The party I am GMing for squibbed The Man's Promise and renamed it The Liar's Fortune. Simple enough name but after a few adventures things started to go off the rails. The second ship became The Mystery Machine. They recently just captured 4 vessels and have decided to name them:
If the character is supposed to be a Master Assassin, he likely has a good streak of paranoia running through him as well. This means things like running dossiers on the PCs, setting up traps, making sure the battleground is to his advantage, etc. What that means is that even by his lonesome, he'd never be facing more than 1 character at a time if he can and even when he's facing 2 or more, he's doing so in such a way that their numbers are to his advantage not theirs.
dkp44 wrote: For part 13: The Frying Pan if the PC's somehow manage to take the Dominator do they get XP for all 120 marines and the captain (~50000xp) or just the ones they killed? Also do they get XP for the ship itself CR9 in addition to the crew? The PCs should in no way be encouraged or capable of taking The Dominator. I know that there are others in this thread that have allowed it, but there are also numerous threads that detail the problems of letting that happen as well. We're talking about a ship that is an experienced and capable pirate hunting vessel. It's use is to present Cheliax as a threat, and is best used as a reoccuring villain. I strongly encourage you to not let your PCs take the vessel under any circumstances, given that as written, simply escaping The Dominator can lead to TPKs.
Prince of Knives wrote:
I believe DragoDorn was just correcting your code to link directly.
One possibility is to make the Scrying Pools only truly useful to someone who is a cyclops. Example: Visions seen by non-cyclops are hostile and can actively hurt the PCs. This would allow you to either seed future story threads ("visions of things to come") or allow them to scry upon the village itself but have to face versions of what they see. This serves a dual purpose of making the scrying pools useful as both a story tool and allowing the PCs to see what they'll be facing soon. If you take this approach though be certain to have it such that anyone who "dies" during an encounter with the pool is just knocked unconscious and suffers a negative level or two for a few days while they recover from the experience. It allows you to go whole hog on the danger without causing an accidental TPK on a side-quest.
Prince of Knives wrote: So I wrote a thing... It's a thing! A well thought out thing, and a well worded argument. The "bag of cats" thing never sat right with me but I understand why some people use it as a base point to compare mechanics.
The only thing that is essential to play Skull & Shackles is the Adventure Path books themselves (in either print or PDF) and a couple of sets of dice. For longterm investment you'll want to pickup a copy of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, but when you're just getting started the d20pfsrd or Paizo's own PRD are just fine. If you're planning on running it then having 3 (active) players is enough, but the APs are generally designed for a group of 4, having 3 is a slight handicap but you can help them out by either giving the players a slightly higher point-buy at the start or running a DM-PC to help them out (and the AP has a number of them available from the start). Get them started by directing them to download a copy of the Skull & Shackles Player's Guide and I highly suggest running character generation as a group to get an idea of what kind of party you'll have on your hand. Miniatures are in no way required for this game and it can all be run through the power of imagination, though the miniatures help out a bit. If you want to just run the campaign as written you'll be just fine but there are a number of additional products that you can get that will help enhance it:
After that, check out the various threads here in the forums for advice on tweaking the campaign or adding stuff to it.
So, Saturday night my gaming group finally got together again after nearly 6 weeks of not playing due to a number of unfortunate events getting in the way. The night started off with the introduction of newcomer Barclay (Ratfolk Wood-Oracle) who has been stranded on the island for a while and seen a number of the stranger elements upon the Isle of Empty Eyes but really just wants to A) get off the island safely, and B) help the couple of other survivors under his care to get better. See, in my tweaked campaign the Cyclopes are using the power of the dreamstone as a mind-control device to try to rebuild their ruined city and search for more artifacts, using the crews of pirate ships brave (or foolish) enough to come to the island as slave labor. The survivors Barclay is watching after are under the effect of the stone but are too weak/injured to obey it's call. And as fate would have it, the party's captain (who's player was conveniently absent for this session) has fallen under the effects of the stone as well. Barclay can make an antidote (part of his backstory is that he dabbled in herbalism before being shipwrecked on the island) but he's missing a key component: fresh wyvern venom. As noted in my original post, I've add parts of Beacon Island from Razor Coast off the shores of the main island and seeing as how the main island is surrounded by reefs it made perfect sense that such a lighthouse would be there. The party had previously sent their sorcerer to take a peek at the lighthouse and so knew that wyverns were roosting there. Off they went with Barclay in-tow to acquire wyvern venom. Once there they discovered the corpse and journal of a Chelish officer. They have identified the officer as being the true captain of the Dominator and now are speculating as to who is running the Chelish dreadnaught while masquerading as Captain Lorvika in place of this dead woman! (Dun, dun dun!) In the end it was a fun session with rampant speculation, fun roleplay moments, and a dramatic death for the sorcerer which will set the stage for our next session to begin with bargaining with a fey for the means to raise/reincarnate the sorcerer! And wouldn't you know it, Sefina is a fey that's quite curious about humanoids but doesn't much believe in the value of currency.
