No-Prep Character: Lisavet

On sidenote of something I've realized:

I always imagine book characters to look more mundane and less idealized unless book focuses on describing characters as standing out in such way.

Like Eleukas definitely has much better looking hair than I would have imagined. I certainly imagined Lisavet would be wearing more priestly or bookish attire.

Reminds me of how I somehow got image of Haplo from Death Gate Cycle looking kinda like Vulture from 90s spiderman: Bald and prominent nose. I have no idea why that was image I got in my head since in all art of the character he does apparently have hair so presumably his hair was mentioned somewhere in seven books xD

Nice! I love these blogs! Can't wait to see the other characters. :3

Those are really cool and useful, but I'd love to see more spread over levels. Like Lisavet at level 2, 6 and 12 for example.

Those are really cool and useful, but I'd love to see more spread over levels. Like Lisavet at level 2, 6 and 12 for example.

Maybe when she gets more experience and reached those levels we can revisit this. Right now she's really just had the one adventure!

These pre-made NPCs and quick no-prep encounters just thrown up here for free on the blog are so cool. I'm liking them a lot.

Reminds me of how I somehow got image of Haplo from Death Gate Cycle looking kinda like Vulture from 90s spiderman: Bald and prominent nose.

I started trying to read those when they came out. I'd read the Dragonlance trilogies. Darksword. Rose of the Prophet. And loved every page. Then I started Death Gate and I just don't know what happened. I don't even remember anything about it except there were floating islands or something? Did I miss out?

These pre-made NPCs and quick no-prep encounters just thrown up here for free on the blog are so cool. I'm liking them a lot.

CorvusMask wrote:

Reminds me of how I somehow got image of Haplo from Death Gate Cycle looking kinda like Vulture from 90s spiderman: Bald and prominent nose.

I started trying to read those when they came out. I'd read the Dragonlance trilogies. Darksword. Rose of the Prophet. And loved every page. Then I started Death Gate and I just don't know what happened. I don't even remember anything about it except there were floating islands or something? Did I miss out?

Ye ask person with crappy memory xD

Maybe I'll have to try reading them again.
Seems there might be a break after The Dresden Files #16 & 17 came out within a few months of each other.

Whenever I see a character stat block like this I try to build the character in Herolab Online. With Lisavet, I figure there's some authorial fiat going on, or something's missing from the stat block, or I'm just missing something in her description. This is what I came up with:

Lisavet
Human cleric 2
NG, Medium, Human, Humanoid
Perception +8
Languages Common, Dwarven, Elven, Halfling, Kelish
Skills Arcana +7, Diplomacy +5, Medicine +8, Nature +8 (+10 to your check to Treat Wounds, subject to the GM’s determination.), Occultism +7, Religion +8, Scribing Lore +7, Society +7, Survival +8
Str 10 (+0), Dex 12 (+1), Con 10 (+0), Int 16 (+3), Wis 18 (+4), Cha 12 (+1)
Other Items studded leather, staff, minor healing potions (3), wooden religious symbol, purse (11 gp; 9 sp)
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AC 13; Fort +4; Ref +5; Will +10
HP 24 Focus Points 1 Hero Points 1
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Speed 25 feet
Melee [1] staff +4 (two-hand (1d8)), Damage 1d4 B
Divine Cleric Spells DC 18, attack +8; 1st bless, burning hands, sanctuary Cantrips (1st) detect magic, divine lance, light, shield, stabilize
Focus Spells 1 Focus Point, DC 18; 1st Dazzling Flash
Feats Domain Initiate, General Training, Natural Medicine, Student Of The Canon, Turn Undead
Other Abilities absalom, anathema, cloistered cleric, deity, divine font, divine spellcasting, doctrine, first doctrine, sun

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As you can see, she's missing a general feat and a skill feat, has too many skills, too many languages, and her AC, perception, and saves don't match up. Note: "too many" compared to the published stat block. And she's missing those two feats because I can't see what they should be. Also, I'm treating "Scribing Lore" as what the blog calls "Library Lore", which is probably wrong, but I couldn't find anything that would give "Library Lore" specifically. I thought "Librarian" was a valid Background, but I couldn't find it, and besides, she's already got Acolyte.

