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Vic Wertz wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Which is exactly what we did: It says "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game."Uninvited Ghost wrote:A Golarion branding separate from the Pathfinder branding ever considered (ie: Golarion logo)?Since ALL of the books we publish are set in Golarion with the exception of the core book line... it'd be easier to make a separate logo for the RPG line.From where I'm standing, they all say Pathfinder, none of them say Golarion. :)
I'm not saying just one or the other, I'm saying that Golarion have it's own logo beneath the Pathfinder logo.
You know, like previous editions of Pathfinder did it, when it used to be called Dungeons & Dragons. ;)
There are three reasons we don't want to do that. First, "Pathfinder" is the brand we want to build recognition for, not "Golarion." Second, Golarion is just one planet on one plane in the Pathfinder campaign setting, so putting that label on a product that's primarily extraplanar (for example) would be misleading. And third, we don't want our products to look like NASCAR driver firesuits.
For those in the know, here's all you need to know: If the main logo is "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game," it's setting-neutral. If the main logo is "Pathfinder [anything else]", it's designed for the Pathfinder campaign setting.

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Is there a list of defined nations for Golarion anywhere (other than the PF Chronicles Campaign Setting which I have)? I'm coloring the new Golarion map and want to only color the names of the nations, leaving "areas" (Mana Wastes, etc.) uncolored.
The Inner Sea World Guide has all the borders for various regions more or less defined (although in a lot of cases, those borders are somewhat vague or fluid).

Azazyll |

Lanx wrote:I'd jump on those faster than well a really fast thing, something my dwarven shaped body has difficulty with normally.Shizvestus wrote:Now all we deed is the Varisia Sourse Book :)... followed by the Azlant and Thassilon Source Book!
I would love an Azlant/Thassilon book with as many pages as I could get. Everyone else who wants one should shout out too!

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I've read several posts by the Paizo staff stating that this World Guide will not replace the Campaign Setting book. What if I want it to replace the old Campaign Setting? Can it?
It's not making the Campaign Setting book obsolete, as it's basically just expanding on what was in the original. However, it is updating what was in the original Campaign Setting book, so some bits may not be rewritten.
Basically, they had to reprint their campaign world guide, since the original went out of stock, but the also wanted to update to PFRPG rules and clean up/expand on some of the setting descriptions while they did so. It basically allowed them to kill two birds with one book more or less =p

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I am wondering,...When it stats that there will be:
Cultural information and Pathfinder RPG rules covering the 20 core deities of the Inner Sea, plus entries on other gods, demigods, forgotten deities, weird cults, strange philosophies, and more!
Will this expand upon what was published in Gods & Magic or just be reprinted into this Campaign Setting? I tried to look through the other posts before posting this though sifting through over 500 posts is a little exhausting.

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I've read several posts by the Paizo staff stating that this World Guide will not replace the Campaign Setting book. What if I want it to replace the old Campaign Setting? Can it?
The primary point of the Inner Sea World Guide is that it's going to be the Campaign Setting book going forward. So yes, if you want to use the Inner Sea World Guide to "replace" the old Campaign Setting hardcover... that's exactly what it does. In that it is, essentially, the reprint of the Campaign Setting hardcover.

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I am wondering,...When it stats that there will be:
Cultural information and Pathfinder RPG rules covering the 20 core deities of the Inner Sea, plus entries on other gods, demigods, forgotten deities, weird cults, strange philosophies, and more!
Will this expand upon what was published in Gods & Magic or just be reprinted into this Campaign Setting? I tried to look through the other posts before posting this though sifting through over 500 posts is a little exhausting.
We've expanded the section on other gods slightly, to include the Eldest of the First World and the Elemental Lords (neither of which got much detail in Gods & Magic). The religion section is otherwise quite similar to that in the previous hardcover. AKA: It does NOT expand upon the information published in Gods & Magic at all.

KnightErrantJR |

I would love an Azlant/Thassilon book with as many pages as I could get. Everyone else who wants one should shout out too!
I'll be a buzz kill and say, while it will be fun to learn more about Azlant and/or Thassilon, I don't want full blown sourcebooks on them. Netheril, Imaskar, and Myth Drannor were much more fun when they were lost civilizations with some hints about them here or there.

