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after what happeneed there , the heavily double standards rules/guidelines/policies, bad PR, etc... I humbly request that this account be closed.

Thanks.

I appologize I am one of the reasons the Asmodeus the Misogynist thread went bad and had to be closed.

I think my problem is that few of the Good gods have "ugly" flaws. Bigotry, a mean sense of humor, a bad temper—these are failings that Good people can have, as long as they don't go too far. I find those flaws a bit more interesting than "My problem is I love too much", which kind of sounds like a would-be employee saying his problem is that he works too hard.

You mean having more douchebags amongst the Goods than the Evils, and amongst the Lawfuls than the Chaotics isn't a flaw? (big enough to rewrite the alignment system)

James Jacobs wrote:

Good deities absoulutely CAN have flaws. Iomedae is really impatient and humorless. Desna is impulsive and doesn't think of the long-term ramifications of her actions. Cayden Cailean is a drunkard. Torag is too bound by traditions. Shelyn is blinded by her love for her brother. Sarenrae is a bit too forgiving. They CAN have flaws, and that makes them more interesting, but which flaws are the RIGHT flaws for any one deity to have is more or less up to me, as Paizo's Creative Director, to approve.

And I do not want to be in a position where something that looks like misogyny is upheld by a good deity... ANY good deity, but ESPECIALLY one who's supposed to be all about family and community. It's just nonsensical. And as such, it has been fixed.

So what you're saying is the goddess of mercy and forgiveness is "too" merciful and forgiving, the goddess of love's flaw is loving too much, the god synonymous with drinking has a problem with drinking, and the goddess of total freedom has way too much freedom?

... These are interesting flaws?

More that there point of view of their portfolio can be narrow minded and way too focussed.

My knowledge of Xavier's character is limited to the cartoons, the movies, and his really early days in the comics.

Based on the latter, and how much of a dick he was...you're probably right.

Most of my comic book knowledge is second-hand via shows like AT4W, or adapted media.

For what I know, if Xavier is still alive in the comics, he is probably still a douchebag.

At least Magneto doesn't hide the facts that he is quite the douche as well, unlike Xavier.

I'm sure in the 50 or so years X-Men has been around, Magneto has thought of every conceivable plot to mutant-ize the world. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an idea that involved incredibly smelly radioactive cheese.

You would probbly still prefer Magneto to Charles Xavier (comic book wise anyway).

People having conniptions about anthropomorphic good gods being less than perfect.... Me I'm all for Olympian foibles, it's the rough edges an imperfections that make for a more interesting game.

... that.

^Documentation of the misogyny of Hell (which must be with the approval of Asmodeus) can be found on pathfinderwiki.com, starting here.

Kinda old, and kinda got retconned a few times.

Aw c'mon, despite Erastil not being that backwards anymore, not all Good deities are perfect. Iomedae waterboards people using electricity and Ragathiel is an omnicidial psychopath. Cayden is a horrible example for the young, Desna is a commie hippie, Shelyn is a hippie commie, Torag is just plain inhuman and Sarenrae failed to kill Rovagug, which clearly means she's in cahoots with him.

Re: Toning down good gods - I think a lot of that is happening because of folks actively misinterpreting the deity articles in the worst possible way ("This LG god advocates genocide!" or "This LG god thinks adventuring is stupidly dangerous and isn't comfortable with any of his clerics adventuring, so he's a misogynist"), so that Paizo then goes back and re-writes the articles to leave far less room for interpretion.

Ragathiel is probably LG because making him a CE Demon would be too close to DnD's Blood War. And probably because the game is more "Good vs Evil" than "Chaos vs Order"

Gars DarkLover wrote:

John Kretzer wrote:

I Blame Cosmo for straining a muscle in my shoulder today at work.

So, you blame Cosmo that you are very prone to accidents?

But I am not accident prone at all. The bad things that happen to me are the machinations of Cosmo.

I Blame Cosmo that I had to explain that...

But, you being prone to accidents is part of Cosmo's Machinations.

I Blame Cosmo that I had to explain that...

I blame Cosmo that, if it continues like this, we will have to blame a certain DT instead of Cosmo.

Gars DarkLover wrote:

LazarX wrote:

GreyWolfLord wrote:

I wonder what his definition of mutant is. You don't necessarily have to have some special power to have a mutation (for example, cancer is a mutation...)

Presumably it's the Marvel Comics definition; A person with an expressed (as opposed to latent) X-gene.

Doesn't part of him want to turn everyone into mutants?

