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Hobbun wrote:Kvantum wrote:What are you referring to? From my impression, I thought we were getting a hardcover guide for Tia Xia. Although maybe I am mistaken.Mike Silva wrote:Well I imagine if this book and the Tian Xia guide sell well it would kinda be a no brainer to do one on Casmaron(which I can't wait for)!
@silverhair2008 I love Iobaria too, some thin out a great norther wilderness that get's me.
What Tian Xia guide? We aren't getting one, just a bunch of smaller books in the Companion and Chronicles lines.
:(
We never announced a hardcover Tian Xia book. A lot of people assumed we'd be doing one when we announced the Inner Sea World Guide, but we never announced one.
We WILL be doing some support for Tian Xia, but it won't be in the form of a dedicated hardcover. It's a new campaign setting, essentially, so we'll be tackling it in a similar manner to how we tackled the Inner Sea region. Which started not with a hardcover, but a 64 page Gazetteer.
We'll actually be doing MORE than a single 64 page gazetteer, though... but we haven't yet announced what that "MORE" will be (apart from the hopefully obvious large number of support articles in Pathfinder's Jade Regent Adventure Path).
So you're saying you are going to do a lot of smaller books and then a year or two later do a hardback? :D

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@ James
I'm not saying you need to do a Casmaron book right now, I'm not going storm Paizo HQ with pitchforks and fire ;), if I don't get it soon.
I'm patient, I still have a ton of current Pathfinder books I haven't even read yet! But I'm really hoping to see more info on Casmaron in the future, maybe a Casmaron centric Adventure path in a few years.
Getting a Gazetter for Tian Xia first makes a lot of sense now that I think about. If there's interest for Tian Xia still after these books might there then maybe a Hardcover several years from now?

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So you're saying you are going to do a lot of smaller books and then a year or two later do a hardback? :D
I got a Tian Xia Boxed set was coming, out of that... ;)

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I was looking at the Hellknight prestige class and saw something that seem right. The Hellknight table says that one may move in his Hellknight armor at full speed at eigth level and the ability description (to me at least) indicates that full speed is available at second level. What's going on?
Remnant. At 8th level, all that happens is the Hellknight's adjustments increase to 3; he can move at full speed at 2nd level.

deinol |

Dark_Mistress wrote:So you're saying you are going to do a lot of smaller books and then a year or two later do a hardback? :DThat would be super frackin' awesome.
That's not what I'm saying, though.
Which means they will look at sales of the smaller Tian Xia books before deciding to commit to further support. So go buy all the books. ;)

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James Jacobs wrote:Which means they will look at sales of the smaller Tian Xia books before deciding to commit to further support. So go buy all the books. ;)Dark_Mistress wrote:So you're saying you are going to do a lot of smaller books and then a year or two later do a hardback? :DThat would be super frackin' awesome.
That's not what I'm saying, though.
+1

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Remnant. At 8th level, all that happens is the Hellknight's adjustments increase to 3; he can move at full speed at 2nd level.
d20pfsrd.com Hellknight entry updated.

Urizen |

Actually, it wouldn't necessarily be a no-brainer. There's already a strong tradition in fantasy RPG gaming to expand campaigns into Asian myths. If our Tian Xia content does well... it'll also be because we're including Tian Xia stuff in LOTS of books, ranging from the Jade Regent Adventure Path to our novel line to various still-unannounced support books in other book lines, and even to the RPG line (which has content like geishas and samurais and ninjas and kung fu—not world specific, but still rules we'll need for Tian Xia nonetheless).
I await the witnessing to the throngs of puritans who may have a conniption if you dare present an archetype / PrC / class for the geisha without further digging into the background of what that profession really entails aside from what they choose to hyperfocus upon. ;-)