Whenever I see a character stat block like this I try to build the character in Herolab Online. With Lisavet, I figure there's some authorial fiat going on, or something's missing from the stat block, or I'm just missing something in her description.

NPCs no longer follow PC build rules. It's not "authorial fiat". It's that the rules for NPCs are different in PF2.

Fair enough. What rules do they follow?

Fair enough. What rules do they follow?

Making your own creatures fleshes out your game world and lets you introduce concepts not yet available in published products like the Bestiary volumes. These guidelines help you customize creatures to your specifications and explore your imagination. From strange beasts to canny political rivals, you have the power to design creatures that fit the narrative needs of your story.

Building Creatures Chapter (pgs 56-73)
Creatures aren't built the same way PCs are. The rules for building them are more flexible, and their statistics are based on benchmark final numbers rather than combining each individual modifier together. This is called top-down design, in which you consider the design process as a whole and select the details that reflect your intended result, rather than building statistics from the bottom up and hoping the finished creature matches your vision.

This guide provides a stop by step process to build creatures, but as you get more comfortable with creature creation, you may prefer to use different methods. You could start with one ability you think is cool, or you might look to create a spellcaster of a certain type. There's no wrong starting place or wrong way to compile and present your creation. (snip)
Designing NPCs
Sometimes you’ll design a creature that’s meant to have abilities or characteristics similar to those of a PC. Maybe you need a bold champion, a sly rogue master criminal, or a wizened druid elder for your game. You also might need a common baker, who has little combat ability but great skill with dough and an oven. This section provides ways you might modify aspects of the creature-building process to fit those needs.

AoN Building Creatures

You guys are derailing the discussion, tho. This thread is about whether or not I should try re-reading the Deathgate Cycle.

Does anyone know if we will be getting the other characters for this since it seems to have paused halfway through for tales of lost omens stuff.

We have the other two ready to go. I plan to release them around the time we compile the novella into an eBook and offer it for sale.

Ed Reppert wrote:

Whenever I see a character stat block like this I try to build the character in Herolab Online. With Lisavet, I figure there's some authorial fiat going on, or something's missing from the stat block, or I'm just missing something in her description.

NPCs no longer follow PC build rules. It's not "authorial fiat". It's that the rules for NPCs are different in PF2.

This ia absolutely correct. NPCs have their own rules to build them, and they follow the monster building guidelines. We absolutely "flavor" them like character classes, with Focus Points and such, but they're not intended to be player characters and therefore won't ever line up like that.

In fact, it's pretty rare to call them the same name as a character class (fighter, cleric, etc.), because they aren't built like the classes--here, however, it made some sense because that's the role they have in the story. I might have called Lisavet a "priest" or "scholar" rather than a "cleric" in another context.

Look to our pregens if you want to see characters built like those a player would make.

We have the other two ready to go. I plan to release them around the time we compile the novella into an eBook and offer it for sale.

Just a reminder the epub book went up for sale three weeks ago.

It's pretty crushing that the other 3 characters (Eleukas, Gristlebrust and Wendlyn) all had character art with transparent PNGs and this one is a non-transparent JPG. The lack of consistency is a bummer.

Hm. Where might I find this character art, and hopefully stat blocks for the characters?

Hm. Where might I find this character art, and hopefully stat blocks for the characters?

Top of this page. Click the "Otari" tag to see the rest

Thanks. A question: Will we ever know more about Lisavet and Wendylyn's family? We know that Lisavet is the younger half-sister of Wendylyn, and that Lisavet is human and Wendylyn is half-elven. This implies that their common parent is Wendylyn's human parent, but which parents (maybe all three?) did the raising? Also, how old are these women? Wendylyn could be considerably older than Lisavet, or they could be close in age.

So many questions.

This is a very specific nitpicky request, I apologize, but is there a png transparent background image available of Lisavet? The other 3 Otari characters have transparent backgrounds in their posts except for Lisavet. I'm hoping to use all 3 of them in my AV game in Foundry and I just wanted to keep my character image previews consistent with the transparency, especially with official Pathfinder characters.

BTW I adore all 4 of them in their short story adventure!

Thank you!