
The Minis Maniac |

Alzrius wrote:Not sure, but it is probably Swiss. ;)Dragon78 wrote:As long as the book has artifacts that serve good, chaos, and law and not just evil I will be happy.Yes, but what sort of artifact could drive a man to be...neutral?
Hey there is nothing wrong with the Swiss, they make awesome cheese, knives, and watches.

Justin Franklin |

Justin Franklin wrote:Hey there is nothing wrong with the Swiss, they make awesome cheese, knives, and watches.Alzrius wrote:Not sure, but it is probably Swiss. ;)Dragon78 wrote:As long as the book has artifacts that serve good, chaos, and law and not just evil I will be happy.Yes, but what sort of artifact could drive a man to be...neutral?
So the artifact is either cheese, a knife, a watch, or chocolate.

The Minis Maniac |

The Minis Maniac wrote:So the artifact is either cheese, a knife, a watch, or chocolate.Justin Franklin wrote:Hey there is nothing wrong with the Swiss, they make awesome cheese, knives, and watches.Alzrius wrote:Not sure, but it is probably Swiss. ;)Dragon78 wrote:As long as the book has artifacts that serve good, chaos, and law and not just evil I will be happy.Yes, but what sort of artifact could drive a man to be...neutral?
Must....... refrain........ from......... nazi....... gold........ reference.......

Steelfiredragon |
I asked this question a long time ago in the ask James Jacob all questions thread. After this book was announce it never accoured to ask it here.
So without further due and to avoid any and all stabbings from the High Queen of stab or a stabbing from the court of stab(if there is one), will that famous Taldan Bard **WorldBreaker** be in this book??
Worldbreaker sings..... you get out of the way and don't stop running.

The Red Raven |

The Minis Maniac wrote:So the artifact is either cheese, a knife, a watch, or chocolate.Justin Franklin wrote:Hey there is nothing wrong with the Swiss, they make awesome cheese, knives, and watches.Alzrius wrote:Not sure, but it is probably Swiss. ;)Dragon78 wrote:As long as the book has artifacts that serve good, chaos, and law and not just evil I will be happy.Yes, but what sort of artifact could drive a man to be...neutral?

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Steelfiredragon wrote:I wont be giving my moeny to the folks at paizo on this book.
I'll be to busy saving it to afford the advanced races from paizo.
so that ought to teach the folks at paizo
Is this sarcasm??
If not, what exactly are you hoping to teach Paizo?
Maybe he is saving others people money to buy the book, that way he can buy the book and not use his money. :)

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The poor Swiss, they didn't really have much of an army and were wedged between Germany, Austria and Italy. With quickly-conquered France for the last border.
They did their best to dodge annihilation and have been cursed ever since as moral cowards, even by countries who sat and twiddled their thumbs for years while Britain was being bombed to pieces.
And, in any case, that war was quite a long time ago now, wasn't it? Are we really supposed to judge people on their grandparents' decisions?

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The poor Swiss, they didn't really have much of an army and were wedged between Germany, Austria and Italy. With quickly-conquered France for the last border.
They did their best to dodge annihilation and have been cursed ever since as moral cowards, even by countries who sat and twiddled their thumbs for years while Britain was being bombed to pieces.
And, in any case, that war was quite a long time ago now, wasn't it? Are we really supposed to judge people on their grandparents' decisions?
Your quality of chocolate means you are forgiven for all things for ever. Least by most women. :)

Fredrik |

Steelfiredragon wrote:I wont be giving my moeny to the folks at paizo on this book.
I'll be to busy saving it to afford the advanced races from paizo.
so that ought to teach the folks at paizo
Is this sarcasm??
If not, what exactly are you hoping to teach Paizo?
He's saying that they're twice as awesome as they need to be, since they'd get all of his money either way. ;)

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |

James, will there be more detail on the Relics of Kazavon than previously found in other materials (that I'll refrain from naming to protect the innocent)?
We did a whole 6 page article on the relics of Kazavon in Pathfinder #12. While that's the source material for what's in here, it is not given more space. PFRPG updates and other additions, but not a discussion as lengthy as the original article offers. That said, I made sure we'll get a look at numerous relics we've never seen before, so don't think there won't be plenty new for you.

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |

Any recommendations on how to add/balance artifacts in a game in this book? That's always been the toughest thing for me.
Yup. In every major artifact entry in fact. Each write-up includes a ramifications and considerations sections. Some times it's as basic as "This is powerful, so if you put it in your game and your PCs get it... good luck with all that." Other times it's more like "Okay, so you've decided to open up the Pandora's box of time travel. Here we go...." Ocassionally its something like "Okay, so you're using this. So then you're going to also want to use X, Y, Z, and check out 1, 2, and 3." And some times its "Here's why it'd be awesome to drop this artifact in at 1st level."
Don't worry, for the first time I can think of, we're giving you instruction manuals for these game changers.

