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Kislum Thrallmaster wrote:
Thorin, you didn’t actually verbally respond to me so if you are expecting a response you need to actually verbally say something before Kislum continues
TBH it was more of a “I’m here” post. Thorin was sent to make an alliance with your guild. But he doesn’t really have his own plans or goals here. And I was kind of drawing a blank, but I didn’t want to just be silent. Hence a thought post…
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Hrothgarn, Thorin, John and Kislum::
The dwarf listened and watched, fully aware that the vampire was looking at them with the gaze of a predator. This was as good a test as any to see if Kislum could control the dark urges which would forevermore curse her existence. For all of her obvious power, he pitied her. Her existence was not one which he would wish for himself. What was worrisome was the obvious power behind those eyes. The world, he mused, would certainly suffer with her.
He was, however, glad to have Hrothgarn by his side. The task ahead required an imposing presence to bring stability to the district. Something that he did not have in anyway approaching that of his comrade. Fortunately, in this task, the destabilizing forces had already gotten what they wanted. Which meant that 'all' they had to do was convince a terrified populace that no looting or the like was in their interests.
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Hrothgarn, Thorin, Kislum, and John:
Thorin sighed. Players. He thought, bitterly. They tended to be grandiose, and for good reason. Few were not when given the chance to be larger than life. But he told himself not to judge, for there was little choice for some. It was clear to him that the “world that was” had become a shadow and a dream, and that the bodies they now were in changed everyone. The woman that Kislum was had died. Now she truly was a vampire, and the nature of that was changing her just as surely as being a dwarf was changing himself. Thorin was who he was, and he accepted the changes gladly. Even if he did not have a choice in the matter.
”It seems.” He said, choosing his words carefully. ”That your cruelty serves a purpose beyond merely entertaining yourself. It is…hmm. Ideal. That our goals are aligned. Does paying his debt end with his head parting his shoulders?” The dwarf asked. He was still judging these new ‘comrades.’
Given that he was dealing with a vampire, he was truly glad that he had invested so heavily in keeping his mind free from both scrying and charms alike. One could never trust even your own thoughts when dealing with a creature of the night.
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Hrothgarn, Thorin, and John:
"Then I will speak freely." Thorin said, striding forward towards the man. He put his hand out, inviting him to grasp hands together.
"You've got the measure of us, on why we are here." He said, looking the man in the eyes. "Hrothgarn and I are smiths by trade. We prefer to build rather than tear down, and respect those with the strength of mind and arm to do the same. If I have the right measure of you, well, you've obviously got half of that in abundance. So, tell me." He continued. "This guild of yours. What does it want. And what it is that you seek?"
He did not bother to hide that he was judging John based upon how he answered. While Thorin respected strength, that was only half of the equation. The 'why' was just as, if not more, important when it came to taking the measure of a man.
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Hrothgarn, Thorin, John:
The dwarf spoke up. "Look at how he glows." He said, his eyes narrowed. "I've seen that before. Usually..." He almost said 'raid bosses' but he truly detested such terminology. It broke all immersion, and it was a reminder of the world-that-was. The place they came from which he wished to forget. "...it is hard to attain. I've only seen it on so-called unkillable monster and demons. It is but a myth for normal humans." Aside from the glow, he took in the human and could not help but approve of the aesthetic. Certainly, he wasn't able to hide the power that emanated from him, but aside form that he appeared to belong within this world. And Thorin appreciated that decision. He waited to see what the man might say.
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Hrothgarn and Thorin:
Almost as if on cue the dwarf walked down the stairs, his face grim. ”I don’t understand this place at all.” He said with a shake of his head. ”Ive no reason to harm those here. But I’d leave all the same. I’m of a mind to find the others and see what they are up to, unless you’ve got another plan in mind.”
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Thorin:
”Oi! Listen up.” Thorin said to those chained. ”Any who want to leave can do so. You’ll be under my protection. Any who wish to stay may do so.” He glanced at the guards, confident that they would fail to place any burden upon him by force. He did not understand the faith, but that didn’t mean he would break it needlessly. If any wished to suffer that was their choice. But he wouldn’t stand idly by and allow any to be forced to do so against their will.
