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Gary was a legend, a hero, and a role-model. My early days in the Paizo community brought me frequently into Gary's orbit and I can genuinely say he was one of the reasons I kept coming back.

Farewell, noble PostMonster. You will be sorely missed.

I am posting my support of your offline testing several days after the fact!

*brushes cobwebs off his avatar*

Hey everyone. It's me! I'm not dead. Not biologically dead, anyway. Ithuriel contacted me a couple days ago and let me know that these threads were miraculously still alive. It's been months since I've been to Paizo at all since work keeps me INSANELY busy.

It's good stuff, though, a much-needed respite from the way my life had been going these last few years. That said, it is most unfortunate that I do not have the time to commit to the games that I once did. ESPECIALLY for Runzyl. There's just far, far too much math involved in playing that character at this level and my posts (before hitting submit) often looked like the chalkboard of a calculus class.

That said, I will be very sad that his story cannot continue further. Aubrey has done an exemplary job of bringing depth and grandeur to a character who is, in a mechanical sense, essentially a blender permanently set to 'frappe.'

It has been one of the best and most memorable campaigns I have ever participated in and it is with great reluctance that I take my leave, but I feel like the flow of the narrative will move along much better without me holding things back. I am greatly sorry, and I wish you all good gaming in the years to come!

Sorry about my recent absence. I started a new job this week and they offered me "as much overtime as I can handle" so naturally I've chosen to work back-to-back 66 hour weeks.

We don't have access to Paizo from the new job's network sooo... I'm going to be scarce until this new application rollout completes (at least a couple weeks). Apologies to all.

Runzyl seems to snap out of his casual disdain for the discussion at hand the instant Rolund lashes out against the other party members. Falla Caesenri pulses with crimson energy as the Valenar raises it to a combat position.

"If by force it must be, then so be it," the elf snarls. "It is time we learned which force is more powerful: your curse or your will to survive."

I um... I'm fully intending on going all-out blender on Rolund until he stops moving and letting Rodergo pick up the pieces when I'm done. We might want to do an initiative roll or something.

Cheers guys, it's been a pleasure serving alongside you all and I will certainly be following to see who wins in the long run! :D

Tenro: My item was the Spectral Lampblack and my archetype is the River Warden. My real name is Zachary Hensley. :)

I'm still here. Runzyl doesn't have much to contribute at this point, so assume that he's just kind of quietly following along. I do try to check in here at least every other day or so, so don't count me out. I have been a little preoccupied with RPGSS stuff, though. :D

So, erm, I just rather suddenly acquired a flurry of deadlines. ::glances at messageboard title:: Things may slow down a bit here in the coming weeks. Apologies in advance! (Vote for me!)

To be honest, the inspiration for this item came about during a certain PFS scenario (which shall remain nameless to avoid spoilers) in which a mage's faithful hound is positioned in a narrow hallway with no possibility of avoidance. Since the hound activates before a rogue can get close enough to attempt to disable it as he might attempt with any other magical trap, the only valid options were to teleport the entire party around the obstacle, dispel it (a straightforward and effective yet boring solution), drop a silence on the area (which would prevent the barking but not the automatic bite attacks), or have the incredible fortune of an Arcane Trickster with Ranged Legerdemain in the party (highly unlikely) to disable it from outside the activation range. The spectral lampblack would render a single person completely invisible to the hound (which is able to perceive normally invisible or ethereal creatures), allowing them to get close enough to attempt a Disable Device check.

Of course the lampblack fools all forms of magical sensing, which includes symbol effects, explosive runes, etc. as well as scrying sensors, magic mouth triggers, and a host of other magical nuisances. I felt that the rogue class and its iconic trapfinding/disabling abilities took a backseat to things like dispel magic at higher levels, and I really wanted to provide a way for rogues to get in there and "do their thing" without relying on wizards and clerics to simply dispel or otherwise completely circumvent magical obstacles.

And, to answer Steve Miller's question, the lampblack would not defeat discern location since it is not actually creating a magical "sensor" which reacts to or perceives the user's presence, it is FINDING that person. This is my interpretation of how/why discern location circumvents normal protection from scrying (as it states in the spell description).

Thank you all very much for your kind words! It is an honor to be selected this year and I will do my best to live up to the standards of this fine competition! I am still in shock over seeing my name up here!

