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Gustav 'Face' Bravos wrote:

really? still not colored?

We do have colored versions of our bases available on Paizo.com here...

https://paizo.com/store/pathfinder/accessories/pawns

I think he is (as am I) looking for a quick n easy solution, not click 30 times trying to get a selection of colors and sizes individually. Honestly thats kind of a PITA. Something that was just a package of say 4 of each color, of each size would be an insta-buy for me, and probably others.

As a side note, as much as I normally recommend Foxit Reader for all my PDF view/print needs, I have to say stick with Adobe for this one. For some reason all the character sheets *except* Amiri, Harsk, Sajan, and Valeros print with the character art upside down if you use Foxit to print. The others are fine.

Well that would explain why folks who tried to redeem the codes from our local con this past weekend couldnt,... they are not actually gift certificates.

Regardless of if you are for or against replays, for whatever reason, you have to realize there is going to be an initial problem of availability of scenarios. This problem has already reared its ugly head with Starfinder. I understand why there are only two scenarios published a month, and obviously we dont want to rush Paizo as we would rather have quality scenarios, but in the mean time there isnt going to be much to do.
If we had unlimited 1e replays, at least for the first year or two (at which point Im betting there would be enough content for 2e that 1e would just die out naturally, as previous editions of games such as AD&D did).

That said, I do think the reasons for disallowing replays, and perhaps slightly laxer rules regarding them should be examined. I see old PFS players in my store all the time playing 5th Ed, and when I ask them why they don't play Pathfinder anymore, 9/10 of the time the answer is along the lines of it became too hard to find games they could play anymore, so they moved to another system where that wasnt an issue for them.

Then we lose the sczarni, and now the scarab sages.

Wait, what? Did I miss something? They didn't say that any faction was going to be dropped, just one added.

Unfortunately it is just a waiting game, as it is all handled by a single person, Tonya Woldridge, and she is *SUPER* busy between cons, the holidays etc. If it is any consolation it took 7 months for my promotion to go through, and I have been doing VA duties before Venture-Agent was a rank.

Does anyone have a good source of pawns for the scarab sages? I have Tahonikepsu, Sinohotep and Grand Master Torch, but I cannot find any full body images of Amenopheus or Dhiara.

Where is Tahonikepsu from?

I do not think you'd need the boon for druid, as the options in it are open for druid anyway. I could be mistaken, though.

Opps,.. and this folks, is why you should not attempt to make new character concepts at 3am. Still, the list of where it is useful is helpful. Thanks folks!

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Michael White wrote:

So I have a boon (Mounted Tradition) that allows me to use a special mount matching my race.

Quote:

If you have the divine bond or mount class feature, instead of choosing an animal companion from the list provided in the class description, you may instead call a mount from the list below so long as you are a member of the corresponding race.

Out of curiosity, what boon is that/where is it from, and what animals does it make available?

The boon as, is mentioned in my OP, Mounted Tradition. I got mine back in Season 5, when like none of these races were legal so it confused the heck out of me. Now a bunch are legal. It is also part of the RSP, which makes it much more common. I think three other people at my store have a copy ATM.

Catfolk: Big Cat (must be level 7) which is the one I want to use
Dhampir: Wolf (must be level 7)
Goblin: Goblin Dog (must be level 4)
Tengu: Axe Beak (must be level 4)
Grippli: Giant Frog (must be level 7)
Kitsune: Wolf (must be level 7)
Kobold: Giant Gecko (must be level 4)
Nagaji: Giant Chameleon (must be level 4)
Vishkanya: Megalania (must be level 7)

So I have a boon (Mounted Tradition) that allows me to use a special mount matching my race.

If you have the divine bond or mount class feature, instead of choosing an animal companion from the list provided in the class description, you may instead call a mount from the list below so long as you are a member of the corresponding race.

Based on that wording I am guessing animal companion (such as from a druid / hunter) does not qualify, which makes me sad because I totally had a character concept I wanted to play with as a druid.

So help me out here. Paladin, Cavalier, and Samurai. What else would qualify to use this boon?

The boon says it can only be used once per season. It doesn't say you must use one labeled for the current season.