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Thorin and Hrothgarn:
Thorin frowned. People were chained to the walls..or other mechanisms. That the emotions were varied gave him pause. He didn't know what he was seeing, but he knew that he didn't like it.
Sense Motive:1d20 + 18 ⇒ (12) + 18 = 30
"I demand an explanation." He said, his voice forceful. He looked around the room, to those chained, to the guards, to any who could hear. He cared not whom gave it. "Do not lie to me."[/b He warned. [b]"For I am not in the mood for it."
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Thorin and Hrothgar:
Perception:1d20 + 18 ⇒ (16) + 18 = 34
Thorin stopped, a frown crossing his face. "Cathedral of chains? I see" Looking to his companion, he said "'I'm going to the second floor. Come with me, or talk to this man about our business, I trust your judgement."
With that, he turned to leave, ready to investigate the sounds. He gave the guards a hard look. "We have been working to contain the destruction occurring outside of these halls. Walk with me if you wish, but if you impede us it will not end well."
Intimidate:1d20 + 14 ⇒ (14) + 14 = 28 Sense Motive on the reactions to this:1d20 + 18 ⇒ (12) + 18 = 30
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Thorin and Hrothgarn::
Thorin was content to watch and listen while Hrothgarn handled the diplomacy. He used the time to look around, seeking out any clues as towards whether or not the clergy were actively assisting those in need.
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Thorin and Hrothgarn:
"There is nothing intrinsically wrong with faith." Thorin responded, his eyes drifting over the architecture. "Though power will inevitably corrupt. And those who desire it will always seek out an avenue to achieve it." He frowned as he considered the best course of action. "I hesitate to use violence, for there is too much unknown here. Let us seek out the priests first, and find what situation this temple is in."
With that said, he jumped off of his comrade's mount, landing on the pavements below with a crunch. The cobblestones took far more damage than the dwarf.
Fall damage, not sure how tall it is. Assuming over 10ft? If so 2d6. If not, then 1d6:2d6 - 6 ⇒ (2, 2) - 6 = -2
Dusting himself off, he walked towards the temple doors and banged upon them with far more strength than what one would expect. The impacts echoed, certain to get the attention of any within.
"I'm glad you are here." Thorin said as he waited for the response. "Aside from the obvious reasons, I am certain that the priests within will take us more seriously given your presence."
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Desseer Arnalc wrote:
An elf with some fiendish traits appears in the sky near the safe house and glides to the ground, walking with a pleasant stroll upon landing. His platinum hair cascades down a little past his shoulders, accentuating an ostentatious dark red outfit with white trim and black accents. His black fiendish wings were certainly factored into the whole aesthetic.
"Is that RARGH I see?!" he says loudly with delight. "Why, I'd recognize that awkwardly large exoskeleton anywhere! Is that an unreasonably large scythe, or are you just happy to see me?! Come here you beautiful she-bug! When did you get here?!"
Note: Sanders, the player of Desseer was never really this gregarious. He was more of a timid (not excessively so, but notably so) guy. This behavior is unusual for him.
One theme of Overlord was that being stuck in the avatar slowly makes a person become more like it? As in, Ainz being undead inhibited his emotions. Not sure if that is the angle you are going for, but if so, it's an interesting one to explore.
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Thorin, Hrothgarn: The Temple:
Thorin breathed a sigh of relief as Desseer flew away. He never liked “PvP” or the like. Most people were obsessed with it and made entire builds designed to dominate. Thorin had made his differently. It was focused mostly on who he wanted to be, rather than what was most effective. But beyond that, it was what he called the “porcupine build.” Make something so hard to crack that other players would decide that it wasn’t worth the trouble. Either from wasted spells or broken equipment. But the elven fiend had shown him quite easily his own limitations. He was dangerous, and not in a berserk demon sort of way.
”Right you are, to the temple.” Thorin said to his comrade. ”But…you know. Forge Fathers. That had a nice ring to it.”
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Just want to say...it is so much fun having this scene with Hrothgarn and Desseer.
Two comrades ride into town, feeling confident in their own abilities. And knowing that whatever comes their way that they have each other's backs. But what they face is something that no force of arms can overcome.
