However, we tend to play with a 6 PC party, and I was wondering to which extend I would have to beef up the monsters for that.
I still hold that you really don't need to do anything, in the long term.
In the first couple levels, adding 50% more hp would keep the encounters reasonably challenging.
After that, the extra division of XP will settle your PCs at about 1 level lower than designed for (and they will stay there), balancing out the extra numbers in most cases. The extra actions available may call for a couple extra changes for final encounters (adding a couple minions), but that's about it.
Trying to keep up with the PCs is somewhat a losing proposition - you'll have to do it for the entire AP.
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Man, I get cranky when my D&D groups go over 4. I can't imagine running what boils down to TWO FULL GROUPS simultaneously.
I delegate a lot of stuff, including initiative, and the players all have to be very prepared when its their turn in combat. Otherwise, its more an attempt to make combat quick and smooth, which can be difficult, and balancing the encounters so they are challenging but not deadly :) I got alot of help from reading some of the threads here on the boards, from other DMs who run big groups, so I highly recommend their advice if you decide to try.
this will be the first ap i run (in pathfinder) as a wanted to run a true pathfinder game without converting a whole ap. my party will consist of 5-6 players so i will try the extra 50% hp for enemies and will take the slow progression. players should fall behind in level that way and if they start falling to far behind i can through in some mini/side quests. Anyone know any pathfind modules that could easily be adapted to this area with limited changes to use as side adventures?
One thing im curious about Kingmaker is the time it takes to build up a kingdom. how is this actually going to work time wise? will players set out to kill some bandits come back and a town is built? or more realistic of months/years of adventure down time while towns and such develop and at curtain time periods curtain adventure points pop up? just wondering how time overall will be handled...
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Anyone know any pathfind modules that could easily be adapted to this area with limited changes to use as side adventures?
I think you could easily adapt the D1, D4, and W1 to this location. Each would require some refining in terms of location and hook, but there are kobolds in the region and the troubles affecting Fort Thorn could easily affect one of your PCs' towns. Depending when you throw these into the mix they might need to be scaled for level as well. And all three are 3.5 rules, so you would need to do minimal conversion on them to fit them in a PFRPG game, though few major problems are springing to mind for any of them.
I like 5 players if at all possible. Exactly 5.. but I'm content with 4.
Actually I think I like 4 best, but the reason I think 5 is the superior number is because if one person has to be absent, we still have what I consider to be a quorum (with 4 players) and we play anyway. That has kept many a game session from being cancelled. No one person cancels a majority of the time, but sooner or later almost everyone will have to miss, so it balances it out.
I've worked with six but it just doesn't feel great. 4 to 5 is my target numbers.
An expanded bestiary in the back of each book would be appreciated.more than the ten or so pages the Bestiaries already get?
Let me put it to you this way, I don't always have a great use for the adventures, but usually I find a monster or two I find interesting. The Bestiary is one of the features I look forward to with each issue.
I've been having a lot of thoughts in and out of my head lately. This is a possible observation, but it seems to me now that Erastil is very close in many ways to the Celtic deity Cernunnos, known as Herne the Hunter in Britain whom the Romans called Sylvanus. Among other things the real world deity is usually depicted as a horned human. Just a possible observation.
this will be the first ap i run (in pathfinder) as a wanted to run a true pathfinder game without converting a whole ap. my party will consist of 5-6 players so i will try the extra 50% hp for enemies and will take the slow progression. players should fall behind in level that way and if they start falling to far behind i can through in some mini/side quests. Anyone know any pathfind modules that could easily be adapted to this area with limited changes to use as side adventures?
One thing im curious about Kingmaker is the time it takes to build up a kingdom. how is this actually going to work time wise? will players set out to kill some bandits come back and a town is built? or more realistic of months/years of adventure down time while towns and such develop and at curtain time periods curtain adventure points pop up? just wondering how time overall will be handled...