I'll start fishing for a replacement for Joy this afternoon. I'm rather busy this morning running errands and whatnot. Kamau's player is a personal friend of mine, so I'll kick him in the butt and get him back into things as well. Agreed on the holding pattern until Pyrrius gets back. You guys have a lot of planning and whatnot to do in the meantime anyway.

Rather than continuing to bog down the game thread, I thought I'd mention the glowing effect on Falla Caesenri here. According to the standard rules for magic items:

Light Generation: Fully 30% of magic weapons shed light equivalent to a light spell. These glowing weapons are quite obviously magical. Such a weapon can't be concealed when drawn, nor can its light be shut off. Some of the specific weapons detailed below always or never glow, as defined in their descriptions.

I mentioned that it was glowing much, much earlier (right after Runzyl bought the upgrades to it). I continued to play up the idea of a visible, palpable enchantment since then. I figured, since 30% of all magic weapons glow (per RAW) it was not unreasonable for Falla Caesenri to be one such weapon. My apologies if I didn't make it clear (you're also welcome to veto the glow if you feel it's out of place).

Hooray! Happy New Years to everyone and game on!

For the record, the ring of counterspells is currently empty and thus able to receive a spell if anyone wants to put one in it. I expect the posting will slow down for the next few days as the majority of us will be involved in various holiday celebrations and whatnot. That is to be expected and I wish all of you a happy holiday, whatever your religious (or un-religious) affiliation may be. :D

I have added the target list and what (very limited) information you have on them at this time to the campaign tab, as requested.

Spectral Lampblack
Aura strong abjuration; CL 13th
Slot none; Price 4500 gp; Weight –
Description
This chalky black pigment provides the user with a variety of benefits against detection. When liberally applied to the skin as a full-round action, the spectral lampblack cuts the user off from the ethereal plane and renders them invisible to ethereal creatures and all forms of magical sensors for 10 minutes. While under the effects of the lampblack, the user does not set off magical effects (such as traps) that are designed to respond to the user's presence unless the activation is tied to a mechanical trigger (which the user may still activate normally). Additionally, the lampblack prevents the user from utilizing extradimensional travel (as dimensional anchor) due to the nature of the barrier between planes that the item creates. Complete immersion in water or other liquid removes the pigment and terminates the benefits of the item prematurely.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, sequester, dimensional anchor; Cost 2250 gp

In my opinion, a cantrip is not powerful enough to do the things you mentioned. While I have no objection to ray of frost being used to chill a drink, for instance, I think using it to outright freeze water solid is asking a bit much. At best, it might be able to create a very thin layer of ice, but certainly nothing load-bearing.

Runzyl nods and follows the Shadow Marcher's lead, adopting a guarded and careful stance while remaining vigilant for hidden dangers. He takes Falla Caesenri into his hands, the weapon's enchantment pulsing softly, but he keeps it low and to the side. While he certainly wanted to be prepared, the elf knew it was unwise to bear open hostility in such matters.

The only stacking bleed in the game is Bleeding Critical. A high-crit build with this feat, maximizing the number of possible attacks (and thus possible crits) is the best way I'm aware of to rapidly stack bleed damage. The prerequisites are, as with most critical feats, fairly high-level (11+) but a fighter or ranger dual-wielding high crit weapons (such as keen kukris) is very likely to stack a lot of bleed on a foe during a full attack.

Bleeding Critical (Combat, Critical)

Your critical hits cause opponents to bleed profusely.
Prerequisites: Critical Focus, base attack bonus +11.
Benefit: Whenever you score a critical hit with a slashing or piercing weapon, your opponent takes 2d6 points of bleed damage (see Conditions) each round on his turn, in addition to the damage dealt by the critical hit. Bleed damage can be stopped by a DC 15 Heal skill check or through any magical healing. The effects of this feat stack.
Special: You can only apply the effects of one critical feat to a given critical hit unless you possess Critical Mastery.

Regarding the CL 16th icy prison, the description of the spell says the target is helpless but can still breathe. While the straight DC 31 STR check might be a bit challenging, if the dragon can still breathe then it can use its breath weapon. 12d10 fire damage ought to completely slag that prison in a single go (the ice would have 48 hp total).