It really has this feel of being in the presence of something mythical. A fiendish elf, flying overhead. Every word sounding like nothing but the truth. He lies to you? Completely believable. He then says that the last thing was a lie? Again, it sounds like nothing but the truth. There is an almost cosmic horror to it, which is only amplified by his game-show host type friendliness. I've been gaming for years, and I have to say that this type of scene is quite a new experience. And one that I am enjoying.
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Thorin, Hrothgarn and Desseer:
Listening to Desseer was like running through the darkness. Each word was like a step, threatening to pitch one to the ground. The dwarf had no idea of whether or not the fiend had been to the Temple District or if he knew what was going on there. Everything he said sounded completely honest and reliable, which made Thorin instantly distrust it.
He looked up at his companion. "We were sent to forge an alliance." He reasoned. "I do not know if he means too send us away from evidence of atrocities, or if this truthfully is the best way to help the people. But...it does seem to be a solid plan. I have no objections." He would have to suggest to Hrothgarn that he should forge an item or two to protect his mind from scrying, for without that, it was impossible to even think freely.
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Thorin, Hrothgarn and Desseer::
Thorin did not look amused. He was, however, not angry either. Rather he stood where he was, thinking the issue. ”So long as the innocent are not harmed…” He said, as much to himself as anyone else. He let the comments on his build slide off, though he was thankful for them. Having one’s mind read was a weakness he could ill afford. It didn’t help him, however, when dealing with a build like Desseer’s. Every word felt like the truth, even though he knew that it was not the case. It was an unpleasant feeling. As if though the sky appeared green when you knew it was blue. Much of his work had been done to see through illusions, but this was a different issue entirely It bothered him greatly, as the fiend’s explanation sounded not only true, but reasonable. That he couldn’t trust his own senses was disturbing.
”How might we assist, then, in establishing order?” He asked. He wanted to judge what was happening based upon concrete actions, though the mission they were on also was at the forefront of his mind.
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Thorin, Hrothgarn, and Desseer::
Detect magic will show that Thorin's equipment radiates, showing that his otherwise mundane armor is much more than it seems
Turning to Hrothgarn (or more accurately staring straight up), Thorin said "Typical. Desser made NPCs that look like him. With our ally at the gates, I think that the best way for us to keep the townsfolk safe is to meet with the real one." Glancing back at the 'fake' Desseer, he added "That, and if the guild is launching a full scale attack on this town? We will be overwhelmed if we hold our ground anyways. The best we could hope for would be a fighting retreat."
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No…just…as a courtesy don’t take too much of an advantage of it?
“Hey…did you know that your npc followers who mean the world to you are actually dopplegangers? Don’t worry, I’ll kill them for you, because I’m so nice.” <nat 20 bluff that even with -20 for impossibility that I can’t possibly reach>
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Its wild. At lvl 7 I have +18 sense motive, but by RAW Thorin will likely never know when another PC is lying because of the discrepancy in bluff to sense motive modifiers. Well...unless a lie is impossible. Then it is a 50/50 chance of whether he will believe it.
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Dwarf and Giant...and Tiefling:
"Dresser." The dwarf called up. A name he was familiar with, given their mission. The fiendish elf seemed to have some sort of magical watch. Used for telling time, perhaps? It certainly seemed that way. As much as the elf looked like a sell sword, the dwarf looked just like that...a dwarf. As if though his giant companion had found an NPC along the way. He motioned towards all of the fleeing people beneath the three of them. "We have taken these people under our protection." He explained, his voice calm but his eyes hard. "As, to be honest, we had come not expecting a battle to be taken place. I am unaware of anything here that might be of a challenge to you and yours. But perhaps you could fill us in as towards what threat might require reinforcement for one so powerful?" He held his hands out to his side, standing confidently upon his comrade's mount. By all appearances, he was unarmed.
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Dwarf and Giant:
The two headed south, looking for civilians who were fleeing from the carnage engulfing the settlement. From high up on his comrade's mount, Thorin yelled out to them as towards where they could find safety. All the while he kept his eyes peeled, looking for any evidence as towards who had caused his calamity.
"If we cannot find any who have caused this, then we might well have to head towards the center of governance. I have a feeling that the demigods here will not be far from the seat of power."
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Rune-Bound Perception (Su)
Prerequisite: Wearing armor etched with Thorin’s runes.
