Well, should hopefully have my book tomorrow. That said being a forever DM, I might be altering some adventure path enemies into having some of these classes...
You would probably get some mileage out of reworking every instance of an evocation caster into the kineticist. Should make them a bit more dangerous.
Also, am I the only one who preferred the fill-in artwork for the cover?
The fill-in was a pretty cool bit of art, but having some of the new Icons on the cover is a staple, and the new cover has more of the traditional Pathfinder feel to it.
Nope, better stuff for just the move. You could do it at 7th for no burn if you spent more time. At 11th, you can do it with a move. By the time you have composite specialization, you can empower a composite for free with a move action gather energy.
But gathering energy would negate the point of going kinetic blade, since you can't full attack if you've used your move-action. So not really an option with my concept... hmm... might need to homebrew once the book is released.
I strongly recommend not allowing someone to use a kinetic blade full attack with a composite blast at no burn cost.
Nope, better stuff for just the move. You could do it at 7th for no burn if you spent more time. At 11th, you can do it with a move. By the time you have composite specialization, you can empower a composite for free with a move action gather energy.But gathering energy would negate the point of going kinetic blade, since you can't full attack if you've used your move-action. So not really an option with my concept... hmm... might need to homebrew once the book is released.
I heard mention of Vital Strike. Don't know if that works or not, though.
It doesn't...unless you're an Elemental Annihilator!I heard mention of Vital Strike. Don't know if that works or not, though.Nope, better stuff for just the move. You could do it at 7th for no burn if you spent more time. At 11th, you can do it with a move. By the time you have composite specialization, you can empower a composite for free with a move action gather energy.But gathering energy would negate the point of going kinetic blade, since you can't full attack if you've used your move-action. So not really an option with my concept... hmm... might need to homebrew once the book is released.
That's terrifying. Mark, what have you wrought?
I strongly recommend not allowing someone to use a kinetic blade full attack with a composite blast at no burn cost.
I'd be doing it in an archetype similar in manner to what kinetic ascetic does with kinetic fist, in that it'd remove the standard blast, and replace it with kinetic blade.
But, the main thing was that I simply wanted to create swords wield them as my characters main form of attack, which cannot really be done because of the burn costs. I was originally just going to flavour the slashing earth blasts as shooting swords and slashing earth kinetic blade as making swords, but since metal blasts is a mechanical thing, my Gm isn't allowing that reflavouring.
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I strongly recommend not allowing someone to use a kinetic blade full attack with a composite blast at no burn cost.I'd be doing it in an archetype similar in manner to what kinetic ascetic does with kinetic fist, in that it'd remove the standard blast, and replace it with kinetic blade.
But, the main thing was that I simply wanted to create swords wield them as my characters main form of attack, which cannot really be done because of the burn costs. I was originally just going to flavour the slashing earth blasts as shooting swords and slashing earth kinetic blade as making swords, but since metal blasts is a mechanical thing, my Gm isn't allowing that reflavouring.
Ah, and the archetype could reduce the damage of kinetic blade in some way as a counterbalance.
As an alternative, the good news is that the new way of doing blasts makes it super easy to handle this. Just get the GM to define "crude metal" or the like as a special basic blast for your character. By being basic, not composite, it will do the right damage automatically. If the GM is concerned with allowing magnetic, you could agree that you only get to do magnetic when you composite non-crude metal. With the new way of defining basic blasts, composite blasts, physical blasts, and energy blasts, I was hoping to make it as easy as possible for any GM to create (or allow a player-created version) new skins on blasts without having to do any rules work (as long as the new blast picks an old blast to use its infusions).
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That's terrifying. Mark, what have you wrought?It doesn't...unless you're an Elemental Annihilator!I heard mention of Vital Strike. Don't know if that works or not, though.Nope, better stuff for just the move. You could do it at 7th for no burn if you spent more time. At 11th, you can do it with a move. By the time you have composite specialization, you can empower a composite for free with a move action gather energy.But gathering energy would negate the point of going kinetic blade, since you can't full attack if you've used your move-action. So not really an option with my concept... hmm... might need to homebrew once the book is released.