I think it has been mentioned that there will be significant down time between the parts off this adventure path.Quite how this ties in with the unchanging nature of Golarion I'm not quite sure
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I think it has been mentioned that there will be significant down time between the parts off this adventure path.Quite how this ties in with the unchanging nature of Golarion I'm not quite surethis will be the first ap i run (in pathfinder) as a wanted to run a true pathfinder game without converting a whole ap. my party will consist of 5-6 players so i will try the extra 50% hp for enemies and will take the slow progression. players should fall behind in level that way and if they start falling to far behind i can through in some mini/side quests. Anyone know any pathfind modules that could easily be adapted to this area with limited changes to use as side adventures?
One thing im curious about Kingmaker is the time it takes to build up a kingdom. how is this actually going to work time wise? will players set out to kill some bandits come back and a town is built? or more realistic of months/years of adventure down time while towns and such develop and at curtain time periods curtain adventure points pop up? just wondering how time overall will be handled...
We assume all Kingmaker APs start on the "current day" and how long they take to resolve is relatively irrelevant for world canon. Mostly because the Stolen Lands are pretty isolated from the rest of the world, but also because the future of Golarion isn't something we're really interested in pinning down; that's for GMs to play with. We're mostly just interested in Golarion's present. Which DOES move into the future at a rate of one day per day.
Oh I'm not complaining James I love being able to take the world and help my players mould it did it with Greyhawk, did it with the Realms, doing it with the Wilderlands in my PbP here..and it won't be the first AP that has occured over an extended time scale..Runelords should take well over a year in game time..so should Crimson Throne and Legacy.
Now after reading the first one... I can't wait to run this. This goes to the top of my next to play list. Currently running a RotR game converted.
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We assume all Kingmaker APs start on the "current day" and how long they take to resolve is relatively irrelevant for world canon. Mostly because the Stolen Lands are pretty isolated from the rest of the world, but also because the future of Golarion isn't something we're really interested in pinning down; that's for GMs to play with. We're mostly just interested in Golarion's present. Which DOES move into the future at a rate of one day per day.
I like this general approach to events management.
I always thought is wasn't quite the same calendar, as I couldn't see a justification for robbing Calistria of her month's fair share of days. It's much simpler to just say the Golarion year has 360 days. Otherwise, the seasons will precess to strange months over the centuries. Also, the leap years are only half as frequent as ours.
Does Golarion's moon have a proper name yet?
are there any fan-made calenders floating around anywhere?
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Ditto on the calender.
which months have 31 days by the way? 364 days a year mean 4 months have 31 days.
Sounds stupid but start with your thumb...= Jan. Between Thumb and index finger is Feb. Index finger itself is March.
Between next finger is April .
Top of next finger is June and so on...
Pinky finger is Sept. Then repeat Pinky as Oct then go back towards thumb.
Top of fingers is the months with 31 days.....
I know...wonders of elementary at a small school. My graduating class was 6.
Sean
EDIT plus there are 365 days a year with every fourth 366 because of leap year...
So seven months have 31 days.
Doesn't work....maybe I remember it incorrect.
At any rate Jan, March, May, July, Aug, Oct, Dec....have 31 days.
From a *really* old thread, somewhere on this board, I copied the following calendar information:
Time on Golarion
Time travels on Golarion much as it does here on our own Earth. Sixty seconds form a minute, sixty minutes create an hour, and twenty-four hours make a day. The people of Golarion measure time much like we do as well, with seven days to a week and twelve 30-day months to a year. Years are marked since the founding of the last great empire, that of Aroden, the Last Man. Although the empire has collapsed, its calendar remains in use to this day. At the start of the campaign, the date is 4707 AR (Absalom Reckoning).
Days of the Week
The days of the week are as follows. Each day has a general purpose that most people in the Inner Sea region follow.