Closer to "activate the latent X-gene of many seemingly normal humans".

This has the unfortunate side effect of killing everyone who DOESN'T have that gene but you know, omelets, eggs, whatever.

In one Arc, he almost had the opportunity to do it via rewritting reality.

There are also a few Arcs where things like that happened via Reality Warpind, Time Travel, etc...

GreyWolfLord wrote:

I wonder what his definition of mutant is. You don't necessarily have to have some special power to have a mutation (for example, cancer is a mutation...)

Presumably it's the Marvel Comics definition; A person with an expressed (as opposed to latent) X-gene.

Doesn't part of him want to turn everyone into mutants?

Man, I almost forgot the Advanced Class Guide.

That's a book in the Adventure Path line with a TON of archetypes and classes!

I am ashamed it took me 2 hours and 15 minutes to get it.

Bouncy Viera Archer?

Just think, whatever doesn't kill you...

Sage Advice:

keeps you at the tender mercies of Cosmo's machinations.

Gars DarkLover wrote:

Need more Shadow/Darkness themed classes and archetypes, and more Evil themed classes and archetypes.

We don't really do archetypes or classes in the Adventure Path line...

Campaign Setting? Player Companion? RPG Line?

Need more Shadow/Darkness themed classes and archetypes, and more Evil themed classes and archetypes.

I Blame Cosmo for straining a muscle in my shoulder today at work.

So, you blame Cosmo that you are very prone to accidents?

Ultimate Nobility / Noble Adventures

Gars DarkLover wrote:

I could see a revised edition at some point (it will become unevitable), but not really a second edition.

Now, a second Campaign Setting, or a major expansion to the existing one, would be welcome and useful.

They've stated repeatedly that they have no intention of splitting the CS line, based on what happened to TSR. (Maybe one day their position will change, of course.)

I'd love a Dragon Empires/Casmaron/Arcadia hardcover, though. ^_^

This is why I added the expansion option (granted, it was misspelled), not make a new verse, 'just' make the existing one bigger.

I could see a revised edition at some point (it will become unevitable), but not really a second edition.

Now, a second Campaign Setting, or a major expention to the existing one, would be welcome and useful.

Also blaming Cosmo because I just made a list of all the PF products I own using the list function, which took about an hour, and it didn't save and now I have to do it all over again.

Or not. 'Cause I think everyone at Paizo would prefer I keep accidentally buying multiple copies of the same product anyway. :)

* Add a few.

kinda like any work on a computer.

I blame Cosmo that most people can't learn/remember that.

Question about this and future products: has the starting age thing been dropped or what?

Gars DarkLover wrote:

shadram wrote:

As for the conversation above, I think Paizo have done a great job about communicating what this AP would be. From the start, I thought it was clear that this was an AP about liberating Kintargo from the rule of House Thrune, rather than bringing them down altogether. Interviews, forum posts and the product pages have all given that impression.

Yeah, they said from the start that this wasn't the Devil version of Wrath of the Righteous.

Campaign Traits and modified Noble Scion feat: no option to play a rebelious Thrune?

Not as written. A GM can adjust so it's possible, I suppose, but there may be some elements of the AP that might function weirdly if a PC is a Thrune...

Would make a few things easier at first (lot of places where one can use the front door), then quite harder (ending up with one Hell of a bounty, or 666).

Also Skull and Shackles. (Chelish Navy goes boom.)

I counted it as indirectly, but it being touched directly isn't impossible.

Ultimate Ultimatum

Advanced Ultimate Advanced Ultimatum.

Ultimate Extremes.

As for the conversation above, I think Paizo have done a great job about communicating what this AP would be. From the start, I thought it was clear that this was an AP about liberating Kintargo from the rule of House Thrune, rather than bringing them down altogether. Interviews, forum posts and the product pages have all given that impression.

Yeah, they said from the start that this wasn't the Devil version of Wrath of the Righteous.

Campaign Traits and modified Noble Scion feat: no option to play a rebelious Thrune?

Hell's Vengeance might have ties with at least 2 AP (CoT and Hell's Rebels) if somewhat directly, to around half of them if somewhat indirectly.

Those incoming anti-spam features... Is there a chance they will, completely accidentally of course, interfere with starting new paladin alignment/code/fall threads?

+ 1

Reposting:

How about Young Character with PFS' "screw ability score adjustments from age categories"?

Come to think of it, what about Unchained's background skills?

Silver Surfer wrote:

3.5 to PF style..."Heroes of Horror"

I prefer the title "Survivors of Horror".

