Dreamscarred Press introduces the Path of War


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ErrantX wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
ErrantX wrote:

Martial Training is a Combat Feat, so taking the "Combat Trick" talent would cover that.

-X

Yes and no. You can only take combat trick once. All the other feats of the line would still have to come from the character's regular feats.

Ya know, that's really a trick that you should be able to take multiple times...

Well, that's why we're making a martial rogue archetype for PoW2.

-X

Pathfinder kidna went there already with the Slayer. Full BAB, 6+Int Skills, 6/9ths sneak attack.

That said, even it only has combat trick once :|

It'll be interesting to see it!


Sayt wrote:
ErrantX wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
ErrantX wrote:

Martial Training is a Combat Feat, so taking the "Combat Trick" talent would cover that.

-X

Yes and no. You can only take combat trick once. All the other feats of the line would still have to come from the character's regular feats.

Ya know, that's really a trick that you should be able to take multiple times...

Well, that's why we're making a martial rogue archetype for PoW2.

-X

Pathfinder kidna went there already with the Slayer. Full BAB, 6+Int Skills, 6/9ths sneak attack.

That said, even it only has combat trick once :|

It'll be interesting to see it!

I know nothing about slayer, I stopped keeping an eye on the playtests for that book a while ago. That being said, the martial rogue will be a thing still, but not as expansive as a full class. Just a simple archetype.

-X


Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!


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Barachiel Shina wrote:
Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!

I have just submitted my final edits. Now it's just up to the eternally-overworked Jeremy.


Anguish wrote:
Barachiel Shina wrote:
Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!
I have just submitted my final edits. Now it's just up to the eternally-overworked Jeremy.

You are my favorite human today. Just FYI.

-X


Anguish wrote:
Barachiel Shina wrote:
Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!
I have just submitted my final edits. Now it's just up to the eternally-overworked Jeremy.

You have won 5 internets Anguish, how do you feel?

I for one would love to see a martial rogue archetype. Keep up the cool ErrantX.


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ErrantX wrote:
Anguish wrote:
Barachiel Shina wrote:
Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!
I have just submitted my final edits. Now it's just up to the eternally-overworked Jeremy.

You are my favorite human today. Just FYI.

-X

Chris, just to let you know... having actually (finally) read everything word-for-word, I'm impressed by the creativity. We can all sit and critique another person's work, and we can all armchair design material, but you pulled it all together and made a coherent book. I liked the themes more than ToB. The disciples were clearly different, which is great.

So hey. Great job.


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Adam B. 135 wrote:
You have won 5 internets Anguish, how do you feel?

I feel initiator disciple level maneuver recovery swift bonus saving throw strike boost.


Anguish wrote:
ErrantX wrote:
Anguish wrote:
Barachiel Shina wrote:
Can't for the final PDF release. Waiting anxiously to download!
I have just submitted my final edits. Now it's just up to the eternally-overworked Jeremy.

You are my favorite human today. Just FYI.

-X

Chris, just to let you know... having actually (finally) read everything word-for-word, I'm impressed by the creativity. We can all sit and critique another person's work, and we can all armchair design material, but you pulled it all together and made a coherent book. I liked the themes more than ToB. The disciples were clearly different, which is great.

So hey. Great job.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. You're awesome :)

-X

Paizo Employee Design Manager

Anguish wrote:
Adam B. 135 wrote:
You have won 5 internets Anguish, how do you feel?
I feel initiator disciple level maneuver recovery swift bonus saving throw strike boost.

Uh oh, you've got Path of War PTSD, we need to expose you to some new terminology ASAP!

...

I think Akashic Mysteries could probably stand a read-through....

:)

Also, touch bases with me when you get the chance, several of those animal-themed veils you sent me that didn't make the cut for this book might be fun to tie in to PrC's and supplemental material in the follow-up I'm starting to work on.

