To be fair they said no to any other paizo adventure paths getting a hard cover too, so... Maybe we will. ^_^
To be fair they said no to any other paizo adventure paths getting a hard cover too, so... Maybe we will. ^_^
Some things are worth waiting for. A dragon-related Pathfinder/Golarion book would be one of those.
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300 posts says nothing. Especially since ~250 of them are probably from the same 20 people ;)
Hey Owen, if it is not too late could we please get more options for the "Form of the Dragon" spells. With all the new dragons Paizo has added over the years those spell have started to seem (at least to me) slightly outdated.
The same 20 people, what on earth do you mean;)
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Hey Owen, if it is not too late could we please get more options for the "Form of the Dragon" spells. With all the new dragons Paizo has added over the years those spell have started to seem (at least to me) slightly outdated.
While it is past the time I could add a whole new set of options, it's safe to say we thought about that. :)
This can't arrive fast enough for me, though I still hold out hope for a hardback Pathfinder style Draconomicon.
It's almost June so just a little bit more then a month away.
Hey Owen, if it is not too late could we please get more options for the "Form of the Dragon" spells. With all the new dragons Paizo has added over the years those spell have started to seem (at least to me) slightly outdated.While it is past the time I could add a whole new set of options, it's safe to say we thought about that. :)
So will you think about it again sometime in the future?
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So will you think about it again sometime in the future?Hey Owen, if it is not too late could we please get more options for the "Form of the Dragon" spells. With all the new dragons Paizo has added over the years those spell have started to seem (at least to me) slightly outdated.While it is past the time I could add a whole new set of options, it's safe to say we thought about that. :)
Let's wait until this book is out and then we can talk about whether we feel the idea needs more consideration. :)
Owen, since I lack a better way to say this: try to push for some Brawler archetypes. None have been released since ACG:Origins, and I think the class has a ton of space for reframing and retooling.
Am I the only one who comes here every day to see if the final art and description have been updated? 10+ times a day?
I just keep waiting every day...like the rest of you.
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Not on weekends or while I am at work;)
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Feats that grant anyone regardless of race or class low-light vision(or improved low-light vision if you already have), darkvision 60ft(+30ft if you already have), immune to sleep, immune to paralysis, energy resistance 10, draconic wings, etc. Also the requirements should only be based on level, not stats, BA, class, multiple feats, etc.
Rules for Imperial, Primal, Occult, and Outer dragons for half-dragon template, sorcerer bloodline, bloodrager bloodline, etc.
I'm coming in late to this thread so this might not be relevant anymore, but you might want to check out the Blood of Dragons Bloodline Race Trait from Ultimate Campaign. It's available to any race and gives you the choice of low-light vision, +1 on perception checks, or +2 on saves vs. sleep or paralysis. So you can get low-light vision with a trait, and it's even Dragon-based. :)
I am aware of that trait;)
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This product is getting MUCH MORE discussion than most other even BEFORE being updated is an indicator of how dragon starved the community is.
The only dragon products that come to my mind are:
-Dragons Revisited (3.5)
-Dragons Unleashed (Pathfinder)
-Dragon Slayers Handbook (Pathfinder)
That is very little considering that almost every AP has dragons in it.
Even though James Jacobs wrote there are no plans to make an "All Dragon AP", i think there needs to be one eventually.
But i would settle for a "Dragons of Golarion" (Inner Sea is not enough) or "Dragon Adventures" or "Ultimate Dragons" hardcover. ;-)
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Dragons of Golarion, containing stats for each of the most influential great wyrms of Golarion (from each type of true dragons) and two of their most loyal servants. Sold!
This product is getting MUCH MORE discussion than most other even BEFORE being updated is an indicator of how dragon starved the community is.
The only dragon products that come to my mind are:
-Dragons Revisited (3.5)
-Dragons Unleashed (Pathfinder)
-Dragon Slayers Handbook (Pathfinder)That is very little considering that almost every AP has dragons in it.
Even though James Jacobs wrote there are no plans to make an "All Dragon AP", i think there needs to be one eventually.
But i would settle for a "Dragons of Golarion" (Inner Sea is not enough) or "Dragon Adventures" or "Ultimate Dragons" hardcover. ;-)
Lol. How many time will that get repeated?
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Dragons of Golarion, containing stats for each of the most influential great wyrms of Golarion (from each type of true dragons) and two of their most loyal servants. Sold!
Let's see who comes to mind:
-Kazavon from CotCT
-Cadrilkasta from SS
-Mengkare/yourself
-??? the Sovereign Dragon from JR (and a lot more from Tian Xia like the Celestial Dragon from "Pathfinder Tales: Master of Devils"
Lol. How many time will that get repeated?
Maybe someone with a lot of time should count how many different posters there really are ;)
So that you doesn't need to repeat yourself as well, there are 81 different posters (and I didn't even used the amount of time you imagined). Dragon78 is responsible for at least a hundred out of those 323. XD
But, indeed, this product got a lot of attention. Well... What else if not dragons? (Planes/Outsiders, Mythos and Faith?)
