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Hmm. I might have to pick this one up. I’ll have some time starting in the middle of August to run my players through something new. And I’d love for them to get a feel for Starfinder 2e


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And I just printed them out. :D


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This was a delightful read, simple and serene. I really like that Desna, Sarenrae, and Shelyn have a sort of mini-pantheon together known as the Radiant Prism! (A chance that Lost Omens: Divine Mysteries would feature something along the lines of a feat or something similar for being a follower/worshipper of the Radiant Prism?


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James Jacobs your insights are always appreciated, especially if/when some folks don't read through the entire thread and you answer the same question 4-5 times but in slightly different ways. ;)

I'm very happy to be back on the Pathfinder bandwagon.

Cheers!


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I'm excited for both of these products! And Lazurus Games (in Harrisburg, PA) is a participating retailer ... so guess where I'm going Saturday!


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I had a few interactions with Gary and he was always very friendly and helpful. He will be missed. My deepest sympathy to his family and friends.


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Wow! I remember when Darkmoon Vale and Falcon's Hollow seemed to get a fair amount of attention in the early days of "Gamemastery" Modules and even a little bit during the beginning of the 1st edition of Pathfinder. Nice to see it making a comeback of a sort. (Not gonna lie, this does sound pretty good).


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I’m looking forward to eventually doing a Mythic Starfinder campaign now that this book and War of Immortals are coming out for the 2E engine.

Ooooh yes! I hadn’t thought about that. Good point.


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I know it's been mentioned elsewhere, but I'm glad that the SF2e playtest softcover is part of the Starfinder subscription (which I've been considering re-subscribing to).

Soon ,soon I'll be able to create my "Magnum Opus" of homebrew adventures... a Pathfinder/Starfinder crossover AP!

Thank you. :)


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Just wondering if the recently announced "Spore War" high level AP (also a 3 part adventure path I believe) would be a good continuation (like would the starting level of Spore War line up with the ending lvl of Wardens of the Wildwood).


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Zimmerwald thank you so much for the information. You’ve gone above and beyond. I should have plenty to work with now.


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And by extension, who conceived of the concept or promoted the idea of 5 very different Lawful deities uniting in this way? Is there a leader behind the Order (I realize all Hellknight orders have leaders) I’m just wondering (or asking) who’s leading the Godclaw.

My main reason for asking is I have a player, he’s an evil Champion (so we’re still pre-Remastered 2e) and his pretending to be a good Champion. The player is a HUGE fan of Warhammer 40k and in game his character often touts the “glories of the God Emperor) I nudged him into incorporating the Godclaw to help tie him back into Golarion canon. I’m planning a redemption arc for him and I’ll want/need a BBEG to be defeated as part of his final redemption quest. (I have a few potential ideas, but having names etc would be helpful).

Thanks in advance fellow Paizoians for any help.

Dean


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This’ll probably seem random, but Howl of the Wild releases in May?!? (I’m so very excited, I thought it was an August release)!


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My hope is to have a PF2e & SF2e crossover game (I’ve been considering this for years, since SF1e came out). But now that the 2 games will use the same mechanics, I truly hope my dream of a crossover is finally in reach.


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James Jacobs wrote:

Those iconics are 100% owned by Wizards of the Coast.

Dang!

But thanks Mr. Jacobs for chiming in and letting me know.


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I seriously liked all of them, they weren’t all “core” races and of course being designed by Wayne Reynolds was ALWAYS a plus. (They were designed by him, right)?

Does Paizo have the rights to these characters? Does Mr. Reynolds (hopefully WotC/Hasbro doesn’t).

If Paizo owns them, I’d love to see them return in some form, some way.


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Ooooh color me intrigued! I might just have to snag this when it comes out.


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Dancing Wind wrote:

Paizo does not deal with customer service problems in their public forums.

Nor does staff monitor the forums for customer problems. The CS forum was shut down in January, 2022.

If you need help from CS, you'll have to send them an email at the address at the bottom of the page:

customer.service@paizo.com

D’Oh! That’s right I knew that. (I just forgot I knew it). Thanks Dancing Wind.


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Hello customer service,

I just noticed that the above mentioned order was declined? I truly think there's been a hiccup on your end again in which your system used the wrong card (I thought that had been taken care of).

If you could please check and run my card again (it's a Mastercard not a Visa).

