Pathfinder Chronicles: Classic Monsters Revisited (OGL)

Can anyone share with me the full list of monsters that are included in this book?

Thanks

Can anyone share with me the full list of monsters that are included in this book?

Bugbears, Gnolls, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Lizardfolk, Minotaurs, Ogres, Orcs and Trolls.

Oh my...

No PDF version available yet ?
Is it scheduled for later ?

Yes, PLEASE get the .pdf out sooner. This request goes for a lot of other products, too. I consolodate a lot of stuff to an online collection, so many print versions aren't that much fun for me. This, as a .pdf...AWESOME!

No PDF version available yet ?

Is it scheduled for later ?

PDF is available at about the same time that the print version is available in stores, usually about a week or two after it ships to subscribers.

This is a great read! I loved the new take on just about all the monsters included and can practically feel them fitting right in the Golarion that we've already been exposed to in the last nine months. I can't wait to see where it goes from here. Will there be future versions like this for other classic monsters?

Buy enough copies of this one and there will be. :)

Buy enough copies of this one and there will be. :)

You're talking to a SUPERscriber here! A man can only buy so much. But I will pimp it to all my friends and gaming compatriots.

I finished reading this last night - what a great book! Lots of great Golarion-monster-flavor and plenty of interesting tid bits to create unique and memorable encounters and NPC's. The crunch that is included is "just the right amount", IMO: a stat block for each creature and something special for each one (a couple feats, a variant statblock, a unique weapon, etc.) Great job, Paizo.

Just one question... what's a crocottan, referenced in the gnoll chapter?

Wait- The .pdf is $17.99, too. Am I reading it correctly that the .pdf is the same price as the print edition? I would be surprised, from past purchases where .pdfs were cheaper than the printed copy. Any help?

Unless I am mistaken Classic Monsters Revisited (both print and pdf) contains no open content, and does in fact attempt to close content that was previously open as part of the SRD.

Except for the material designated as Product Identity (see above), the Appendix of this Paizo Publishing game product is Open Game Content, as defined in the Open Gaming License...

This refers to an appendix as the only part of Classic Monsters Revisited (CMR) which contains open content. Unfortunately CMR does not contain an appendix.

I am sure that this is accidental, as the declaration quoted above is identical to the one in Guide to Korvosa (which does contain an appendix) - I suspect that the same layout template is being used for the Pathfinder Chronicles products, and changes to the declaration where missed before publication.

Wait- The .pdf is $17.99, too. Am I reading it correctly that the .pdf is the same price as the print edition? I would be surprised, from past purchases where .pdfs were cheaper than the printed copy. Any help?

D'oh! It's $12.99. Fixed. Thanks!

I ordered this product a couple of weeks ago through my hobby store. When I went to pick it up this week, he told me it was canceled and wouldn't be available for order until 4/30. What gives?

I ordered this product a couple of weeks ago through my hobby store. When I went to pick it up this week, he told me it was canceled and wouldn't be available for order until 4/30. What gives?

The official retail release date for this product is indeed April 30. (The retail release date is usually set around two weeks after we ship it from our warehouse because it takes a little while to get from us to our distributors and then from our distributors to your retailer.)

joela wrote:

I ordered this product a couple of weeks ago through my hobby store. When I went to pick it up this week, he told me it was canceled and wouldn't be available for order until 4/30. What gives?

The official retail release date for this product is indeed April 30. (The retail release date is usually set around two weeks after we ship it from our warehouse because it takes a little while to get from us to our distributors and then from our distributors to your retailer.)

That's good to know. I'll schedule my orders in a similar fashion. Thanks!

Is this product related in any way to the pathfinder alpha RPG? Is this a monster manual equivalent, or no?

Is this product related in any way to the pathfinder alpha RPG? Is this a monster manual equivalent, or no?

No. This is a fluff book about a few classic monsters like goblins, trolls, orcs, etc. We likely won't see a monster manual for Pathfinder until the final version comes out.

I think a friend of mine gave this book the best compliment I can imagine the other day. We've both even following the saga of 4E and after reading Classic Monsters Revisited for ten minutes he turned to me and said "Wow, it's like I'm reading proper D&D again."

So thank you, Paizo, for giving us Proper D&D once again.

Yeah, it´s like the good ol´times are back. It´s a really endearing book. Makes me remenber old times like Mystara where humanoids had a life.

