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well, what i ended up doing, with mixed success was have an exchange for each of the mini quests. The players had determination equal to their remaining fame points with edge based on the total fame they had accrued. If they ran out of determination the interview would have ended before all exchanges were complete. Used the team rules for the players while using the single participant rules for Vourne.

less than 3 won exchanges - prosecuted
3-8 martial law
9 self governance

Made Vourne a level 16 cavalier with the skilled heroic npc array gave skills in profession soldier, ride, intimidate, profession barrister, sense motive

overall the verbal duel tactics and such felt odd for what was more of an interrogation of events. I do think the having a limited number of exchanges works better than the default rules of increasing ante vs determination though.


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I'm nearing the end of the campaign with my group and I've been trying to come up with a way of resolving the total fame result in a way that isn't just a binary die roll.

My thought is to have the party have a team verbal duel with Vourne to determine the final state of westcrown. I'm not certain how to set it up though while still using the fame they have gathered.

one thought is to just have a verbal duel using the party's fame as their determination vs vourne whose determination i'll need to figure out and having their remaining fame determine the result. possibly doing a conversion of unspent fame points to edges in the duel. for this way i'm not sure where to put the demarkations of success. probably wouldn't include the westcrown independence option.

another thought is to have the duel be a set number of exchanges based on the number of things (mini quests) they've done in the final chapter and have the result be based on the number of exchanges won ignoring the determination rules for verbal duels with fame granting edge.

Lastly same as the last but using the party's fame or remaining points as their determination and if they run out they can't make more exchanges.

I'm leaning towards the latter 2 methods, but am not sure how I should stat up vourne for the duel or what thresholds for success should be. Anyone have advice or alternate suggestions?


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current thought is that either shelyn, desna, or abadar will be marked safe next week.


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clearly if pharasma goes ssillameshnik(sp?) would take over. they already supersede pharasma when they feel like it.


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another thing that is will be interesting to see. how will we players be involved?


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Abadar going away would be interesting. death of civilization, banks, and all that. gozreh kicking the bucket could have vast implications for the natural world. Would be neat to see irori do something like the capstone from the old monk of the healing hand.


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I suppose the contention is whether the default 3 burn option is a full action gather power action + a move action gather power action or it is its own thing which costs a full round action + a move action.


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one of my players is playing a kineticist at level 11.

they recently used a blast with a lot of modifiers (empowered maximized composite blast) that would have cost 5 burn.

their claim is that because they have supercharge gathering power as a fullround+move action reduces the burn by 5

supercharge wrote:
At 11th level, when using gather power as a move action, a kineticist can reduce the total burn cost of a single wild talent by 2 points instead of 1. When using gather power for 1 full round, she can reduce the burn cost of a single wild talent by 3 points instead of 2.

given the text of supercharge my understanding is that it doesn't improve the total burn reduction from the fullround+move action variant of gather power and that its main purpose is to improve the action economy of gather power.

gather power wrote:
If she has both hands free (or all of her prehensile appendages free, for unusual kineticists), a kineticist can gather energy or elemental matter as a move action. Gathering power creates an extremely loud, visible display in a 20-foot radius centered on the kineticist, as the energy or matter swirls around her. Gathering power in this way allows the kineticist to reduce the total burn cost of a blast wild talent she uses in the same round by 1 point. The kineticist can instead gather power for 1 full round in order to reduce the total burn cost of a blast wild talent used on her next turn by 2 points (to a minimum of 0 points). If she does so, she can also gather power as a move action during her next turn to reduce the burn cost by a total of 3 points...

the bolded part in gather power not being overridden by the supercharge text is the main reason for my thoughts that it wouldn't be 5 reduction


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clearly the disappearance of the drow is a result of the

Spoiler:
Time travel shenanigans having extra effects
in return of the runelords


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Omegon wrote:
But, like the concept of Elves or elf looking creatures that live deep underground and worship demons is not exactly something WoTC can sue Paizo over. That's what they should keep.

Since the Pathfinder Drow weren't really Demon worshipers, as they had made efforts to align the Drow more with the Proteans than Demons, it would be very surprising if they made the new underground elves demon worshipers, since that's more like the Forgotten Realms Drow than the Golarion Drow.

It's kind of funny how the new underground elven people being generally pretty friendly makes it so they're all kind of Drizzt-clones, though.