Joseph Wilson |

Is the new Inner Sea book going to be as system independent as the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting is now? I don't use PF but use and love the setting. I will be sad if it's tightly bound to PF now. :(
James Jacobs' response to a similar query on the previous page:
Narno the Necromancer wrote:Hi!
I've not read the whole thread, but I'd like to know how much use this book could be for someone who really likes the setting but who has no interest in running it with the Pathfinder/D&D/d20 rules system. Is it worth the investment if one is looking solely for setting material (so little to no crunch)?
Thanks in advance!
If you really like the setting, the Inner Sea World Guide should be perfect for you, regardless of whether you use Pathfinder, D&D, BRP, BECMI, AD&D, GURPS, or any other all-caps acronym rules system.
There WILL be rules content in the book, but they are, for the most part, collected in two chapters (the "Adventuring in the Inner Sea" chapter, which has prestige classes, feats, spells, magic items, and equipment) and the Monsters chapter. Those two chapters account for about 50 pages of the 320 page book. (There ARE tiny rules bits scattered here and there through the rest of the book, but not a lot...).
In fact, the decision to compile the rules into two chapters was done partially to make it easier for folks who weren't using PFRPG to use Golarion in their games. (And also because those who DO use the PFRPG should find it easier to find the rules when they're not scattered across the entire book.)

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Is the new Inner Sea book going to be as system independent as the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting is now? I don't use PF but use and love the setting. I will be sad if it's tightly bound to PF now. :(
One of the primary reasons we updated the book WAS to tie it more strongly to the Pathfinder rules system. It is, after all, our game. It would be self-defeating to NOT update it to use the Pathfinder Rules and to take advantage of the fact that we now have a stable rules system that we can trust won't go away any time soon.
That said, the vas majority of the rules content of the book appears in its own two chapters, so if you're more interested in using Golarion for another game, it's relatively easy to focus only on the flavor-filled chapters.

Azazyll |

Azazyll wrote:I would love an Azlant/Thassilon book with as many pages as I could get. Everyone else who wants one should shout out too!
I'll be a buzz kill and say, while it will be fun to learn more about Azlant and/or Thassilon, I don't want full blown sourcebooks on them. Netheril, Imaskar, and Myth Drannor were much more fun when they were lost civilizations with some hints about them here or there.
There are those who like the Lord of the Rings as it is, and there are those of us who prefer it with the Silmarillion. You don't have to read or use it, but I for one would like the option. I adored the Netheril and Cormanthor boxed sets, but even more I loved Lost Empires of Faeurn. It is one of my most treasured 3.X books. I still pick it up and read it with regularity. There can still be plenty of mystery if done right, and at best it expands rather than restricts your options. I have every confidence Paizo could do it right. Besides, if the goal is mystery and hints alone, we should really just stop the pathfinder setting right now, with plenty of unanswered questions. I'm more into exploring a world chronologically than geographically.
Not intending to flame, just a counter argument.

Generic Villain |
I would love an Azlant/Thassilon book with as many pages as I could get. Everyone else who wants one should shout out too!
While this is something I may eventually like to see, I am far more interested in seeing the living countries of Golarion fleshed out first. Geb, Nex, Numeria, Land of the Linnorm Kings, Hold of the Mammoth Lords - these are the places I want to know more about in the immediate future. And that's not even mentioning Vudra, the Empire of Kelish, Arcadia, and the no-doubt rich world beneath the ocean.

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Thanks, James. You've got my $50!
And mine; already ordered it at my FLGS, alongside the map folio. Although I have the original CS, I want the updated version, and I think it's a brilliant idea to publish World Guides for different regions of Golarion. For example, I'm not that interested in Asian flavor and I'm glad that there won't be 10-20 pages "wasted" (from my perspective) on that; on the other hand, other customers may be very happy about eventually getting a whole book on Minkai and Tian Xia.