Ganzir |

Hello, one question:
I received my copy today, is there a way to figure out, what is really new?
So far I own every product from the subscriptions you see above my posts, therefor many things detailed in this book (I tend to go so far to say nearly all of them) are already known to me. Many Companions and Setting-Books go in much more detail than this book does etc.
So could someone point out, which pages are interesting to read, if you already have read, well everything there is to read so far regarding pathfinder, since it is really time consuming to read the hole tome again for a few new pieces of information.
Greetz
Ganzir

Zark |

James Jacobs wrote:Remnant. At 8th level, all that happens is the Hellknight's adjustments increase to 3; he can move at full speed at 2nd level.d20pfsrd.com Hellknight entry updated.
Thanx :-)

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Hello, one question:
I received my copy today, is there a way to figure out, what is really new?
So far I own every product from the subscriptions you see above my posts, therefor many things detailed in this book (I tend to go so far to say nearly all of them) are already known to me. Many Companions and Setting-Books go in much more detail than this book does etc.
So could someone point out, which pages are interesting to read, if you already have read, well everything there is to read so far regarding pathfinder, since it is really time consuming to read the hole tome again for a few new pieces of information.
Greetz
Ganzir
There's no real easy way to answer this, since there really wasn't a single page of the book that didn't get rewritten or edited or reorganized in some way.

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Hello, one question:
I received my copy today, is there a way to figure out, what is really new?
So far I own every product from the subscriptions you see above my posts, therefor many things detailed in this book (I tend to go so far to say nearly all of them) are already known to me. Many Companions and Setting-Books go in much more detail than this book does etc.
So could someone point out, which pages are interesting to read, if you already have read, well everything there is to read so far regarding pathfinder, since it is really time consuming to read the hole tome again for a few new pieces of information.
Greetz
Ganzir
Oh, dear. Really? Could you provide examples? I, too, own pretty much everything Pathfinder and so do many in my gaming circles as well. If what you say is true, I'll want to notify them and our FLGS.

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Oh, dear. Really? Could you provide examples? I, too, own pretty much everything Pathfinder and so do many in my gaming circles as well. If what you say is true, I'll want to notify them and our FLGS.
This book is a very good buy for even those that own everything...
There is new stuff, Changed stuff, and updated 3.5 rules to PFRPG rules.
A very big chink of this is useful even if you own the Guide the printed a few years back.
Edit: One of my favorite things they did for this book which they did not do for the first was they added a Map for each country described, in the country descriptions. That was something I was upset they did not do in the first book, and made this worth the buy alone for me.

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joela wrote:
Oh, dear. Really? Could you provide examples? I, too, own pretty much everything Pathfinder and so do many in my gaming circles as well. If what you say is true, I'll want to notify them and our FLGS.
This book is a very good buy for even those that own everything...
There is new stuff, Changed stuff, and updated 3.5 rules to PFRPG rules.
A very big chink of this is useful even if you own the Guide the printed a few years back.
Edit: One of my favorite things they did for this book which they did not do for the first was they added a Map for each country described, in the country descriptions. That was something I was upset they did not do in the first book, and made this worth the buy alone for me.
Good points. Can't wait until Inner Sea arrives at my FLGS.

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Hello, one question:
I received my copy today, is there a way to figure out, what is really new?
So far I own every product from the subscriptions you see above my posts, therefor many things detailed in this book (I tend to go so far to say nearly all of them) are already known to me. Many Companions and Setting-Books go in much more detail than this book does etc.
So could someone point out, which pages are interesting to read, if you already have read, well everything there is to read so far regarding pathfinder, since it is really time consuming to read the whole tome again for a few new pieces of information.
Greetz
Ganzir
Exact;y how I felt, so far I've marvelled at the quality, admired the art and then gone and read something else.
I think I'm going to read the country entries that have grown from 2 to 4 pages, that's about it...

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So could someone point out, which pages are interesting to read, if you already have read, well everything there is to read so far regarding pathfinder, since it is really time consuming to read the hole tome again for a few new pieces of information.
Greetz
Ganzir
Holy moly, I guess this is the world of Twitter come to pass.
You bought the book, even though you don't think it'll be interesting to read?
I thought that reading the book was the whole point of buying it?
-Kle.