Was there something more recent that changed them to be aligned with proteans? I haven't read any 2e AP material and I recall each of the drow houses being aligned with a specific demon lord.


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Another thing that came up was removal of the 8 schools of magic.
I believe replacement schools mentioned were school of the battle mage and school of the protean form


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Fahrenheit isn't an abomination. if we want to compromise and use a unit that makes everyone unhappy we could use the abomination that is Rankine;)


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the quests related to aspects of those 2 APs were the result of backer quests so take them with a grain of salt.

that being said I would love for the former to get made if only so that it would be a chance for paizo to finally fix the massive problems of that AP through owlcat.
The latter they would certainly have the assets for and they have mentioned the location in kingmaker as well so. who knows.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the abomination vaults game


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oh, one thing i noticed in the video, it seemed like you could make combination attacks with allies. like ezren making the wall of fire and then amiri spinning through it to launch balls of fire. The teamwork aspect seems like it could be really cool.


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from the video it looks like it would be more like Gauntlet or Champions of norath than diablo which would be a plus in my opinion (I Hate the loot loop of diablo likes). Looks like it could be fun though i can understand it not being to people's preferences for a pathfinder game.


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I want these covers, but I also want the PDF from my subscription, but I don't have enough shelf space to have two copies of the book. side note, what would I call this printing in order to preorder from my local game store?


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i would like to +1 wanting it to be called something other than monster core. I liked the term bestiary more because it implied that not all of the creatures in it were monsters to be slain


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Do dragons have their own names for their various types other than just colors/metals?


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Speaking of comic based settings I'm kinda interested in the Sentinels of the multiverse RPG setting which also has a meta setting where the comics were actually made.


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In an attempt to bring things back on topic
I'm personally a fan of the setting of alpha complex. I greatly enjoy all of the contradictions of the setting and the doublespeak you need to use to survive....or not.


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Do the Elves have a name for their ancestry other than elf?

I ask mostly due to annoyance at trying to find golarion elf portraits for the crpgs that have the eyes right


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Awesome! I was kinda expecting it to go the other way.


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I was making an mbeke dwarf which would ostensibly be from the mwangi expanse where the common language is mwangi. if the common(taldane) that everyone gets counts for the common language granted by ancestry this dwarf with 10 int would not know the common language of their homeland which seems a little jarring.

So is the common language granted by your ancestry separate from the free common(taldane) playing in PFS gives you?

As far as I know the only regions that have different languages for common are tian xia and mwangi if that has any factors for a decision on this


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Hi James,

I'm GMing second darkness and have been converting it to pathfinder 1E as I go. Right now I'm looking at the aboleth mage Ndtkia. From my understanding aboleth mage was an entry in the monster manual that was basically an aboleth with 10 levels in wizard. I'm debating between whether it would be better thematically to rebuild an aboleth with 10 levels in wizard or psychic and just using a different published Alghollthu around the same CR. Any suggestions?


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I'd like something like the story kin that were based off the harrow cards


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Name: Nana Darklight
Race: kitsune
Class: magus (eldtritch archer)15
Adventure: Descent into midnight
Location: Feasting Damnation
Catalyst: destroying two tentacles makes it angry

Nana successfully saved her ally krogus the slayer of men from being crushed with a well placed fireball destroying two of the damnation's tentacles. On the next turn a new tentacle was appeared right next to her and pulled her into her abyssal doom.

Name: Marciana
Race: aasimar
Class: channeler of the unknown who thinks they are a cleric of Iomedae
Adventure: Descent into Midnight
Location: Feasting Damnation
Catalyst: The feasting damnation does not like losing tentacles

Cia managed to channel away two tentacles, making her a target. one attack and one constrict later she was lost to the party until they convince the shaitan to grant a wish to bring her back.


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the time in the graphic at the top does not match the time in the text for the kingmaker stream.


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Jim Butler wrote:
Ionnus wrote:
Jim Butler wrote:
Ionnus wrote:
Won’t let me purchase, says requires an Echo. I only have an iPad and galaxy, no actual Alexa device.

Are you trying to purchase after playing through your Amazon Alexa app on your iPad or Android device? Ownership of an Echo isn't required.

-Jim

Yes, it says “product purchases are not supported on your device. Please use an Echo device for any purchases.”

I spoke with Amazon, and the requirement to own an Alexa device should be removed by August 10th, allowing those who use the app to purchase normally.

-Jim

will this also fix the app on windows 10 on the east coast saying purchases not supported in your region?


