Age of Ashes (Team Dahak)

Game Master Delta Arena

Yeah, absolutely. The information is kinda scattered. The good news... it seems like you can do it almost right away!

There was an errata about two months ago (I just found out about this errata) made to strix feats in preparation for call of the wild and the awakened ancestry. The errata is meant to allow for earlier flight throughout.

Nestling fall is no longer a feat. Strix take no falling damage by default now. In its place, fledgling flight is a level 1 feat now. Fledgling flight is a once per round single-action action that allows you to fly 15 ft. although you do need to land by the end of your movement.

Going forward, there is also Juvenile flight (there is not actually a once per day on that, I double checked on pathbuilder, demiplane and discord.) at lvl 5 and fully flighted at lvl 9.

As for carrying, you can comfortably carry up to 5 + strength. With the carrying limit being 10 + strength. Vrosi, being a medium sized character, weights 6 bulk and it would take both hands to carry him, and he would be grabbed while you carry him (which shouldn't be an issue if you are just carrying him during your turn). To grab a hold of Vrosi it would take an interact action to pick up, obviously with Vrosi agreeing to be picked up. Dropping is a free action, as usual.

Those carrying limits do take into account all the bulk you are carrying though, not just lifting Vrosi. So any armour and equipment you have with you gets added to those 6 bulk from Vrosi.

Right now your carrying capacity is 5 unencumbered and 10 encumbered. Since you are changing nestling fall for fledling flight (at least I'd assume you'd want to do that) feel free to redestribute your ability scores to increase your strength to carry more.

Bonus time!

We are using free archetype, which begins at lvl 2. In looking this up I came across the winged warrior archetype which you might want to take a look at. It is also a new archetype from call of the wild.

There are also magical items such as the lifting belt that increase your bulk carrying limits.

Yeah, absolutely. The information is kinda scattered. The good news... it seems like you can do it almost right away!

There was an errata about two months ago (I just found out about this errata) made to strix feats in preparation for call of the wild and the awakened ancestry. The errata is meant to allow for earlier flight throughout.

Nestling fall is no longer a feat. Strix take no falling damage by default now. In its place, fledgling flight is a level 1 feat now. Fledgling flight is a once per round single-action action that allows you to fly 15 ft. although you do need to land by the end of your movement.

Going forward, there is also Juvenile flight (there is not actually a once per day on that, I double checked on pathbuilder, demiplane and discord.) at lvl 5 and fully flighted at lvl 9.

As for carrying, you can comfortably carry up to 5 + strength. With the carrying limit being 10 + strength. Vrosi, being a medium sized character, weights 6 bulk and it would take both hands to carry him, and he would be grabbed while you carry him (which shouldn't be an issue if you are just carrying him during your turn). To grab a hold of Vrosi it would take an interact action to pick up, obviously with Vrosi agreeing to be picked up. Dropping is a free action, as usual.

Those carrying limits do take into account all the bulk you are carrying though, not just lifting Vrosi. So any armour and equipment you have with you gets added to those 6 bulk from Vrosi.

Right now your carrying capacity is 5 unencumbered and 10 encumbered. Since you are changing nestling fall for fledling flight (at least I'd assume you'd want to do that) feel free to redestribute your ability scores to increase your strength to carry more.

Bonus time!

We are using free archetype, which begins at lvl 2. In looking...

It is like you are reading the boards AND reading my mind. Winged Warrior is one of the only things that I have found that made the journey from 1E and arrived VASTLY improved. In 1E, it was a Strix-only fighter archetype, and somewhat kinda sorta cool, in its own very limited way.

In 2E though, it really flourishes. Like I've never read a archetype I wanted to go a greater distance with, even some of the cooler Dark Archives archtypes.

I will get into Pathbuilder in just a bit to take a look. A 25' flight once per round at 5th Level is actually awesome tbh.

I will be away Tuesday and Wednesday the 3rd and 4th of September.

It is definitely a super cool archetype. It has a lot of personality, and it makes sense that they opened it up to any winged characters.

I like that we get xp for killing the halfling, but do we get anything for killing the big lizard?

You did, you got 60xp on August 6th.

Speaking of experience, depending on whether you want to be thorough or not in exploring every room and facing every encounter, we could consider fast progression. Or a mix between fast progression and normal progression on a per level basis.

Any thoughts?

I am actually a fan of Mile stone leveling. I use it in all my games. Xp is such a pain to track (plus I am a lazy player/DM nowadays).

You know, I never want to miss out on a story element, but I know that these initial levels are kind of meant to be burned through to get to the meat of things.

I also know that this particular 'dungeon' crawl can kind of be undone by 'taking a left turn' which we did. So now we go back to slogging through the castle room by room? That would NOT be my first choice.