Azazyll |

...and the no-doubt rich world beneath the ocean.
Exactly where a book on Azlant would come in handy. I'm not saying it would have to just be about the past - a book which addressed the inheritors of Azlant and Thassilon. Ideally such a book would give us both history and numerous ways to use that history in the present. The Mordant Spire, the Aboleths, the Gillmen, Thasillonian ruins, etc.
On an unrelated note, is this product shipping the same time as the new Carrion Crown adventure (i.e. "in about a week")? I was thinking of preordering and wanted to check if I should have them ship together or separately. Thanks!

Liz Courts Contributor |

On an unrelated note, is this product shipping the same time as the new Carrion Crown adventure (i.e. "in about a week")? I was thinking of preordering and wanted to check if I should have them ship together or separately. Thanks!
It is almost always cheaper to have stuff ship together - you should get an option to add something to your sidecart if you have an active subscription during the checkout process.

Azazyll |

Azazyll wrote:On an unrelated note, is this product shipping the same time as the new Carrion Crown adventure (i.e. "in about a week")? I was thinking of preordering and wanted to check if I should have them ship together or separately. Thanks!It is almost always cheaper to have stuff ship together - you should get an option to add something to your sidecart if you have an active subscription during the checkout process.
Expertly dodged question, Gninja, but thanks for the advice :) I was wondering if putting this product in with the adventure path would delay the adventure path shipment (or, to be terribly uncouth, is this shipping next week at the same time as the AP for subscribers?)

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Expertly dodged question, Gninja, but thanks for the advice :) I was wondering if putting this product in with the adventure path would delay the adventure path shipment (or, to be terribly uncouth, is this shipping next week at the same time as the AP for subscribers?)
It shouldn't delay it that I know of - when you combine non-subscription items from your sidecart with your subscription order (please make sure you have your sidecart options set in the My Subscriptions portion of your account), it can push your order towards the end of the subscription run though.
I will now distract with cookies. *offers warm fresh chocolate chip cookies*

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Liz Courts wrote:Expertly dodged question, Gninja, but thanks for the advice :) I was wondering if putting this product in with the adventure path would delay the adventure path shipment (or, to be terribly uncouth, is this shipping next week at the same time as the AP for subscribers?)Azazyll wrote:On an unrelated note, is this product shipping the same time as the new Carrion Crown adventure (i.e. "in about a week")? I was thinking of preordering and wanted to check if I should have them ship together or separately. Thanks!It is almost always cheaper to have stuff ship together - you should get an option to add something to your sidecart if you have an active subscription during the checkout process.
The Inner Sea World Guide, Pathfinder Adventure Path #43, Map Pack: Dungeon Sites, and Planet Stories: Battle in the Dawn will all begin shipping next week.

Evil Lincoln |

by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD Wiker
Not that it matters, but...

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product page wrote:by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD WikerNot that it matters, but...
he is so good he needed to be mentioned twice!!!

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Evil Lincoln wrote:he is so good he needed to be mentioned twice!!!product page wrote:by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD WikerNot that it matters, but...
That was entirely my doing, and it's fixed now. The way it reads in the book is slightly different: James is credited as the project lead, and then appears alphabetically in the list of authors.

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Dragnmoon wrote:That was entirely my doing, and it's fixed now. The way it reads in the book is slightly different: James is credited as the project lead, and then appears alphabetically in the list of authors.Evil Lincoln wrote:he is so good he needed to be mentioned twice!!!product page wrote:by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD WikerNot that it matters, but...
I just figured you guys finally cloned him to get more work out of him. Then of course made the clones share the pay. :)

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Vic Wertz wrote:I just figured you guys finally cloned him to get more work out of him. Then of course made the clones share the pay. :)Dragnmoon wrote:That was entirely my doing, and it's fixed now. The way it reads in the book is slightly different: James is credited as the project lead, and then appears alphabetically in the list of authors.Evil Lincoln wrote:he is so good he needed to be mentioned twice!!!product page wrote:by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD WikerNot that it matters, but...
Hmmm, they *do* say that Wes is expert at crafting clones with the Fiendish template... and I guess he's learned from his mistakes at trying to make several clones of SKR (with hair).
But two Jacobses under the same sky might be too much, so I believe this is simply a typo. Not even Wes would try something like that.