Wait til tomorrow for more gory details, but I will say this: the annihilator's capstone is called omnicide!
Wait til tomorrow for more gory details, but I will say this: the annihilator's capstone is called omnicide!That's terrifying. Mark, what have you wrought?It doesn't...unless you're an Elemental Annihilator!I heard mention of Vital Strike. Don't know if that works or not, though.Nope, better stuff for just the move. You could do it at 7th for no burn if you spent more time. At 11th, you can do it with a move. By the time you have composite specialization, you can empower a composite for free with a move action gather energy.But gathering energy would negate the point of going kinetic blade, since you can't full attack if you've used your move-action. So not really an option with my concept... hmm... might need to homebrew once the book is released.
Well, dang. And I thought a spell to blow up people's heads was going to be the most murdertastic thing in this book
As an alternative, the good news is that the new way of doing blasts makes it super easy to handle this. Just get the GM to define "crude metal" or the like as a special basic blast for your character...
With the new way of defining basic blasts, composite blasts, physical blasts, and energy blasts, I was hoping to make it as easy as possible for any GM to create (or allow a player-created version) new skins on blasts without having to do any rules work (as long as the new blast picks an old blast to use its infusions)...
Interesting, he wasn't allowing it as a reflavouring with the playtest rules, but if the rules have changed it might work after all.
If the GM is concerned with allowing magnetic, you could agree that you only get to do magnetic when you composite non-crude metal.
Nah, it was just "No you can't reflavour earth blasts to be metal, since metal blasts have mechanics, so if you want to make swords you have to use the composite blast." specifics on mechanics weren't involved as much as simply there already being mechanics for metal blasts.
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As an alternative, the good news is that the new way of doing blasts makes it super easy to handle this. Just get the GM to define "crude metal" or the like as a special basic blast for your character...
With the new way of defining basic blasts, composite blasts, physical blasts, and energy blasts, I was hoping to make it as easy as possible for any GM to create (or allow a player-created version) new skins on blasts without having to do any rules work (as long as the new blast picks an old blast to use its infusions)...
Interesting, he wasn't allowing it as a reflavouring with the playtest rules, but if the rules have changed it might work after all.
If the GM is concerned with allowing magnetic, you could agree that you only get to do magnetic when you composite non-crude metal.Nah, it was just "No you can't reflavour earth blasts to be metal, since metal blasts have mechanics, so if you want to make swords you have to use the composite blast." specifics on mechanics weren't involved as much as simply there already being mechanics for metal blasts.
It's not that it specifically tells you to go forth and make reflavored blasts, but mechanically, it is now very easy to do so (other than deciding which infusions go with it, which you can do by just making an isomorphism to one of the current elements). You simply declare something a simple physical blast that deals slashing damage and is isomorphic to earth, and you have done all the work necessary to make a "sword blast".
Also, I love homebrewing, so if you need someone to specifically give your GM the OK to go forth and make reflavored blasts, I'm glad to do so.
I've been reading the pregen character occult Mesmerist character (I don't have the book yet), and have a major question about Mesmerist tricks. It states in the Tricks entry in "special abilities" that a Mesmerist can put a "hypnotic suggestion", in other words, a trick, in an ally's mind. Tell me if I'm wrong, but the Mesmerist can also place the trick on himself correct?
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I've been reading the pregen character occult Mesmerist character (I don't have the book yet), and have a major question about Mesmerist tricks. It states in the Tricks entry in "special abilities" that a Mesmerist can put a "hypnotic suggestion", in other words, a trick, in an ally's mind. Tell me if I'm wrong, but the Mesmerist can also place the trick on himself correct?
You are your own ally, and self-hypnosis is a thing, so yup!
It's not that it specifically tells you to go forth and make reflavored blasts, but mechanically, it is now very easy to do so (other than deciding which infusions go with it, which you can do by just making an isomorphism to one of the current elements). You simply declare something a simple physical blast that deals slashing damage and is isomorphic to earth, and you have done all the work necessary to make a "sword blast".