I assume you're casting defensively to avoid provoking an AoO. Since you don't need an attack roll to hit with burning hands, I'll use your roll of 13 + your 9 concentration bonus, which is plenty to make the DC 17 check. Reflex: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (9) + 1 = 10

Solace's arcane fire spreads out from her hands, enveloping the monstrosity's flank and rendering it fully immolated on both sides. Slabs of burning undead flesh begin to peel away from the creature like rotten tree bark, splashing into the sewage with a hiss. Unbelievably, it still stands, but its destruction is clearly imminent.

Ventar/Haruk/Albrekt are up now.

Dust Raven wrote:

Yep, I'd love to see a mage popping out and leaving behind all his clothes and gear while appearing somewhere else naked.

But yeah, you can use teleport spells and similar abilities to teleport out of binds grapples and entanglements. The fact dimension door doesn't have any somatic or material components makes this really really easy too.

It's just as hard to cast DD in a grapple as it is any spell.

Incorrect.

Grappling or Pinned: The only spells you can cast while grappling or pinned are those without somatic components and whose material components (if any) you have in hand. Even so, you must make a concentration check (DC 10 + the grappler's CMB + the level of the spell you're casting) or lose the spell.

Only if the spell does not have any somatic components at all and only if you have any material components ACTIVELY HELD IN HAND (not in your spell component pouch) can you even attempt to cast a spell. Since dimension door has neither of these components, it can be cast simply by making the concentration check.

Albrekt takes a tentative step out, attempting to cross the channel, but his foot strikes some large metallic object which causes him to falter. His armor, in terrible need of maintenance, catches on his cloak as he attempts to correct himself and sends the behemoth face down into the water.

Swimming in armor with no ranks = bad idea. :)

As the antipaladin struggles to bring himself upright, the current slowly begins to pull his form away from the group as he thrashes to untangle himself from his own devastated clothing. The current eventually carries him towards the intersection where the vampire spawn attacked where Albrekt discovers the sewage is considerably deeper. His thrashing figure hesitates a moment at the surface and then submerges completely.

Fortunately, your CON score is higher than 8, so you don't drown before finally making that successful check...

A moment passes in the eerie silence after Albrekt disappeared beneath the sewage. A few nervous glances are exchanged between the party members. Then, without warning, the Rovagite explodes up from the sludge at the northeastern edge of the intersection, gasping for breath and spitting up the vile sewage.

You're very, very lucky that you don't suffer from diseases right now. You are, however, considerably more smelly than before.

Albrekt manages to drag himself up onto the northern side, completely soaked from head to toe. He checks himself over for a moment, then trudges over to the fallen form of the woman on the north side.

A few words on Knowledge checks for identifying creatures:

When you make a Knowledge check to identify a creature, you should know that there are several factors involved in determining the difficulty of the check and how much information you receive about the creature if you are successful. The DC of a knowledge check to identify a creature depends on both how common the creature is and how challenging it is. Obviously, more is known about less challenging creatures simply because more people have survived to tell about their dealings with them. :)

Incredibly common creatures such as goblins, orcs, and pretty much all of the core races are DC 5 + CR. Obviously, the CR doesn't matter for general knowledge (a human has the same basic traits whether he's a level 1 commoner or a 20th level cleric) but determining the abilities of most humanoids requires other Knowledges such as Arcana, Nobility, or Religion.

"Normal" creatures are DC 10 + CR. This includes a wide variety of creatures, but not lesser known templates or variants of those creatures. It might be enough to identify a troll, for example, but a skrag, the water-dwelling troll variant, is a bit more obscure. Pretty much anything in the Bestiary will fall under this category.

Unusual creatures are DC 15 + CR. This includes pretty much any creature variant, most extraplanar creatures (except for the very obscure), and other atypical creatures. Most creatures from the Bestiary 2 or Bestiary 3 will fall into this group, as will pretty much any templated creature.

Rare creatures are DC 20 + CR. These creatures are often almost legendary and are seldom seen by anyone (or, at least, anyone who lives). Obscure creatures with multiple templates, exotic outsiders, and some types of mythical fae will fall under this category.

Remember that Knowledge checks with a DC above 10 cannot be attempted untrained under normal circumstances.