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I'm attempting to play the new episodes but am getting a product purchases not supported in your region. I'm in the US. note i am using the alexa app for PC rather than another device.


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hey,first a little background, so when I GM an adventure path I give each player one divine intervention. The intent is that if the character dies or the group thinks a TPK is inevitable or a TPK occurs they don't have to lose the character. who the player's character worships determines who helps. Good gods usually just help, but neutral and evil gods will likely have consequences afterwards (the corruption rules are fun). If they don't worship a specific god a random one intervenes.

Now that the background is out of the way, I recently had a TPK at the BBEG of book one of legacy of fire. One of the characters decided to use the divine intervention. The god they worship is Erastil and I'm having a hard time figuring out how he would actually intervene. Do you have any suggestions on how he might intervene?


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Also Catfolk are currently well in last place on the Wrath of the righteous choose the race poll. Cosmo why do you not like cats?


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Cosmo why did you have make one of my players acquiesce the request of a glabrezu to wish down the wards of a building surrounded by demons?

The AP didn't say what the demons did if that actually happened. So I spent 12 hours figuring out what everyone inside was going to do and what all of the demons were going to do if the players didn't interfere. Prerolled everything for 3.5 rounds. There were 75 things things in the initiative. It took 4 hours to go through 4 rounds of initiative. I blame Cosmo for my strange need to go into that much detail.


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I found these very enjoyable to listen to. I also found them useful inspiration as a GM Especially the scribbler. The Interactions between the iconics members was golden. Still need to listen to mummies mask, though I'm waiting until I end up GMing it or after I've played it.


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I blame Cosmo twicefold. Not only did it take me an hour and a half to put the critical hit deck into my roll20 campaign, I can't just copy it into my other campaign due to pretending to be fiscally responsible, so must do it again.


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sessions 5

A new day a new trip into kelmerane. The reclaimers opted to take a mor circuitous route to the city going around the pesh field and entering from the north. in order to enter the town proper they needed make their way up the hillside. at the top they reached a gatehouse where some gnolls with hyenas we keeping a lookout. The reclaimers made managed to kill the gnolls, but not before they raised an alarm. Sif had noticed a winged woman come from the tannery and watch the altercation before returning to the tannery.

The reclaimers had some time to prepare before another squad of gnolls came to investigate. Sif climbed atop the gatehouse to get a vantage point for the oncoming response team and managed to snipe 2 of them before they could react. The other two gnolls attempted to hide between buildings, but Sif jumped across the rooftops to get one of them and Astion ran in and struck down the other.

That dealt with, the reclaimers decided, against the advice of almah, to make straight for the battle market. Noticing the nice openings near the top of the building Astion and Sif started climbing the building. They got up one level before the winged woman asked why they didn't just take the front door as she flew up to the opening they were going for. Feeling stupid they moved to above the front door and rained death from above on the two door guards while the rest of the group made their way there. A goblin in a jester suit at the doorway saw the death and attempted to run to the center of the building screaming. Sif having none of that shot him down.


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I blame cosmo that one of my players in 2nd darkness decided to use the 1 divine intervention I that I give each player for some cosmo caused reason. I almost had a TPK too.


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I blame Cosmo that it took me the entire game session to import my wrath of the righteous character into roll20.


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Name: krogus slayer of men
Race: human
Class: fighter 10
Adventure: Endless night
Location: the elf gate
Catalyst: being in melee with a retriever

krogus was the second to join the melee with the drow and the retriever. after taking down 4 drow soldiers in a single swing he was struck by a lightning stare from the retriever. The vonnarc son took advantage of spring attack to pepper krogus with several lethal wounds. The retriever took one more swing of its claws knocked him to one away from his negative con. unfortunately for him there was no one able to heal him before he failed to stabalize

Name: marciana
Race: aasimar
Class: channeler of the unknown who thinks they are a cleric of Iomedae
Adventure: Endless night
Location: the elf gate
Catalyst: an icy stare

cia across the chasm saw that radka the barbarian fashionista extraordinaire was near death. she attempted to save him by channeling concentrated entropy at the retriever and the drow.this bothered the retriever greatly causing it to give cia the icy beam of death freezing her on the spot.

radka who was unconscious as well used his divine intervention which caused neith to weave them back to life


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Zethorn wrote:
Thank you for sharing these. My group was supposed to start LoF but we have had delays due to health issues and Corona Virus. I will be sitting on my first level character for a bit, but glad to see someone else having fun.