The book refers a lot about Shamans and Witch Doctors. There will be new classes or both are others names for adepts ? Because i really guess they aren´t Spirit Shaman or Warlocks.

And some monsters like Kobold and Bugbears really deserved some special upgrade levels like Kobold Paragon or Bugbear Paragon to make for unique villains without devolve to standards class powers.

I couldn't have run the opening of Burnt Offerings without this gem, to drive home the hilarous scenes my gaming group will reminiscence for quite some time. And I expect to turn to those 6 pages on goblins many more times.

Guess the same applies to running "Crown of the Kobold King" and its predecessor and upcoming sequel, if you look at the 6 pages on kobolds in this book.

And that's my biggest gripe with this product: the product policy behind it. It wouldn't hurt Paizo adventures to come stocked with those respective 6 pages or even a strongly boiled down version thereof. In the case at hand, why not spend one page in Runelords 1 on Goblin metabolism (which really EXPLAINS their food distractions during combat) and Goblin fears? Just tacked onto James Jacob's Ten Funny Facts about goblins? It's little, and it makes a VAST difference.

So I'm rather ambiguous about this product. As to content: 5 stars - definite recommendation. Product policy: 1 star.

That said, I'm not sure my criticism is valid as regards the current product line. I'm getting behind with my DMing, but it seems Crimson Throne instalments don't require you to buy extra books to play them to the hilt.

Yeah, it´s like the good ol´times are back. It´s a really endearing book. Makes me remenber old times like Mystara where humanoids had a life.

The book refers a lot about Shamans and Witch Doctors. There will be new classes or both are others names for adepts ? Because i really guess they aren´t Spirit Shaman or Warlocks.

I can't speak for the other contributors, but when I referred to shamans and witchdoctors I was harkening back to something along the lines of the old 1e DMG where it gave these distinctions to humanoid spellcasters: shamans basically as clerics (or perhaps 3.5 adepts) and witchdoctors as a sort of wizard/cleric combo. The good ol' times are back indeed (which is exactly what I was shooting for, so I'm glad you thought so). :-)

I think a friend of mine gave this book the best compliment I can imagine the other day. We've both even following the saga of 4E and after reading Classic Monsters Revisited for ten minutes he turned to me and said "Wow, it's like I'm reading proper D&D again."

So thank you, Paizo, for giving us Proper D&D once again.

Maybe the best compliment ever given to an RPG product...

Any plans to reprint this?

Any plans to reprint this?

Yep... but it will probably take a few months....

Andre Caceres wrote:

Any plans to reprint this?

Yep... but it will probably take a few months....

You know Vic, if I may call you that, you are so fast its scary with responses.

Moreover, go home some time, pop a beer and relax, just a little. Jeez.

But thanks just wanted to know.

I saw my first post-Dungeon, Dragon magazine Paizo product on the RPG shelves today at B&N. There, tucked between the typical WotC D&D books (4E AND 3.x edition) and WW, was Classic Monsters Revisited.

Coolio.

Wouah the art, man! It's greaaat!! And aside from the gnolls entry, the descriptions are awesome. I just don't understand why these "classic monsters" are not more put to use in monthly pathfinder adventure path & modules (aside from gobs). When are we getting orcs for Gary's sake?

Reprint of print edition soon?

Wouah the art, man! It's greaaat!! And aside from the gnolls entry, the descriptions are awesome. I just don't understand why these "classic monsters" are not more put to use in monthly pathfinder adventure path & modules (aside from gobs). When are we getting orcs for Gary's sake?

Gnolls seem to be big for AP4. Will we be seeing gnollish feats from this work in that work? Work it baby!

Reprint of print edition soon?

We've had to prioritize our reprints lately, and Classic Monsters isn't quite ready to go into the queue yet. We're hoping to work it in so that it arrives around the same time that Dragons Revisited is out.... so maybe February, plus or minus.

*Sniff, sniff*

I love you guys.

*Sniff, sniff*

I love you guys.

Finally read it Kruelaid ?

: )

If you can not wait for a reprint I have found this item for sale in the UK. This store has a few that are very cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:I T&item=390022156285

I just ordered one from Amazon.com for about $12.00. I don't remember how many they had left, but you might try there. They are showing they have 35 used copies for around $10.

As the Old Used Car Salesman used to say, "Hurry and get them while they last".