Now, with all that said, what happens when you succeed? Well, first of all, a successful knowledge check will tell you the name of the creature, its type (humanoid, undead, dragon, etc.), its hit dice, and the CR. Additionally, you learn 1 piece of information about the creature. For every 5 points you beat the DC by, you learn an additional piece of information. If you manage to beat the DC by 20 or more, you learn the entire statblock. The "pieces of information" you can learn include the following:

Senses: You learn whether the creature has darkvision, low-light vision, tremorsense, blindsight, etc. You are also aware of whether or not the creature possesses especially keen senses (such as scent or a racial bonus to Perception checks).
Defensive Abilities/DR/Immune/Resist/SR: You learn all of the creature's unusual defensive abilities including damage reduction, immunities, resistances, and spell resistance.
Weaknesses: You learn all of the creature's unusual weaknesses such as light blindess, sunlight vulnerability, vulnerability to elemental damage types, etc.
Special Attacks: You learn all of a creature's special offensive maneuvers, including grab, swallow whole, trample, etc.
Spell-Like Abilities: You learn all of a creature's spell-like abilities.
Ability Scores/Base Atk/CMB/CMD: You gain the general idea of a creature's core stats and combat prowess.
Feats/Skills: You learn the creature's exceptional skills and any feats it possesses. Since these may vary from individual to individual, you learn only those which are common to all or most members of the species.
Languages: You learn whether or not the creature can speak or understand languages and if so, which languages it commonly knows.
SQ: You learn any special qualities possessed by the creature such as regeneration, fast healing, racial qualities, etc.
Special Abilities: You learn of any of the creature's more unique special abilities that are not characterized elsewhere.

I will always post the DC to learn about a creature when I call for a check to identify it. Remember that Knowledge checks cannot be retried for the same creature until research is done or another rank in the skill is gained. Once you know the DC and the result of your roll, you will be able to identify how many pieces of information you may obtain. Select a number of choices from the list above equal to the result and I will provide that information to you with a spoiler.

EXAMPLE: Solace wants to know about an aboleth. Since aboleths are a "normal" CR 7 monster, the DC is set at 17. Let's say she rolls a 24. At 17, she learned that the creature was an aboleth, she learned it is an aberration (aquatic subtype), she learned that it has 8 hit dice and that it is CR 7 in addition to a single piece of information. At 22, she learns an additional piece of information. Her check of 24 is not quite high enough to get the third piece of info (she needed a 27), but she can now request two of the informational tidbits listed above.

In my experience, "Defensive Abilities" and "Special Attacks" are the most commonly requested items, but you may decide that there are other things that might be more useful to know. That is entirely your decision. I hope this helps shed a little light on how I do things.

When will my players learn they will get what they need instead of forcing the issues?

Probably when their GM learns that there's little point to having a gold system in the game if it never matters.

I find that it's pretty hard to argue with the vanilla elf wizard. You basically get Spell Penetration for free (and it stacks with Spell Penetration, so SR can be made almost trivial), a +2 to your prime casting stat, a +2 to your most often used to-hit stat (and AC stat), and resistance to some of the most debilitating spells and effects in the game. The bonus to Spellcraft for identifying items is just icing, but it's especially good at low levels.

My Starsoul Sorcerer took Dazing Spell at 5th level; he's got Magical Lineage [Magic Missile] so Dazing Magic Missile is a 3rd level spell for him. Now that he's 6th level, he can cast Dazing Magic Missiles with his third level slots.

I am planning on taking Quicken Spell as his 7th level Bloodline feat - he won't be able to use Quickened Magic Missiles until 8th level with a 4th level slot.

This isn't exactly the same issue. Technically speaking, metamagic feats have no prerequisites. A 1st-level fighter could take Maximize Spell if he wanted to, even though it wouldn't do him any good.

A character advances in level as soon as he earns enough experience points to do so...(snip)

...When adding new levels of an existing class or adding levels of a new class (see Multiclassing, below), make sure to take the following steps in order. First, select your new class level. You must be able to qualify for this level before any of the following adjustments are made. Second, apply any ability score increases due to gaining a level. Third, integrate all of the level's class abilities and then roll for additional hit points. Finally, add new skills and feats. For more information on when you gain new feats and ability score increases, see Table: Character Advancement and Level-Dependent Bonuses.

Emphasis mine.

A character gains all the benefits of leveling up when he levels up. He cannot, by RAW, "hold off" on leveling until some other prerequisite is met. If your player's character will not qualify for his feat until level 4, then he must wait until level 5 (when he gets his next feat) to take it.

