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It feels like a kind of Mike Mignola moment. It bends the genre, forces everybody to blink once, and that's really really good.
I like the Mignola comparison. It clicks.
Of course this AP could still be pushed even further until it winds up in Grant Morrison territory!
But that might still be a bit too down to earth to be really Morrison-esque.
The guy's a little out there.
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I like the Mignola comparison. It clicks.Of course this AP could still be pushed even further until it winds up in Grant Morrison territory!
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As far as I can tell, you just turned reality and Reign of Winter into some sort of Moebius strip.
Oh, the cat people will get their due in #72's Bestiary, which exclusively features FELINES!!! That Adam's doing one fine job representing enthusiastic pet owners in the AP backmatter articles, isn't he?
So what you're saying... is that first you're taking the PCs to WWI-era Earth, and then the entire sixth module is going to be about catfolk? Man, trying to see how far you can bend the fanbase before it breaks off, aren't ya?
Hm. Well, I have to say that I'm definitely a fan. I love dimension hopping. Wish we could keep the hut, but I don't think Baba will let us. And I bet she still out-levels us.
I'm curious...how come the last chapter hasn't been named and even a month out we don't have a cover image for any of them?
The entire idea sounds amazing, so I'm super looking forward to things, but I'm curious if there are scheduling issues.
Very, very pleased to see this appearing. Surprised no one has yet mentioned the oldskool Dragon magazine adventure ( that's right folks, before there was a Dungeon) City beyond the Gate (ok, so it was London in the 1980's but I'm pretty sure the PC's had to retrieve St Cuthbert's club or something) or the latter part of the computer game from the late 80's Bard's Tale III that pitted your high level fantasy party against machine gun wielding soldiers from Earth (can't remember but I think they were circa WWII Nazis?!?!)
So, go for it. And I really feel for those folk who find this a huge turn off. I empathise. I just can't wait to see how Paizo handle the material. Very creative and not at all gonzo for my tastes. I just never really got the whole Rasputin thing. Except for a brief disco revival thang in the mid 90's. Even performed Car Wash in a (no) Talent Show. The winners that night included Rasputin in a freakin medley!!! Cheaters!
Baaaack on topic. I think this is a fantastic opportunity for GMs to widen player experience, and engenders many adventures in an exciting time period on a strange and fantastical world with exotic cultures, a myriad of mysterious creatures and eerie technology. And pretzels, kangaroos and telegraphs.
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OMG!
If Rasputin is related to Baba Yaga then makes him related to Iggwilv and Iuz! And an in law (in chaos?) of Graz'zt.
OMG! Paizo, Brandon, you guys ROCK! Wow!
May your children grow up to be supermodel rocket scientists, your puppies grow up to be wolfhounds and your kittens grow up to become despots of small warm tropical islands!
Bravo!
It's literally 8:50 AM in New York and I am opening a bottle of wine and grilling a steak to celebrate.
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Very, very pleased to see this appearing. Surprised no one has yet mentioned the oldskool Dragon magazine adventure ( that's right folks, before there was a Dungeon) City beyond the Gate
I mentioned this very adventure in the defense of the idea and pedigree of world hopping in summer (August?) of last year.
I believe James Jacobs said he liked the Robert Schroeck's work.
I would look for my post but I'm busy eating steak right now. (see above post)
Since when is Iggwilv related to Baba Yaga? Don't recall that in Canon anywhere.
As for the City Beyond the gate, you know that Dragon did an article on the insides of Baba Yaga's Hut, right?
Mapping out the internal links in the hut was what introduced me to tessaracts.
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He did say "if" Rasputin is related. ;)
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Since when is Iggwilv related to Baba Yaga? Don't recall that in Canon anywhere.
As for the City Beyond the gate, you know that Dragon did an article on the insides of Baba Yaga's Hut, right?
==Aelryinth
I believe that in Greyhawk lore its now considered that Baba Yaga is not Iggwilv, but rather that the Witch Queen of Perrenland is Grandma Gnarlybones daughter, some say 'adoptive daughter' but the more adherent Greyhawk lore keepers are pushing the idea they are of the blood.
And yes I HAVE Roger E Moore's and other articles about the Dancing Hut. They are next to Ed Greenwood's issues on 'The Politics of Hell.'
BONUS XP to players who cast Tasha's Hideous Laughter at Rasputin and make it stick!
Because kids, (Na)Tasha IS Iggwilv.
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Since when is Iggwilv related to Baba Yaga? Don't recall that in Canon anywhere.
As for the City Beyond the gate, you know that Dragon did an article on the insides of Baba Yaga's Hut, right?
Mapping out the internal links in the hut was what introduced me to tessaracts.
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She's supposed to be Baba Yaga's adopted daughter, this was in some Dragon issue (iirc the final Paizo issue).
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In the late 80's there was speculation that Baba Yaga, Finnish Louhi, Iggwilv (and in some very rare cases the Greek Sibyl) were all possibly linked if not one and the same woman in differing guises. (As an aside I was always curious why Morgan le Fay never made this list.)
This later was postulated that Natasha, aka Tasha, aka Iggwilv is actually the daughter of Baba Yaga and not the same being.
I believe Gary Gygax used Louhi as a template for Iggwiv.
The final volume of Reign of Winter hasn't hit the solicitation cycle yet. And, there are cover images of the first two volumes of this Adventure Path. Check them out! Andrew did a great job of designing the look of this AP.