Someone asked Tonya a question about the Expanded Narrative Boon at GenCon, and I asked for clarification. The response was they accumulate, and dont go away (until used of course). So if I have the Season 7 Expanded Narrative Boon with 2 recharges and dont use them, then I get the Season 8 and earn 2 more, I have four recharges to use in Season 9 if I wish.

Have: Changling, Elemental Slayer, Mounted Tradition, Horror Resistance, Treasure Map, Family Tradition, Magaambyan Dilettante, Niche Specialist, Expedition Manager, Explorers Endurance. (Man, I do too many cons)

Want: Catfolk, Ratfolk.

I'm currently at GenCon, and will be chained to either the Info Desk or the Reporting Desk for most of the con.

I would *love* to get in on this if possible. This year, not only am I going alone, but I am Tier 1 Staff so I am going to be pretty much chained to the front desk in the Sagmore.
It's going to be particularly bad on Friday where I work a back to back shift from 7am to 7pm and then IMMEDIATELY attend the Solstice Scar special until 1am. But even the other days where I only have 12 hour shifts are going to be bad if I crash.

I know the OP was asking about characters, but as other people also mentioned physical comfort stuff, Im gonna add, a sweatshirt. I know, I know, the weather says its going to be hot and Im crazy right?
From previous experience, they turn the AC *all* the way up and its actually fairly cold in there.

It is unlikely based on a number of factors

I'm guessing no more SF tables means there likely wont be anymore Special tables either? :(

I'm currently looking at ticket sales and talking with the Gen Con leads about opening up some more tables on sold out games, as well as redistributing tiers for Solstice Scar. I will post here when I know the date/time those updates will go live, to assist you in being ready to pounce and purchase tickets.

Any update on this, or is it still up in the air?

Yeah, what Walter said. You're kinda hosed because only one person (Tonya) can do it, and shes also the only person who can do piles of other things, plus shes got a bunch of Cons, including GenCon, Starfinder release, and a new Pathfinder season. I got nominated in August, and didn't get "approved" until March. So based on that timeline your half way there!

I'm currently looking at ticket sales and talking with the Gen Con leads about opening up some more tables on sold out games, as well as redistributing tiers for Solstice Scar. I will post here when I know the date/time those updates will go live, to assist you in being ready to pounce and purchase tickets.

My apologies for the badge snafu. May/June passed in a convention blur. Making notes to make sure we don't have the same issues next year.

Cheers,
-T

Yay!!!! Thank you thank you thank you.

Yes, but there's no events to sign up for, as Starfinder was filled before badges were released.

And I still haven't gotten my GM/staff badge.

For me, the entire point of going to GenCon is to be able to do things I can't do easily locally, or where having boatloads of folks makes it a much cooler experience, ie specials, and of course Starfinder.

I was almost beaten to death with a broom which only happens in one scenario I think....

Suddenly I dont feel so bad for being dropped to -2 by a bag. I still get razzed about that.

Hi folks,
Due to a number of players at my location who have played / GMed lots, trying to schedule games everyone can enjoy has become a bit of a challenge. I was looking at Gallows of Madness, as it is listed as a module with 3 parts.
My question is, are those 3 parts short enough to fit in a typical "PFS 4 hour slot" or are going to require breaking up each part into multiple sections (causing other issues). Do to scheduling, if they fit into 3 4-hour slots, its perfect, if not I need to investigate other options.

Feedback is most welcome, particularly from anyone who has run these as PFS adventures.

Whelp, I finally aquiessed to the insanity. I just signed up for a T1 HQ slot. See ya all there!

Awesome! But, any way we can get the associated pdfs for our game store purchases as well?

I think the question was "Is there a way I can buy a physical product from my store and gain this benefit, but also get the associated pdf?" ^_^

This. This needs to be a thing. A while ago, I ordered the newest book for the Dresden Files RPG from my game store. Evil Hat (the publisher) had the option if the retailer signed up as a retail location, where they could download a PDF copy of the book, and hand it out however they wanted to anyone who purchased a hardcopy of it (CD, USB key, email, etc). They also had an option for a code to use on their store site which allowed me to download it (which is what we used). Currently, the only way to get a free PDF with the purchase of a physical book is to be a subscriber. I love the idea of this, as I am a fan of physical gaming books, particularly when reading new material for the first time, its SUPER handy to have PDF copies to fulfill the PFS requirement you have a copy of all materials used in your characters. Considering how many books a typical (non-core) character uses material in, thats more than I want to carry around, particularly to a convention where I have multiple characters for the weekend.