Not on weekends or while I am at work;)
I check just to see if you start squeeing...
We have thirty different dragons now. However, we know almost nothing about most of them because the *bestiaries* are quite vague. At least two books, Planar Dragons Revisited (Primal and Esoteric) and Distant Dragons Revisited (Imperial and Outer), are needed... Or at least wanted... XD
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I would love some info on those dragons...maybe one day. Oh and before I forget it's at least a 101 posts now;)
Dragons are lame and cliché, this should be the last product on this theme for at least a few years so they can do cooler stuff like fey, protheans, and daemons.
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If only dragons in pathfinder got as much attention as demons and devils:(
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I think the lack of focus on dragons is somewhat intentional. The "other" game even has Dragons in it's title. They released the newest edition with a dragon-centric storyline.
I believe it ill be years before we see a Dragon based AP.
I would love something like an "Ultimate Dragons", maybe with some new dragons, and dragon focused archetypes (dragon spirits for both Shamans and Mediums; dragon patrons; mythic dragon based path abilities, like changing into a dragon!). I'm exceptionally excited about this books!
All things considered, though, I suspect that Pathfinder is trying to distance itself from the Other Game. Of course... there's always Starfinder. Dragons... In... SPACE!!!!!!!!
Well, we can just hope that the entire "vote with your wallet" theory is true. It looks like this book is going to be pretty popular, and in theory that means that we'll get more dragon themed books.
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If I ever suggest someone who worked on a book I helped develop should be sacrificed, you'll know I have been replaced by a pod person.Well, I had a good run of things. ;)You are perfectly safe Thursty. You haven't reached a point where it's meet and right to eat your heart to absorb your power.
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Not quiiiiiiiiiiiite yes...You can't eat peoples' hearts!
They're way too gamy! I'd recommend the liver, maybe pair it with a nice wine and some legumes.
Pretty sure Thursty's liver isn't safe eating. :P
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Pretty sure Thursty's liver isn't safe eating. :PIf I ever suggest someone who worked on a book I helped develop should be sacrificed, you'll know I have been replaced by a pod person.Well, I had a good run of things. ;)You are perfectly safe Thursty. You haven't reached a point where it's meet and right to eat your heart to absorb your power.
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Not quiiiiiiiiiiiite yes...You can't eat peoples' hearts!
They're way too gamy! I'd recommend the liver, maybe pair it with a nice wine and some legumes.
It's just pre-marinated!
Don't you mean Self Marinated. :-)
I think we need to get his alcohol soaked liver away from those fire breathing dragons.
Does it come with a warning:
DANGER! HIGHLY COMBUSTIBLE! DO NOT USE NEAR OPEN FLAME!?
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I think the lack of focus on dragons is somewhat intentional. The "other" game even has Dragons in it's title. They released the newest edition with a dragon-centric storyline.
I believe it ill be years before we see a Dragon based AP.
I would love something like an "Ultimate Dragons", maybe with some new dragons, and dragon focused archetypes (dragon spirits for both Shamans and Mediums; dragon patrons; mythic dragon based path abilities, like changing into a dragon!). I'm exceptionally excited about this books!
All things considered, though, I suspect that Pathfinder is trying to distance itself from the Other Game. Of course... there's always Starfinder. Dragons... In... SPACE!!!!!!!!
There's no doubt about it, as it sure is a good enough reason... However, by doing that they are giving up on a potential public!
I'm sure the team has what is needed to write distinct and original settings related to dragons (Look at Dahak and Mengkare), as well as to increase the content about them - after all, look how many fantastic dragons we find in each Bestiary, and yet we know nothing about them. The number of dragons is increasing, but the content about each of them is not.
We don't want merely more dragons, we want more about Pathfinder dragons. Books like "Dragons of Golarion", "Inner Sea Dragons" or "Dragons Codex"...
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*wants Linnorms*
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*wants Linnorms**wants Linnorms badly*
Oh. Baby.
It would take a lot revisited books to get info for the remaining true dragons, linnorms, drakes, and more.
Still dragons. Big lizards who breathe stuff. The number of appendages is irrelevant. They've been done and overdone, and I found Golarion to be refreshing in its focus away from all things dragon.
I don´t think there´s actually any real room left in the Inner Sea where you could fit in bigger and mighty dragons.
In TianXia however...they are written into the Lore of the Land!And nearly any region that is not the Inner Sea has enough place for interesting dragons.
So, perhaps some people should move away from a dragon only thing in the inner sea and instead begin to push for books of other regions containing some more dragon stuff.
Who knows, maybe over in Arcadia a dragon fell on love with a human, elf, halfling or gnome and they spawned a new race together :D
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I'm glad I have a linnorm support in Rysky.
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Meh, dragons. Between 3405 D&D books on them, I don't need any more.
Yea, the problem for me is that while I WANTED to play D&D back during 2nd edition, I was not able to join regular roleplaying groups until early Pathfinder. I completely missed all these dragons that other people are so tired of. The fact that so many GMs and designers actively try to keep dragons out of games now is beyond annoying for a dragon fan like myself.