No problem, I'll try to keep sharing these. Needless to say, there will probably be spoilers here.

I hope things improve soon.


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I blame Cosmo for me letting my players free the kobold slaves from the drow. Now I have to think about encounters with 200~ kobolds in mind.


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I blame Cosmo that I can't figure out what jobs aren't essential from looking at the list of essentials.


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I don't see a contradiction. the first is saying that there will likely be less in stock. the second is saying they will probably be there.


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So in first edition when you are confused one of the possibilities is babbling incoherently. Did you have any favourite things to babble when you were playing a character rolled that result?


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Session 4

The party approached kelmarane via the river. On an opposite bank they saw a man drinking from the water. Upon seeing the group the man hissed and started running towards a building in the distance. Sif took a few shots at the man, though none struck true.

Once in kelmarane Sif went ahead of the group to scout a bit. She identified a slithering sound around one of the buildings and urged the group in a different location.

They then approached the old gatehouse and stirred the attention of Old bonegrinder. Bongrinder dashed out from the ruins and gored Astion. Malek attempting to aid Astion dealt a hearty blow to the dire boar attracting his ire. After a few more strikes from astion and some magic from JJ the boar was slain, though the group was bloodied.

After the group patched themselves up, they continued to investigate the ruins. At one point they heard the sound of a gnoll patrol approaching. Sif took to one of the undamaged roofs and picked them off one by one. afterwards their head were placed on pikes.

Continuing the scouting a pathfinder named Felliped was found. He explained that he had been escaped from capture. The group promised to take him back to the monastary after they checked a few more buildings.

Seeing Smoke coming from the tannery across the river the party attempted to lure out the occupants by firing into the building and using the bridge as a chokepoint. Undrella ignored the single arrow that made it into the building. Astion started yelling insults in an attempt to call whomever was inside out.

The peryton inside the other building heard the commotion and decided to investigate the noise. Seeing an injured Uncle Malek the peryton decided to mark him as food. the Peryton did a few swoops down to attack malek while others ran for one of the nearby buildings. Malek attempted to hide underneath the bridge but was not able to escape the Perytons hunger. Astion valiantly rescued uncle malek after he was brought low. Sif from a nearby rooftop managed to take down the Peryton.

Deciding that was enough for one group for the day they made their way back to the monastary to report what they found.


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Zapp wrote:

To my knowledge no dev or other official has responded to my threads.

ummm if you scroll up you should see a post by Michael Sayre, one of Paizo's organized play developers.


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Is there a story behind your distrust of clowns?


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honestly I think guidlines weren't included for this for GMs as pacing is often something the players control rather than the GM. Afterall players usually have the option to retreat even if they rarely use that option


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Session 3
Going through the door to the laboratory the group that could see had some time to look around, when suddenly oozes attacked. An ooze attempted to engulf Astion, but even blinded he was able to avoid the slime. Sif took a swing at the other ooze which then engulfed her. The ooze then entered through all of her pores and took root. The other ooze was switly slain.

Leaving the basement the party moved around the upstairs, killing a massive wolf spider. Eventually finding themselves in the kitchen with the pugwampis. After several tripups in the kitchen including Uncle Malek failing to stick the language on the long jump the kitchen was cleared.

The monastary was then cleared and the rest of the caravan moved in. Sif had dreams that night of battle in a war wielding a bow freezing beings of fire Followed by a vision of the bow underneath the courtyard. That morning she dug up the bow.

The party was then tasked with scouting kelmarane and making guerilla strikes by Almah. She wasn't quite clear on what she wanted them todo.


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Set wrote:
Cosmo's Slightly More Evil Twin wrote:

They can only react to Pugwampis if they know that they are there. :)

...just sayin'.

Foot tall Pugwampi. Waist high ground fog. Liberal sprinkling of caltrops, bear traps and difficult terrain.

Also animals are immune to the pugwampi unluck aura. So toss in some rapid bat swarms and blood sucking trained weasels, just to add injury to insult.

This is all Cosmo's fault for making me think of evil pugwampi encounters. :)

I blame Cosmo that that is more work than I am willing to put in to add to my legacy of fire campaign.


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Dominos sent me a coupon for a free pizza that can only be redeemed for an online delivery order. Dominos won't deliver unless the bill comes to over $16. Why Cosmo?