Ice_Deep |
Just received this book though I have the PDF. The PDF can't compare, it's gorgeous, and the layout seems excellent. I enjoy the large map, but the maps of each nation are what make this product so excellent.
I can imagine telling a player some things to get them excited about "visiting" a nation just by looking at the map of some of the nations and reading some of the places.
Though now I know the island I was going to use for my independent nation is being used by Katapesh (IIRC). So I think with all this good info it's time for a read and see which nation I want my players to topple/free/takeover, or at least start in :).
Also I can't wait to show this to the group Saturday they will drool! :)

Ganzir |

Holy moly, I guess this is the world of Twitter come to pass.
You bought the book, even though you don't think it'll be interesting to read?
I thought that reading the book was the whole point of buying it?
-Kle.
One little suggestion:
1. Read
2. Think
3. Post
I bought the book, because I am a subscriber of the campaign setting line.
Meaning: I get every new publication and I am not going to cancel a subscription because one book is in great parts a reprint of what I already own.

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One of my favorite things they did for this book which they did not do for the first was they added a Map for each country described, in the country descriptions. That was something I was upset they did not do in the first book, and made this worth the buy alone for me.
I thought this was the best change they did for this book. Having a map for each country made it a lot easier to follow what I was reading.

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We have updated the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea World Guide PDF. Both Single-File and One-File-per-Chapter versions have been updated to improve compatibility with iPad and iPhone PDF readers as well as with Apple's Preview application under OS X 10.6. The editorial content of the files has not changed.
Those of you who have access to the PDF may download the updated version for free from your My Downloads page.

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Great job on the new book. One question: are the old feats from the old campaign setting book still legal to use in game?
That's up to your GM. If you're playing in Pathfinder Society, see Additional Resources for information on how to convert the old feats to new ones.

Iron-Dice |

We have updated the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea World Guide PDF. Both Single-File and One-File-per-Chapter versions have been updated to improve compatibility with iPad and iPhone PDF readers as well as with Apple's Preview application under OS X 10.6. The editorial content of the files has not changed.
Those of you who have access to the PDF may download the updated version for free from your My Downloads page.
Vic, your guys are awesome! I'm impressed with how fast you reformatted the PDF. Thanks for the great effort.

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We have updated the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea World Guide PDF. Both Single-File and One-File-per-Chapter versions have been updated to improve compatibility with iPad and iPhone PDF readers as well as with Apple's Preview application under OS X 10.6. The editorial content of the files has not changed.
Those of you who have access to the PDF may download the updated version for free from your My Downloads page.
Thank you and everyone else involved!
I know you guys have a FULL schedule and getting this squeezed in is greatly appreciated.
Sean

Zark |

I picked up my copy yesterday at my FLGS. Nice book, lots of pictures, some monsters, some feats, some new spells, some new items.
This is one of those products you really want as a printed book and perhaps only as a book, so I probably won't get PDF. The Harrower was a bit of a disappointment. Can't see my bard pick one level divine caster just to qualify for this class. But the book is beautiful.
I was disappointment not to find a potion belt in the new equipment list. The Dogslicer is nice new item thou. I love the Dervish Dance feat and even if there are only a few new feats in the book (40 or so) some of them are really nice, especially flavor-wise. Harmonic spell is a nice one if you play Bard and don't plan to pick 13 levels Bard. Over all a nice and really beautiful book.