I've been expecting Lost Omens: Highhelm and wondered why it hasn't arrived. Now at least I know why.

Thank you.

Dean The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Even though I’m the GM for my group, I can’t help but think about potential animists and exemplars I’d want to create/play. I think an iruxi animist would be cool and a matajjn (sp?) orc exemplar sounds epic! (I might have to play around with this). Oh! A catfolk exemplar whose divine spark comes from Chohar! Ooooh! Yes!

All right, gonna play around now.

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Okay, just on first impressions alone I am really liking both the Animist and the Exemplar. I'm excited that my crew and I will have 5 Fridays to sink our collective teeth and really try these classes. (I've always wanted to participate in a Pathfinder playtest).

And absolutely excited for War of Immortals!


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I am completely excited for this play test and the classes to come. I asked my players if they're interested in being a part of the play test and they ARE! (for work related reasons we're losing one of our players for roughly 2 months (September and October) and so it's been agreed that's when we'll be diving into the play test).

I'll have 3 players (plus myself) but at times I may only have 2 players (one of the remaining players works retail, so his schedule is tough to predict).

I'm really hoping to have some good game play feedback to give. I've never been able to participate in a Paizo playtest before, so I am very excited to have a chance with 2nd edition.

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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I've said it elsewhere, but I'm very excited for the 2nd edition of Starfinder because I have had this idea for a Pathfinder/Starfinder crossover (homebrew) AP and having both games utilize the same system will make it that much easier for me.

A lot of folks list their worries or concerns, their wishlists and whatnot ... but for me the one thing I'm hoping for is that Starfinder 2e has "dedication" feats like PF2e has, and that they're roughly seamless (in so far that you could have say a soldier with the champion dedication for example).

And as many have said, I trust Paizo to deliver the goods. :)


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Oh I like this idea. :)


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This is definitely on my list of must haves. (I just started a PF2e game, and I'm excited for the potential with the player characters and the players themselves. (Running The Fall of Plaguestone for them now) after that, there's talk of them sticking around Etran's Folly and one of the PCs has a storyline we're fleshing out (and then a redemption arc) and I think to culminate everything with running Stolen Fate for them (so I'll definitely want this Harrow Deck).

Lol! that was a long winded way to go about why I want it. :P


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keftiu wrote:
The Ragi wrote:

Since the SF2 crew is around this comment section - any chance we get psionics in this new interaction of the game?

It just matches so perfectly with the theme.

Part of full compatibility with PF2 means you can play a Psychic right out the gate. You won’t see a separate psionics system - it’s just a kind of magic in this setting.

Y’know I was actually thinking about an NPC I’d write-up/stat out for my PF/SF crossover… a lashunta psychic w/ the mystic dedication. (Really hoping SF2e will have the class dedication feats like PF2e does). Imagine all the neat combos!


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One important note that Michael Sayre mentioned during the GenCon Keynote when announcing the class playtest, was that a whole lot of him and James Case can be found within these classes. And given our knowledge of both of their cultural backgrounds, I can certainly see that.

Michael Sayre has roots from the Alaskan Tlingit, a group of indigenous people from the Pacific Northwest of North America. Originally, I'd have bet that Mike's class would've been a martial character like the Gunslinger, but perhaps he did the indigenous-looking caster class instead. "Animist" seems like a safe call then, especially when Mike has talked about wanting to redo the Shaman class in PF2E from the ground up with more culturally-relevant abilities to them.

James Case's roots are also relevant, as some have pointed out the Māori/Hawaiian/Polynesian look of the other class. Given James is in fact Hawaiian, I can see his cultural perspective being given form here. I would've bet, seeing as James worked on PF2E's Psychic and the Remaster's Wizard and Witch, that he'd do the caster class. But instead, maybe the tattoo'd martial class would be a better fit for him here. And the thought of a Rare Hawaiian-inspired "Herogod/Demigod" class (akin to Maui from Hawaiian myth) really gets me super excited to play!

EDIT: And for those pointing out how these Iconics might tie into Arcadia, that makes sense! A lot of Arcadia's influence comes from the fact it's based on the Americas, so Mike and James' cultural influences would make sense to have these characters hail from Arcadia!

Oooh that’s super cool!


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Whoa! I'm completely blindsided by the fact that we're getting a PF playtest on September 1st!!! (I'm SUPER excited and really hope to be able to participate in this playtest).