Unfortunately, we have the problem at our location where folks either subscribe because free PDF and dropping on their door the day its out, or if they want to pick and choose, instead of getting everything, Amazon because its cheaper. This has lead to a circular logic issue, at least at our store. We are buying less Pathfinder materials from the store, as we could get a free PDF, or its cheaper elsewhere. Which in turn means they are stocking less and less Pathfinder books, which means there is less chance the actual book we want is instock, requiring we get it elsewhere.

So huzah! This is a definite step in the right direction, but its not a full solution.

I am also experiencing lots of issues scheduling scenarios that can draw enough players to even have a table. Brand new stuff usually works but beyond that there are experienced players who would come out and play if they could. The evergreens and core isn't attractive enough, players who want to play the characters they like and have built not re-starting a level 0 or core. Yes there have been replay options put out there but so far they are having little impact. Experienced players just stop coming out.

This, exactly this. My store used to have two tables, a low-tier, and a high-tier. These days its not unusual to have 3-4 players (plus GM) at our tables. When I schedule new scenarios before any other store in the area, we sometimes end up with two (or three) tables again, full of older players. When I talk to the folks who used to regularly play at our location as to why they no longer do PFS at our store, the answer almost always is that there were just not enough scenarios they could play. Every week I literally watch players who used to do PFS at our store playing 5e because of exactly this. Our 5e now has the table population PFS used to enjoy just because there are more things to play with less hassle.

To put things into perspective, the gamer population in our area is quite plentiful, and there are enough locations to support it. If I was to drive 30 min a night, I could easily play (barring issues with replay) 5 games a week. All 7 nights if I didnt mind expanding my drive to ~45 minutes.

dragonhunterq wrote:

improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]

So you're saying they specifically worded it in such a way that a summoner can take the feat while an eidolon cannot in case they some day make a summoner archetype that grants teamwork feats to the eidolon or the summoner sacrifices wealth and/or class levels to get the feat onto its eidolon via something that isn't "just because he's a basic summoner"?

Yeah, that doesnt make sense. If that were the case the new summoner archtype would just get an ability, like the hunters that says the eidolon can ignore feat requirements for teamwork feats. Would make things less confusing. It makes more sense that it was supposed to be designed so the PC required a compaion so it didn't get used as a normal Teamwork Feat between party members, and the wording just needs to be clarified. IMO.

i have never used any of my GM star replays, and have 2 filled expanded narrative boons to refresh them if i ever do use them up. I still have 95 games that i havnt played + all the AP's. I dont see this as a real problem - i know there are a few players who seem really vocal about it, but they are really in the minority in my experience.

I have a player who has 12 games he can play, add in trying to schedule everyone else with no conflicts and it becomes a problem. Just because it's not one for you doesn't mean it isn't an issue for others. As I said earlier, perhaps its just the heavy concentration of gamers in the area and we are an outlier.

I agree there should be some more flexibility to allow more replays than just stars once. I currently am a store coordinator for a number of folks who have been playing for years, (Kurthnaga being one of those folks) and every few months I pull my hair out trying to schedule stuff everyone can participate in (I had to make a spreadsheet of everyones plays / gms). Our local VL plays at my store, as well as being a coordinator for another store. That on top of his VL duties to visit other stores means he has pretty much done it all Roy Rydbeck also local, and visits our store from time to time, so maybe its just an indication our area is more saturated with PFS players in general, but regardless its a problem for us.