The 'Heroes' are Horrors themselves?

Wayne Reynolds wrote:

ulgulanoth wrote:

Having that we've seen the iconics already depicted in different costumes, is there any costumes for any of the iconics you'd like to paint them in? And if so who and what would they wear?

I'd love to create sci-fi variants of the first 11 Iconics. That would be fun. :)

GASP! SCI-FI MERISIEL!!!!

Hmmm.

HMMMM...

And Shensen? And Nocticula?

To WAR: Has anyone asked you to draw a male Catfolk in the Bestiary 3 style?

How about Young Character with PFS' "screw ability score adjustments from age categories"?

Edit: come to think of it, Unchained background skills?

Joe Hex wrote:

Luthorne wrote:

Joe Hex wrote:

Sorry to tilt off topic a bit, but has anything been posted on the site announcing Horror Adventures? I only heard about it by reading this thread.

I don't think so, but Know Direction mentioned it in brief here, and they'll probably put up the recording of the announcement at GenCon fairly soon, though for now I believe they only have the Adventure Path Question & Answer part up, though I'm sure that will change soon enough.

Thanks! :)

It's a long way off, but I'm already very interested. My campaign is equal parts fantasy/gothic horror- new options will be great to have. I've been wanting a more playable vampire for a long time, so I hope that's explored. The template in the Bestiary is not so useful for players.

It sounds like they hinted at players becoming vampires, albeit in a slower and more balanced progression than the Bestiary method.

Probably slowly gaining abilities and weaknesses as time passes, and depending on the number of people you feed on. This is just conjecture, but there might even be instances to try and oppose the cravings and further transformation by making a Will or Fort save - think Louis from Interview With the Vampire.

kinda like TESV: Skyrim's Dawnguard DLC?

Luthorne wrote:

Joe Hex wrote:

Sorry to tilt off topic a bit, but has anything been posted on the site announcing Horror Adventures? I only heard about it by reading this thread.

I don't think so, but Know Direction mentioned it in brief here, and they'll probably put up the recording of the announcement at GenCon fairly soon, though for now I believe they only have the Adventure Path Question & Answer part up, though I'm sure that will change soon enough.

Thanks! :)

It's a long way off, but I'm already very interested. My campaign is equal parts fantasy/gothic horror- new options will be great to have. I've been wanting a more playable vampire for a long time, so I hope that's explored. The template in the Bestiary is not so useful for players.

We got some playtests for Ultimate Intrigues recently, so if anything in Horror Adventures need any playtests, it would be somewhere between the end of October and the start of January, which is also when we should expect more detailed official info.

How many players/PCs will you take?

HP after first level?

Campaign Setting books Wishlist

Samy wrote:

How about seven?

How about zero?

Four? It is often an unlucky number in Asia.

+, it could fit the Martial/Meat Shield, Skill Monkey, Divine Caster and Arcane Caster thing.

Gars DarkLover wrote:

Wayne Reynolds wrote:

DM_Kumo Gekkou wrote:

Will you please upload the kineticist next! I'm dying here since Mike teased that I would like it on another thread.

Erm, not my decision. I'm only a freelance artist and not a member of the Paizo design team.

They haven't made you an Honorary Paizo Staffer yet?

On topic: Is there any type of request that would make you go crazy and you would end up drawing dozens of pages of?

There isn't really any one subject that I have difficulty depicting.

There can be occasions where an equipment design can be elusive - where a weapon shape, armour design or clothing pattern isn't quite working. These are the instances that involve a number of alternative sketch design until I get something that looks right. It can take a few pages of my sketchbook until I'm able to create the appropriate design.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant crazy as in; the subject interest and inspire you so much you go overboard, you end up drawing way more than neccessary?

DM_Kumo Gekkou wrote:

Will you please upload the kineticist next! I'm dying here since Mike teased that I would like it on another thread.

Erm, not my decision. I'm only a freelance artist and not a member of the Paizo design team.

They haven't made you an Honorary Paizo Staffer yet?

On topic: Is there any type of request that would make you go crazy and you would end up drawing dozens of pages of?

CaptainMarvelous wrote:

I'm seriously considering a second game, given the level of interest, but I want to see how I do with one to start.

I think that's a great idea. If, once the game has settled down, you feel like you've got room for a second group then great. Much better than starting two, burning out and dropping both.

I agree with that.

I still want Ultimate Commoner.

You remind me I want to know the alternate XP mechaniques NPC tend to use.