Day
General Purpose
Moonday Work, religion [night]
Toilday Work
Wealday Work
Oathday Work, pacts signed, oaths sworn
Fireday Work
Starday Work
Sunday Rest, religion
Months
The months in Golarion correspond to our own, with each new year starting shortly after the solstice. You'll notice that the name of each month is etymologically tied to a specific god—residents of Golarion see the gods reflected in the changing of the seasons, and their names for the months reflect this. (Gozreh's month, for instance, is a time of budding and new life, while Zon-Kuthon's is seen as the death of the old year.) Holidays in a given month are generally tied to their patron deity. In order, the months are:
Abadius (January)
Calistril (February)
Pharast (March)
Gozran (April)
Desnus (May)
Sarenith (June)
Erastus (July)
Arodus (August)
Rova (September)
Lamashan (October)
Neth (November)
Kuthona (December)
-- david
Papa.DRB
Ditto on the calender.
which months have 31 days by the way? 364 days a year mean 4 months have 31 days.
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30 days hath September, April, June, and November.
All the rest have 31, except February, which has 28 and on leap Years 29.
Ditto on the calender.
which months have 31 days by the way? 364 days a year mean 4 months have 31 days.
Sounds stupid but start with your thumb...= Jan. Between Thumb and index finger is Feb. Index finger itself is March.
Between next finger is April .
Top of next finger is June and so on...
Pinky finger is Sept. Then repeat Pinky as Oct then go back towards thumb.
Top of fingers is the months with 31 days.....
I know...wonders of elementary at a small school. My graduating class was 6.
Sean
EDIT plus there are 365 days a year with every fourth 366 because of leap year...
So seven months have 31 days.
Doesn't work....maybe I remember it incorrect.
At any rate Jan, March, May, July, Aug, Oct, Dec....have 31 days.
Sounds stupid but start with your thumb...= Jan. Between Thumb and index finger is Feb. Index finger itself is March.Between next finger is April .
Top of next finger is June and so on...
Pinky finger is Sept. Then repeat Pinky as Oct then go back towards thumb.
Top of fingers is the months with 31 days.....
I know...wonders of elementary at a small school. My graduating class was 6.
Sean
Start on your pinky and just use your fingers not your thumb, then it works.
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Start on your pinky and just use your fingers not your thumb, then it works.
Sounds stupid but start with your thumb...= Jan. Between Thumb and index finger is Feb. Index finger itself is March.Between next finger is April .
Top of next finger is June and so on...
Pinky finger is Sept. Then repeat Pinky as Oct then go back towards thumb.
Top of fingers is the months with 31 days.....
I know...wonders of elementary at a small school. My graduating class was 6.
Sean
Ahhhhhh.
Sean
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So how does the kingdom alignment bonus work? There's a box for it in the LES lines of the kingdom sheet, and I'm wondering if it's based off of the average of the council's alignments, or just the ruler's, or something else. Does the kingdom alignment equal the ruler's? I could see how the difference between the king's and the kingdom's could lead to Unrest, but it seems from the form that the non-ruler leadership roles don't contribute to it.
I just want to know when this is shipping out? When?!?!?! I cannot take the suspense anymore. My players are finishing second darkness... they will start this in September.... I must know... what day will the PDF appear in my account, and what day will the print version show up on my doorstep!
I just want to know when this is shipping out? When?!?!?! I cannot take the suspense anymore. My players are finishing second darkness... they will start this in September.... I must know... what day will the PDF appear in my account, and what day will the print version show up on my doorstep!
well, ya have until september. I'm betting it will be before that
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I just want to know when this is shipping out? When?!?!?! I cannot take the suspense anymore. My players are finishing second darkness... they will start this in September.... I must know... what day will the PDF appear in my account, and what day will the print version show up on my doorstep!
We can't be anywhere near that precise... especially when the product in question is still on a boat somewhere on the Pacific Ocean. Best we can do for now is "Late April."
Best we can do for now is "Late April."
roughly, how late are we talking about here?
I'm having a Pavlovian response, I'm gettin' so excited!
We can't be anywhere near that precise... especially when the product in question is still on a boat somewhere on the Pacific Ocean.
