[Gameday XII] PFS1e #9-09: Beyond the Halflight Path (Core) (Inactive)

Game Master roll4initiative

The first 6 players to dot & delete in the Gameplay thread get a spot in the game!!!

Markus and Salvio have already done so.

4 spots left!

2 spots left!

Farlen & Lil"Eschie? Still interested? You have about 3 hours until I post a shout out in Flaxseed recruitment.

As already said: I could play, but only a pregen as I have no free CORE character in range.

However, which players/characters are still committed to your game?
I thought Damiar and Iovo Apastron dropped out (see below), so currently there are only two (Markus and Salvio). Or am I mistaken and they joined the game again?

Pursuant to a previous conversation with the GM, Damiar and Iovo will be dropping from this campaign.

Thanks for understanding!
Hmm

Conditions changed and we rejoined the game.

Conditions changed and we rejoined the game.

Thanks for making that clear for me. :-)

As already said: I could play, but only a pregen as I have no free CORE character in range.

Ok. Jump in! We only have a couple days so I'd like to get a group together as soon as possible.

Thanks, I'm in! :-D

Will this be higher or lower subtier?
This will decide if the pregen will be level 4 or 7...
I suspekt lower, but please confirm.

I am thinking about playing Kyra - does that fit the group?
Or do we need some other role filled?

Currently, If you bring the level 4, the APL is 4.4 and rounds down to 4, which means you'll play subtier 3-4 with no adjustment.

If you bring the level 7, APL is exactly 5. You'll play subtier 6-7 with 4 character adjustment. I'll suggest this option since there are a level 5 & 6 in the group.
Edit: hard to suggest with only Core PCs.

I don't know if we'll get a 6th player to join us, though. A 6th player would probably change which tier we do.

Edit edit: Oh, wow. I just realized we still have over a week 'til we start. I thought it was this Monday coming up.

Still interested, but not sure what the tier is now. Farlen is 5th level. Is there still room?

I think there's still room, Farlen. With you, and if kaervek78 takes a 4th level pregen it looks like the APL is (3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 4 + 5)/6 = 4.5. That would give us the choice of either T6-7 with the 4-character adjustment or T3-4 as written for 6 characters...I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Still interested, but not sure what the tier is now. Farlen is 5th level. Is there still room?

You're in, Farlen! Salvio's math looks correct. With 5 or more players, I'm pretty sure you all will have to play up with 4 PC adjustment.

Salvio is correct(see quote below) - if I bring a level 4 pregen, we could play down without 4-character adjustments, as we players have the option to decide to round down to APL=4.

We would have to play up (with 4-character adjustments) if we players choose to round up to APL=5. But in that case I think I should pick a level 7 pregen in order to give us a better chance to succeed.

However, I do not want to get anyone killed if we play in higher tier just because I chose a level 7 pregen (which would deny the other players the chance to decide if we play up or down).
But in corner cases, the picking the level of the pregen is up to the GM (see below)...

In order to determine which subtier a mixed-level group of PCs must play in, calculate the group’s Average Party Level (APL). Divide the total number of character levels by the number of characters in the party, rounding to the nearest whole number.

If the result of the Average Party Level calculation ends with 0.5, the players should decide whether to round up or down.

The selection of pregenerated characters might affect the APL. In some cases, there is one pregenerated character level that is clearly more fitting to the PCs’ levels, such as when all or most of the PCs fall in the same subtier. In corner cases, the GM should choose the level of pregenerated characters to provide a fun and fair experience for her table.

Scenarios in Seasons 0 through 3 were designed for four characters. For these scenarios, if the APL is between subtiers, a party of six or seven characters must play the higher subtier. Parties with four or five characters must play the lower subtier.

Starting with Season 4, scenarios were designed for six characters and contained methods to adjust for tables with four players. When the APL of a table is between two subtiers (like APL 3 for a Tier 1–5 scenario), a party of four characters must play the lower tier without any adjustments for party size. A party of five to seven characters whose APL falls between two subtiers must play the higher tier with the four-character adjustments found throughout the scenario.

In the fringe case where there are no PCs that are high enough level to have reached the subtier level (such as a party of six 3rd-level characters), the group can decide to play the lower subtier.

I feel more comfortable with having you bring a level 4 pregen. I kinda don't want you playing a pregen higher level than anyone else in the group. Is that cool?

Given how tough this scenario can be, I think we would be better off low tier.

Awesome. We're all set with 6 players.

Recruitment is closed!

@Kaervek78, it would be pretty funny if you played the pregen bard, sorcerer, or wizard, but, totally up to you who to bring.

I look forward to running this game for you all.

Lower tier it is, then - fine for me.
I will decide on a pregen in the next 1-2 days.

Looking forward to playing with y'all! ;-)

Should be fun! Enjoy a good challenge from these adventures :D

@Kaervek78, it would be pretty funny if you played the pregen bard, sorcerer, or wizard, but, totally up to you who to bring.

Wizard it is. ;-)

GM Roll4initiative wrote:

@Kaervek78, it would be pretty funny if you played the pregen bard, sorcerer, or wizard, but, totally up to you who to bring.

Wizard it is. ;-)

Do we really need more than half the group be Wizards?

The other characters are:
Damiar Bard 5
Iovo Wizard 3/Rogue 3
Farlen Wizard 5
Salvio Wizard 3
Marcus Monk 4

This is a hard dungeon, and balanced parties are more likely to succeed. Seelah the Paladin would be my first choice, but Kyra the cleric or Valeros the fighter would also be good.

There is a folder filled with BB Code for the Pregens that could make it easier to make the switch.

Yeah. Maybe go with the Paladin or Cleric.

Paladin works for me, too.

@GM Roll4initiative: Please remove Ezren from the campaign.

Ezren has 0 posts. You could just rename him to Seelah.

Ezren has 0 posts. You could just rename him to Seelah.

I already made a new alias for Seelah, so I kept Ezren as is. His time will come, he will get his chance... ;-)

Thanks for the link to the folder filled with BB Code for the Pregens, it really made it easier!
However, I found an error in Seelah's sheet for Level 4: Power Attack is not -2/+6 but -2/+4, as she is using a longsword and a heavy shield...
Who can correct this there?
(It seems this error exists already in the PDF of the Paladin pregen and for all levels. I do not know why the designers assumed she attacks with a 2H weapon...)

The rules as I understand them is to run PreGens as printed. We are only allowed to change them when the VTT tool doesn’t allow us a reasonable way to override it.

Since they are PF1 PreGens, they will never get fixed.

I was trying to dig for an answer or posts about Seelah's power attack typo on Paizo. I was thinking maybe the designer added in Smite Evil to damage, but that wouldn't be right since extra damage is equal to level for smite.

Huh. I guess you'll have to run her as is. *Shrug*