I understand some of the issues that they are trying to prevent, but honestly for folks that want to there is still not much stopping them. Play a scenario, turns out it has an awesome reward that would be perfect for your other character? Just GM it and apply it to that character. GMed it and know everything about the scenario? Just prepare your character with extra gear to avoid some of the issues, and use your existing knowledge to sail through the scenario by making all the right decisions. Its a matter of trust, we are trusting folks not to ruin the game for others by abusing their knowledge already, why not give GMs a bit more leeway.
I'm sure most folks think this is a dead horse, but I am a fan of stars refreshing on a yearly biases.

Source Advanced Class Guide pg. 150
Your link with your companion creature allows you to share your magic with it.

Prerequisites: Ability to acquire an animal companion, eidolon, familiar, or special mount.

Benefit: When you are adjacent to or sharing a square with your companion creature and that companion creature has this feat, you can cast a spell on yourself and divide the duration evenly between yourself and the companion creature. You can use this feat only on spells with a duration of at least 2 rounds. For example, you could cast bull’s strength on yourself, and instead of the spell lasting 1 minute per level on yourself, it lasts 5 rounds per level on yourself and 5 rounds per level on your companion.

Once the spell is cast, you and the companion creature can move farther apart without ending the effect.

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The problem lies in the wording of the Prerequisite. It requires you to have the ability to acquire an animal companion, familiar, eidolon, or special mount. It is also a teamwork feat, which requires the person (creature) you are doing it with has it as well. Unfortunately, no companion that I know of has the ability to acquire companions of their own so they are ineligible to learn it, leaving the character with no one to share it with.
I'm sure this was written with Hunters in mind, as the animal companion doesn't need to meet the feat requirements due to Hunter Tactics, and is published in the same book as the Hunter class. But Hunter is not a requirement, and it clear opens the doors to other classes with the wording in the requirement mentioning other companions.

One of my local players texted me the this question while I happened to be at GenCon, and I happened to be sitting a few tables over from John Compton so I went over and asked him. He looked over the wording, gave me his answer, then suggested I post it to the forums so that could be officially noticed and errataed. Thus this post, hopefully this is the right place to put it.

"Gunsmithing does not grant the ability to craft firearms, ammunition, or black powder. Rather, it allows the purchase of bullets, pellets, black powder, and alchemical cartridges (with 1 rank in Craft [alchemy]) at the listed reduced price, but does not grant a discount on the purchase of any firearm. Resold items gained through this feat are worth half the actual cost paid, not half the regular market value for the item. No PC can purchase a gun without this feat, even if they possess the Amateur Gunslinger or Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearm) feats." - Additional Resources.

As a side-note, because its not clearly explained in the blurb, but the reduced cost for ammo is 1/10 the price. Nefreet posted a handy cost chart here.

Having GM stars recharge without a boon and then let GM use them to get a second GM chronicle could work I think.

This was pretty much the solution I thought of in my head, Tineke just beat me to the punch.

I have GMed a few cons since the boon was released, and just haven't gotten it yet. I got a wifty (real) coin of the Open Road, and some other nice boons, but not that one. I'm going to GenCon this year so hopefully then.
But there are lots of GMs who don't get to go to big cons, and they kinda get left out.

Announced for later this month!

So, does this mean released today, as its the last day of the month, or has it (and 6-07) been pushed back?

I missed that post, but I was kinda figuring that. Thanks for the confirmation.

I am guessing Unchained is not PFS Core legal, even if the Unchained class was originally a core class (Looking at you Mr. Rogue)?

The new Unchained Monk cannot be used with any archetype by default.

In other words, if you want to use any archetype you'll need to ask your GM to homebrew it.

So no Unchained Zen Archer eh? Well that kinda makes it meh in my book. Oh well.

Add me to the interested list!

How long does it usually take them to update the Additional Resources page for PFS? Since I play mostly PFS, I want to make sure its worth buying, and they haven't dropped the ban-hammer on everything.

Question on summoners and the new April 29th date:

The blog post said "effective immediately" summoners from ACG were no longer legal. However, the date was then changed from "today" to April 29th.

Does this mean that pre-level 2 summoners from ACG can still be played until April 29th?

We have three tier 1-5 tables starting in 3 hours, and it would be nice to get a clarification before then.

Same(ish),

On a semi-related note, when is Additional Resources going to be updated to reflect the legality (or non-legality) of Unchained?