Feth wrote:

Would you be alright with lurkers watching the game? I'm disappointed that I missed this. Darn vacation! I'm also interested in getting on the waiting list.

Oh absolutely, happy for anyone who wants to to follow along. I wish I could take everyone who expressed interest but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew.

All in a single group would be hard.

Multiple groups/games is another option (with its own problems).

But you are you, and know your limits better than we do.

chbgraphicarts wrote:

What I WOULDN'T mind seeing is not so much a hard-and-fast Rulebook, but an Epic Adventures Guide - something like the GameMastery Guide that covers theories, tips, and very-minor rules for playing HD21+ games (as for Rules, mostly in the realm of templates for LV20+ monsters, lv20+ treasure, etc.).

I think a lot of people would really want one of these that covered HD 15+ rather than just 20+ considering all the complaints I've heard over the years about not being sure how to run high level games.

That too.

And I would say "raise the (level) ceiling", not remove it entirely.

Gars DarkLover wrote:

Milo v3 wrote:

DaveMage wrote:

Epic Level Pathfinder

That already exists, both in the core rule book and mythic adventures.

He/She meant getting past Level 20 and probably "none of that Mythic crap" (A complain by some people here), or maybe in addition to Mythic Adventure.

Core rule book has rules for past 20th level without mythic. That's why I mentioned both.

But not a lot of them, and they don't please most of the 3.5 Epic Levels Handbook fans.

DaveMage wrote:

Epic Level Pathfinder

That already exists, both in the core rule book and mythic adventures.

He/She meant getting past Level 20 and probably "none of that Mythic crap" (A complain by some people here), or maybe in addition to Mythic Adventure.

* More (and updated) Darkland.
* More (and updated)Darkmoon Vale.
* More Mana Wastes / Alkenstar.

Magic would probably work. Now, the question of it affecting reproduction could be debate worthy, with a Captain Obvious or two mentioning "It's magic.

Edit: Before entering the thread, I thought it would be about things like Intersex, Hermaphodite, and the like, the title is a bit misleading imho.

Rynjin wrote:

The PCs are the protagonists, yes, but that doesn't necessarily make them the "good guys" and their antagonists "bad guys".

Good examples if you watch anime: Light Yagami and Lelouch Lamperouge are both the main protagonists of their respective series.

They are not good guys.

(If you're responding to me...)

Yes, I know the difference between a protagonist and a "good guy". ^_^

The way I read Carrion Crown, though, it seems like the PCs are assumed to be (among other things) willing to help those in need. There are options for if they hold out, but the AP seems to assume that they want to save Ravengro/help the Beast/etc.

Book 5 is half-written around the assumption that the PCs are too moral/religious to even consider working with the (spoilers).

Many AP would be easier for Evil parties than good ones, if just for circumventing many magical traps, a good deal of the "But Thou Must" and/or "But Thou Can't", or alignment restricted awesome gears. Kinda like undead PCs would have an happy time in many AP.

Inner Sea Guide - Casmaron.... that is what is left dangit!

Dood, this thread is meant for setting neutral books, that would be in the Campaign Setting line.

Planar/Multiverse Adventures: Could be a good idea (setting Neutral), with a Campaign Setting book to supplement it.

Wilderness Adventures: that too, and Nature themed Archetypes for the non Nature Themed Classes.

High-Seas Adventures: Kinda wanted by many as well.

Ultimate Dungeons: Very needed, and not just by the customers.

(X Creatures) Codices: Hopefully with some "Good" (in quality, not Alignment) Player/PC options, Templates adjustements/Clarifications, etc...

Clockpunk/Steampunk/Dieselpunk/Dungeonpunk/Gas-Lamp Fantasy:

Something I realized over the weekend: paizo hasn't really had an undead-themed AP yet. Yes, there was carrion crown, but 3 of the adventures didn't have anything to do with undead and the first one was more or less kind of loosely undead based. Haunts are essentially traps that you have to do some kind of story-based action to get rid of them.

The second was about frankenstein's monster and other golems. The third was all werewolves, all the time. The forth was lovecraftian monster. We don't really hit a genuine undead theme until book 5 with vampires and book 6 is liches.

There were a few zombie scenes, but no wights, ghouls, ghasts, etc. It was a classic horror themed AP, not an undead one. Heck, IIRC, we don't actually meet anyone from the cult itself until like the end of adventure 3.

Just something I noticed.

Mummy's Mask :-)

That, Mummy's Mask has lots of undeads.

But I would like an Undead heavy AP which isn't kinda Construct/Golem heavy as well.