Speaking of that follow up.... Jade (aka Prince of Stabby Things) has been giving me some tips and assistance with our akashic/initiator hybrid class the Pharaoh. In exchange for review and community involvement, I opened this one up for live development over in the Akashic Mysteries thread, and I'm planning on having the Empty Pyramid discipline added to the document by Monday of next week, if not sooner. Anyone not familiar with it already should be aware that this is a live, unfinished, pre-alpha release that I posted up specifically to say "Thank you, you're all awesome, have a look under the hood at this cool new thing that's been added to the pipeline and take a moment to contribute your insight on what you'd like to see it become!"
Note that I was planning on the class being an advanced class of the Warlord and Vizier initially and gave him the Warlord's Scarlet Throne, but there's a really, really good chance that that will be exchanged for the new lance/spear-based discipline whenever it's ready, both for thematic reasons, and because the Pharaoh is really evolving into its own stand-alone class and I don't want Chris hunting me down for breaking the standard he established with each class getting its own proprietary discipline.


Ssalarn wrote:
Anguish wrote:
Adam B. 135 wrote:
You have won 5 internets Anguish, how do you feel?
I feel initiator disciple level maneuver recovery swift bonus saving throw strike boost.

Uh oh, you've got Path of War PTSD, we need to expose you to some new terminology ASAP!

...

I think Akashic Mysteries could probably stand a read-through....

:)

Also, touch bases with me when you get the chance, several of those animal-themed veils you sent me that didn't make the cut for this book might be fun to tie in to PrC's and supplemental material in the follow-up I'm starting to work on.

Speaking of that follow up.... Jade (aka Prince of Stabby Things) has been giving me some tips and assistance with our akashic/initiator hybrid class the Pharaoh. In exchange for review and community involvement, I opened this one up for live development over in the Akashic Mysteries thread, and I'm planning on having the Empty Pyramid discipline added to the document by Monday of next week, if not sooner. Anyone not familiar with it already should be aware that this is a live, unfinished, pre-alpha release that I posted up specifically to say "Thank you, you're all awesome, have a look under the hood at this cool new thing that's been added to the pipeline and take a moment to contribute your insight on what you'd like to see it become!"
Note that I was planning on the class being an advanced class of the Warlord and Vizier initially and gave him the Warlord's Scarlet Throne, but there's a really, really good chance that that will be exchanged for the new lance/spear-based discipline whenever it's ready, both for thematic reasons, and because the Pharaoh is really evolving into its own stand-alone class and I don't want Chris hunting me down for breaking the standard he established with each class getting its own proprietary discipline.

I'll kick up production on the pole arm discipline then. That'll take me less time to mess with then my current work on Mystic. I'm going to try to buckle down and get that into a working alpha within the next two weeks, complete with Elemental Flux.

-X


Ssalarn wrote:
I think Akashic Mysteries could probably stand a read-through....

When you've got it out of development, my services are hereby volunteered.

Paizo Employee Design Manager

ErrantX wrote:


I'll kick up production on the pole arm discipline then. That'll take me less time to mess with then my current work on Mystic. I'm going to try to buckle down and get that into a working alpha within the next two weeks, complete with Elemental Flux.

-X

Sweet!

Man, there's way too much cool stuff in the pipeline. I'm trying really hard to not be too busy writing for Pathfinder to play Pathfinder, but I still feel like there's 5 things I want to play for every 1 thing I actually get to, even counting playtests and one-offs ;P

Anguish wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:
I think Akashic Mysteries could probably stand a read-through....
When you've got it out of development, my services are hereby volunteered.

I believe Jeremy either just finished or is actively finishing layout on the Vizier for a product release of "literally any time now".

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

It's probably going to be after GenCon, because this week just got overloaded-busy, and then next week is all GenCon... But Anguish, I can send you the current iteration.

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Jeremy Smith wrote:
It's probably going to be after GenCon, because this week just got overloaded-busy, and then next week is all GenCon... But Anguish, I can send you the current iteration.

Ah, GenCon, the blessing and curse of every RPG publisher...


Jeremy Smith wrote:
It's probably going to be after GenCon, because this week just got overloaded-busy, and then next week is all GenCon... But Anguish, I can send you the current iteration.

Sold.


Does Anguish show up in the credits for these books?


.....after Gen Con...longer wait. Officially one whole year...ugh...