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Evil Lincoln wrote:he is so good he needed to be mentioned twice!!!product page wrote:by James Jacobs with Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, Clinton J. Boomer, Jason Bulmahn, Joshua J. Frost, Ed Greenwood, Stephen S. Greer, Jeff Grubb, James Jacobs, Michael Kortes, Tito Leati, Mike McArtor, Rob McCreary, Erik Mona, Jason Eric Nelson, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, F. Wesley Schneider, Leandra Christine Schneider, David Schwartz, Amber E. Scott, Stan!, Owen K.C. Stephens, Todd Stewart, James L. Sutter, Greg A. Vaughan, Jeremy Walker, and JD WikerNot that it matters, but...
I certainly did enough WORK on this book to be mentioned twice! :-P

gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |

bugleyman wrote:I heard he gets a whole mini bag of plain MM's each week.Dark_Mistress wrote:...Then of course made the clones share the pay. :)Jacobs is paid?
Not only that, I heard a rumor that he gets the two cents from every dollar left over after they pay Neil his 98 cents per word.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Not only that, I heard a rumor that he gets the two cents from every dollar left over after they pay Neil his 98 cents per word.bugleyman wrote:I heard he gets a whole mini bag of plain MM's each week.Dark_Mistress wrote:...Then of course made the clones share the pay. :)Jacobs is paid?
Now that's crazy talk.

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product page wrote:Nine new monsters, including exotic humanoids of the skies and seas, undead and dragons, and an angry demon lord in exile!Given that we saw the Blackaxe in today's blog preview, I'm going to guess this is 'Pathfinderized' Treerazer?
Yup. Also, I believe I confirmed in another thread or perhaps in the chat room that the only 2-page monster entry in this book's monster chapter is an entry for Treerazer.

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gbonehead wrote:Now that's crazy talk.Dark_Mistress wrote:Not only that, I heard a rumor that he gets the two cents from every dollar left over after they pay Neil his 98 cents per word.bugleyman wrote:I heard he gets a whole mini bag of plain MM's each week.Dark_Mistress wrote:...Then of course made the clones share the pay. :)Jacobs is paid?
I assumed he was paid in T-Rex treats (ie goats left staked out just beyond the electric fence)
EDIT: I now have the image of James the T-Rex scribbling furiously at a book, only to hear the bleating call of the goat, whereupon he races through the jungle to the fence to be photographed by the Paizo community (hopefully scattering spoiler pages blown along in his wake)

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So is the Hardcover Dead Tree version ready for purchase? (Meaning no longer Pre-order)
They have them listed as in stock, and subscribers have started receiving the emails stating the orders will start shipping this next week. You should be able to order it, and it'd ship towards the end/after all the pre-orders and subscribers I believe.

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Evil Genius Prime wrote:So is the Hardcover Dead Tree version ready for purchase? (Meaning no longer Pre-order)They have them listed as in stock, and subscribers have started receiving the emails stating the orders will start shipping this next week. You should be able to order it, and it'd ship towards the end/after all the pre-orders and subscribers I believe.
Thanks Snigg!

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Holy Bleep! Is the PDF suppose to be a 146mb big?I've had a look through, and I'm not seeing a lot of ways to get that much smaller. No single image is all that big, but there are several hundred illustrations in chapter 2 alone, which is 184 pages long.
No worries, I was just a ... shall we say tad surprised at the sheer size of the PDF. :)

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Vic Wertz wrote:No worries, I was just a ... shall we say tad surprised at the sheer size of the PDF. :)Dark_Mistress wrote:Holy Bleep! Is the PDF suppose to be a 146mb big?I've had a look through, and I'm not seeing a lot of ways to get that much smaller. No single image is all that big, but there are several hundred illustrations in chapter 2 alone, which is 184 pages long.
OK, good, it's not just me. Even if it is taking me half an hour to download it... on a 50+ Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem... but if there's that many images in it, I can understand.