Effect: While wearing rune-etched armor or gauntlets, Thorin gains constant True Sight and Detect Magic.
Flavor: The runes hum softly with the truths of the world. Glamours, enchantments, and false forms cannot deceive his gaze: to the Runecrafter, all things are as they were truly forged.
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Mechanical interpretation left up to GM.whatever is best for the story
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No One of Consequence (Ex)
Your mythic nature is a cloak that can shield you from the minds and memories of others. Creatures struggle to recognize you, recall your appearance, remember the nature of conversations they had with you, and recount the actions you took when you were in their presence. If a creature makes a deliberate attempt to recall details about time spent with you, it must succeed at a Will save (DC 10 + your tier + your Charisma modifier) to recall anything beyond vague details. In addition, you’re under a permanent nondetection effect with a caster level equal to your character level plus your tier. You can end this effect at any time, and can resume it as a swift action.
10+1+5= DC 16. Given that Thorin has +15 will saves, I don't think that "no one of consequences" will affect him.
I'll take a step back and await for word as to how out abilities interact. Be it seeing through completely to the real Ink, having no clue, or as Rargh suggested a middle ground where he can see a polymorph effect has taken place but not through it.
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Ink, what do you think makes for the better story? Would it be more interesting for Thorin, with his ability to see things as they truly are, to look at Ink and see his true, oozemorphic form beneath the disguise? Or would it be better if Thorin only saw whatever humanoid shape Ink had polymorphed into?
I could definitely see some fun in the former. It would probably be a pretty unique interaction for Ink to have someone who actually sees him. I could imagine Ink walking around as a preacher, only to see the strange fluid creature beneath.
At the same time, if you'd prefer for Ink to remain an enigma, unreadable even by magical sight, I’m totally on board with that too. Just let me know which direction feels more fun to you.
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Question: With true sight, will Thorin see Ink as anything different? I'm really not certain...if the changes are purely physical then I don't think true sight will do anything. If there is any magic or illusion involved, then it will?
I think that Ink's class abilities don't count as illusions and thus true sight won't work, but it's important to find out before it comes up.
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Dwarf and Giant:
"Right." Thoin said, from up high on his comrade's mount. "We need to let the townspeople know that this is a place to be safe. I think that my voice and stature be a mite too small for this task. Think you can get everyone's attention on this?"
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For anyone curious... Thorin has very unusual damage mitigation, and I figured I should explain it — especially since I just did yet another pass through his sheet and had to sit down to figure out how it all stacks up.
Thorin’s build combines the Indomitable creature template and the Guardian sphere, producing an unconventional way of handling incoming damage.:
* Defensive Abilities: An indomitable creature gains the following defensive abilities:
Guardian’s Prowess (Ex): An indomitable creature uses its Hit Dice in place of its base attack bonus when determining the effects of its Guardian sphere delayed damage pool. In addition, an indomitable creature’s delayed damage pool does not bypass the indomitable creature’s damage reduction or resistance when it empties at the end of its turn. When damage is emptied from the indomitable creature’s delayed damage pool, apply the indomitable creature’s damage reduction and resistance to the total damage dealt, not to individual instances of damage (such that 35 physical damage being emptied from the delayed damage pool would be treated as a single instance of 35 physical damage, not the 3 separate attacks that contributed to it).
* Hardened (Ex): An indomitable creature gains an amount of DR/– equal to 3 + 1/2 the indomitable creature’s Hit Dice. If the indomitable creature possesses damage reduction from another source, the indomitable creature may add half the damage reduction gained from this ability to that other source of damage reduction, if to do so would be beneficial. For example, if the indomitable creature possesses DR/silver from another source that would reduce incoming damage, and be more beneficial than the DR/– from this ability, the indomitable creature uses its DR/silver plus half its DR/– against that incoming damage.
Indifferent Defender Guardian
- Delayed Damage: You gain a delayed damage pool equal to your 3 x your base attack bonus. When you receive damage, as part of taking the damage you may redirect all or part of it to your delayed damage pool. Apply damage reduction and resistance before redirecting the damage. You may not redirect damage that would exceed the maximum capacity of the damage pool. Your delayed damage pool empties at the end of your turn each round, inflicting any damage stored in the pool on you, bypassing any damage reduction or resistance you possess and resetting to 0. Any additional effects of the attack, such as poison, are still incurred immediately even if the entire damage of the attack is redirected to the delayed damage pool. Any healing you receive in excess of your maximum hp automatically reduces the amount of damage in your delayed damage pool.