The "Typhoid Mary"-deal is probably something for NPCs anyway; PCs only really benefit from penalties you can inflict during a fight.

A high-Charisma antipaladin could be an effective disease-based assassin, walking into a ballroom or gala, looking every part the dashing hero... and then shake hands with the local king or kiss the hand of an important ambassador, only to have them die several days later from a crippling illness and none would be the wiser.

Fatespinner wrote:

That's true. I could see Rolund being like "F##+ you guys!" and buying a 50,000gp suit of enchanted adamantine armor.

You, sir, have wronged me. With 400,000 gp, I can buy an epic suit of enchanted adamantine armor. ;P

Oh right, I forgot that it worked out to 50k EACH, not 50k TOTAL. It's been a long week. Let's just sink 90k into buying our own airship so that we don't need Marrius anymore.

No Direction (allows you to make someone else become lost)

Sea Invisibility (renders bodies of water invisible)

Arcane Aye (allows you to agree with someone magically)

Detest Thoughts (allows you to hate everything people around you are thinking about)

Incest Swarm (........ew)

Lightening Bolt (causes everything in a 120' line to weigh less)

lol - that's kinda the point... I'm peppering his limited chat with the odd German/Old Germanic term (to reflect his Northman blood) :) Just flavour as to be honest he's hardly the font of all knowledge! If its annoying to read though let me know and I can scale it back or drop it

Personally, I like it. It reflects the fact that some people have very thick accents... and just like you might have difficulty understanding a foreigner's accent in the real world, it's very possible that Haruk just cannot understand Albrekt's mush-mouthed Common.

It means that my obligation to entertain a half-dozen ungrateful hooligans on a weekly basis has finally come to a (usually temporary) end.

We'll try not to kill Camlo while you are away.

Speak for yourself. ::evil grin::

By night, I do public health research focusing on sex through surveys in the field.

Some afternoons, I make calls based on the public health research.

I see what you did there. Well played.

I've always operated under the assumption that gaining a level does not reduce the wounds that you have already taking (total HP missing) but simply increases your capacity to endure those wounds (max HP).

Take this example:

A 1st-level barbarian has 16 maximum hit points. In a fight, he suffers 9 points of damage, leaving him with 7 HP remaining. After the fight, he levels and adds a new hit die. Assuming an average roll plus his CON modifier of +3, his maximum hit points increase by 10. His new maximum HP is 26, but he is still missing 9 HP from that 26 until he receives healing (meaning he has 17 HP remaining after the level up).

I pretty much never start a campaign at level 1. Level 2-3 is my usual start. Level 1 characters are too easily brought down by a single crit or a failed save. Level 2-3 at least gives you a fighting chance to survive one.

These magical boots allow their wearer to ignore the adverse movement effects of difficult terrain, including granting the ability to take 5-foot steps in, or to make a charge through, difficult terrain.

I'd probably give it a market price of 2,000gp. I can't tell you how often my party and I have been totally screwed by difficult terrain. What do you think? What price would seem balanced to you as a GM for just such an ability?

2,000gp seems low for something like this. If it simply allowed you to take a 5' step in difficult terrain, that's one thing, but ignoring it completely? I'd price it at at least 5,000gp myself, maybe even 8,000. The ability to charge through difficult terrain is pretty hard to acquire otherwise.

"But what about the crime lords? Can you keep them at bay?"

The Varisian smirks and looks to Camlo.

"Camlo... we just killed a black dragon. And Hudak dropped a tower on the Black Magga in Turtleback Ferry. I'm hardly worried about crime lords at this point."

Paladins are fantastic. They make amazing "tanks" who are still able to dish out a considerable amount of damage against most foes.

Rogues are their skill points. Sneak attack, as a source of consistent damage output, pales in comparison to most other martial classes. Even if your rogue is able to CONSTANTLY get sneak attack, at best you end up staying even with the greatsword-wielding power attacker, but you've got way fewer hit points and (usually) a lower armor class, so you end up getting smashed easier.

The best way (in my opinion) to "fix" rogues would be to do any one of three different things:

1.) Give them full BAB. If they're a martial class, make them martial. Let them get their two-weapon fighting chain as fast as possible and make reliable attack routines.

