GM Roll4initiative |
Greetings! This is the sign up/recruitment thread for the evergreen scenario #9-09: Beyond the Halflight Path for levels 3-7.
This is a PFS1e Core Campaign game!
Please be sure your PC is registered as Core.
This is not a FCFS game. I will be choosing PCs for a well-balanced group. However, It may come down to lottery/dice rolls to choose from the applicants. To have a good chance of being chosen, please be sure you have a complete and tidy PC tagline & profile. I will look over profiles to make sure they are Core.
(Be sure to double check that your 2 starting traits are from the Character Traits Web Enhancement and not a different source. This is the #1 error that I find with Core PCs.)
Standard posting rates apply: 1-2 posts/day & 1/weekend. I tend to post about twice everyday to keep the narrative flowing and the action moving. I don't "bot" PCs, however, another player is welcome to bot if you wish.
Without further ado...
To be considered for this game, please post the following information:
Player name/Alias:
PFS #:
Character's Name:
Race, Class, & Level:
PC Faction:
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?:
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?:
Sylvester Solstar |
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Player name/Alias: Mage of the Wyrmkin
PFS #: 115226 - 11
Character's Name: Sylvester Solstar
Race, Class, & Level: Gnome, Sorcerer, 6
PC Faction: Dark Archive
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?: Yes I played this in standard (arc 6) with a different character of course. :)
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?: He has a pet dog called Shaggy that he uses as a mount. This is a purchased animal and he is getting long in the tooth. How long can this poor dog survive? Can Shaggy make it to seeker level? It is a challenge. :)
Mallycorn Tavee |
Player name/Alias: Lil"Eschie
PFS #:133884-18
Character's Name:Mallycorn Tavee
Race, Class, & Level: Cleric 4 -Pharasma
PC Faction: Sovereign Court
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?: nope
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?: Knowledge and Healing Domains
GM Roll4initiative |
Player name/Alias: Lil"Eschie
PFS #:133884-18
Character's Name:Mallycorn Tavee
Race, Class, & Level: Cleric 4 -Pharasma
PC Faction: Sovereign Court
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?: nope
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?: Knowledge and Healing Domains
Uh oh... Neither of your Character Traits are from the Character Traits Web Enhancement, which means they aren't Core.
As stated in the introduction...
Be sure to double check that your 2 starting traits are from the Character Traits Web Enhancement and not a different source. This is the #1 error that I find with Core PCs.
Go ahead and swap out those traits for ones from the Character Traits Web Enhancement.
GM Roll4initiative |
Here's a link to my Character Traits Web Enhancement in Google Drive.
All traits in the document are legal except for the following: Hedge Magician, Natural-Born Leader, and Rich Parents
Farlen Mizzul |
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Player/Alias: Wydroe
PFS#: 165069-12
Character Name: Farlen Mizzul
Race, class, and level: Human Wizard (Conjuror) 5
PC Faction: Grand Lodge
Plyd or GM'd this Scenario: Played in standard
To know about Farlen: He does not have a large variety of spells. I neglect his spell book work often. I think he needs his level up on the boards though. I will work on this shortly.
Note: I have a 4th level human cleric of Erastil, also, if he would fit the mix better. PFS#:165069-13.
Iovo Apastron |
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Player name/Alias: BretI
PFS #: 141981-19
Character's Name: Iovo Apastron
Race, Class, & Level: Elf, Rogue 3 / Wiz (Diviner) 3 (6th level character)
PC Faction: Dark Archive
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?: Yes, played it and think I prepped to GM it.
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?:
Has a twin sister Damiar who is mostly retired. Most of her early adventures were with her sister.
Is from the jungles of the elvish homelands. Allows people to assume she means Kyonin when she really is from Sovyrian, Castrovel. No mechanical benefit
Trap Spotter
Forewarned - can always act in surprise rounds
Has extensive Botting including door procedure
GM Roll4initiative |
Lol...
If the next couple of players apply with a wizard or sorcerer, I might have to cut this off to FCFS!
Totally went beyond my expectations for sign ups!
This might be an all wizard/arcane party (with a bit of support from multiclassing).
Still waiting for Lil"Eschie/Mallycorn's reply regarding their Starting Traits. So at least you'll have a cleric/healer.
GM Roll4initiative |
Iovo Apastron wrote:I have put out a couple of feelers, see if I can’t get a dwarven fighter or (less likely) a bard to join. My character isn’t exactly a powerhouse…No luck on the dwarven fighter. The player doesn’t play PF1 anymore, is concentrating on PF2.