I'm loving the speculation of who/what these new classes and their respective iconics are or represent. I'm seeing a trend or maybe I mean a theme ... but demigod and animist seem to be the most frequently used terms, and I personally like the ideas behind both.

Man oh man ... is it September 1st yet?

Dean; The_MInstrel_Wyrm


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John Mangrum wrote:

There are two more APs coming for SF 1E next year, both in hardback format: Scoured Stars and Mechageddon!. Then the 1E line is over.

If you want those APs, it's good to subscribe.

Might also note that being subscribed to a largely inactive product line still counts as a subscription for benefits like Paizo Advantage, until they flip it off.

That’s a good point John, thank you. (Scoured Stars did sound interesting as well). I’ll see if the finances can support it.


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I’m with the majority here, I very much enjoyed this post. (Sounds like the Operative is the next field test, was kinda hoping for the mystic honestly). But either way, I’m looking forward to the next field test.


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Hello Starfinder community! (I've been away for a while and I'm happy to say I'm back and starting my subscriptions again). With the announcement of Starfinder 2e I'm eager to get back into the SF setting (but will likely wait until 2e launches) however having said that, that Drift Crisis stuff looks intriguing. It also seems like the SF APs have ... halted (perhaps until 2e arrives)? (I'm sorry I missed "Drift Crisis" when it started and I'm really considering getting the AP chapters for Drift Crashers and Drift Hackers) ... as I understand (though perhaps incorrectly) that a major shake-up happens in those adventures. (And I'd just like to have that information handy).

So, would it be worthwhile to resubscribe to Starfinder (rulebooks and APs) now? Or would it smarter to wait?

Regards,

The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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I for one am completely excited for the coming of SF2e (as I've said previously maybe with this I'll finally be able to create my Pathfinder/Starfinder crossover adventure path). I recently recovered several of the adventure "titles" I had worked up, and as someone stated about the recent "Drift Crisis" SF APs my crossover idea is definitely an homage to those yearly comic book events that I loved growing up as a kid. So for that reason alone I am completely and totally stoked for SF2e!

Oh, I downloaded and printed out the first field test and I really like it. (I'm guessing a future field test might be for the 2e SF Mystic)? I sure hope so.

Oh a related question (although perhaps there's a better place to ask) but I noticed that the SF AP line seems ... almost nonexistent ... is that by design (like are you folks just waiting for 2e to launch and then there will be Starfinder APs again)?

I intend to resubscribe to the Starfinder books and possibly the APs ... but definitely want to wait until SF2e launches (or should I say, closer to its launch).

Regards,

The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Wow! I’ll have to come back and read more of folks reactions to the SF2e news, but I for one am VERY excited (as I have wanted to craft a Pathfinder/Starfinder crossover game for a while now). Seems it’ll be much easier in a couple years.

Ha! Or maybe (just maybe) Paizo will DO a crossover AP (3 parts in PF & 3 parts in SF). That would be fun to see!

Anyway I’m very excited about this announcement. Oh and what the what?!? (RE: Zon-Shelyn)!?!


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Very exciting news Mr. Butler! Thank you for sharing


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7 will be difficult. I'd find ways to add minions.

** spoiler omitted **

Thanks


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So just an update, I did manage to get a copy of the Fall of Plaguestone (it's a little beat up, but that's okay).
Anyway ... I might have 7 players!!! So ... I'm definitely going to need to beef up the encounters, but I'm not sure if I need to increase every encounter in the adventure. (Obviously adding enemies/creatures is easiest) but with certain encounters (boss encounters) would increasing their HD and abilities be smarter?

I'm still somewhat new to PF2e and I'm not sure what I should do to keep the adventure challenging for a larger group.

Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Wow! I'm surprised by the breadth of changes coming with the Remaster. But "good" surprised ... I'm looking forward to the final, printed books.

(I'll have to come back to this thread and really give it a good read).


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The_Minstrel_Wyrm wrote:
I don’t know if this was mentioned or not, but when Howl of the Wild comes out IS there going to be an Adventure Path featuring the crew of the Zoetrope as NPCs and we journey with them to find the new Wardens? Cuz that’d be cool! Count me in!

A possible answer...

** spoiler omitted **

It DOES sound like a good possibility ☺️


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I don’t know if this was mentioned or not, but when Howl of the Wild comes out IS there going to be an Adventure Path featuring the crew of the Zoetrope as NPCs and we journey with them to find the new Wardens? Cuz that’d be cool! Count me in!