Ah, yeah that's sorta what I was thinking. I mean, worst comes to worst, I'll say the swords are made of gold. Softer than steel, so an explanation for why it deals less damage than metal blast, and it's not magnetic.
Also, I love homebrewing, so if you need someone to specifically give your GM the OK to go forth and make reflavored blasts, I'm glad to do so.
Haha thanks. It'll be funny to see his face when I tell him you said that.
It's not that it specifically tells you to go forth and make reflavored blasts, but mechanically, it is now very easy to do so (other than deciding which infusions go with it, which you can do by just making an isomorphism to one of the current elements). You simply declare something a simple physical blast that deals slashing damage and is isomorphic to earth, and you have done all the work necessary to make a "sword blast".Ah, yeah that's sorta what I was thinking. I mean, worst comes to worst, I'll say the swords are made of gold. Softer than steel, so an explanation for why it deals less damage than metal blast, and it's not magnetic.
Also, I love homebrewing, so if you need someone to specifically give your GM the OK to go forth and make reflavored blasts, I'm glad to do so.Haha thanks. It'll be funny to see his face when I tell him you said that.
You could also use the whole real-world metal used in weapons and do bronze -> steel. Also inferior and not magnetic.
I might have missed something, but I'm under the impression that the kineticist is not able to manipulate the materials of the composite blasts. It doesn't say anywhere that once a kineticist is able to attack with metal, he can move it (as with basic kinesis) as well. Is this by design?
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You could also use the whole real-world metal used in weapons and do bronze -> steel. Also inferior and not magnetic.It's not that it specifically tells you to go forth and make reflavored blasts, but mechanically, it is now very easy to do so (other than deciding which infusions go with it, which you can do by just making an isomorphism to one of the current elements). You simply declare something a simple physical blast that deals slashing damage and is isomorphic to earth, and you have done all the work necessary to make a "sword blast".Ah, yeah that's sorta what I was thinking. I mean, worst comes to worst, I'll say the swords are made of gold. Softer than steel, so an explanation for why it deals less damage than metal blast, and it's not magnetic.
Also, I love homebrewing, so if you need someone to specifically give your GM the OK to go forth and make reflavored blasts, I'm glad to do so.Haha thanks. It'll be funny to see his face when I tell him you said that.
All this talk about a sword blast makes me think of Zi Yu from Feng Shen Ji
He forms swords out of thin air and can telepathically move them.
So I read the mindblade magus archeype.
Question: Can she spend her points on anything other than manifest her mindblades?
So I read the mindblade magus archeype.
Question: Can she spend her points on anything other than manifest her mindblades?
Sure can! Just not the stuff you traded for the archetype, but anything else. Otherwise those points beyond like 3 wouldn't be worth anything.
Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?
Mark I love telekinetic invisibility. it is awesome!
Yeah, pretty awesome, right?
Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?
He can still do it if he wants (unlike overwhelming soul), but it opens up a possible and effective way to build it to minimize burn entirely and potentially even go for Wisdom instead of Con (in addition to getting accuracy boosts without burn, the defense doesn't need any burn to scale, also). It's all up to you!
Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?He can still do it if he wants (unlike overwhelming soul), but it opens up a possible and effective way to build it to minimize burn entirely and potentially even go for Wisdom instead of Con (in addition to getting accuracy boosts without burn, the defense doesn't need any burn to scale, also). It's all up to you!
Where do the accuracy boosts come from?
Did figure out that an 11th level Elemental Ascetic can flurry Dispel Magics, so that's a pretty interesting niche
Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?He can still do it if he wants (unlike overwhelming soul), but it opens up a possible and effective way to build it to minimize burn entirely and potentially even go for Wisdom instead of Con (in addition to getting accuracy boosts without burn, the defense doesn't need any burn to scale, also). It's all up to you!Where do the accuracy boosts come from?
Did figure out that an 11th level Elemental Ascetic can flurry Dispel Magics, so that's a pretty interesting niche
From flurry. And yeah, flurrying substance infusion is by far where it's at; it's incredibly useful!
