The bulk of folks trust Paizo, as being a thoughtful and very inclusive creator community, to not throw something really tasteless out there (though obviously this was written over a year ago, so it doesn't really have the current situation in the US to reflect on).


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I would be so angry if this got cancelled.

Dark Archive

I really don't like the cover layout:
That smug (to me unsympathic) looking guy in the forefront and the way too thick upper & lower edge take away too much from the great looking action art piece with Lem & Sajan (which i can only guess) fighting a cockatrice!

I have an unpopular suggestion:

Loose the NPCs in the forefront and print the cover art full-page without the edges.
The "Pathfinder" and "second edition" logos at the top can stay exactly like they are without the green bar under it taking up so much Space.
The "Agents of Edgewatch" logo can move to the lower left edge and the title of the volume with writer's name needs to be reduced in size and moved to the far right corner.

A large cover illustration is much more impressive, if i compare this to the new D&D 5e adventures, Pathfinder has better art, but D&D has a far superior layout.

Silver Crusade

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I wouldn't hold anything against them if they delay this product.

Silver Crusade

*tilts head*

Is that Mona on the cover?

Silver Crusade

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

I really don't like the cover layout:

That smug (to me unsympathic) looking guy in the forefront and the way too thick upper & lower edge take away too much from the great looking action art piece with Lem & Sajan (which i can only guess) fighting s cockatrice!

I have an unpopular suggestion:

Loose the NPCs in the forefront and print the cover art full-page without the edges.
The "Pathfinder" and "second edition" logos at the top can stay exactly like they are without the green bar under it taking up so much Space.
The "Agents of Edgewatch" logo can move to the lower left edge and the title of the volume with writer's name needs to be reduced in size and moved to the far right corner.

A large cover illustration is much more impressive, if i compare this to the new D&D 5e adventures, Pathfinder has better art, but D&D has a far superior layout.

DnD's Adventures have very subdued or focused layouts for their covers.

For Pathfinder APs if you removed the front character, who is tied to the AP, the action scene in the background is just too messy for a cover and it wouldn't highlight and direct anyone's attention the way the title and character front and center do.

Absolutely do not need to reduce the title or author's name.

Dark Archive

Rysky wrote:

*tilts head*

Is that Mona on the cover?

Erik looks much better.


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Love the cover! Looks like a great time!

Grand Archive

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The only thing I am a little bit disappointed in it’s that we don’t see Lem with the guard uniform

Grand Lodge

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
...writer's name needs to be reduced in size and moved to the far right corner.

Absolutely not. Next to the title of the book, the most prominent text should be the author, IMO. The author of any creative project should always be a prominently featured aspect of the publication. Art is in the eye of the beholder so we can certainly discuss what we’d like to see changed, but there should never be a compromise made on the acknowledgement of the writer. If there was space, I’d like to see the rest of the team who worked on the book be more prominent, but due to the nature of Paizo and how many people put there hands on a project, the title page is probably the best way to acknowledge all those contributors.


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Rysky wrote:
I wouldn't hold anything against them if they delay this product.

I wouldn't hold it against them either but I do trust Paizo and the authors they employ to deliver a sensitive product that takes account of real world issues as best it can in a fictional fantasy setting. I would also have serious concerns about the financial impact on the company of cancelling / postponing six months of the flagship line so early in the 2E product cycle and in what are already challenging economic times.

I hope this AP is successful and that, where there are issues, they can be addressed by GMs at their tables.


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Rysky wrote:

*tilts head*

Is that Mona on the cover?

Actually, I think it's Lem! :P


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Looking forward to this one! James S. Is awesome!


Lem is jumping on big dino evil chicken!

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"Let me introduce you to your new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher .... me."


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Oh interesting. Wasn't expecting a cover change this close to release. Are the others getting new covers as well? Admittedly I'll be kind of sad to see the cover to the second book change, with how awesomely gruesome it is. Though it does certainly evoke a certain "OhGod, things are going to escalate QUICK in book 2" feeling, lol.


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VestOfHolding wrote:
Oh interesting. Wasn't expecting a cover change this close to release. Are the others getting new covers as well? Admittedly I'll be kind of sad to see the cover to the second book change, with how awesomely gruesome it is. Though it does certainly evoke a certain "OhGod, things are going to escalate QUICK in book 2" feeling, lol.

I thought only this book so far has had its actual cover revealed? The rest are just placeholders, no?

Dark Archive

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VestOfHolding wrote:
Oh interesting. Wasn't expecting a cover change this close to release. Are the others getting new covers as well? Admittedly I'll be kind of sad to see the cover to the second book change, with how awesomely gruesome it is. Though it does certainly evoke a certain "OhGod, things are going to escalate QUICK in book 2" feeling, lol.

Paizo almost always has placeholder pictures with art from old books first

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CorvusMask wrote:
VestOfHolding wrote:
Oh interesting. Wasn't expecting a cover change this close to release. Are the others getting new covers as well? Admittedly I'll be kind of sad to see the cover to the second book change, with how awesomely gruesome it is. Though it does certainly evoke a certain "OhGod, things are going to escalate QUICK in book 2" feeling, lol.
Paizo almost always has placeholder pictures with art from old books first

Yep, usually the hint usually is that the logo is not the official final one. (The one revealed with the AP)


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I'am thinking upset River Drake or upset Cockatrice on the cover? Can not wait for the Players Guide of this to come out! Will try to run it one of these days!

Silver Crusade

Cockatrice.


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kevin bienhoff wrote:
I'am thinking upset River Drake or upset Cockatrice on the cover? Can not wait for the Players Guide of this to come out! Will try to run it one of these days!

Hopefully that makes it to us by the end of this week. Unless some gremlins got loose and stole the master file. Lil bastards! LOL!


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Windjammer wrote:

"Let me introduce you to your new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher .... me."

This scene has become disturbingly more plausible in the years since the release of this film . . . .


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theLegend76 wrote:
kevin bienhoff wrote:
I'am thinking upset River Drake or upset Cockatrice on the cover? Can not wait for the Players Guide of this to come out! Will try to run it one of these days!
Hopefully that makes it to us by the end of this week. Unless some gremlins got loose and stole the master file. Lil bastards! LOL!

*looking innocent*

Who...us?


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Maybe Squelly Nord got into something he shoukdnt have.


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Any update on the players guide release date?


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Last I remember hearing, Adam said it would probably be this week.


Probably a dumb question, but is this for 1E or 2E Pathfinder


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Noah Cadwell wrote:

Probably a dumb question, but is this for 1E or 2E Pathfinder

All Adventure Path volumes numbered #145 and up are for Second Edition Pathfinder.

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