Congratulations Rob!!

Your problem is right here:

Quote:

*Limbs (Legs) (2) Claws (2)...This evolution[claws] can only be applied to the limbs (legs) evolution once.

You're able to add it once and whilst you must have limbs equal to the claws you're adding normally, you can only add it to legs once.

Ungh, well, that's dumb, as anyone who has ever tried to give a cat a bath will tell you.

Rear claws are normally refereed to as a rake attack. It gives you two attacks on a charge but only counts as one for your total number of natural attacks limit.

Actually Rake gives you two attacks each time you succeed a grapple check with the target. Grappling, before you get Large, seems to be a complete waste of time to me, since you would be giving up attacks to grapple, and grappling an opponent who is the same size category as you (unless your built for it) is usually a loosing battle.

I just bought Hero Lab, and am in the process of importing my PFS character when I discovered an issue. Either I have been unintentionally cheating, or I found an issue with Hero Lab.
My eidolon is a quadruped with the following evolutions
*Bite
*Limbs (Legs) (2)
Claws (2)
Improved Damage - Claws

When I attempt to add the Claws evolution twice Hero Lab freaks out and tells me "You must have a pair of arms to place these claws on".
Per the APG pg60 "This evolution can only be applied to the limbs (legs) evolution once. This evolution can be selected more than once, but the eidolon must possess an equal number of the limbs evolution"

I thought I was fine, per my understanding of the rules. Two pairs of legs, two pairs of claws. Am I misunderstanding the rule or is Hero Lab just being buggy?
I've played this way for a number of levels and never had a GM bat an eye at it, one even suggested I forgo the bite entirely even though it does more damage, and pick up the feat Weapon Focus - Claw and the Rend evolution, as a way to make it more effective.

Andostre wrote:

Does anybody have a link that directs to the most recent OotS comic? One that's not a static link to a specific comic? The old link that I used to use no longer works.

It looks like the comics section has been reorganized. You can still check the Order of the Stick archives, but it doesn't look like there is a page that auto-forwards to the most recent comic.

Thanks. Maybe they'll get around to it soon, but if not it's not a big deal.

They actually got around to it ten years ago.

The correct link to the latest page is
https (colon) //www (dot) giantitp (dot) com/comics/ootslatest.html

Sweet! And, I'll go with a Pathfinder product.

DAMN YOU SUPERJEDI224, YOU STOLE MY WIN!

May as well put me on the list.

Good luck!

Have readers forgotten about Xykon's fortress?

All I care about is the Giant pulled a Superior Spider-man.

You're more than four years late with that comparison:)

Why this doesn't happen to all vampires.

Sigdi's line about burying is a callback to strip 84, 14 real-life years ago.

I don't get it but then again it's pretty weird stuff anyway...

Durkon and his mother had dinner parties with the same five people for most of the time he lived in dwarven lands. We are just now being told that those five people are the people Sigdi had raised from the dead.

1126: Battle Cry

You're back! Yay!

1125: Throwing Shade

1124: Dominate Tricks

OH SNAP
ping bow string.

1121: Protection Racket

Unchained was merely my play test. I will remove the imperfections in your system. Improve it. Replace it. Progress is inevitable. And I am progress.

You're just an alpha test for me.

Also, you can now pre-order the next prequel book, Volume 1/2, in both softcover and DRM-free PDF.

1119: The Fighting’s So Bright

Noooooo not the poor giraffes :(

It looks like V isn’t chaotic, based on the gritted teeth in the chaos hammer.

V is True Neutral.

1118: Negatively Affected

Maneuvermoose wrote:

Which version of WotC psionics are we talking about? There's too many of them!

Edition bloat! Edition bloat! There are too many editions of WotC Psionics! The only way to solve it is for WotC to release a new edition to reduce the proliferation of...oh..wait a minute....

And now with Pathfinder 2 there will be even MORE edition bloat! That makes it more important than ever for Paizo to release a new edition to reduce the edition bloat!

Honestly I'm glad to see this thread bumped. I've seen a lot of "Pathfinder 2e" threads over the five years I've been on Paizo.com, but this thread was one of my favorite incarnations.

