I was making an mbeke dwarf which would ostensibly be from the mwangi expanse where the common language is mwangi. if the common(taldane) that everyone gets counts for the common language granted by ancestry this dwarf with 10 int would not know the common language of their homeland which seems a little jarring.
So is the common language granted by your ancestry separate from the free common(taldane) playing in PFS gives you?
As far as I know the only regions that have different languages for common are tian xia and mwangi if that has any factors for a decision on this
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There is a ruling somewhere that you would get both Common and Mwangi, but I'm in line at the grocery store at the moment.
It's a recent ruling. Perhaps someone else can link it here.
Languages
"All Pathfinder Society characters are literate and speak Common (Taldan) as well as any other languages granted by their ancestry. Regional languages (Core Rulebook 432) are uncommon and require access."
That means that if your race does not grant Common (I think this is only some of the rare Mwangi races) you get Common (Taldane) in addition. If your Race grants Common, you get Common (Taldane).
Home Region
This is also the stage at which you should choose your character’s home region (Core Rulebook 420-429), and in the case of human characters, your ethnicity. (Core Rulebook 430-431). Choose one nation (such as Varisia or Taldor). You are considered a citizen of that nation. For the purpose of fulfilling prerequisites and Access conditions for uncommon character options, you are treated as being from that nation as well as the larger region in which it’s found (such as the Saga Lands for Varisia or the Shining Kingdoms for Taldor). More information on the Nations of Golarion is available in the Lost Omens: World Guide.
In addition, if your homeland is Mwangi, you would be able to take Mwangi as a common language using your intelligence points.
Character Options - Mwangi Expanse.
The suggested rarity adjustments of ancestries for characters from the Mwangi Expanse as described on page 23 are not used in Organized Play.
The language changes are part of the rules on page 23. However they are not specifically part of the "ancestry rarity changes".
Other than that I am not aware of any ruling that would grant a character their home region's language. (Though I may have missed a forum post.)
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You did. I linked it above, from a thread asking this same question a month ago.
That was in response to:
LO Mwangi Expanse is new. So maybe I'm missing something. But it looks like sanctioning needs one minor add.Some of the rare ancestries now sanctioned have a potentially frustrating gap in starting languages. The Conrasu, for example says the following: you get the following starting languages - Mwangi, Rasu
Which I covered in the first part of my post (if your character explicitly gets Mwangi, you get Taldane as well.)
I am currently following up on the second part (If your home region is Mwangi, and your ancestry grants "Common")
I have now done so.
Alex Spiedel says that the Language section on page 23 of Mwangi Expanse does apply:
When playing characters native to the Mwangi Expanse, the GM should replace “Common” as the default language with “Mwangi” instead.
So all characters who select Mwangi as their home region, and whose ancestry grants "Common" gain Mwangi *and* Taldane.
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Awesome! I was kinda expecting it to go the other way.
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Alex Spiedel says that the Language section on page 23 of Mwangi Expanse does apply:
So all characters who select Mwangi as their home region, and whose ancestry grants "Common" gain Mwangi *and* Taldane.
When playing characters native to the Mwangi Expanse, the GM should replace “Common” as the default language with “Mwangi” instead.
So if you have an existing character whose home region is The Mwangi Expanse, and you took Mwangi with a bonus language, presumably you can add something else now?
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You did. I linked it above, from a thread asking this same question a month ago.That was in response to:
Which I covered in the first part of my post (if your character explicitly gets Mwangi, you get Taldane as well.)LO Mwangi Expanse is new. So maybe I'm missing something. But it looks like sanctioning needs one minor add.
Some of the rare ancestries now sanctioned have a potentially frustrating gap in starting languages. The Conrasu, for example says the following: you get the following starting languages - Mwangi, Rasu
*sigh*
Yes, the original question in that thread was about rare ancestries, but the post I linked to was Alex clarifying that it applies to ALL characters from the region.