Zounds! The dreaded slow boat from China! I get flashbacks to the Delta Green hardcover release every time someone tells me their books are at, or finished and being shipped from, their printer in Asia.
/crossed fingers for another great installment
We can't be anywhere near that precise... especially when the product in question is still on a boat somewhere on the Pacific Ocean.Zounds! The dreaded slow boat from China! I get flashbacks to the Delta Green hardcover release every time someone tells me their books are at, or finished and being shipped from, their printer in Asia.
/crossed fingers for another great installment
Relax, it could be worse. Imagine you were a Pathfinder subscriber in Asia: you had to watch your books leaving Asia on a boat, to be delivered to America, to be re-packaged, and put onto a boat to be delivered to Asia...
I dont know but the PDF looks good, really good. I know my players will hate Rorkoun.
Is there a general estimation on how long it takes stock to get out to an FLGS (continental US) after release? Just excited about the prospect of grabbing one from one of my local stores.
When will the pdf be available for sale? And if it allready is, can someone point me to it?
If you scroll about halfway down this page it indicates that the PDF should be available next Wednesday (approx).
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I keep my subscription going and we have a backlog (gotta finish savage tide) before we hit Legacy of Fire...I just hand the unopened packet to whomever is going to DM what series...now that this one is out, I almost want to skip all the others because the premise of this scenario brings back the prospect of why we play this game...EXPLORE EXPLORE EXPLORE without really having to worry about the universe killing artifact....can't wait...
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Is there a general estimation on how long it takes stock to get out to an FLGS (continental US) after release? Just excited about the prospect of grabbing one from one of my local stores.
It generally takes 2-3 weeks after we begin shipping to subscribers to hit most retailers; in this case, the retail release date was yesterday.
Well, I've finally subscribed to the AP starting with this volume (I ordered Kingmaker #1 as well) because the basic premise of this AP sounds ideal for the game I'm currently running for my friends (Imperial Roman dark fantasy set in Germany circa 7 A.D.), and I figured that it sounded like I'd be able to adapt quite a bit. I'm also really curious about the rules involving the exploration and "taming of the land" aspect of this AP.
I don't have anything really specific to say about the product just yet (for obvious reasons), except that I wanted to mention that I've been wanting to support Paizo for a long while - the production quality is so consistently high (and Wayne Reynolds is one of my favorite artists), and since I recently quit playing World of Warcraft, I figured an AP subscription would run me around the same amount of money, but give me a lot more satisfaction for what I'm paying. The other APs looked really cool (based on what I saw in the store), but the concept Kingmaker is based on is what convinced me to finally take the plunge. Getting some birthday money also helped.
I was reading the fiction in Rivers Run Red, and wondering if Richard Pett's been listening to any 2 Live Crew lately. XD
Two things I'm curious about before plunking down money...possibly after depending on answering speed.
One, are there rules for hiring/conscripting/whatevering a military force? I realize actual army battlin' rules are still to come, but I hope RRR at least has some "here's what an army unit costs" guidelines so something like Cry Havoc can be used in the meantime if need be.
And B, is each leadership position given unique actions to take in a nation-building round? And if so, what do they average? Examples appreciated, like "on a given turn, the master spy can design a fake mustache, know 3d8 (wo-)men in a biblical sense, or gain proficiency with an exotic weapon (ex. steel-tipped throwing hat)."
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We can't be anywhere near that precise... especially when the product in question is still on a boat somewhere on the Pacific Ocean. Best we can do for now is "Late April."
Can't you hack into global positioning satellites, compare that data with the ship logs of all countries, and measure the water displacement caused by the weight of the books to get an approximation?
I'm pretty sure that any half-assed hacker on television or in a movie could do this in less than 10 minutes. If the Postmonster can't perform such a trivial task, you should consider kicking him to the curb.
Quick question about the city building rules...
For the purposes of an adjacent structure, what constitutes "adjacent." Within the same 4 tile block, or will seperated by an alley suffice. There has been some conjecture here amongst some future city planners.
Thanks.