Milestones are a great mechanic and a great reward. Great for pacing too. TOTALLY in favor.

I am totally up for milestones as well. It's what I use with my main in-person table.

I've run APs with XPs and with milestones. I like the idea of XP, but it is a real pain, especially if the PCs *need* random encounters to get up to level.

I tend to use milestones because then the players are not so XP-hungry.

Seems like we are in agreement then.

Sorry for disappearing, these last days have been crazy.

I also like milestones, but given my inexperience with 2e, I'd say anything that keeps us balanced with the encounters is fine.

Does this mean we can drop the XP tracking? I think I've already lost track of mine.

As already stated and approved, Mosquito will be altered at 2nd. I should have him ready for our next foray this week....

He most likely will not take Hellknight dedication since he won't have Heavy Armor Proficiency until 3rd...

At 3rd he probably will Retrain his Cleric Feat from 2nd to Hellknight dedication.

Markus, yes, we can drop XP tracking. And with milestones it should be safe to keep you balanced with the encounters.

Mosquito, will you be changing your deity to someone more in-line with the measure and the chain? Or your feats? Or is it just going to be the ability scores?

I will be on vacation from the 12th to the 23rd. I will have my phone and the pdfs with me but I will very likely have very little time. Apologies in advance.

He will have a complete overhaul including deity.

Or not!

I did alter his Ability Scores (Str and Dex), but decided to keep him Fun!

He should be ready to go!

I have started updating Markus, but I still have to do the Free Archetype thing, so I need to read a few rules. May take a few days.

Hmmm...I forgot the Free Archetype.... finish him up after work....

Hmmm...I forgot the Free Archetype.... finish him up after work....

It could be that Breachill is going to be Cayden's secret weapon in his takeover of Golarion because of its freewheeling attitude towards "lifestyle" (partying)

prior to and/or in lieu of that ruling, it would be great if Mosquito
mentioned which last call he heads to, just in case anyone else might want to be performing there

Didn't have any particular pub in mind....

But the goblin is going full Cayden Cailian this evening so follow your ears....

I am having a hard time deciding on his Free Archetype. Fighter does fit him, plus he probably would enjoy the extra hp .... eventually.

Didn't have any particular pub in mind....

But the goblin is going full Cayden Cailian this evening so follow your ears....

I am having a hard time deciding on his Free Archetype. Fighter does fit him, plus he probably would enjoy the extra hp .... eventually.

Well if you pick a place, Kiilo can stop by AND pretend Mosq can sing AND accompany him if you want.

What's your vision of the FA? Like something else entirely, or a facet of CC's portfolio, or what? If you read a bunch of CC's background, it is actually interesting that he was a sellsword/mercenary, and not just an alcoholic, prior to the Test of the Starstone.

EDIT: and here's my 2 cp
You just wrote like an epiphany post, so why you wouldn't follow that up with Blessed One, I am not exactly sure. That said, I also wasn't even aware that Weapon Improvisor existed, and tbh, that reads a lot like "dude who likes to fight in taverns"
Just my thoughts

I was considering Fighter because of CC's background actually...lol.

My initial character for my home group's run at AoA was a Half-Elf Cleric of Irori (Cloistered) [Champion/ Medic] 20.

Trying to stay away from Anything remotely like that .. except Cleric apparently.

So far Fighter, Martial Artist or Acrobatic is in the lead....

Fighter seems redundant at 3rd when he gets Martial weapon Proficiency.

Breachill might just be that secret weapon, as it even has a temple dedicated to Cayden Cailean, the Cayden's Keg tavern, where Brynne would be happy to meet a fellow cleric of Cayden! Not only that, but knowing you just came back from your call of heroes assignment, she would be overjoyed to have a night of heroic storytelling and drinking.

As for archetype suggestions, Bastion could be a good option for a "tanky" build.

Markus, do you have any ideas of what kind of Archetype you would like?

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

Yuppers. And every even level you can take another Feat from that Dedication.

Free Archetype really allows nice customization.

Yuppers. And every even level you can take another Feat from that Dedication.

Free Archetype really allows nice customization.

Acrobat is also one of the feats that gives you automatic talent increase too, letting you save your elective increases for something else.

Going Martial Artist!

Stumbling Stance sold me ..lol.

I will play him as if drunk...hahaha! Go Cayden Cailian!

Ok. I have been struggling with Mosquito's build for quite a while. His original build was a Fighter, but we needed a Healer.

I am asking the group if I can totally rebuild him into a Swashbuckler and give him the Medic Dedication as his Free Archetype?

Would you still be comfortable with that Healer route?