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In roughly a month I'm going to start a new group w/ PF2e and run The Fall of Plaguestone as the groups intro to 2e. Knowing that Etran's Folly is in or near Isger, I'd love some additional information on Isger, maybe seeing Etran's Folly on an updated map (just for a point of reference).

But a lot of what everyone has offered or suggested is certainly very interesting.


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… I have a player asking me what’s the most racist region in Golarion. (I actually think he means more human-centric) but maybe having a low opinion or even a low tolerance for non-humans.

He’s going to be playing a human Champion/Redeemer and I’m wondering if he’s looking to set up something BIG for his character to overcome like an injustice to fight, or something along those lines.

(When I thought he was just asking for human-centric regions I suggested Absalom or Taldor) but then he throws racist into the equation so I thought probably Cheliax?

If it helps, I’ll be running The Fall of Plaguestone for him and the rest of the group.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Possibly a related question, but are there plans to have class specific sheets for Magus and Summoner (Secrets of Magic), Gunslinger and Inventor (Guns and Gears), Psychic and Thaumaturge (Dark Archive) and even the forthcoming Kineticist (Rage of Elements)?

Thanks in advance,

The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Cori Marie wrote:
They typically do not reprint adventures, but never say never. They didn't used to reprint adventure paths either and now they do if they sell out.

Thanks Cori. :)

I did some additional looking/searching and I could get a new copy from Amazon or good/used copy for $15-$17 ... so I'm considering that.


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Will a print version of this adventure ever be available again? (I'm looking to start up a new PF2e game and I'd really like to run this module for my players. (Lots are long-time friends/gamers) others are new to it (and most/all) are new to Pathfinder 2e.

(Worst case scenario I realize I could buy and download the PDF) but I'd really like to have a print copy.

Thanks in advance for your time.

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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I hadn’t actually considered that redeeming Zon-Kuthon would erase Nidal. Hmm. Maaaaybe I’d homebrew this … but I already have a BIG homebrew project in mind.

Guess we’ll see ; )


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Hello.
As the title says, I’m curious if there’s any thoughts on Mythic Adventures getting a 2e revision. Part of the reason I’m asking, I’m in a Facebook Pathfinder group and members were posting their favorite PF art. Someone posted a scene of Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon fighting (and it looks like Shelyn is attempting to disarm Zon-Kuthon of his Glaive (that is currently her Glaive)). Any that sparked the idea of an AP (1-20 and possibly new Mythic rules) of bringing Dou-Bral back and ending the tyranny/influence of Zon-Kuthon. (Not sure how to really explain it better).

Anyway it sounds like a potentially interesting AP.

Regards,

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Happy Pride fellow beloved Paizoians!

I've been away for a while (nothing to do with negative treatment or any such nonsense as that) finances and struggling with what I can and cannot afford to do.

But gaming and Paizo are such a big part of my life, and I've missed it, missed this wonderful community, and missed receiving boxes or sturdy media-mail envelopes every month. :)

So, I'm happy to say I'm back, and very soon I'll be back subscribing and back running Pathfinder and even my first Starfinder game! (Very exciting for this soon to be 54 year old gamer).

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


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Well I’m kicking around the idea of re-subscribing to the APs and now the Lost Omens as well. (Just need to wait for a few things to fall into place).

I really do miss Pathfinder.


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1st of all Kent Hamilton's concept art is absolutely amazing! 2nd of all I cannot wait to see more dragon previews! Primal dragon next, please. :)

Dean, the Minstrel Wyrm


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I am extremely excited for this book release. (I had said elsewhere that I'm really feeling nostalgic for both Pathfinder and Starfinder and I'm seriously thinking about getting back into these RPG systems/settings.

Howl of the Wild looks and sounds amazing, incredible, and FUN! Not familiar with Kent Hamilton but his artwork is stunning. The attention to minute details is awe-inspiring. I'll definitely be picking up this book. (Related question ... will there be a pocket edition? It's become my new favorite style for RPG books).

Not a deal-breaker if not (it seems to me that the Lost Omens books don't have pocket editions).

Not sure if I'll re-subscribe to the RPG line or not. But seriously thinking about re-subscribing to the AP line.

Thanks for rekindling my interest in Pathfinder (and Starfinder).

Dean

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