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Insain Dragoon wrote:
Does Anguish show up in the credits for these books?

I think Anguish has earned a place in there!

-X

Paizo Employee Design Manager

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ErrantX wrote:
Insain Dragoon wrote:
Does Anguish show up in the credits for these books?

I think Anguish has earned a place in there!

-X

Agreed.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

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Barachiel Shina wrote:
.....after Gen Con...longer wait. Officially one whole year...ugh...

I *might* get PoW final out this week. There's a lot of minor edits to make.

It's Akashic Mysteries that won't be out until after GenCon.


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ErrantX wrote:
Insain Dragoon wrote:
Does Anguish show up in the credits for these books?

I think Anguish has earned a place in there!

-X

Why, thank you. As it happens - and I'm pretty sure Jeremy noticed this - my final edit was a tongue-in-cheek observation that the credits page lacked any reference to me. Mostly a joke, but a hint that I'd be tickled pink to be included.


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Anguish, you're a trooper. I salute you!


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Piercing Lance: The discipline of Piercing Lance finds its roots in early skirmishes between mounted hunters, riding on barely tamed horses and wielding crude spears into battle, both in the saddle and on foot. The discipline of the dragoon, Piercing Lance teaches its practitioners to ride hard into battle with powerful mounted charges, and then fight equally well from mount-back or on foot. By teaching its followers to use every part of their hafted weapons and their mounts, disciples of this discipline are inventive and courageous, dauntless in the face of danger. Armed with the skills of countless battles that came before him and the training with the weapons of the mounted combatant, the highly specialized Piercing Lance’s associated skill is Ride and its associated weapon groups are polearms and spears.

Piercing Lance discipline is now available for playtest and critique! Please let us know how you like it and any potential pitfalls that can be found with it!

-X

Paizo Employee Design Manager

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ErrantX wrote:

Piercing Lance: The discipline of Piercing Lance finds its roots in early skirmishes between mounted hunters, riding on barely tamed horses and wielding crude spears into battle, both in the saddle and on foot. The discipline of the dragoon, Piercing Lance teaches its practitioners to ride hard into battle with powerful mounted charges, and then fight equally well from mount-back or on foot. By teaching its followers to use every part of their hafted weapons and their mounts, disciples of this discipline are inventive and courageous, dauntless in the face of danger. Armed with the skills of countless battles that came before him and the training with the weapons of the mounted combatant, the highly specialized Piercing Lance’s associated skill is Ride and its associated weapon groups are polearms and spears.

Piercing Lance discipline is now available for playtest and critique! Please let us know how you like it and any potential pitfalls that can be found with it!

-X

That is perfect for replacing Scarlet Throne on the Pharaoh. And combined with Solar Wind it actually kind of makes the javelin a really badass weapon.


This is one of my most favorite disciplines. The series of maneuvers that use lines are especially cool and an interesting alternative maneuvers that act like cleave.

The series of maneuvers that cause you to dismount need a little something I think. Perhaps the ability to use them on a charge?

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Broze Lancet Charge specifically references "the mounted disciple". Is this ability only useable while mounted? If so, is there any reason why it has to be done while mounted?

Just a thought, but it seems like the "increases to 1d8 if used with a discipline weapon" could be better if it said "increases to 1d8 if used with a discipline weapon while mounted" and remove the initial mounted requirement. That way any initiator benefits from it, but an initiator using it mounted with a polearm or spear gets more oomph.


I think Impaling Comet Strike has an improperly placed 15ft where it means 20ft.


Love it, but omg it really needs a new name!

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Insain Dragoon wrote:
Love it, but omg it really needs a new name!

If I ever get desperate for cash (and have enough free time to work out regularly again) my porn name is going to be Lance Pearcing.

....

Seriously though, ID is not wrong about the need for a new name.

EDIT: I like Impaling Comet, Piercing Thunder, Crashing Lightning, Lunging Serpent, and Greased Lightning.

The last one may not be as valid a suggestion as the others.


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Ssalarn wrote:

EDIT: I like Impaling Comet, Piercing Thunder, Crashing Lightning, Lunging Serpent, and Greased Lightning.