Wow, it appears I really dropped the ball on this one. Can someone tell me the release date for PC: Classic Monsters Revisited? I thought that I got in on the Chronicles subscription on the ground floor but I somehow missed this one it seems. Of course I have been out of touch off and on for years now so this is hardly a surprise. Anyway, I will order it as soon as I can be sure that I don't already own it.

Tam

If you by chance are wondering how I can be uncertain if I own it or not, the physical copies go to my home in the US, I haven't actually seen or held any of them.

Wow, it appears I really dropped the ball on this one. Can someone tell me the release date for PC: Classic Monsters Revisited? I thought that I got in on the Chronicles subscription on the ground floor but I somehow missed this one it seems. Of course I have been out of touch off and on for years now so this is hardly a surprise. Anyway, I will order it as soon as I can be sure that I don't already own it.

Tam

If you by chance are wondering how I can be uncertain if I own it or not, the physical copies go to my home in the US, I haven't actually seen or held any of them.

If you have a subscription and it was sent to you as part of a subscription it will show up in your my downloads page.

It came out in April last year.

Roger. I wonder if there is anyway I can tell when my Chronicles sub started.

Just wandering aimlessly at this point, I will no doubt order it from amazon soon.

Tam

Roger. I wonder if there is anyway I can tell when my Chronicles sub started.

You can work it out by looking at your order history.

You subscribed after the Rise of the Runelords Item Cards, the Rise of the Runelords Map Folio, the Guide to Korvosa, and Classic Monsters Revisited had been released.

Is there any hope of getting another print run of this and getting it in stock so I could obtain it?

Is there any hope of getting another print run of this and getting it in stock so I could obtain it?

Not within the next several months. We're reserving our resources for printing the Pathfinder RPG this summer. I'd really like to get it back on the press shortly after that, though...

Sounds fair. I'll just have to wait for it to get another run then.

Ankounite wrote:

Is there any hope of getting another print run of this and getting it in stock so I could obtain it?

Not within the next several months. We're reserving our resources for printing the Pathfinder RPG this summer. I'd really like to get it back on the press shortly after that, though...

I'd also like to get a print copy of this, what's the estimated date that this will see print again?

Pity you can't pre-order a reprint. Or pre-order PDFs for that matter. (PFRPG Bestiary and Core Rulebook? I'm looking at you.)

Pity you can't pre-order a reprint.

When it gets to the point that we actually have a schedule for reprinting, we'll probably flip the switch to allow you to backorder it.

Or pre-order PDFs for that matter. (PFRPG Bestiary and Core Rulebook? I'm looking at you.)

That's trickier. Our entire PDF ordering process is built around the notion that they're always available immediately, and changing it would be very, very complicated. On the other hand, since they're PDFs, you don't need to worry about them selling out before you get a chance to order your copy!

I bought the hardcopy of Classic Monsters Revisited and the PDF separately. All the other PDFs of Pathfinder Chronicles books in my downloads have a whole-book PDF and a by-chapter PDF but this one I only got a whole-book PDF. Are the by-chapter PDFs only available as part of subscriptions, or should I have one available in my downloads, or was a by-chapter PDF not available for this book?

It's been awhile since I bought the PDF, I've just been putting off asking about it.

I bought the hardcopy of Classic Monsters Revisited and the PDF separately. All the other PDFs of Pathfinder Chronicles books in my downloads have a whole-book PDF and a by-chapter PDF but this one I only got a whole-book PDF. Are the by-chapter PDFs only available as part of subscriptions, or should I have one available in my downloads, or was a by-chapter PDF not available for this book?

It's been awhile since I bought the PDF, I've just been putting off asking about it.

We didn't start doing the by-chapter PDFs on the Chronicles line until the Campaign Setting came out, I believe.

Wolf Munroe wrote:

I bought the hardcopy of Classic Monsters Revisited and the PDF separately. All the other PDFs of Pathfinder Chronicles books in my downloads have a whole-book PDF and a by-chapter PDF but this one I only got a whole-book PDF. Are the by-chapter PDFs only available as part of subscriptions, or should I have one available in my downloads, or was a by-chapter PDF not available for this book?

It's been awhile since I bought the PDF, I've just been putting off asking about it.

We didn't start doing the by-chapter PDFs on the Chronicles line until the Campaign Setting came out, I believe.

Alright, thanks. That was the first book I got in my Chronicles subscription. I just wasn't sure if I was missing something or not.

We've recovered a few cases of this long-sold-out book from one of our distributors. Grab 'em quickly, 'cause they probably won't last long!

surely there is the demand to keep this in print?