There will never be a Pathfinder 3.0. Remember, everyone who plays Pathfinder 2.0 is doing so because they hate switching editions. That's why all of them switched from 3.5 to Pathfinder 1, and then from Pathfinder 1 to Pathfinder 2. As we all know, past action is never an indicator of future action. That's why if someone switched from 3.5 to Pathfinder 1, you know they will never switch to Pathfinder 2, because they hate switching so much! Similarly, if anyone switches to Pathfinder 2, you know that those same people would be unwilling ever to switch systems again. Paizo knows this too, which is why they will never release a Pathfinder 3.

Though my opinion may change in subsequent rereadings, I think that last panel is my new favorite Elan quote of all time.

Spectacular.

Does this mean Kudzu is non-lawful?

It seems like he takes after his father in his passion for turn Undead.

We already know Kudzu's alignment: Kudzu's alignment is TBD.

We also know all of Kudzu's other stats:

Here are the stats you actually need for a hatchling dragon:

Movement: Gets away if you let it.
Saving Throws: Miraculously survives all accidents.
Armor Class: You hit.
Hit Points: Congratulations, Baby-Killer.
Special Qualities: I hope you can live with yourself.

Coincidentally, these are the same exact stats for every other species of baby.

The recent Nintendo Switch would be my recommendation, but that's due to my taste in games. It has the benefit of being somewhat portable, though, which none of the other major consoles (save the 3DS, which is really in a different category) have.

It really comes down to what sort of games you like. If you want Halo, then Xbox One is the only place to go. If you want Mario or Pokemon or Legend of Zelda or Metroid, Switch is the place for you. If you want any of Sony's exclusive games, go with PS4. I think Sony may be the best for multiplayer games, while Nintendo does better single-player games. But that's a very broad oversimplification.

I'd have a hard time recommending Xbox One to anyone, to do the dearth of exclusive titles and the fact that almost every XBO game is also on PS4. But if there's one in particular you really truly want, then go for it.

137ben wrote:

Looks like I got the only 2, and there were no 1s. Does that mean I win something?

Unfortunately, Ivory Songbird also got a 2.

Whoopsies, I didn't see that:P

Add me to the list too.

That dwarf appears to be the same one that Hurak is talking to on page 19 of OtOotPCs. I guess he's about to tell the Order about the prophecy that we found out about 12 years ago (finally!)

1089: Scents and Cents

Nice callback to the first page of book six.

Wultram wrote:

Sneak attack most certainly isn't something special.

That so?

Given that sneak attack immune targets are far less common in PF than they were in 3.5, I disagree.

Okay, back up a minute. Tell me, what does Sneak Attack actually do?

Dealing hit-point damage in Pathfinder is not something special. Every single class in the game can do hit-point damage. Even the commoner. Sneak Attack is a class feature that allows a rogue to do more damage than a commoner. You know who else has that feature? Every other class in the game except commoners. They aren't all called "Sneak Attack," but they all do the same thing: increase hit-point damage.

For the Fighter, it's called Weapon Training. It boosts damage, just like Sneak Attack. For the Paladin, it's called Smite Evil. For the Barbarian, it's called Rage. For the Wizard, it's called either Magic Missile or Bull's Strength. They all do the same thing, and that thing is hit-point damage. There is nothing special about Sneak Attack, no matter how frequently you can use it.

If you want to see what an actually special class feature in Pathfinder looks like, look at the Barbarian's ability to shrug off mind-affecting effects with the appropriate rage power. Or the Paladin's Mercy. Or the Wizard's ability to fly. Those are all special because not every class can do them. Unlike dealing damage, which literally everyone in Pathfinder does.

More specifically:

--All vampires that aren't currently thralls have free will.
--Malack's primary purpose in the story was to kill Durkon. If Malack weren't Evil, he probably wouldn't have killed Durkon and so wouldn't have been in the story. Hence, you only saw Malack because he was evil.

--HPoH's primary role in the story appears to be as the main antagonist of book six, so he also had to be evil for that role.