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |
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Dragon78 wrote:Makes me wonder how that Angel got his information without getting captured or killed.A I recall, didn't that angel ** spoiler omitted ** I'm definitely curious to see the book that came out of THAT planar field trip.
There's a good bit about it. Didn't work out too well for Tabris. But some times, after seeing all the sides of a conflict, the best answer is "I don't want any piece of any of this."

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |

Is this just already published artifacts like Blackaxe and Chellan, The Sword of Greed? Or will there be new Artifacts as well?
Additionally, will we finally get full stats for the Alara'hai (seven swords of sin/conviction) or are we still stuck with just Chellan and Asheia?
I believe every artifact in here has at least been mentioned before, though this is the first time many are being stated up - the Bloodstones of Arazni for example. Several of the cooler artifacts from Pathfinder Society and "blink and you missed them" style artifacts passingly mentioned from older Pathfinder Campaign Setting books show up in here.
As for the Seven Swords of Sin. Yup. They're all in here.

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |

will the seven swords of sin be in????
and will the holy avenger be in the boook too along with that sword forged by Iomedae???
which leads me to wonder.
are there seven swords of virtue somewhere in Golarion???
There is a more prominent Iomedae artifact in here, but not her sword. And we've never talked about "seven swords of virtue." Not saying there's not, but since the seven sins of Thassilon and the seven virtues of rule are largely one in the same, I could see the argument that the seven swords of sin are, after a fashion, the seven swords of virtue. But honestly, we've yet to take a ramble down that path in any canon product.

deinol |

Don't worry, for the first time I can think of, we're giving you instruction manuals for these game changers.
Classic Treasures Revisited comes close, with some good advice on stuff like the Staff of the Magi and Well of Worlds. So are these legendary artifacts a step above those?

F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |
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Classic Treasures Revisited comes close, with some good advice on stuff like the Staff of the Magi and Well of Worlds. So are these legendary artifacts a step above those?
The ramifications sections which is included in (I believe) every entry hits on top tier considerations GMs will want to mull over before including these artifacts in his campaign. They are not meant for PCs and don't include advice on how to get even more power out of these already super-powered magic items.

Generic Villain |
Is the Crimson throne an actual cursed item? will it be featured?
Nope, not magic. Actually it's been a while since I read through CotCT, but I don't think it's even that cursed. Korvosa was doing pretty well for itself until the recent unpleasantness.
When will we get a complete list of what artifacts are in this book?
When it comes to books like these, I don't think Paizo's ever released a full rundown of what's inside. Don't expect a table of contents preview in other words.

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Okay, being a huge fan of PFS and also of ancient relics of power, I have to ask the following:
How much of this book will be approved for PFS play? I know the liklihood of a player running around with an Excalibur-like weapon is highly unlikely? But, being able to craft a weapon that has some history to it would be appealing to me.
Tarrintino

Rogar Valertis |

Okay, being a huge fan of PFS and also of ancient relics of power, I have to ask the following:
How much of this book will be approved for PFS play? I know the liklihood of a player running around with an Excalibur-like weapon is highly unlikely? But, being able to craft a weapon that has some history to it would be appealing to me.
Tarrintino
Well, if you craft a weapon the story IS that you, fabled master of the forge, crafted a powerful weapon...
It's how you gathered the components for the forging that can give you a whole different deal storywise. But for that you don't need a book, just use your mind and wrote the story down yourself.
But I guess I don't get your question, artifacts are clearly beyond the scope (and ballance) of PFS play, and as far as I know you can't craft artifacts anyway (maybe when epic level book comes out.... but again, beyond the scope of PFS, considering you have to retire characters well before 20th level).

zergtitan |

I thought about using the information for the Axe of the Dwarven Lords in order for my dwarven led party of explorers to find it in a treasure trove or in the hands of an enemy in the throne room of a sky citadel my party has discovered and is exploring. So has anyone got their PDF or copy yet, and wishes to give some detail that not in the sections of the core rulebook or ultimate equipment guide?

Joseph Wilson |

I thought about using the information for the Axe of the Dwarven Lords in order for my dwarven led party of explorers to find it in a treasure trove or in the hands of an enemy in the throne room of a sky citadel my party has discovered and is exploring. So has anyone got their PDF or copy yet, and wishes to give some detail that not in the sections of the core rulebook or ultimate equipment guide?
Books don't start shipping til Monday or Tuesday.