* Greater Delayed Damage
* Endure Pain: When you receive damage from your delayed damage pool, you take it as nonlethal damage. This nonlethal damage ignores any resistance or immunity to nonlethal damage you may possess.
- Endure Pain Converts delayed damage to nonlethal. Ignores immunity/resistance to nonlethal. Doesn’t affect DR.
- Guardian’s Prowess Overrides Guardian norm: DR/resistance does apply when pool empties, to total damage. No exception for nonlethal.
- Therefore the DR/- applies, but only once for the totality of damage
(1) Thorin has delayed damage pool of 28. Each round, up to 28 points of damage he takes goes into there.
(2) Damage hitting Thorin is like clustered shots. This doesn't help him. Damage is added up together and then reduced once, not on each hit.
(3) At the end of the turn, any damage within it becomes nonlethal damage.
(4) His DR is 3+1/2 BAB at DR/-
Now, example.
* Thorin gets hit 3 times in 1 round, for 30 damage each.
* Usually, that would be 24, 24, 24 damage due to his DR. 72 lethal damage total.
* However, due to his template and guardian sphere...all hits are added up at once. 90 damage. Then 28 becomes nonlethal. It is reduced by 6 due to damage reduction.
* So, 22 nonlethal damage taken, 62 lethal damage.
And no, he can't choose to just ignore the delayed damage pool. The strong DR is supposed to be offset by adding all of the damage together. And it means that Thorin is more likely to pass out from nonlethal damage adding up than he is to just die.
Also...the nice thing about having nonlethal? When you heal, it heals for an equal amount of nonlethal. So, in the above example, Thorin took 22 nonlethal and 62 lethal. He then uses a healing gadget.
Heal:2d8 + 7 ⇒ (8, 1) + 7 = 16
That would reduce nonlethal down to 6 and lethal down to 46.
Heal:2d8 + 7 ⇒ (1, 2) + 7 = 10
A second use gets rid of all nonlethal and lethal goes down to 36.
Meaning that it makes healing him have much more bang for the buck.
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Anyways, that's the weirdest part of Thorin's build. It took me awhile of working through it to get it all down. Just wanted to share, as I don't expect anyone else to make such a deep dive into it.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
And in this case it is the same. Bandits took over the town with help of the nobles and enslaved most of the people here.
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I adore that Thorin and Hrothgarn have no way of knowing this. All they seem is a rampage of demigods. The fog of war and making the best choices one can with limited knowledge makes for a great scene.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Half dragon, Dwarf and Giant:
Diplomacy:1d20 + 16 ⇒ (15) + 16 = 31
”Aye.” Thorin called from way up on high. ”It seems to us that your town is under attack. We would assist in securing the safety of the the townsfolk. But if you could tell us exactly what is happening, then we would be in a much better position to lend our aid.”
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Dwarf and Giant:
"While we figure this out, I believe that we need to get as many civilians out of here as we can. It appears as if though the main gate is under attack, from the crashing sounds. But there will be other entrances. Ones that we can quite easily hold." He looked up at his comrade, straining his neck to do so. He could think of many reasons for the destruction occurring. Conquest. Settling a grudge. Even sending a message. But regardless, the wanton loss of innocent life sat ill with him.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Right do we teleport into Cinder. Are supposed to meet up with known people to make an alliance.
But…we see the town under attack from a demon and a giant insect monster. Are we supposed to know who Skar and Rar are? Are we supposed to avoid PvP? And do we know why the town is under attack?
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Dwarf and Giant:
Arriving in Cinder, the dwarf looked around with distaste written on his face. ”This place is in chaos.” He said, with almost an exasperated voice. Looking up at Hrothgarn, he came to the conclusion that they were not going to blend in. ”I truly hope that the people we were sent to ally with are not behind this. Or if they are, that they have a good reason for this bedlam.”
