Carrion Crown is the Adventure Path that starts in February, after Serpent's Skull ends. It's set in Ustalav. Where the horror lives.Book sounds awesome! More undead is always a good thing in my mind.
But...Carrion Crown? This I had not heard.
I wish the Revisited books were either their own line, or part of RPG. Ah, well. That's what the sidecart is for.
This sounds awesome :D
Between this, Classic Horrors Revisited, and the Carrion Crown adventure path, horror enthusiasts are set for life. Wonderful stuff!
Just askin.... Is there any overlap between this and Classic Monsters Revisited? Will Undead Revisited highlight 10 different monsters?
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As far as I can tell from the description of this book, there won't be any overlap. Classic Monsters Revisited features bugbears, gnolls, goblins, hobgoblins, kobolds, lizardfolk, minotaurs, ogres, orcs, and trolls while this book focuses exclusively on undead critters (minus ghosts, ghouls, mummies, vampires, skeletons, and zombies, all of which were featured in Classic Horrors Revisited).
Carrion Crown is the Adventure Path that starts in February, after Serpent's Skull ends. It's set in Ustalav. Where the horror lives.Book sounds awesome! More undead is always a good thing in my mind.
But...Carrion Crown? This I had not heard.
Where the horror lives.
Nah, you're thinking of Antlers, Oklahoma. They have chupacabres, and multiple Mammy Grauls.
As far as I can tell from the description of this book, there won't be any overlap. Classic Monsters Revisited features bugbears, gnolls, goblins, hobgoblins, kobolds, lizardfolk, minotaurs, ogres, orcs, and trolls while this book focuses exclusively on undead critters (minus ghosts, ghouls, mummies, vampires, skeletons, and zombies, all of which were featured in Classic Horrors Revisited).
Oops. I meant Classic Horrors Revisited.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine there would be any overlap.
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There will never be overlap in the Revisted series. That would be stupid on Paizo's part.
Just askin.... Is there any overlap between this and Classic Monsters Revisited? Will Undead Revisited highlight 10 different monsters?
First of all... one thing that I always try to tell my authors is to avoid statements like that unless you're 100% sure that you won't be painting yourself into a corner. It's generally bad to say, "This dungeon is the DEADLIEST dungeon in the world," because then you have to make sure every other dungeon is not as deadly as that one. Likewise, it's bad to say "This city has more halflings living in it than any other," because then you have to track halfling populations for EVERY city.
In other words... saying our Revisited lines will NEVER overlap is not something we'll ever promise. Some day, we might do something that does incorporate entries from older books in this line—who knows?
In any event, though, there will not be any overlap between "Classic Horrors" and "Classic Undead."
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as well as the villainous ravener, otherwise known as an undead dragon!
How has nobody else noticed this part yet? Finally, Pathfinder-ized dracoliches! Or, at least a really nasty undead version of a dragon to terrorize PCs with.
(I know there's nothing mechanically stopping a Pathfinder dragon from having the lich template if it can create a phylactery, but still, dracoliches were fairly different from conventional D&D liches, so it'll be nice to see something along those lines.)
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In other words... saying our Revisited lines will NEVER overlap is not something we'll ever promise. Some day, we might do something that does incorporate entries from older books in this line—who knows?
Thankfully, I'm not on the payroll, and haven't a hope of being ON the payroll, so I can make whatever hyperbolic claims and start whatever wild rumors I want! :D
(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)
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as well as the villainous ravener, otherwise known as an undead dragon!How has nobody else noticed this part yet? Finally, Pathfinder-ized dracoliches! Or, at least a really nasty undead version of a dragon to terrorize PCs with.
(I know there's nothing mechanically stopping a Pathfinder dragon from having the lich template if it can create a phylactery, but still, dracoliches were fairly different from conventional D&D liches, so it'll be nice to see something along those lines.)
In Pathfinder, a dragon can become a lich using the lich template.
The ravener is NOT a dracolich. It IS an undead dragon, but it's something different than a dracolich.
It'll be revealed in all its glory in Bestiary 2.
Can I create one with the create greater undead spell?
Nope, you need the create awesomer undead epic spell at a minimum, I'm sure.