Zombieneighbours |

Awesome book guys. I wasn't going to buy it in hard copy, but I got really good news yesterday (New job FTW!) and picked it up.
This is an even better book than the orinal. Truly amazing.
The Art work is awesome. While the styles are a little all over the place, there is some awesomeness bits. Favourates include the Apis Consortium gold agent(pg 263), the Daughter of Urgathoa(pg 309) and theFactions chapter openner art, which has basically openned my eyes to the awesome of the andoran eagle knights(who previously I thought must look rather silly)

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have been updated to improve compatibility with iPad and iPhone PDF readers as well as with Apple's Preview application under OS X 10.6. The editorial content of the files has not changed.
So much for it taking a couple of weeks. Thankyou very much Vic and to everyone who worked on that (which I understand were quite a few).
Now I'm torn between reading the books I just recently bought (Gamemastery Guide, Sargava, Faction Guide and Seekers of Secrets) or if I should download this and skip those ones :P

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One little suggestion:
1. Read
2. Think
3. PostI bought the book, because I am a subscriber of the campaign setting line.
Meaning: I get every new publication and I am not going to cancel a subscription because one book is in great parts a reprint of what I already own.
I did those things.
I still find your request bizarre.
-Kle.

Sunderstone |

We have updated the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea World Guide PDF.
<snip>
Those of you who have access to the PDF may download the updated version for free from your My Downloads page.
Many thanks Vic and Co.
Looks great on Goodreader and iBook on my iPhone4. Single page view is appreciated on small devices. :)
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I bought the book, because I am a subscriber of the campaign setting line.Meaning: I get every new publication and I am not going to cancel a subscription because one book is in great parts a reprint of what I already own.
The single greatest post of a reason NOT to subscribe.
I just picked up my copy last night at my shop, and I like it. I didn't have enough time to "read" it, but while most of the posts appraise the art work, I wasn't overly impressed.
Additionally I wish I had researched the book more prior to purchase. I thought it was going to focus on the inner sea area, as in more focused on the area around the sea, not just an overview of all the countries on maps already available. Oh well, lesson learned.
While the quality is incredible, it wasn't the product that I expected. Were this a review it would be a 3.5/5 stars for me.

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The Harrower was a bit of a disappointment. Can't see my bard pick one level divine caster just to qualify for this class.
You don't need any divine caster levels at all to qualifiy for the Harrower prestige class; it's equally open to both arcane and divine spellcasters. The only restrictions are the alignment restrictions, the Harrowed feat, the knowledge restrictions, and ownership of a harrow deck—all of which any class can qualify for.
The only even remotely tricky one is the spellcasting prerequisite, which means you have to cast up to 3rd level spells, three of which must be divination spells. And bards get LOTS of divination spell choices by 3rd level. Heck; you can fill this prereq with just cantrips: detect magic, know direction, and read magic.
Since bards get access to 3rd level spells at a higher level than most other spellcasting classes, that does slow down WHEN you can take the prestige class a little, but multiclassing into a divine spellcaster class would just slow that all the faster, so that's not a problem either.

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Ganzir wrote:
One little suggestion:
1. Read
2. Think
3. PostI bought the book, because I am a subscriber of the campaign setting line.
Meaning: I get every new publication and I am not going to cancel a subscription because one book is in great parts a reprint of what I already own.
I did those things.
I still find your request bizarre.
-Kle.
You misunderstood the process.
He didn't buy a book that he was not interested in reading.
He bought a book, through a subscription which normally provides fantastic reading material, and discovered afterwards that the book was largely a reprint of a book he already owned.
He has no other way of getting the extra information that he did not already own, he could only buy the book. There is no other product available that prints the new information.
So, in order to learn the new stuff he wants to learn he had to also buy redundant stuff as it all came packaged together.
He now wants to know how to access the new stuff without going through the process of re-reading the old stuff that is bundled with it.
The request seems entirely reasonable to me.

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Got mine yesterday, and I got to say it may be the sexiest game book I've ever own. Great chooses on the old art to bring back and the new art is equally amazing.
On that note who does the art for the Prophet of Kalistade(and is that really the prophet?), Maurya-Rahm Advisor, Queen Telandia Edasseril, Chernasardo Ranger, Aspis Consortium Gold Agent?
I love his/her art!