If our Bard wouldn't mind handling out emergency Soothes to help balance it out it should work.

Mosquito as a Cleric doesn't feel right if that makes sense. Besides my initial run through AoA was a Cleric, so ....

Thank you! Swashbuckler instead of Fighter because feels more Cayden Cailian.

I do think our group composition is good. A Barbarian [Wrestler], a Swashbuckler [Medic], a Wizard [?], and a Bard [?].

If our Wizard ever need advice, I have played a PF2e Wizard to 20th in Extinction Curse AP. Really powerful feeling class after a bit. I really enjoyed it.

@ Markus and Kiilo Any thoughts on your Free Archetypes?

@ Vrosi Burnis it appears that you are going Wrestling to apply Off-Guard Conditions reliably? I am considering Fencer, but if you are already Grabbing then perhaps Battle Dancer Wit (seems more Mosquito) to help our Casters?

I am currently playing a Battle Dancer in a Rusthenge PbP (really fun) but that ends at 5th, I believe.

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

Apologies!

Familiar options

Familiar Rules

Familiars can be very fun and useful. Pick what kind you want and each Daily Preparation you choose 1 Familiar Ability and 1 Master Ability. You can change them daily so experiment.

Your Familiar is a Pet and has the Minion Trait, so usually you will need to use 1 Action to Command it giving it 2 Actions.

My Alchemist and my Witch both have Familiars. One is extremely useful the other mostly comic relief...lol.

Ok. I have been struggling with Mosquito's build for quite a while. His original build was a Fighter, but we needed a Healer.

I am asking the group if I can totally rebuild him into a Swashbuckler and give him the Medic Dedication as his Free Archetype?

Would you still be comfortable with that Healer route?

If our Bard wouldn't mind handling out emergency Soothes to help balance it out it should work.

Mosquito as a Cleric doesn't feel right if that makes sense. Besides my initial run through AoA was a Cleric, so ....

Thank you! Swashbuckler instead of Fighter because feels more Cayden Cailian.

I do think our group composition is good. A Barbarian [Wrestler], a Swashbuckler [Medic], a Wizard [?], and a Bard [?].

If our Wizard ever need advice, I have played a PF2e Wizard to 20th in Extinction Curse AP. Really powerful feeling class after a bit. I really enjoyed it.

@ Markus and Kiilo Any thoughts on your Free Archetypes?

@ Vrosi Burnis it appears that you are going Wrestling to apply Off-Guard Conditions reliably? I am considering Fencer, but if you are already Grabbing then perhaps Battle Dancer Wit (seems more Mosquito) to help our Casters?

I am currently playing a Battle Dancer in a Rusthenge PbP (really fun) but that ends at 5th, I believe.

WOW - how did I not mention this!?

Winged Warrior (from Howl of the Wild) -- there is very very (very) little that has come over from PF1 and been even remotely improved; I would hardly have expected it to be this. But WW was a Strix Fighter Archetype, somewhat cool in PF1, but not nearly as cool as it is here in PF2. Allows Kiilo to grow as a Bard, get some amazing wing related powers, and overall imporve himself themeatically. Also doesn't take anything away from him being the magical healer (he has no intention of picking up medical skills either). I think the balance is really good this way, because as we see in Kenabres, there is very little non-combat value to divine/magical healing outside of combat.

The battledancing cat from Rusthenge is rather fun ;) and tbh, I thought for sure that was going to continue into 7 for Sandpoint. I could be wrong though. And YES to any wondering ... Mr Grey and I cross over into not 1, not 2, but FOUR campaigns if I am correct.

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

tbh this seems like a great choice, and to your question, because you would be re-training your arcane bond from your mother's ring to this familiar, the base access to the familiar would come from your class, and taking the Free Archtype would actually gain you the Enhanced Familiar Feat. Love that!

Markus Swick wrote:

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

tbh this seems like a great choice, and to your question, because you would be re-training your arcane bond from your mother's ring to this familiar, the base access to the familiar would come from your class, and taking the Free Archtype would actually gain you the Enhanced Familiar Feat. Love that!

Unless he wanted to continue with his current Arcane Thesis and just pick up basic Familiar now and Enhanced @4th with FA Feat.

(Psst... that's how I would do it).

But yes your Arcane Bond would transfer to the Familiar.

@ Kiilo you are probably correct in Rusthenge getting to 7th.

Games? 4....AoA, Rusthenge, WotR and Dead Suns!

Kiilo wrote:

Markus Swick wrote:

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

tbh this seems like a great choice, and to your question, because you would be re-training your arcane bond from your mother's ring to this familiar, the base access to the familiar would come from your class, and taking the Free Archtype would actually gain you the Enhanced Familiar Feat. Love that!