--The Giant hasn't decided how many death gods there are in the OOTS world. If there's a Good-aligned death god out there, they are probably more likely to be making Good-aligned vampire spirits, and if there is a Neutral-aligned death god out there, they are probably more likely to be making Neutral-aligned vampire spirits. But the only ones that matter are the ones shown in the comic.

Speaking from my personal perspective, I'd be very surprised if any of the vampires in HPoH's retinue were non-evil. Hel created all of them for the same purpose as HPoH, and they all very clearly want Hel's plan to succeed, which means they all want Hel to get more power. Then again, Eugene also didn't seem to mind the idea of Hel succeeding, since it would mean he personally could get into the afterlife and he's too self-centered to care about what happens on the ground.

Isn't the female vampire that did not immediately get onboard with the Great Leader narrative and shows more independent thought than the other spawns the same one who seemed to heed self-preservation more than bloodlust in the fight with Roy and the representatives ?

Is it possible for a spawn to actually be created free, and maybe even non-Evil ?

How Vampires Work in OOTS.

Thanks to Jaxzan Proditor (for the quotes, not just the votes.)

commoner

Commoners are only week if you view the game as a competition to see who can do the most damage like an MMO. In a REAL LIFE Pathfinder game, the GM can just arrange things so that the commoner can shine. If you are finding commoners are overshadowed then you're just a bad GM.

Besides, I was playing a commoner the other day and I rolled TWO critical hits in a row! Seriously, that's how awesome commoners are. No one else was that powerful.

So what?

Is the kind of sniping in this thread helping anyone have a more enjoyable or richer gaming experience?

If you don't want to take part in a discussion on alignment, you don't have to post on this thread. Evidently, some people do enjoy posting on these threads, since they keep doing it.

Lady-J wrote:

, real paladins aren't lawful good,

*tilts head*

The only real paladins were the Roman officials. They were not Good, they were legal officials whose loyalty was to the emperor of Rome.

You are probably thinking of fictional paladins, which are distinctly not real. The most famous fictional paladins are the Charlemagne peers--the paladins who regularly butcher and torture anyone they perceive as being a different religion. They are also not Lawful Good, and would be closest to Chaotic Evil if you insisted on using alignments for them.

The Lawful Good 'Paladin' is a very recent invention, introduced in the late 20th century. And it's basically spewing a big pile of vomit over everything the paladin has traditionally stood for for thousands of years.

But hey, if that's your preference, go ahead and use it! If you what to call your character a Lawful Good Paladin, you can do that. No real paladin will be offended by your insult to their profession, since all the real paladins are long dead. No fictional paladin will be offended either, since they are fictional. And while I personally will always prefer a traditional paladin over the modern Good 'Paladin' you seam enamored with, I'm not going to stop you from playing what you want. Unlike some people here, my enjoyment of a game isn't contingent on being able to tell other people what they are or aren't allowed to enjoy themselves. So go ahead and play your Lawful Good 'Paladin.' Just don't be surprised when other people prefer a different conception of a paladin.

Redcloak is an average leader. Zykon is the awesome leader. :)

Check again, [url="http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0917.html"]it's "Zyklon," with an 'l'. I always thought that T used divination to try and figure out who Xykon was, but couldn't due to Cloister. He then ended up finding out about an unrelated villain Zyklon, who was much weaker and hence concluded that the villain Elan is worried about isn't really a threat.

You are correct that "setting neutral" is not quite accurate. In fact, I'd argue that it's not possible to make a truly setting neutral fantasy game system because there is no universal standard for how magic works.

Ah, I see you've never played Word Mill's Mythic Role playing. It is a truly universal setting, and it is designed so that the setting can be generated on the fly during play if you want to (although you can also play with a pre-determined setting).

It's amazing how many of the Paizo.com arguments go away once that book is available.

I have no doubt that, had barbarians originally been printed with a "Lawful only" restriction, and had monks originally been printed with a "chaotic only" restriction, then the same people who are now demanding Lawful Only Monks and Chaotic Only Barbarians would instead be demanding Chaotic Only Monks and Lawful Only Barbarians.

After all, Barbarians are all about living the traditional hunter-gatherer lifestyle of their ancestors. There's no way you can be a barbarian like that without being lawful.