Thanks for the quick reply, Adam! They do look great. Just figured it was a little late in the game to not have the final title released.
IIRC, a Paizonian mentioned all the titles of the Reign of Winter AP sometime last summer/early autumn. According to my notes, the last RoW AP installment will be The Witch Queen Revenge.
I don't know if that refers to Elvanna or to Baba Yaga herself.
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Oh, the cat people will get their due in #72's Bestiary, which exclusively features FELINES!!! That Adam's doing one fine job representing enthusiastic pet owners in the AP backmatter articles, isn't he?So what you're saying... is that first you're taking the PCs to WWI-era Earth, and then the entire sixth module is going to be about catfolk? Man, trying to see how far you can bend the fanbase before it breaks off, aren't ya?
I suddenly envision this conversation in an OotS comic strip.
In the late 80's there was speculation that Baba Yaga, Finnish Louhi, Iggwilv (and in some very rare cases the Greek Sibyl) were all possibly linked if not one and the same woman in differing guises. (As an aside I was always curious why Morgan le Fay never made this list.)
This later was postulated that Natasha, aka Tasha, aka Iggwilv is actually the daughter of Baba Yaga and not the same being.
I believe Gary Gygax used Louhi as a template for Iggwiv.
tasha was the mirror of opposition clone of Iggwilv, IIRC?
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Someday I will do a joint cosplay with my mom, so I can be my avatar and she can be my Baba.
...Mikey!
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I saw the title to this, and thought "Must be a joke." Then I read it. Then I blacked out for a second from all the awesome in that description.
I'm getting this AP. And I am gonna run the hell out of it. I need to start working on my Russian accent.
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Hate to be a dissenting voice but Earth in 1918? Really?
I'm a subscriber and won't cancel because of this but I'm not a fan of mixing genres to this extent. Appreciate that folklore puts Baba Yaga's home in Russia but I'm sceptical about how much of this AP module I will use. Thankfully the quality of writing and plot with the APs means I can hopefully re-skin whatever is in this but it's a bit too much for my tastes.
Clearly from the posts above others are loving this and I'm not going to argue with them but wanted to add my own thoughts as well.
I just subscribed to the AP line due to this book. Well, and the other books in this AP. :)
(Honestly not trying to start something with the guy above me. It's all a coincidence of timing.)
One thing which I find interesting is, that by very nature of the module, we'll probably see high-level Russian soldiers. That subverts that famous article on the Alexandrian website quite a bit, eh?
Proto Spetsnaz are always a possibility. :)
I just subscribed to the AP line due to this book. Well, and the other books in this AP. :)
(Honestly not trying to start something with the guy above me. It's all a coincidence of timing.)
Absolutely. Each to their own. Just wanted to express my own personal preference.
The quality of writing in the AP line and the detail of the settings has been superb pretty much throughout so I wouldn't throw my toys out of the pram for one book that didn't fit with my own preferences. I know there are a lot of people who love genre mixing (including the late creator of the world's most popular RPG) but I'm not one of them.
If you are new to the line, though, check out the back issues and pick up as many AP issues as you can. I would say anyone running fantasy RPs can use something from them. Doubtless I will also find something I can use in PF71.
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Wait, what? Russia? REALLY? OMG?! This.. wow... I want this campaign. This is a level of crazy that fits me and my group perfectly. We'll be having a blast with this campaign.. AND THEN WE GET TO GO TO RUSSIA?! Hahahahaha. Wow. Paizo, I friggin' love you guys.
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It occurs to me that the characters won't think of this as going to "Earth." If they ask the locals, they'll be told it's the planet Zemlya. :D
I'd suggest that the Golarion astronomers name the odd planet LV-426. ;)
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I had better see an entry for the M1911 for 20th century weapons. ;)
This sounds like a lot of fun and very creative, also involving for players who are willing to give it a try. I think this series is at its best when it takes big risks; the pirate campaign certainly fit that mold. The current path feels, by contrast, a little safe and self-congratulatory (but that is a topic for another thread, obviously). People who prefer less extravagant myth-making certainly have other options. For me, I hope this is a sign of more surefooted creative leaps to come.
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My players are currently doing the Pirate campaign (Skull and Shackles), and we're loving it so far. This new adventure path sounds like it has enough crazy in it that it'll fit my group perfectly.
I'm still hoping Paizo does either a Numeria Adventure Path and/or an Alkenstar/Nex/Geb one. I love that area's lore.
This is gonna rule! Can't wait! I'm gonna hafta start perfecting my Russian accent!
The Player's Guide for the AP specifically states that the Linguistics skill is almost vital as the PC's will be traveling to several areas where Common/Taldan isn't..
I think he is referring to text in the Player Companion People of the North. This book has two pages titled "Player's Guide to Reign of Winter", mostly consisting of campaign traits.
Adam Daigle has confirmed in this thread that language was an important consideration in this AP. I can confirm a similar consideration for this volume.
I was kinda uneasy about this. But i think this is going to be my first ever one of these that I run.
I think he is referring to text in the Player Companion People of the North. This book has two pages titled "Player's Guide to Reign of Winter", mostly consisting of campaign traits.
Yes, but it also gives information about skills & other character choices that will be important in the AP, and Linguistics is mentioned quite specifically.
Adam Daigle has confirmed in this thread that language was an important consideration in this AP. I can confirm a similar consideration for this volume.
Very good, товарищ Ходжа!