Todd,
Not sure if you or anyone else can answer this, but will this book (or the Pathfinder cosmology) include the Demented? If not, why?
As much as I adore the baernaloths of The Demented, they're so very much WotC IP (even if WotC has never done a darn thing with them since 2e).
It's not out of the realm of possibility that you might see something inspired by them however, though Golarion's cosmic history as it involves the daemons rather precludes them being the children of the oldest fiends like the yugoloths were to the baeraloths. And it's up for debate if baernaloth style elder uber fiends have the same niche in Golarion's cosmology to fill. James has a copy of the daemon material so far, so he knows where I'm going, or not, or maybe. :)
But in general, don't expect Lazarius Ibn Shartalan to show up for instance, even if he's not WotC IP.
A full exploration of that sort of thing might wait for a book focused on Golarion's fiends, which would be entirely up to the Paizo guys for if/when on that sort of thing. Let's get the whole cosmology described first. :)
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Is there any chance that Paizo will release some basic information about the new cosmology as OGC so that it can be used by 3PPs? I'm not talking about the Golarion-specific stuff, but about some of the more generic material. I reckon that it would be great to see Paizo define a shared cosmology that everyone could utilize.
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It's not the final cover. The picture used in the mock-up is from Gallery of Evil.
I know this isn't the final cover, but quite honestly, I think you will have a hard time coming up with a more fitting depiction of what the planes have to offer. This is one of the most disturbing images!
April. April? APRIL!? But I need it nowwwww. <sniffle>
Todd Stewart is Shemeska correct?
I'm looking forward to this :)
Wow, very good news there.
I'll definitely have to get this one when it comes out. I love Shemmy's work!
I'll be honest, right up there with getting to write a 3.x Fiendish Codex III
Very OT, but didn't the yugoloths/daemons get covered in something called the Book of Fiends from (I think) Green Ronin Press?
I wish that book was back in print.
Is it just me or does that kinda look like Diterlizzi (sp?) artwork?
Chad
It's very DiTerlizzi-esque, at the least.
DiTerlizzi(-esque) artwork + Shemeska-written = instant sale.
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Apparently Todd was interviewed about the Pathfinder universe:
Is this going to be a overview of the Golarion cosmology or more open, in a Planescape sense, hence useful for any setting ?
Edit : I just read the interview linked by Joela (thanks for that), and it seems the answer is #2, which is great.
I am waiting for this. This is going to be good...
Go Shemeska, go!
Hm, now theres a cool description in the blog what the cover looks like in this one, only if the picture would be something else than the old placeholder =).
I've seen the cover. *drool*
I've also seen some of the interior artwork. *drool once again*
oooh
The cover looks like something Tony Diterlizzi would cook up.
This is very promissing... Excellent
oooh
The cover looks like something Tony Diterlizzi would cook up.
This is very promissing... Excellent
That's still the placeholder cover. :)
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oooh
The cover looks like something Tony Diterlizzi would cook up.
This is very promissing... Excellent
The art currently on display is still the placeholder art. That image is from, if I'm not mistaken, U1: Gallery of Evil.
That's still the placeholder cover. :)oooh
The cover looks like something Tony Diterlizzi would cook up.
This is very promissing... Excellent
ooooh
I can imagine what the real thing will look like
That's still the placeholder cover. :)oooh
The cover looks like something Tony Diterlizzi would cook up.
This is very promissing... Excellent
ooooh
I can imagine what the real thing will look like
Or, just click here...
Couldn't help myself! Don't bother with the video. Just the music.
This book and my crocii emerging are the two things I look forward to most this April!
I'm almost done developing the book, and there is a lot of really, really cool stuff in it. Todd did a great job of making some of the weirder planes weird (as in "not just another Earth-like world with different colors") without being whimsical (such as the "Demiplane of Cheese," which almost made it into an official Wizards product...).
I'm almost done developing the book, and there is a lot of really, really cool stuff in it. Todd did a great job of making some of the weirder planes weird (as in "not just another Earth-like world with different colors") without being whimsical (such as the "Demiplane of Cheese," which almost made it into an official Wizards product...).
