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Unity, anyone? http://unity3d.comI believe Buri called it back in July... Fixed.
@Robb We are all concerned about griefing, it's been a hot topic for the past year. So we all respect your concerns. Ryan and Lee are working very hard at implementing mechanics and game designs to keep griefing at a minimum. Will it work? Who knows really but I think their on the right path... So yes please keep voicing your concerns. By the way I thought running for my life outside of Minoc while leveling up in UO was a lot of fun, got my heart pumpin! What was even more enjoyable was when I leveled my Legendary Tamer 6x Gm and got my revenge!
You don't have to PvP if you choose not to... So what does that leave us with? Are you afraid of being killed by other players? Are you afraid of being killed by npc's monsters? The only time I have ever seen anyone in this community say "this is not the game for you" is about PvP. PvP is very much a part of PFO and will remain so.
You don't have to PvP if you choose not to... So what does that leave us with? Are you afraid of being killed by other players? Are you afraid of being killed by npc's monsters?Did I say a single word about PVP in my post? That was your underlining meaning yes. Atleast that's how I read it. If I was mistaken then I apologize.
You don't have to PvP if you choose not to... So what does that leave us with? Are you afraid of being killed by other players? Are you afraid of being killed by npc's? In PFO you can play anyway you choose... Just expect to die a lot and often. After you except death, life is more enjoyable.
Sorry Onishi but I disagree... 1. This is a Sanbox, no LFG Themepark WOW bank sitting waiting for pugs.
Both of which will use ventrilo and will not be pugs. 3. When did installing ventrilo or Teamspeak become difficult? 4. In Game voice chat is rarely used, mostly from solo players and has nothing to do with organized game play. 5. Waste of resources and money! I rather have housing... 6. Just my opinion...
I shutter at the thought of a small female halfling with the voice of a 40 year old dude.It's fully voiced by the players. ^This Please no in-game voices chat!!!!!!!!!! Talk about immersion killer...
what about rp racial slurs like for rock giants hating to be called block heads or elves to be caled knife ears . yes these are from other games but i'm just using them for a point. bluntly if we wanted to play a racialy or class intolerent character would it be allowed as long as it stays friendly and in game rp? I ask this because i am prone to call dwarf barbarians several bad titles refering to areas of hygene, excessive hair, and drinking preferences. The Golden Rule: Just don't be a jerk.
I was so happy when I read that interview ( still trying to locate it, Zam I think...) Not because its EQnext, but rather for the first time a big publisher publicly announced the sandbox revolution. I've never been a big fan of EQ (I was one of the loyal UO players refusing to leave) but I wish them the best of luck. Now we all know that Smedley just announced this to see what reaction he gets, test the waters a bit, but I think it's genuine. He's a longtime EVE player so I know he enjoys freedom in his games, and I hope that's what he plans on doing with EQ Next! The sandbox revolution is finally here and I couldn't be more happier!!! Ryan your going to have to step up your game now and make player housing (:
EverquestNext is going to be a sandbox and modeled after EVE. Smedley just announced it and in his interview it sound like he is quoting Ryan. Coincidence? I think not... Go read his interview about wanting to start small and grow like EVE did, Kronos for game time like plex, players being the content etc etc... I think Smedley might be Blaringer!?
Old news... Same song and dance whenever someone wants to bash Ryan. Your a little late to the party as this topic has been brought up many times here on the forums. I'm sure it won't be the last...
I still interact with people in DDO, the only MMO I play (I tried WoW once but didn't like it), but not to the extent where I have to join a Guild to have a happy gaming experience. Because you did say "I think the biggest difference between theme park PvP and sandbox PvP is the need, in the sandbox to be a part of an organized force". Why should I need to be a part of anything if all I wanna do is meet up with a couple of friends and go on a Quest?Making it almost necessary to join an Organisation/Guild/Whatever it's being calledTo the extent that the game has as a primary design principle "Maximizing human interaction", this is true. Im sure you can... You won't have to play transporter, you won't have to play territory control fighter, you don't have to do anything that's not fun for you! Sandbox will allow you to play and be anything you want, your imagination will be the only thing stopping you. Just because a lot of us enjoy PvP doesn't mean you have to, sure you might get killed by a player for one reason or another just like you will be killed by a Abyssal Paragon or Gold Dragon. You will find in true sandbox games (if designed properly) you can play the way you want. I'm sure Ryan will design a truely robust and exciting PvE experience for you, he understands how important PvE is for everyone. I'm a true fan of PvP for a purpose and I'm also just as much a fan of PvE. I'm totally convinced that Ryan and his team at Goblinworks will provide a very rich and in depth PvE game. Once you embrace death, life gets better!