In other words... saying our Revisited lines will NEVER overlap is not something we'll ever promise. Some day, we might do something that does incorporate entries from older books in this line—who knows?
Thankfully, I'm not on the payroll, and haven't a hope of being ON the payroll, so I can make whatever hyperbolic claims and start whatever wild rumors I want! :D
(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)
I heard they're planning to do an Adventure Path where all the adventures are based on Beatles-songs.
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I heard they're planning to do an Adventure Path where all the adventures are based on Beatles-songs.
In other words... saying our Revisited lines will NEVER overlap is not something we'll ever promise. Some day, we might do something that does incorporate entries from older books in this line—who knows?
Thankfully, I'm not on the payroll, and haven't a hope of being ON the payroll, so I can make whatever hyperbolic claims and start whatever wild rumors I want! :D
(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)
'Sgt. Asgetrion's Lonely Hellfire Club Band'? ;)
Carrion Crown is the Adventure Path that starts in February, after Serpent's Skull ends. It's set in Ustalav. Where the horror lives.Book sounds awesome! More undead is always a good thing in my mind.
But...Carrion Crown? This I had not heard.
Good news! Hammer Horror, here comes Paizo!
But what is the 'graveknight', and does it even have a writeup as yet?
Carrion Crown is the Adventure Path that starts in February, after Serpent's Skull ends. It's set in Ustalav. Where the horror lives.Book sounds awesome! More undead is always a good thing in my mind.
But...Carrion Crown? This I had not heard.
Good news! Hammer Horror, here comes Paizo!
But what is the 'graveknight', and does it even have a writeup as yet?
It's Paizo's version of the Death Knight. The write up is in the Bestiary section of one of the Council of Thieves books...I think it's part 3.
The graveknight is an OGL deathknight. It's in PF Adventure Path #26, and it's really cool.
Edit: Doh! Beaten to the punch!
It's in...curses, beaten to the post again!
Carrion Crown is the Adventure Path that starts in February, after Serpent's Skull ends. It's set in Ustalav. Where the horror lives.Book sounds awesome! More undead is always a good thing in my mind.
But...Carrion Crown? This I had not heard.
Good news! Hammer Horror, here comes Paizo!
Ah, the joy of hearing Hammer's name again:)
Talomyr, Mister Neale, Mister Pett, thank you all for the responses. I guess I know now what my next Paizo purchase will be.
Any chance we'll see some rules on playing undead, or some undead "races" or templates on a power level equivalent to the core races?
Does the monster-class concept need to be in the OGL in order create our own monster classes?
What you write for your own game doesn't involve the OGL at all.
I would just like to say that my monster is in. Take that, other freelancers!
(this just gives Sean more time to beat it up)
I would just like to say that my monster is in. Take that, other freelancers!
(this just gives Sean more time to beat it up)
Bah. Showoff. :)
OK, this is a definite want for me. I'm a big fan of Ravenloft. But I'd rather use Arthaus's Tarokka deck then a Harrow deck in Carrion Crown.
For those working on this book I have a question, will there be information on making the various undead discussed from other monsters? I am thinking of making a hag into a wight with as much crossover in special abilities to vex my players. Will this book help at all on that front? The book is going my want list regardless but I am curious as it will add more value to me when I purchase it.
(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)
Hey, that actually sounds pretty interesting.
Say, any chance that this book will have undead-specific prestige classes or stuff like that? Savage Species and Libris Mortis both did, as I recall, and I liked them quite a bit.
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(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)Hey, that actually sounds pretty interesting.
Say, any chance that this book will have undead-specific prestige classes or stuff like that? Savage Species and Libris Mortis both did, as I recall, and I liked them quite a bit.
Following the vein of previous books, I would guess no.
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(Rumor has it that we'll be seeing Classic Vermin Revisited in 2012!)Hey, that actually sounds pretty interesting.
Say, any chance that this book will have undead-specific prestige classes or stuff like that? Savage Species and Libris Mortis both did, as I recall, and I liked them quite a bit.
No chance at all. Prestige classes aren't really appropriate for the Revisited line of books.
A Kekai Kotaki cover piece? In any event, it looks awesome!