Krome |
Paizo Blog wrote:3679 .... These monsters remain a threat long after the death of Burlor beneath the hooves of more than 25 tribes of centaurs' hooves.Should the last sentence end at "centaurs?"
no. apparently these are a weird NEW kind of centaurs. I can't wait to see pictures of them. Apparently their hooves HAVE hooves! I wonder if their tails have tales? lol
F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |
Mosaic |
All this talk of "over the icecap" really makes me want to see a polar projection map. That whole Great Arc thing. I get it, but it's hard to actually wrap my head around it being shorter to go up and over than just sideways.
Asgetrion |
Huh...I just realized that it kinda reminds me a bit of Cormyr in the Forgotten Realms. This is not a bad thing. :)
It reminds me of all the great work Steven (plus Eric Boyd and George Krashos) did for FR; they practically reworked the whole disparate mess of historical references into a consistent timeline. And my jaw dropped when I read the books written by Steven (some of which were co-authored with other great designers, such as Paizo's own SKR). It's simply amazing stuff. I'm so glad that Steven is now doing freelance work for Paizo! :)
Eric is apparently quite busy (at least that's what I've heard?), but I know George Krashos is now becoming interested in Golarion. :)
Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
All this talk of "over the icecap" really makes me want to see a polar projection map.
You, sir, need to lobby for a certain Jade Regent AP that's been bandied about by the Paizo staffers at a couple of conventions now. It keeps getting pushed back because of the need for further definition around the rules for an Asian-themed setting, but they also shared that crossing the polar icecap would be part of that campaign. :-)
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Lilith wrote:Huh...I just realized that it kinda reminds me a bit of Cormyr in the Forgotten Realms. This is not a bad thing. :)It reminds me of all the great work Steven (plus Eric Boyd and George Krashos) did for FR; they practically reworked the whole disparate mess of historical references into a consistent timeline. And my jaw dropped when I read the books written by Steven (some of which were co-authored with other great designers, such as Paizo's own SKR). It's simply amazing stuff. I'm so glad that Steven is now doing freelance work for Paizo! :)
Eric is apparently quite busy (at least that's what I've heard?), but I know George Krashos is now becoming interested in Golarion. :)
If George Krashos and Charles Evans meet in person, will the world end in a giant neutron star implosion from the sheer mass of completist fantasy world history? :)
Asgetrion |
Asgetrion wrote:If George Krashos and Charles Evans meet in person, will the world end in a giant neutron star implosion from the sheer mass of completist fantasy world history? :)Lilith wrote:Huh...I just realized that it kinda reminds me a bit of Cormyr in the Forgotten Realms. This is not a bad thing. :)It reminds me of all the great work Steven (plus Eric Boyd and George Krashos) did for FR; they practically reworked the whole disparate mess of historical references into a consistent timeline. And my jaw dropped when I read the books written by Steven (some of which were co-authored with other great designers, such as Paizo's own SKR). It's simply amazing stuff. I'm so glad that Steven is now doing freelance work for Paizo! :)
Eric is apparently quite busy (at least that's what I've heard?), but I know George Krashos is now becoming interested in Golarion. :)
It might... but wouldn't the risk be worth it? ;)
Arnwyn |
Just curious - how does Iobaria and its gazetteer relate to the Kingmaker AP? (Include spoilers if necessary.) Thanks!
but they also shared that crossing the polar icecap would be part of that campaign.
That would suck. If the Jade Regent AP does come to fruition (which would be great), I would hope that it would be more focused and just 'get on with it'. (Just like I'm glad that they scrapped the idea of the LoF AP starting in Osirion, which would have been tremendously wasteful. No extraneous travel, please... like I said - just get on with it.)
Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
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Just curious - how does Iobaria and its gazetteer relate to the Kingmaker AP? (Include spoilers if necessary.) Thanks!
Well...
NSpicer wrote:...but they also shared that crossing the polar icecap would be part of that campaign.That would suck. If the Jade Regent AP does come to fruition (which would be great), I would hope that it would be more focused and just 'get on with it'. (Just like I'm glad that they scrapped the idea of the LoF AP starting in Osirion, which would have been tremendously wasteful. No extraneous travel, please... like I said - just get on with it.)
From what James shared about the Jade Regent AP's possibilities, journeying over the polar icecap is a somewhat necessary component of the storyline, because...
Just my two-cents,
--Neil
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Arnwyn wrote:Just curious - how does Iobaria and its gazetteer relate to the Kingmaker AP? (Include spoilers if necessary.) Thanks!Well...
** spoiler omitted **Arnwyn wrote:NSpicer wrote:...but they also shared that crossing the polar icecap would be part of that campaign.That would suck. If the Jade Regent AP does come to fruition (which would be great), I would hope that it would be more focused and just 'get on with it'. (Just like I'm glad that they scrapped the idea of the LoF AP starting in Osirion, which would have been tremendously wasteful. No extraneous travel, please... like I said - just get on with it.)From what James shared about the Jade Regent AP's possibilities, journeying over the polar icecap is a somewhat necessary component of the storyline, because...