As tempting as it was to jokingly include the Demiplane of Flowers and Other Green Things in homage to the 1e joke module Castle Greyhawk... I think James's rage would have leaped through the internet to strangle me. Or something like that. ;)
The planes are meant to be wierd at times, but in the sense of being alien to mortal conceptions, not silly. You can have light moments certainly, but they shouldn't be downright goofy. At least that's my design sense for planar material, and once the book is out, I really do hope that folks like it, and have fun using (and putting their own twist upon) the material.
And Sean, please oh please gimme details in the Demiplane of Cheese story if you would. :)
It's exactly what it sounded like. Cheese land. Cheese lakes. Cheese creatures.
Tré cheesy. :/
It's exactly what it sounded like. Cheese land. Cheese lakes. Cheese creatures.
Tré cheesy. :/
Cheese clouds?
Thinking back, I believe some of my players cheesy characters might have come from this plane.
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It's exactly what it sounded like. Cheese land. Cheese lakes. Cheese creatures.
Tré cheesy. :/
Cheese clouds?
Thinking back, I believe some of my players cheesy characters might have come from this plane.
Yes, if you take more than two PrCs or more than three base classes, you automatically become an outsider with the native and fromage subtypes.
such as the "Demiplane of Cheese," which almost made it into an official Wizards product...
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I appreciate it that somebody put his or her foot down and prevented that from happening. We really don't need any more goofy things like that making it officially into the game!
Looks really cool, and somewhat Planescape-y. Could we get a list of the planes which are covered?
Goudayanki?
Brie Slaad?
Looks really cool, and somewhat Planescape-y. Could we get a list of the planes which are covered?
Positive Energy
Negative EnergyMaterial Plane
Ethereal
Shadow
Elemental Air
Elemental Water
Elemental Earth
Elemental Fire
Astral
Axis
Abbadon
Heaven
Hell
Nirvana
Elysium
Pharasma's Spire / The Boneyard
The Maelstrom
The Abyss
Demiplanes (both astral and ethereal)
Other dimensions and planes that don't quite fit the general model of true planes or demiplanes
And for all of ye who're interested in all things Planar and want a place to rattle yer bone boxes or servos or speakers just drop your face into ye old World Serpent Inn!
I'll sling ye some grog to quench yer thirst as me and the Patrons of the Serpent get to know this here Golarion and all it has to offer!
--I wanna vrock... Vrock!
Can't wait, love the art-work, love what I've seen so far.
Is there art scenes and depictions of the planes? The cover gives a great view into the maelstrom!
Oh, and by the by when will the official cover for this go up and replace the placeholder stuff?
Much of the interior art is maps of the Outer Sphere, but we do have some cool art showing some of the planes. And by "cool" I mean "not drawn by me." :)
Much of the interior art is maps of the Outer Sphere, but we do have some cool art showing some of the planes. And by "cool" I mean "not drawn by me." :)
Haha, thanks. I'm big into maps, especially planar maps! Can't wait!
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(such as the "Demiplane of Cheese," which almost made it into an official Wizards product...)
Is it sad that I've run a Planescape game where this would have been a perfect fit?
My players were fascinated by the idea of imported planar cheeses, and held all of their meetings in a cheese shop in Sigil, rather than an inn. Their greatest caper even involved stealing a still-life portrait of some cheese from a demon lord!
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Happy nerd-joy!
I was looking at the blog and the fabulously deranged cover illo... and it's of the keketar protean, a monster I had the honor of designing (the two lower-grade proteans are in an upcoming PF Bestiary) and my only contribution to this book, but it got a cover illo! SWEET!
I think this calls for a HOODY-HOO!!!
Happy nerd-joy!
Jason did an awesome job on the keketar stats (and the other two protean subtypes that will appear later on). The collaboration there was a joy, because to be perfectly honest, Jason had a firmer grasp on the crunchy side of monster design, and he put some seriously wicked stats to those three critters of mine.
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Jason did an awesome job on the keketar stats (and the other two protean subtypes that will appear later on). The collaboration there was a joy, because to be perfectly honest, Jason had a firmer grasp on the crunchy side of monster design, and he put some seriously wicked stats to those three critters of mine.Happy nerd-joy!
Well, big ups to my collaborator who actually created the monster concepts, society, and all the rest of the so-called fluff, but I was only too happy to apply my deviousness to the crunchification of these emissaries of absolute chaos.
Of course, I'm also curious to see the final product and what ended up on the cutting room floor... :)