Jason Nelson wrote:
Oooh...I'm going to have great fun with this one, my PCs have an axe to grind with a certain Imperial state.
hippster59 wrote: Hey guys and gals as the title suggests I have some concerns about Bonewrack Island in the first book of the AP. I have a group that is still relatively new to role-playing and I am worried that the island just might be to tough for them. Does anybody have suggestions on taming the island down a bit but without making the island a cake walk? One of the best suggestions (and one that I used personally) is to change it so that Aaron Ivy is alive when the party encounters him at the fort. Give him a castaway vibe, but as a helpful NPC he will have knowledge about the island that should make it more survivable. It also gives the party a place to retreat to and rest, which is a plus. The other thing that should help (which the fort drives home if used as suggested above) is stressing that the party can run away from encounters without too much penalty. Bonewrack Island is a meat-grinder but only if the PCs approach it that way, besides, it drives the tension up a few notches that the PCs have a semi-deadline before Plugg & Scourge say, "Screw it!" and sail off without them.
Okay, I've glanced over the main body of the class itself and am working my way through the two new disciplines. I must say, I am very impressed with the work and really want to play a zealot now. I'll give more feedback if I get a chance, but my gaming group is currently in side-story mode, so I don't know when we'll get back to a position where I can play one of these.
Ssalarn wrote: I'll make you a deal; if I get one piece of new feedback on each of the current open playtest items (Guru, Daevic, Archetypes, Races) from at least 5 individuals in this thread, I'll put the Pharaoh out for public alpha as soon as the Empty Pyramid discipline is reviewed by Chris Deal. Ssalarn wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Adam B. 135, the majority of the abilities there for "lust" don't really mesh well with each other. You should definitely go with splitting it into two: Lust and Avarice. If you're scrambling for ideas/inspiration for Avarice themed abilities I highly suggest you go take a look at Larfleeze from DC Comic's Green Lantern. Spellstealing effect fits right in for Avarice as does the Covetous Aura that Adam B. 135 tossed in further up. And more for amusement than truly fitting in, but having the Avaric deavic being able to summon a Mad Monkeys effect composed of essence taking on the forms of his/her past victims amuses me to no end.
Anguish wrote:
Think of it as the same way "Summon Monster" full-round actions occur. The ability is on-going until the beginning of the Warder's next turn, allowing it to be interrupted (or in this case trigger) until the Warder finishes it.
Jason Nelson wrote: Next preview up, with a look ahead at Neil Spicer's latest collection of characters, NAUTICAL HEROES! So, having never picked up one of these, how exactly does it work? Are they just pre-genned level 1 characters with backgrounds or does the collection also include their advancement at various levels? I ask because while the former is interesting the latter becomes much more useful as a GM.
Fnipernackle wrote:
Fnipernackle wrote:
Bolded part for emphasis, the mythic version allows any spell to be used as long as it is the same level or higher.
Shadow Bloodmoon wrote:
The ones I know for certain are: Dagiron, Half-Orc Metaforge
Those are the ones in the "Ultimate Psionics Kickstarter" forums on the DSP site, but they might have been re-posted elsewhere.
Prince of Knives wrote:
Awesome, so my post was eaten by the forums, I'll give a shorter version: This is the kind of CE character that I would completely allow at my table as GM. Jewel's an interesting character and I like that she's not all "BURN BURN BURN!" Which is what Chaotic Evil normally gets characterized as, which fits more with certain demons than with a mortal who's not chained to their alignment. I'd like to hear more about Jewel, Ana, and the Rabble. Perhaps you can sneak them in during chapter break fiction pieces like Paizo does with the main hardcovers or the little blurbs in APs.
Ssalarn wrote:
I could get behind this, and as a fellow victim of spontaneous forum-post consumption, you have my sympathies. The support group meets on Thursdays, please bring dip.
Jason Nelson wrote: I will also note that Islands of Plunder: Raid on the Emperor's Hand is coming out in early August, so you may have one more adventure to weave into your narrative plan. That is, if your PCs like plundering ships that have run aground in a dangerous spot, with a race against time to get their first and claim it for their own! Is that the Dominator on the horizon? I HATE THOSE GUYS!!! Sounds like great fun! I know I want Scourge of the Steaming Isle to be the final throw down with the Dominator and its crew, but if I can have them encounter it a few more times before then I'm all for it.