** spoiler omitted **
Just my two-cents,
--Neil
I think it's a cool element of an AP when there is some travel involved. You have something like Council of Thieves where they pretty much stay in one spot, but you also have something like Serpent's Skull, where the advance blurbs for the mods seem to suggest there's a journey to or through Sargava and the Mwangi before you get to the "final adventure area" in some kind of lost city and such once you get there.
I think you would just have to think about the kind of Jade Regent idea that Neil suggested that the journey *IS* the AP. The AP isn't a full-on, end-to-end Asiatic AP. It's an AP that starts in Avistan and ends on the other side of the world, with a plotline that spans stuff on both ends. YMMV, but I think it sounds cool and look forward to whenever it moves back to the front burner.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
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That would suck. If the Jade Regent AP does come to fruition (which would be great), I would hope that it would be more focused and just 'get on with it'. (Just like I'm glad that they scrapped the idea of the LoF AP starting in Osirion, which would have been tremendously wasteful. No extraneous travel, please... like I said - just get on with it.)
One of the goals of the Jade Regent Adventure Path, though, is to introduce Tian Xia in an organic method. Another goal is to create an epic journey type adventure path. Both are things we haven't yet done, and both are things I'm very eager to try out.
I've put more thought into the Jade Regent Adventure Path at this point than ANY other Adventure Path we've done. I certainly HOPE it won't suck. AKA: If I do my job right, the journey to Tian Xia element in the AP won't be extraneous travel. It'll be part of the entire point of the AP.
Kind of like all that "extraneous travel" in Lord of the Rings, I guess.
Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
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Kind of like all that "extraneous travel" in Lord of the Rings, I guess.
Yeah. That was totally boring stuff. They should have jumped straight to what happened in Mordor and Minas Tirith, right? ;-D
Honestly, I'm really psyched to see Jade Regent take flight. For those who don't know, my wife is Asian and so the variety and complexity of all those cultures (from Korean to Japanese to Chinese to Southeast Asia and Pan-Asia) are just really fascinating to me. Layer in an opportunity to go polar icecap exploring to get to Tian Xia...and I'm sold!
Arnwyn |
YMMV,
It does.
But if the journey is the AP (as opposed to going to where the main point of the AP takes place), then I can see its value and how that might be enjoyed. (*roll eyes* at the 'extraneous travel' in LotR)
(Though I, personally, would likely drop my subscription if/when such an AP is released. While I don't mind a bit of travel in a game, continent-wide travel for me is out. And to NSpicer... I'm not much of a "have faith" kind of guy, sorry.)
uriel222 |
Arnwyn wrote:That would suck...One of the goals of the Jade Regent Adventure Path, though, is to introduce Tian Xia in an organic method. Another goal is to create an epic journey type adventure path. Both are things we haven't yet done, and both are things I'm very eager to try out.
I've put more thought into the Jade Regent Adventure Path at this point than ANY other Adventure Path we've done. I certainly HOPE it won't suck. AKA: If I do my job right, the journey to Tian Xia element in the AP won't be extraneous travel. It'll be part of the entire point of the AP.
Really? Truly? There may be a Picaresque AP? Oh Joy! Oh rapture unforetold!
Just when I was thinking you couldn't ever top Kingmaker for an AP setting... This sounds simply awesome.
/gushing
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Jason Nelson wrote:YMMV,It does.
But if the journey is the AP (as opposed to going to where the main point of the AP takes place), then I can see its value and how that might be enjoyed. (*roll eyes* at the 'extraneous travel' in LotR)
(Though I, personally, would likely drop my subscription if/when such an AP is released. While I don't mind a bit of travel in a game, continent-wide travel for me is out. And to NSpicer... I'm not much of a "have faith" kind of guy, sorry.)
Hey, everybody likes what they like. I'd hardly recommend for someone to spend $120 plus shipping (less whatever discount you get) for a set of products you don't like. Heaven knows there are plenty of gaming books I haven't bought, some not interested and some just didn't have time for.
If I had been a regular subscriber to Paizo APs from day one, I don't think I'd have been super-excited about, say, Second Darkness or Council of Thieves or the squickier parts of Rise of the Runelords - those AP ideas just didn't excite me as much as CotCT, LoF, Kingmaker, and what I've seen so far about Serpent's Skull and the little teases about Jade Regent do.
The good thing is, of course, if an AP that is absolutely not your cup of tea comes along, you still have a regular success of Gamemastery adventures to tide you over for six months (or just keep playing through the backlog of old adventures you have) until the next AP idea comes along, which might suit your tastes to a T.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Jason Nelson wrote:YMMV,It does.