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
It doesn’t matter to me either way. My leadership is being for background right now. Don’t plan to use them for combat and they aren’t even giving any extra equipment.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Could I have the celerity mutant power from the mutant template? I am making my cohort a mutant and saw this power that would be pretty useful to me. If not I will take regen 4/lawful weapons to keep in line with my DR
Celerity (Ex): As a swift action, the mutant gains the benefits of haste for 1 round. This ability can be used once every 1d4 rounds. The mutant gains a +2 bonus on Initiative checks.
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Looks very balanced to me. If anything, it is far less optimized than something like...regeneration that scales off con. Yeah, swift action for +30ft movement speed, +1 hit, +1 AC, +1 Ref and +1 attack. But it's only for 1 round per 1d4 rounds.
That, and if someone casts haste on him? Then it supersedes his super power. Which is another limiting factor in it. So yeah. I personally see no problem with it.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Thorin and Hrothgarn:
"Wait a mite." Thorin said, before he turned to leave. "If I'm going to do this, then there's someone I'd like to bring along. Hrothgarn." He said, a sense of finality in his voice. "I know that I'm not the most..." He idly waved his hands over his body. "Imposing of figures." It was ironic given his sheer amount of musculature, it was a phrase that would have been seen as false modesty in any other context. But he was referencing what were in effect demigods that he was traveling to meet. "He has the size that will demand respect when we meet them. But more importantly? The lad is dependable. Trustworthy." He knew Hrothgarn from before the...event...which had made them all one with Yggdrasil. And he respected him, for he saw a kindred soul in the giant. Someone who got it when it came to crafting. Sure, Thorin was a rune crafter, while Hrothgarn used the much more common arcane magic that even the dwarves as a people were embracing, but Thorin was mature enough to acknowledge quality. The items made by Hrothgarn were durable enough that even Thorin doubted as towards whether he could break them, and that was saying something.
"That...and if this goes south, it will be good to have him at my back. There is much that I can endure, but where I'm going? I will fall without the aid of someone reliable like him." There were others in the guild that he had considered asking for. Those with arcane powers that complimented Thorin's abilities. Those who could enhance, confuse, alter and explode the world around them. But at the end of the day, he didn't trust any of them as much as he did Hrothgarn. And if his life was going to be on the line, then it was that trust which he wanted to rely on.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Looks like I don’t have a super power. I’d go with:
Rune-Bound Perception (Su)
Prerequisite: Wearing armor etched with Thorin’s runes.
Effect: While wearing rune-etched armor or gauntlets, Thorin gains constant True Sight and Detect Magic.
Flavor: The runes hum softly with the truths of the world. Glamours, enchantments, and false forms cannot deceive his gaze: to the Runecrafter, all things are as they were truly forged.
Otherwise regeneration if allowed. Wisdom instead of Cha? Also max 1/2 level. Only works when wearing armor, as it comes from his runes, not from anything intrinsic.
I’d lean towards the former as someone else already has regeneration.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Thorin:
”Honesty, then.” Thorin said. ”Nothing real is built on lies.” Then, with the slightest smile, he added ”And it will get hard to explain being…ah…ahead of the adventurer curve.” With a slight shrug he said ”I doubt they’re stupid. They would eventually figure it out, and the sense of betrayal would undo anything diplomatic.”
It was the strangest thing. Ever since he had become trapped…no, part of…this world, he had felt himself slowly changing. Mentally, that was. Becoming more stoic. More straight forward. As a human he had not been so averse to falsehoods, but that had been slowly but surely changing. And it wasn’t a change that he was particularly interested in fighting.
Dwarven Runecrafter (7) Delayed Damage (28) NL (0) Wounds (0) HP (112) AC (36/20/28) Saves (14/13/15, +5 vs spells/SLAs) Initiative (+7) CMD (33/35 trip/sunder) Healing (9/9) Surge (2/2) Share Will (1/1) DR 6/- Resist Fire (15) Vision (Darkvision 60ft, Low Light Vision, Truesight, Detect Magic) Immune (Charm, Possession, Compulsion, Detect Thoughts, Detect Alignment)
Thorin:
While uncomfortable; he reciprocated. ”Yeah. An adventurer. I can do that.” And I assume that we keep who we are and any allegiances hidden? I’d prefer to at least use my name… but I’ll follow your lead.”[/b]