My party has just started book 4 and at the end of last session they arrived at the island. I've made tweaks throughout the campaign, such as the regatta being suspended due to the revelation of the spy ring plot arc that occurs over most the proceeding book. I also truncated the alchemist shop portion of book 3 and replaced it with a slightly scaled up and tweaked Tarin's Crown. The Dominator is still looming around as a menace on the hunt for pirates and the party has a healthy respect/fear of the ship. This brings us to the actual body of the thread, how I'm tying the three Islands of Plunder modules together into my S&S campaign. I figured I would post them here so that others can glean this thread for ideas and/or give me insight on to how to tweak this more! It should be assumed from here on out that everything else is Spoilers both for Island of Empty Eyes and the Islands of Plunder series. One of the tweaks I made in Tarin's Crown to tie it further into the story was that Tarin was a pawn of the Chelish spy ring and the goal was to smuggle the artifact out of the Shackles into Chelish hands. The Dominator was supposed to be the ship to pick up the artifact from Tarin and his erstwhile navigator (stat block replaced with the alchemist from book 3). The crew of the Dominator is now more determined than ever to hunt down the party and I intend to give the party the chance to have a throw down with the ship at the end of the book in place of the feast, but we'll get to that in a second. Now, my party has completed Tarin's Crown and returned to Port Peril to report their success to Tessa Fairwind, who in my campaign is acting as their patron. Given that the regatta has been indefinitely suspended until a council vote brings it back, the party is pretty pissed, given that: a) Tessa was going to pay their entry fee, so it looks like she weaseled out of a deal; and b) they were informed of this by Harrigan, who hasn't blatantly acted out against them since the Wormwood but has been hounding them through agents throughout, though the party has no definitive proof of this. Since the regatta has been canceled for the time being, their is no in game reason for the party to be given the Island of Empty Eyes as a reward for it, so I've decided that Tessa Fairwind went there to try to influence Bikendi on a Pirate Council vote. In my game Bikendi is a reclusive Pirate Lord that no one's heard from in a number of years, so there's every reason for Tessa to head there. After some sleuthing around the party has made it to the island and found Tessa's ship anchored in the main bay completely abandoned, and here's where the main tweaking begins! Since I want the Island to have a better tie-in to the overall narrative arc of the campaign, I've expanded a bit on the "haunted" premise presented with the old Chelish fort. I've also added Beacon Island from Razor Coast as a little side adventure for the party since we use slow advancement. Now, the next session is going to begin with the party's haunted dreams, wherein they will play out a small scenario. I will have the party experience the downfall of Tessa's one true love at the hands of his first-mate and a certain sea-hag who will become more important as I continue on. For this I'm using a scaled up version of the second half of Spices & Flesh. We'll be skipping past the slave ship part and straight to the small isle at the end, with the objective being to seize the hag's dreamstone in order to tie it back into book 4. I've scaled up the encounters and retooled the hag a bit (She's now a Divine Sea Hag Knife-Master Rogue 8). The intent is for the party to drive her off and seize the dreamstone from her for Bikendi's research and then to flash-forward through the power of dreams to her forcing the ship they're on to run into the reefs surrounding the Isle of Empty Eyes. Here the first-mate, a one Dwali Kepu, will betray the captain and rename his ship the Wormwood. See where I'm going with this? Later once the party has reclaimed or destroyed the dreamstone from the Cyclops ruins, they'll have a visit from the good ship Dominator. The reason for the rebuild of the hag is it's going to be revealed that the captain of the ship is actually the alias Shayonna has assumed over the decade since her defeat and is using her resources to hunt down what she believes is hers. The PCs will have received reports of their various holdings and allies having been attacked by the Dominator and that's when I'll allow them to track it down to the Steam Isle and have a final throwdown with the Chelish marines and its monstrous captain, and that will set the stage for book 5! So, if you've made it this far through my long-winded ramble, I thank you. If you have any suggestions, questions, or tweaks, I would love to hear them!
Lincoln Hills wrote: As long as we're talking about the psi-loving niche market, it would be nice to see archetypes for the ranger, paladin, and perhaps even the bard which swapped out their spellcasting for psi. In Ultimate Psionics there's a paladin archetype called the Purifier that trades spellcasting for manifesting. The bard archetype doesn't lose spellcasting but gains a collective and I don't remember offhand what the ranger trades out.
Aratrok wrote: Yeah. But that's all it does, damage. Maneuvers come with defensive benefits (especially the stuff attendant with stances) and utility options that don't involved just doing more damage... while matching the damage benefits of psychic strike or being more effective. Plus it actually works on mindless creatures. Just spit-balling here: Perhaps replace the blade skills learned at 4th, 10th, and 16th? It roughly lines up with when the War Soul would learn new stances and the lost blade skills are made up in utility from the stances/maneuvers.
