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Rite Publishing wrote:I just thought I would mention we have posted our 18th Faces of the Tarnished Souk in support of this product.And now our 21st Faces of the Tarnished Souk!
Are you guys going to be making a combined book, or are you planning on making more? I'll be running this adventure soon enough and would love to know what future resources I'll need to hold out for before running it.
Also, when can we expect a write-up on the Dream Horrors?
| Aaron aka Itchy |
Rite Publishing policy is to never comment about plans for future books. This has to do with that I am the only full-time Rite Pub employee, and the rest are all freelancers, who have day jobs; The second is that when I do compilation books for print it has a roughly 4 month solicitation cycle.
I'm glad I found this before I posted the same question. I'll just make sure that I am setting aside a little money each month while waiting for my players to finish The Shattered Gates of Slaughtergarde and The Red Hand of Doom. If there is a compilation of Faces of the Tarnished Souk then I will purchase it. If not, I will just buy the individual documents and make my own compilation.
-Aaron
Which reminds me that I have other Rite Publishing books to finish reading and reviewing...
| Ezekiel Shanoax, the Stormchild RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16 |
Hey fans -- If you love Coliseum Morpheuon and would like to read more about the wild realm of Dream and the bizarre characters who (I think) inhabit it, please check out Rite Publishing's Kickstarter for a full-length novel Lost in Dream based on the brilliant Coliseum Morpheuon and its offshoots.
| Ezekiel Shanoax, the Stormchild RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16 |
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Hey Rite! I want to say first off, I really think you did a fantastic job on this setting. I am a huge fan of the Dimension of Dreams and this is a perfect addition to my dream-heavy campaign.
My one issue/complaint/thing I'm wondering about, and do not take this overtly hostile as that is not my intention here, but the Dreamlands is essentially based on Lovecraft's dream cycle - and I've noticed almost nothing of that, save for some brief references confirming that the Coliseum is indeed in THOSE dreamlands. I was hoping for some attachment to the dream lore, monsters, NPCs, fluff from the actual dreamlands here, connections to some of those stories, etc. and I found this extremely lacking. It's a great setting, but it could have easily just been in its own fantasy world and not 'the Dimension of Dreams' that Pathfinder has created, which is inherently the same Dreamlands as the Dream-quest and other stories. I suppose I was just a little let down here, and was wondering why you removed the setting so far from its source. Any particular reason?
| terraleon |
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As one of the contributors to this setting/adventure, I can tell you that there is some connection-- the Men of Leng, for instance, are mentioned, and their slave ships do arrive on the docks. There is another link, there as well, in the Tarnished Souk (although that's subtle, and a related book) but I promise it's there in the Ghoulish Cliffs, the Silver Key, and in Tarrec, mentioned in the 5-room adventure add on, Down the Rabbit Hole.
We wanted the Dreamlands vast and while we wanted there to be links to the Dreamquest for Unknown Kadath, and I feel like there are, we didn't want to drop it right into those spaces. Additionally, this was 2009, so the amount of Pathfinder on hand to augment it was different than what's there now.
EDIT: You're not going to see a lot of response here from Rite for a while, as the publisher died last summer and his wife is finishing up projects, but just had their daughter arrive in the fall, and she's pretty busy. However, Clinton Boomer, Wicht, and I were all involved in this project-- with the lion's share being Wicht, then Boomer, then me. The 5-room was Boomer, Matt Banach, and myself. The Tarnished Souk was Matt and Justin Sluder, and myself.
Wicht
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Hey Rite! I want to say first off, I really think you did a fantastic job on this setting. I am a huge fan of the Dimension of Dreams and this is a perfect addition to my dream-heavy campaign.
My one issue/complaint/thing I'm wondering about, and do not take this overtly hostile as that is not my intention here, but the Dreamlands is essentially based on Lovecraft's dream cycle - and I've noticed almost nothing of that, save for some brief references confirming that the Coliseum is indeed in THOSE dreamlands. I was hoping for some attachment to the dream lore, monsters, NPCs, fluff from the actual dreamlands here, connections to some of those stories, etc. and I found this extremely lacking. It's a great setting, but it could have easily just been in its own fantasy world and not 'the Dimension of Dreams' that Pathfinder has created, which is inherently the same Dreamlands as the Dream-quest and other stories. I suppose I was just a little let down here, and was wondering why you removed the setting so far from its source. Any particular reason?
Hey - thanks for the question... Sorry for not responding sooner, I don't spend as much time on these boards as I probably should, and it slipped by me.
Like you, I am a fan of Lovecraft's dream-cycle. It should very much be assumed that this plane of dreams and that plane of dreams is one and the same. That being said, when this was published, Paizo had not yet done much of their own with the setting, and it is hard to use material before it is actually published. We were kinda breaking some new ground.
I would also somewhat argue against the idea that we removed the setting far from its original source. The dream-realm is a vast place, and there are many stories that could be told within it, not all of them are going to feature Lovecraftian horrors and elder gods. Most of the dream-cycle writings of Lovecraft have more to do with wonder then horror, with dream being the one realm where men could stand on a more equal footing with beings such as Nyarlothatep, and where the beautiful cities were reflections of the aspirations of mortals. In fact I have just been relistening (via audio-books) to Lovecrafts dream-cycle works, such as The White Ship, and am somewhat struck by the difference in tone between those works and the other works Lovecraft is more often associated with. But I think that the whole sea of dreams envisioned in The Coliseum is very much in keeping with the setting pictured in The White Ship and even Dreamquest.
One of the books that shaped my own particular take on the dreamlands was Brian Lumley's Iced on Aran, which I might recommend. Lumley is a disciple of Lovecraft, and his dream-realm is very much drawn from Lovecrafts, but Lumley used it for a more pulp-adventure style of work in Iced. All of which is to say that the source material is broad enough to tell a variety of stories while still staying true.