2.) Upgrade Sneak Attack to d10s, but remove the "flanking" caveat. This makes rogues the master of the ambush. Catch a target off-guard or, better yet, blind him? You shank the CRAP out of them. Rogues shouldn't be about fighting fair, they should be about winning. (Spells like greater invisibility would need to be adapted to prevent this from getting seriously out of hand.)

3.) Give them a lot more survivability. Either by increasing HP, giving a passive armor bonus (like monks), or some innate abilities that just make them less of an easy mark in melee.

Monks are weak because of their multiple ability dependency. I have a very simple fix for monks: Add WIS modifier to unarmed damage. This lets them remove the focus from STR and focus on JUST DEX and WIS. They're never going to outdamage a greatsword-wielding fighter, but a base improvement in their unarmed damage along with their considerable repertoire of combat maneuvers and high defenses lets them fill a useful role in most parties.

I have a paladin of Iomedae who uses a longsword and shield in Pathfinder Society. I don't feel that he lacks for much hitting power at all. Could I probably do more damage with another weapon? Sure. But he's a paladin of Iomedae. It just makes sense.

@Fatespinner

Hey, I get your point. And I agree with you, but I gotta disagree with some of your chosen examples.

I wasn't suggesting that there was NOTHING those characters could do, just like there isn't "nothing" for a fighter to do against flying enemies.

The fighter uses his bow against flyers. It's not his best skill, but he can do it.

The sorcerer summons or uses Conjurations with SR: No, even if he's primarily built for blasting.

The bard buffs the party and maybe attacks with a ghost touch weapon or, as you said, points out weaknesses.

The rogue really is kind of screwed, actually.

The paladin, yes, can just step up and be a sub-par fighter for awhile.

These are situations in which the character isn't at 100%, which is all I was illustrating. :)

Oh, wait, you mean there's a situation in Pathfinder in which a given class isn't able to play to the utmost of its ability? A fighter might have to use a bow instead of his greatsword? Wow, that must be hard.

What does the sorcerer do when the party fights a magic-immune golem?

What does the bard do when the party fights undead?

What does the rogue do when the party fights incorporeal foes?

What does the paladin do when the party fights non-evil enemies?

Your character is not supposed to be at 100% effectiveness all the time. Sometimes circumstances exist that mitigate your character's usefulness. That's why you have a PARTY. In any situation in which you are rendered less effective, one or more of your party members should be right in their element. It's just part of the game.

I am ready, willing, and able to put up as much as 20% of my gross income to pay taxes if it means never having to pay medical bills or worry about rising insurance costs.

20%. I will give nearly an entire week's paycheck every month to see this happen. I feel that I'd be making out like a bandit on the deal, in fact. Because, right now, private health insurance would cost about the same amount. And I still have deductibles. And co-pays. And all that other crap.

I'm *READY* to pay 20% taxes. This s!#& needs to STOP. I doubt Obamacare is ever going to cost me 20%, so for me? It's a step in the right direction.

Fort save: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (18) + 8 = 26. Success, even with the elevated DC.

Vethran presses himself against the inside of the stone wall, seeking shelter from the fireball-tossers. Still menaced by the devil, he guards his casting carefully.

5' step to G13. Casting defensively, DC 17. 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (15) + 15 = 30 easily succeeds.

The Varisian completes his incantation and is enveloped in a brief glow of benevolent light. "Piss off, fiend!"

Protection from evil up on me. That should hopefully prevent the devil from continuing to attack.

Perception: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3. Vethran walks off the side of the bridge.

I am finally re-employed! Still settling in at work, today was my second day on the job. Once I'm settled in, I suspect I'll be more regularly updating here. Sorry for being so intermittent these last few weeks. Lots of stuff going on lately. New house, new job, daughter just graduated kindergarten, etc.

Phew!

Sweet deal! I think I might just store my entire collection on my Nook!

I was one of the contributing authors on this product and after I received my contributor copy, I discovered that my favorite spell (sodden ship) wasn't even one that I'd written! What Dale says is true, though, that there are several well-written spells in this product that are very much catered to a high seas adventure with shipboard combat and monsters from the briny deep.

I don't think I've ever seen another spell that specifically targets vehicles (great for ship combat) nor have I seen spells that specifically alter aquatic terrain (my very own sargasso spell). I really do feel like you're getting something unique here, so take my recommendation however you like. :)