Ryan has mentioned Goblinworks is not actively pursueing that kind of investor. I think their looking for investors not publishers!? Publishers are really only good for one thing and thats Marketing. I dont think Ryan needs any help in that regard(:
I would like to see the ability for players to get away. Cool sounds like Ryan is open to the cat and mouse mechanic! I agree on the ambush, if you get the jump on your pray they should have to fight for their survival. But say your out killing mobs and you see a known PK'er, you should be able to get the jump on him by evading PvP. I personally enjoy PvP and welcome it with open arms, but i have also experienced the other side of the fence.
I would like to see the ability for players to get away. In Ultima Online I spent the first 6 months running my little butt off from RED's. At that point in the game I wasn't ready to PvP, I didn't understand combat well enough to ever win so I chose to run. I became very good at running away and avoiding PK's (player killers), i would only die maybe 50% of the time which in some regards balanced the playing field. The excitement of the cat and mouse was a lot of fun,sometimes I got away and sometimes I would take a deadly wrong turn. I would like to see this in PFO, I would like to see a chance for non PvPers to get away, if they don't want to engage in PvP these players should have at least a 50/50 chance to escape. The cat and mouse mechanic?
PvP is a lot of fun if you don't mind dieing. I enjoy being hunted! I like the element of surprise! I like a challenge! I like to win! I even like to lose! I like the unknown! If you have to think, your learning something! I like losing, it makes winning even better! I like to play with other people! I like different personalities! I like conflict! I like to work things out! I like to think! I like to get away! I like to get caught! I like to just barely make it! I like to live! I like to die! I would like to live and die in the River Kingdoms!
It seems like a lot of people are concerned about the PvP aspect of PFO, I understand their concerns but I think it's more or less a case of not having enough experience playing in that kind of environment. PvP in PFO will most likely not be Darkfall or Mortal, let me explain. 1. PFO is not full loot, you only drop a portion of what's in you bag. No armor drop, no weapon drops. In Darkfall and Mortal as full loot systems, you as a player gain everything you need to play the game from full loot drops, in PFO item drops from PvP will be minimal at best. 2. In Darkfall and Mortal there is litteraly no PvE to speak of, all there is for combat is PvP. Ryan has made it very clear that PvE in PFO will be very robust and rewarding. You will gain more rewards and riches through PvE. Players tend to follow the path of least resistance and fortune. 3. In Darkfall and Mortal there are no safe zones other then in a few cities, and even in the cities you can be killed out side the gates, this leads to griefers concentrating at the front gates for the easy kill. In PFO the safe zones are going to be much larger, maybe 4-10 hexes in size, so the griefers will have to venture further out into hostile territory to get a kill. And we all no griefers don't enjoy risk, they want easy kills and don't enjoy being challenge by equal opponents. 4. Convenience! If you spend 30 minutes to travel out into the wilderness to hunt mobs or gather resources, I will bet that before you attack another player you will consider the fact that if you lose your going to have a long ride back. In PFO travel will be a huge determining factor for many players. 5. The size of the world! In Ultima Online the world is so large that you could spend hours hunting by yourself without ever running into another player, and in most cases that other player is doing something other then trying to kill you. Once again the majority of gankers in UO would camp out side of cities or teleportation stones, looking for the easy kill.
6. Give players more rewarding features other then PvP and you will see a more balanced game. If PvE is more rewarding then PvP, players will do what's more rewarding for them. If PFO provides its players with a rewarding and robust PvE and non combat experience we will have a great game.
Off topic sorry: Half the cost, half the time- Most indie sandbox mmo's take 4 to 6 years and 10-40 million.
First 2yrs developing the alpha client with cost of 2.5 mill a year. Third year beta with payed testers, 4.5k every month for 6 months, open free to play12k players every month for 6 months. Total players is 100k first year. 6 months x 4.5k subs = 27,000
27,000 subs at $15 month = 3.797 million
Total revenue third year beta = 5.057 million So it cost 5 mill to make the game in two years, slow release the third year that generates 5 mill revenue. The third year beta cost 2.5m in development leaving 2.5m in revenue payed back to investors, buy the forth year all 5m is payed back to investors with a 2.5m profit. In three years 50% investment money payed back and a profit of 2.5m! Not bad for an indie sandbox game!!
Dwarf - Druid - Mystic Spell Caster - Guardian of the Forest, Seeker of Truth, Slayer of Pirates. When I'm not out roaming the forest looking for scum pirates to burn you will probably find me killing off invaders while my company harvests resources. After making a fresh batch of Ale I find it impossible to resist the frothy goodness, in this case you will most likely find me along the shores of the Sellen River building watercraft, and of course killing more pirates! |