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From flurry. And yeah, flurrying substance infusion is by far where it's at; it's incredibly useful!Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?He can still do it if he wants (unlike overwhelming soul), but it opens up a possible and effective way to build it to minimize burn entirely and potentially even go for Wisdom instead of Con (in addition to getting accuracy boosts without burn, the defense doesn't need any burn to scale, also). It's all up to you!Where do the accuracy boosts come from?
Did figure out that an 11th level Elemental Ascetic can flurry Dispel Magics, so that's a pretty interesting niche
Nice!
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From flurry. And yeah, flurrying substance infusion is by far where it's at; it's incredibly useful!Why does the elemental ascetic not get Elemental Overflow. I mean, it retains burn, but now has zero reason to ever accept burn. Am I missing something?He can still do it if he wants (unlike overwhelming soul), but it opens up a possible and effective way to build it to minimize burn entirely and potentially even go for Wisdom instead of Con (in addition to getting accuracy boosts without burn, the defense doesn't need any burn to scale, also). It's all up to you!Where do the accuracy boosts come from?
Did figure out that an 11th level Elemental Ascetic can flurry Dispel Magics, so that's a pretty interesting nicheNice!
Seriously, Mark. Do you own an actual Ring of Sustenance?
Can someone share some details about the Witch archetype?
Any psychic spells for the old spellcasting classes?
Can someone share some details about the Witch archetype?
Any psychic spells for the old spellcasting classes?
Then we have the Ley Line Guardian:
- Ley Line Powered: alters the witch's spellcasting to be a spontaneous spellcaster like a sorcerer.
- Conduit Surge: replacing hexes and the familiar, the Ley Line Guardian gains an ability to increase her effective caster level.
Yeah, there are spells for other classes, many of them are.
Sorcerer/Wizard (for example) gets 4 for 1st level, 6 for 2nd, 9 for 3rd, 8 for 4th, 9 for 5th, 5 for 6th, 7 for 7th, 1 for 8th and 1 for 9th level.
Druid (for another example) gets only 2 for 3rd and 1 for 6th level spells.
Oh. Witch without a familiar. Always like those archetypes.
Can someone share some details about the Witch archetype?
Any psychic spells for the old spellcasting classes?** spoiler omitted **
Yeah, there are spells for other classes, many of them are.
Sorcerer/Wizard (for example) gets 4 for 1st level, 6 for 2nd, 9 for 3rd, 8 for 4th, 9 for 5th, 5 for 6th, 7 for 7th, 1 for 8th and 1 for 9th level.
Druid (for another example) gets only 2 for 3rd and 1 for 6th level spells.
Does the witch lose all her hexes?
I'm curious... Can an aerokineticist suffocate people? If so, when do they get it?
It's a 6th level wild talent for aether air and water.
I'm curious... Can an aerokineticist suffocate people? If so, when do they get it?Aether, air, and water kineticists can all suffocate people, by either force choking them, making the air around them unbreathable, or surrounding their head with water. They can pick that particular wild talent up at 12th level.
Cool! I figured those would be the ones to have it if any of them did; air just seemed like the best character fit. I'll see if there are any lower level thematic fits when I get the book.
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Do aerokinteticists find others' lack of faith disturbing?
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Do aerokinteticists find others' lack of faith disturbing?
I'd go with aetherkineticist for that particular effect, personally.
Any new ways of not dying from old age?
Like migration to a new body? If so, who can do it?
How does an Aehterkineticist Kinetic Blade work? Form a telekinetically bound mass of stuff and wallop people with it? I like the image of forming together a weapon out of whatever is at hand. water sword, sand sword, mashed potato sword...
In the playtest it was that you surrounded an object your holding with telekinetic energy making it hit super hard and with amazing accuracy. Not sure if that's the stayed the same.
I dunno about other ways, but the Blood Kineticist doesn't die of old age if it hits level 20. Probably not what you're looking for though.
Question, that isn't all the capstone does right?
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Any new ways of not dying from old age?
Like migration to a new body? If so, who can do it?
There's a ninth level Psychic spell to permanently swap bodies.