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Pathfinder Adventure Path #146: Cult of Cinders (Age of Ashes 2 of 6)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path #146: Cult of Cinders (Age of Ashes 2 of 6)
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The citadel atop Hellknight Hill has been claimed, along with the ring of ancient portals in its basement. What dangers lie beyond this magical portal, and what do the cultists who've used it before have in store? There's only one way to find out: the heroes must travel through to the lands beyond, where they will make new allies, face new enemies, and do much, much more! The Age of Ashes Adventure Path continues with "Cult of Cinders"—a complete adventure for 5th–8th level characters.

ISBN: 978-1-64078-188-7

"Age of Ashes" is sanctioned for use in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. The rules for running this Adventure and Chronicle sheet are available as a free download (761 kb zip/PDF).

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Fun trip to the Jungle

4/5 —

TL;DR: as with the first book, better than I thought. Has its quirks and writing is uneven but nice take on Ekujae elves who weren't just LOTR wood elves living a jungle. Hhexploration and cult theme was fun. Players seemed to have fun with it.

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Overall, I liked the elves although some of the social interactions, which were designed to highlight the social system, varied a lot in quality. But as written, easy enough to use the ones you liked. My players liked the ones I used, and I topped off as suggested with some local encounters.

As an intro to hexploration it was a lot of fun. Only nit, is, like the PFS societies, it would have been nice if it had encounters built for 2-levels of parties so that it was easier for the ref to make adjustment to encounter level if the players took a different path than the author anticipated. Sure, I can adjust but it is a nuisance. If your part does a thorough path of top left to right, next row down right to left, and so on, you will be hitting the encounters in level they are built for.

The chapter ending encounters were decent and the fact there were factions within the foes that you could interact with and a boss that didn't have to be killed as fun.

The book ending battle was okay. The encounters themselves were fun but boss was written well enough and integrated but the fort setting was poorly thought out. The main entrance was odd given the water approach, the walls and wall access was unclear in terms getting from inside to wall top as written.

And as a fort it was better than the citadel in the first book but it had its own poor design elements. The boss was a bit insane so maybe she just didn't design a good fort but it would have made more sense to have walls taller than the roof for LOS with more clearly defined steps/ladders inside to outside and wall top. The entry would have made more sense as a double gate maybe with a wet to dry bit between the two gates and a place inside for boats after the inner gate. Granted there was a security system around it but it was still an odd layout and I am not sure how many parties actually get to the fort without all the pillars dealt with.



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So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?
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ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...
Liberty's Edge
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James Jacobs wrote:
ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

Please use page references! I know its cleaner and saves space, but it can be a pain to figure out. Or perhaps use some sort of index?

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James Jacobs wrote:
ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

That is genuinely confusing... looking it up in the book with the explanation, it makes sense. However, intuitively, it does not. I thoroughly appreciate the page reference for the creatures in the adventures a ton because it allows me to immediately look them up without too much searching. It is a wonderful benefit, even if it does only save a few minutes. As a layman's suggestion, I would advise either completely removing the page referencing where the rules for elite creatures are because it creates that layer of confusion, or specify that the secondary page number is where the rules are at. For example,

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, Elite Rules 6)

That would have cleared up a lot of the confusion because it would not leave the reader with any room for misinterpretation. I originally wanted to put down "Modifiers" instead of "Rules", but then the word "Modifiers" with the number 6 could be misinterpreted as a modifier in and of itself. But the above use of words in the Adventure Path would have assisted me in understanding what the second number was for.
Dark Archive
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James Jacobs wrote:

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)
Paizo Employee Creative Director
3Doubloons wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)

That would work as well, but I'm not sure that's our editorial style—that's a question for the editors to look at.

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

No no no, have to say, the page reference and book reference is extremely useful.

That being said, the high number first is probably less confusing. Once I understood the italics though? had no issues.
Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
3Doubloons wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)

That would work as well, but I'm not sure that's our editorial style—that's a question for the editors to look at.

Not that this will be used, but in my personal notes I am uinsg: PF2eB1 pg6,304

Mainly because I know there will be a B2..3...4.. I also use PF2eCRB pg250

My players and I appreciate how African this feels.
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Just curious, was this product released in a file-per-chapter format? All of my other AP issues show up both in single file and file-per-chapter format, but this one did not.

Did I just miss something?
Zandari wrote:

Just curious, was this product released in a file-per-chapter format? All of my other AP issues show up both in single file and file-per-chapter format, but this one did not.

Did I just miss something?

Same for me, I suppose this is normal then.

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On the main Paizo page, this is listed as an upcoming release. (I assume it was suppose to be book 2 of Strength of Thounsands)
Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
TAVelcro wrote:
On the main Paizo page, this is listed as an upcoming release. (I assume it was suppose to be book 2 of Strength of Thounsands)

Noticed that too. Perhaps a reprint run? Seems unlikely.

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