Unless he wanted to continue with his current Arcane Thesis and just pick up basic Familiar now and Enhanced @4th with FA Feat.

(Psst... that's how I would do it).

But yes your Arcane Bond would transfer to the Familiar.

I would totally be willing to fight about this one, but we can leave it to Markus: for me, I would rather get a free 4th level Feat way way early, especially given that there 3 4th level choices for Familiar Master. But that's just me. I'm not opposed to the idea of a Wizard having both a Familiar and an Arcane Bond though, that's pretty playable.

Your argument has good merit. I actually forgot to peek at the other 4th level options....my bad ..lol.

Kiilo wrote:

Markus Swick wrote:

The one that caught my eye is Familiar Master. So I just get the respective dedication feat and that's it?

tbh this seems like a great choice, and to your question, because you would be re-training your arcane bond from your mother's ring to this familiar, the base access to the familiar would come from your class, and taking the Free Archtype would actually gain you the Enhanced Familiar Feat. Love that!

Unless he wanted to continue with his current Arcane Thesis and just pick up basic Familiar now and Enhanced @4th with FA Feat.

(Psst... that's how I would do it).

But yes your Arcane Bond would transfer to the Familiar.

@ Kiilo you are probably correct in Rusthenge getting to 7th.

Games? 4....AoA, Rusthenge, WotR and Dead Suns!

Rusthenge is actually the gateway/entrypoint for 7 Dooms for Sandpoint, and that goes to 11th - would be kinda cool I think.

"Return to the town where it all began with the Seven Dooms for Sandpoint Adventure Path—a full campaign for 4th- to 11th-level characters that is presented in its entirety in this super-sized volume! Seven Dooms for Sandpoint also includes an updated snapshot of Sandpoint as it stands today, complete with ways to interact with and influence the townsfolk. More Thassilonian secrets, exciting new treasures, and a bestiary of dangerous new monsters round out this milestone Adventure Path volume."

Psst...I may be already playing in a Seven Dooms PbP game ...

If the Table is cool with such a dramatic mechanical change (but definitely not any rp changes) then I will get him done tonight.

I suppose that Swashbuckler dedication and Acrobatics dedication (@10th) would also do the trick, keeping him Cleric if folks are better with that?

I suppose that Swashbuckler dedication and Acrobatics dedication (@10th) would also do the trick, keeping him Cleric if folks are better with that?

What I want to hear more is YOUR vision; let me be candid, your epiphany post was pretty awesome. So if you want him to be a fighter, I get that, so do you blend in Champion or just make him a Champion? He sounded a lot like one in that post ...

The flavour thing with Medicine versus the Heal Font as a cleric is also sort of a storytelling thing, but keep in mind that a second level Champion with Deity's Domain & Desperate Prayer is functionally working with 3 focus points at 2nd Level; that is a LOT of healing.

Just my thoughts, but as you know from Kenabres, I think these thoughts frequently.

Going with Swashbuckler dedication. It gives him that Cayden Cailian juiciness with the Cleric stuff. Win. Win.

I am already playing a Champion so ...but you are correct about the basically Infinite healing from LoHs. We just hand wave out of combat healing...lol.

If someone would pick up either LoHs Focus spell, Good Berry focus spell or Continual Recovery Feat for out of combat, we will be fine. Adding Ward Medic would speed that process up also.

Going with Swashbuckler dedication. It gives him that Cayden Cailian juiciness with the Cleric stuff. Win. Win.

I am already playing a Champion so ...but you are correct about the basically Infinite healing from LoHs. We just hand wave out of combat healing...lol.

If someone would pick up either LoHs Focus spell, Good Berry focus spell or Continual Recovery Feat for out of combat, we will be fine. Adding Ward Medic would speed that process up also.

it is a TOTAL handwave, because the 10 minute refresh to refocus from prayer isn't really different that the 10 minute treatment time, and LoH is sexier that gauze pads

But this is goodness
He's basically Samuel Adams at this point:
Brewer/Patriot -- Cleric/Swashbuckler
Works for me!

Mosquito is ready for our return to exploring the basement of the Citadel!

He feels really good about this venture....

From what I could tell I can have 2 familiar abilities. Also, I have a Fox, which has scent locked. But with this archetype I'll get 2 more abilities. I'll update my character later this week.

It's really quiet!!!!! My birthday was yesterday!!! I love Breachill!!! I hate Celiax!!!

Happy bday!

Happy burpday!

Everyone almost leveled?

Ready to go!!

I'm updated. Need to pick my extra familiar abilities, but it's not an issue.

I'm finally back after not having had time for much of anything during my vacations!