But if the journey is the AP (as opposed to going to where the main point of the AP takes place), then I can see its value and how that might be enjoyed. (*roll eyes* at the 'extraneous travel' in LotR)
(Though I, personally, would likely drop my subscription if/when such an AP is released. While I don't mind a bit of travel in a game, continent-wide travel for me is out. And to NSpicer... I'm not much of a "have faith" kind of guy, sorry.)
No need to be sorry. We lose subscribers every time we start a new Adventure Path. The trick is to get enough new subscribers with each one that we either stay stable or grow the total. So far, we must be doing something right because we've yet to see those numbers significantly shrink.
But in any event, not every AP will be to the taste for every GM or player. Which is why half of every volume contains support material that ANYone can use for ANY game, or simply just for the pleasure of reading.
Elorebaen |
Arnwyn wrote:That would suck. If the Jade Regent AP does come to fruition (which would be great), I would hope that it would be more focused and just 'get on with it'. (Just like I'm glad that they scrapped the idea of the LoF AP starting in Osirion, which would have been tremendously wasteful. No extraneous travel, please... like I said - just get on with it.)One of the goals of the Jade Regent Adventure Path, though, is to introduce Tian Xia in an organic method. Another goal is to create an epic journey type adventure path. Both are things we haven't yet done, and both are things I'm very eager to try out.
I've put more thought into the Jade Regent Adventure Path at this point than ANY other Adventure Path we've done. I certainly HOPE it won't suck. AKA: If I do my job right, the journey to Tian Xia element in the AP won't be extraneous travel. It'll be part of the entire point of the AP.
Kind of like all that "extraneous travel" in Lord of the Rings, I guess.
I am loving this premise already!!! I am all about the journey.
Turin the Mad |
Speaking of Marco Polo ... that's a lot of what "the Tien AP" reminds me of, the years-long journey spanning thousands of miles, essentially discovering / establishing / carving out "the Ice Road".
Let us hope Emperor Ch'in or a certain Khan do not await Our Heroes on the other side of the trip ... they may not return to warn Avistan of what is marching back across ... ^_^
Konstantin Dika |
Since we touched on the Polar Ice Cap, could Paizo (finally) publish some data (a map would be great) about the climate zones on Golarion. Hell, if you could just point out the major parallels (circles of latitude) I'd be a happy camper. Why? So I can use AD&D 1st edition Wilderness Survival Guide weather tables to add some more realism to my Kingmaker campaigns. I've been winging it, but why when all I need are (two) major parallels on Golarion. and I'll figure out the rest.
Even though a comprehensive Golarion Wilderness Guide (with detailed weather and similar tables and explanations) would be a welcome product (I'd pay up to a 100$ for it - if it had the level of detail presented in the old WSG, or more).
As far as a ...ummm... journey... umm ... a quest ... over the Polar Ice Cap is concerned, I'm all in (then again I see no reason so far to stop my subscriptions to Paizo products even though I haven't use most. Yet.).
Regards,
Kosta
Turin the Mad |
Because timelines are a "thing" of mine and I'm new to Golarion - waiting for the updated campaign book to come out next year - do the regional books or any other products in the range contain timelines?
-- George Krashos
P.S. Who is Charles Evans?
It would seem the good (Sir) Charles has garnered some fame / infamy for meticulously attempting to clarify all sorts of goodies in Golarion. :) (Sir) Charles loves his Golarion!
Erik Freund RPG Superstar 2011 Top 16 |
Because timelines are a "thing" of mine and I'm new to Golarion - waiting for the updated campaign book to come out next year - do the regional books or any other products in the range contain timelines?
-- George Krashos
P.S. Who is Charles Evans?
The River Kingdoms book (which is what's relevant to Kingmaker) contains a timeline in the back.
The Thing from Beyond the Edge |
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I was hoping for a little help matching up map points. I might have read it somewhere and missed it in the jumble of viewings.
Anyway, in KM 31 it is stated that to the east of the Kamelands lie the Tors of Levenies and then to the east of the Tors lie the ragged steppes of the Dunsward and that this region known as the Nomen Heights is detailed in KM 33.
But, I am not sure how to line up the map in 33 with the map of Iobaria. Are the Nomen Heights the Hills of Nomen? Or, are the Heights west of the Hills of Nomen?
My guess is that the very southern portion of the Hills of Nomen are maybe 100 miles east of the Nomen Heights, but I am guessing.
gang |
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But, I am not sure how to line up the map in 33 with the map of Iobaria. Are the Nomen Heights the Hills of Nomen? Or, are the Heights west of the Hills of Nomen?
I'm sure James Jacobs or one of those other guys saying that the Tors of the Levenies join up with the southernmost Hills of Nomen, so they're a sort of west-facing hook.
The Thing from Beyond the Edge |
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:I'm sure James Jacobs or one of those other guys saying that the Tors of the Levenies join up with the southernmost Hills of Nomen, so they're a sort of west-facing hook.
But, I am not sure how to line up the map in 33 with the map of Iobaria. Are the Nomen Heights the Hills of Nomen? Or, are the Heights west of the Hills of Nomen?
Thanks