Meanwhile, Monks outright reject the authority of the lawful secular government of their region, instead putting their faith in an extrajudicial quasi-religious order of martial artists. Hence, Monks cannot be lawful.

Heck, the same goes for pretty much any other class. If the Core Rulebook said that Fighters had to be a particular alignment, the same people defending the monk's alignment restriction would be making the same argument in defense of the fighter's alignment restriction, regardless of what it was. Fighters need a lot of discipline and patience to learn their martial art, so they have to be Lawful. Fighters resolve conflicts with violence instead of diplomacy, so they are inherently Chaotic. The only reason you don't see the same choir of people arguing in favor of either of those alignment restrictions is because they aren't already printed in the books.

The fact is, you can come up with a quick "justification" for any class to be restricted to any alignment. Not all such restrictions can actually be in the rules (for starters, you can't restrict a class to be both Chaotic-only and Lawful-only).

Really had me scared with the title, there!

I'd stopped buying anything from the Paizo.com store for a handful of reasons, but as long as PDG continues to put out products on OBS and/or the open gaming store, I'll keep buying them. I'd hazard a guess that customers like me contributed to whatever reasons PDG had for deciding to leave the Paizo.com store.

For people who forgot, the stone crumbling to dust was introduced a chapter or two ago in strip 1024.

Ascalaphus wrote:

It makes it much harder for enemies to "geek the mage first",

I always wonder how they knew who the mage was. It is true, that some wear a big pointy red hat with "WIZZARD" on it in sequins, but they are the minority. ;-)

Now you're just being silly. All Wizards are absolutely required to wear big pointy hats, and Jiggy explains why

As for the cone-shaped hat, that one's a bit more complicated. See, the most dangerous thing for a wizard is to have your magic taken away, which generally comes in the form of an anti-magic field. Wizards need a way to protect against this. So what do you do?

You get a teepee (a cone-shaped tent) and cast shrink item on it. Refresh it every couple of days. Now you have a teepee that you can wear as a hat. Should you find that you've run afoul of an AMF, the spell on the teepee-hat will end, returning it to its natural size. This means that suddenly there's a full-size, open-bottomed tent above your head. Gravity does its thing, and now you're standing in a tent.

As a result, there is no longer any line of effect from the point-of-origin of the AMF to your wizardy self, meaning you're no longer affected. You can now teleport to safety. And make a new hat.

That is why wizards wear flowing robes and pointy hats.

1083: You Bet

BALOR. Good god, Balor. The mythical Balor is one of my favorite figures in myth, so making it a discount Balrog frustrates me. It doesnt even have a gaze attack!

I'm in pretty much the same boat when it comes to drow, or paladins, or the tarrasque.

1082: And Your Souls For Free

Speeding up the disease just for this purpose might or might not violate the Domain Agreement.

Also, most people who get chicken pox don't encounter a chicken.

None of the people insisting that only Lawful characters can hold to a code have yet explained why Chaotic Evil gets to have Antipaladins. And according to the official Paizo PRD, Antipaladins do lose class abilities if they violate their Code of Conduct.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Being ninja'd is not allowed. Ninjas must follow a code of honor, and hence must be lawful.

1080: Clever Blasting God Stoppers

First time I can remember a Saturday update in quite awhile. I think the title is a reference to the film adaption of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

I love the Paladin, and have since 1988. I will not play a 5e Paladin as it's not a Paladin.

I love the Palatina. I have since circa 20 CE. I will not play the AD&D "Paladin" and it's not a paladin. The new-age anime producer who wrote the AD&D so-called "paladin" had no conception as to what a paladin really is. A real paladin is a government official, who swears allegiance to the Emperor of Rome, in connection with Palatine Hill. The AD&D "paladin" is none of those things, so it isn't a paladin. It's an insult to everything paladins have stood for for the previous 1900 years. Full Stop. End of discussion. And don't you dare tell me that the meanings of words change: all words are required to mean exactly the same thing that they meant in ancient times, and modern writers are not allowed to use ancient words like "Paladin" to describe fictional character archetypes that hadn't been invented when the word originated.

1079: Threat Level