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Got mine yesterday, and I got it save it may be the sexiest game book I've ever own. Great chooses on the old art to bring back and the new art is equally amazing.
On that note who does the art for the Prophet of Kalistade(and is that really the prophet?), Maurya-Rahm Advisor, Queen Telandia Edasseril, Chernasardo Ranger, Aspis Consortium Gold Agent?
I love his/her art!
That would be Carolina Eade. Her style, while not universal, is absolutely amazing when applied right.
She and Eric Belisle are my fave recent new artist in Paizo books. More Carolina, I say!

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I got to say that the book is really well organized, an advantage over the past campaign setting books. An advantage over them that people who already own one and are on the fence should think about.
You can really tell that Paizo had 5 years to add to the world, just by looking at the detail of the Mwangi and Tien sections only in caparison to 3 or 4 years ago..
Each four page spread on each area is perfect size for newer players who know little to nothing about the place they want to come from to get a crash course in them. 4 detailed pages is less overwhelming than 10 page gazetteers or whole book.
I love how the map borders now take into account island controlled too.
Really pleasantly surprised that you had info about the Darklands and the Great Beyond.
Religion section is solid, again for players choosing their deities at a glance.
Love the calender and the holidays.
About the languages, why no Boggard?
Love most of the Life chapter. love the write up on coinage, fauna and flora, and more details on advance technology in the world.
Are the write ups on in the faction sections on top of what is in the Factions book or overrides them?
Love all the updated prestige classes, though I miss the shackles pirate, and hope we get an update version of the class in another book.
Love that things like Varisian Tatoo, Totem Spirit, Bladed Scarf, Dogslicer, Earth Breaker, Horsechopper, Klar, Ogre Hook, War Razer all got updated just in time for my RotRL campaign. :)
Great to see some of those monsters updated, but how do you tease me with Ahriman in the Thuvia section and not give me updated Divs. I demand it!!! :P
But seriously, updated Divs in the next Bestiary or in some other book.

Mournblade94 |

To James Jacobs, Erik Mona, and the other writers responsible for this work of art,
THANK YOU.
Though the Pathfinder Core Rules was an impressive volume, it has been 10 years since I bought a book that deserved my absolute adulation. That book was the Forgotten Realms Campaign setting for 3rd edition, and until now I have found nothing that could compare to its value.
Forgotten Realms is my home world so to speak, and though I never switched to 4th edition, I made it my home world for Pathfinder as well. I was certainly reluctant to leave it, and planted many worthy shadows of Golarion upon it while I played. It was fun fitting the Crimson Throne and Legacy of Fire into the forgotten Realms. Now I fear my stories in the Forgotten Realms must end. They were wonderful and grand, but Golarion has proved to be just as grand.
The Inner Sea World Guide surpasses the 3rd edition Forgotten Realms Campaign guide, and that is little surprise. While reading the list of contributing authors, I read that many if not most of the writers responsible for the latter also contributed to the World Guide. The authors did a fantastic job. I have the old Golarion Guide and that was nearly enough to completely draw me in to the world. This new guide finally pushed me over the edge. No longer am I trying to find a place for Cheliax on the sea of Fallen Stars, for now I am just telling my stories in the Inner Sea.
Thank you to all that contributed to this work. My money was well spent, and that is not always easy to say in this day and age.
Until Swords Part!
Carl Cascone

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Mike Silva wrote:Got mine yesterday, and I got it save it may be the sexiest game book I've ever own. Great chooses on the old art to bring back and the new art is equally amazing.
On that note who does the art for the Prophet of Kalistade(and is that really the prophet?), Maurya-Rahm Advisor, Queen Telandia Edasseril, Chernasardo Ranger, Aspis Consortium Gold Agent?
I love his/her art!
That would be Carolina Eade. Her style, while not universal, is absolutely amazing when applied right.
She and Eric Belisle are my fave recent new artist in Paizo books. More Carolina, I say!
Thanks!
Agreed, though not perfect in every setting her art is beautiful. I wish White wolf had gotten her over when they were still making new Exalted books, though since they weren't in color they wouldn't be as great.