The last one may not be as valid a suggestion as the others.

Go grease lightning, you're burning up the quarter mile...


Piercing Thunder isn't so bad, what do people think about it?

-X


Piercing Thunder gets a very solid B grade from me. It's superior to the current option, but brainstorming shouldn't stop there.


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I like Piercing Thunder, and I recommend sticking with it unless someone suggests something that you like more.


Thrusting techniques are often paired thematically with lightning strikes. Visuals like lightning bolts in the backround are also very common for such techniques.

The sounds of Horses running is also often recounted as similar to Thunder.

Because of that I feel that a theme for the name revolving around thunder, lightning, storms, ect would be appropriate.

Steel Hurricane
Iron Storm
Steel Thunder/lightning
Piercing Gale
Dancing Lightning

Brainstorm! :)

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I prefer the Thunder references to the Lightning references. Steel Lightning (once I get past the way it makes me think of Blue Steel from Zoolander) or Dancing Lightning would be good names for a spear-based discipline but fail to capture the mounted aspect of the discipline.

....

I've got it guys. "Horse Powered Perforation". Or my original pitch "The Wet Sound of Bursting Meat and Crushed Eggs The Bodies of My Foes Make".

In all seriousness, I think Piercing Thunder is the legitimate leader in names. It doesn't evoke porn or comedy, and it implies all the elements of the actual discipline.

Thundering Bore? Drilling Gale? Impaling Storm? Gungnir's Crash?


Sound Skewer?

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Anguish wrote:
Sound Skewer?

*Shakes head slowly*


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Yeah... no on that one, Anguish.

Piercing Thunder is definitely getting the vote then. :P

-X


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ErrantX wrote:

Yeah... no on that one, Anguish.

Piercing Thunder is definitely getting the vote then. :P

-X

Yeah, yeah... but only because I haven't had enough to drink - I mean I haven't had the - hiccup - time to tell you my idea. My real idea. The one that... it's brilliant, you'll love it.

Sonic Skewered Driver.

There, see? Right. I think I need a bit of a sit-down. Is this lap taken?


Would it be possible to get an ETA on when the compiled version of Path of War 1 will be available?

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Namaru wrote:
Would it be possible to get an ETA on when the compiled version of Path of War 1 will be available?

I know people who bought the subscription here on Paizo already have it. You can still purchase it under the "Path of War Work in Progress" .pdf

It has everything that's been put out, the only changes will be minor grammar and formatting edits that were being reviewed prior to going to print.


Ssalarn wrote:
Namaru wrote:
Would it be possible to get an ETA on when the compiled version of Path of War 1 will be available?

I know people who bought the subscription here on Paizo already have it. You can still purchase it under the "Path of War Work in Progress" .pdf

It has everything that's been put out, the only changes will be minor grammar and formatting edits that were being reviewed prior to going to print.

I probably should have been more specific, but I was wondering when other sites such as DriveThruRPG would have it available since that was where I got my subscription.

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Ah. I know Jeremy indicated he was working on getting those updated...
I'm not sure what his availability for an update will be this week as he's at GenCon. My guess would be that if it hasn't happened yet, it won't until this weekend at the very earliest.


I bought mine through the DSP website and have been pretty jelly about how people on Paizo have been looking at the "near final release" document that I don't have access to :(

At least when it's complete I'll be able to enjoy a perfect copy!


I here you on that. So much awesome coming out this month with the ACG, Path of War 1, and the Akashic Mysteries Subscription. Just lots of new sweet options, gotta love it.


Looks like I am going to get to play that gestalt Warder/Psion in a PbP game. :)

Quick question, I dont have the book yet, did the Zweihander Sentinel change at all from its playtest version?

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

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I'm finally home from GenCon and getting caught up.

Once I get a few things handled, I'll be working on getting PoW final released.


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Jeremy Smith wrote:

I'm finally home from GenCon and getting caught up.

Once I get a few things handled, I'll be working on getting PoW final released.

In the words of Ash, Groovy!


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Awesome! Can't wait until I have the physical book in my hands.

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