Insain Dragoon wrote:
Oh, I quite agree, there's not many ways currently to deal with the issue. I was just throwing it out there as how to accomplish it using either a boost or a maneuver. Really, the only incentive that exists right now to dual wield with a firearm is the Sword and Pistol feat, and that has a heavy feat investment to it.
Insain Dragoon wrote:
Probably should just be baked into one or more stances to do that, no need to make a special rule exception. Quote: This discipline could also work well for someone who wants a pistol in one hand and a melee implement in the other. How would you handle needing a free hand to reload in this case?
Sprocket262 wrote: Wow, it was actually pretty easy destroy it, we got the Alchemist into the powder stores and he blew it up, i'm guessing that was not supposed to happen and the Dominator was not played correctly. Likely not, granted this is the only time as written that it shows up, but your GM has lost out on a number of possible opportunities. In either event, don't expect to pull the same trick the next time a similar threat shows up.
The Dominator as written does not call out that it has any spell casters as part of its normal crew compliment but that does not mean that it wouldn't have any. The stat block for the ship only details 136 members of the crew and then says there are 60 others, a minimum of 20 of which are faceless mook sailors. In either case, the Dominator is not meant to be taken, and the AP actually advises against allowing PCs to try as it can very easily lead to a TPK and end the AP right there.
tbug wrote: I'm thinking that the encounter with Gamin "Half-Ear" Crystos will be more effective if the PCs have met him elsewhere first. I can easily seed him into some tavern encounter or something, but if any of you do anything more dramatic with him I'd be interested in hearing about it. Well, how far in are you? If you're still on the Wormwood you could always have him be a helpful NPC on the ship so the PCs start to like the guy. If you're at Rickety's he could fill a similar role, or be a friendly rival during the downtime there.
tbug wrote:
For what it's worth, when Mythic Adventures came out my group was near the end of Book 2. I didn't feel like having two books end with underwater dungeons, and my party wasn't really taking the hints to go to Mancatcher Cove, so I ran the adventure in the back of MA instead (with some suitable piratey tweaking of course). My players had a blast and really got to feel like big-damn-heroes there, but I followed that adventure's advice and took away their tiers at the end of it. As such, it's become a story for them to tell in taverns around the Shackles, and something they use to show how powerful they are when someone tries to mess with them. The mythic stuff can be very useful in that regard, but I don't feel it fits overall with the campaign as a whole. I think the suggestion in Spices & Flesh to give them a one-time boost is a fantastic way to allow your players a taste of the greater glory that comes from defeating mythic foes without actually having to change your campaign on a fundamental level. Mythic stuff is great if you're prepared for it from the start, but it really is a different play style that can be a hard transition if you're not ready for it.
Jason Nelson wrote:
I couldn't wait so I went ahead and picked it up on the site. I noticed this one doesn't have a scaling up/down section like Tarin's Crown does. I'll give further impressions when I have a chance to sit down for a longer read through but it looks quite interesting so far. Wish I had it back in book 2.
Jason Nelson wrote:
Done and done, any clue when Spices and Flesh will be up on the Paizo store?
mbauers wrote:
I actually ended up using Tarin's Crown as the culmination of the spy-ring arc. I had the pearl be an object that the spy-ring was trying to smuggle out of the Shackles. The stealing of the pearl became a heist from a Besmaran temple, and being the fickle and easily angered goddess she is, I declared that Besmara was angry at the whole of the Shackles for it. Tarin and his crew became Chelish naval deserters that were attempting to use the pearl as a means to buy pardons from Cheliax and House Thrune (it also allowed me to bring the Dominator for Book 2 back). Lots of double-crossing involved, and the alchemist battle in the shop was saved til later (she already got away and was used as the navigator for Tarin's ship). It also allowed a handy way for there to be a reason for the PCs to care about Tarin in the first place and another test for Tessa.
Jason Nelson wrote:
Looking forward to it! My group finished Tarin's Crown last night and I must say that the final series of encounters can be fairly brutal. I switched it up a little bit from what was printed to further an on going story thread vs the Chelish (specifically the Dominator) that my party has but they greatly enjoyed it all and are looking into the logistics of the island to either raze it (Vegepygmies are creepy!) or do something else with it.
ErrantX wrote:
Just from a quick glance over, the formatting of the maneuvers table looks a bit weird on there. I know from the text of the abilities they gain maneuvers at even-levels but the table does not convey that easily. Just a thought.
Ssalarn wrote:
Not going to go for the iconic/cover level there Ssalarn? ^_-
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