Thank you for trying. We still have 3 weeks to go, though.
There's a possibility we'll get a few more sign ups. I am really liking the idea of all sorcerer & wizards.GM Roll4initiative |
Unfortunately, all I have as Core character in that level range is ...
Another Sorcerer. (Sorc5, Celestial Bloodline).
Awesome.
I'll give it some thought about an all arcane party or a well-balanced group (fighter, divine, arcane, support).
It is a very challenging scenario for a core group. Especially a core group of just arcane casters.
GM Roll4initiative |
I'm just compiling PCs in order submitted for ease of reference. (This doesn't mean you're guaranteed a spot, however, judging from the amount of signups so far, you most likely will have a spot).
Sylvester, Sorcerer (Drac) 6
Salvio, Wizard (Uni) 3
Lil" Eschie, Sorcerer (Celest) 5
Farlen, Wizard (Conj) 5
Iovo, Rogue 3/Wizard (Div) 3
Damiar, Bard 5
Damiar Apastron |
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My twin, Iovo, said I should apply.
Player name/Alias: Hmm
PFS #: 820-7
Character's Name: Damiar Apastron
Race, Class, & Level: Elf Bard 5
PC Faction: Dark Archive
Played or GM'd this (Stnd or Core)?: GM'ed it multiple times, years ago. I loved how the scenario contained multiple story seeds and lots of flexibility. However, I have not played PF1 in about 5 years, so I've forgotten lots of details.
Anything else about your PC you would like the GM or the other players to know?:
I have all the standard bard stuff, but my sister and I bring endless chaos to any table. We're from the elven homeland. Not Kyonin, but the real elven homeland.
Iovo Apastron |
So is it worth considering waiting with this game until after the PF1 special finishes?
That would allow people here with a level 3-4 character to join Roll4Initiative’s core table of the special and since his table has a fighter and a cleric maybe allow for a more balanced group for this scenario.
Unfortunately his table has a level 2 character, so I could not switch to his table of the PF1 special. You are not allowed to have both someone from the tier below and the tier above.
Yes, I’m still worried that this unbalanced a table would have problems.
GM Roll4initiative |
Hmm. Interesting. I'm all for waiting for the Special to end before starting this one up, as long as everyone else is okay with it. I think the last 1e Special I ran went pretty quick.
I'm wondering if we'll have enough time to finish this one before the end date. Although, I have seen a few scenarios go past the end date.
Maybe the player who signed up with a level 2 for the Special has a PC in tier. I'll check with them later.
Edit: The last Special I ran did go the full 2 months.
Sylvester Solstar |
^This make sense either you start the game on time or you remove it from the Gameday and run it afterwards.
I would not be overly concerned about the party make up. It is not like wizards and sorcerers are weak classes anyways especially in Core. Players will just have keep up their defences and stay on their toes. :)
GM Roll4initiative |
Those listed below may sign in at RPGChronicles Here!
After that, you may dot (and delete!) in the gameplay thread, or, feel free to introduce yourselves to one another and engage in some roleplay while you wait in VC Ambrus Valsin's office.
Sylvester, Sorcerer (Drac) 6
Salvio, Wizard (Uni) 3
Farlen, Wizard (Conj) 5
Iovo, Rogue 3/Wizard (Div) 3
Damiar, Bard 5
@Lil' Eschie: If you want in, you will need to swap out your starting traits for legal Core traits on whichever PC you bring (you should probably do it on both, just to get it out of the way). Let me know in this thread when you do.
GM Roll4initiative |
Ok... we're down to 4 players.
Those listed below may sign in at RPGChronicles Here!
After that, you may dot (and delete!) in the gameplay thread, or, feel free to introduce yourselves to one another and engage in some roleplay before the game starts.
Sylvester, Sorcerer (Drac) 6
Lil" Eschie, Sorcerer (Celest) 5
Salvio, Wizard (Uni) 3
Farlen, Wizard (Conj) 5
Looks like sub-tier 3-4, no adjustment. May the gods have mercy on your souls.
Sylvester Solstar |
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It would probably be best if you capped the level of future applicants so that the game remains low tier. I fear that tier 6-7 could be a TPK for this group as it is a tough adventure. :)
So some quick math leads me to conclude that another player (5th) should be restricted to third level. If we had six players in total then the combined levels of the two new characters should be no more than eight.
The way that tiers are calculated is not entirely logical (adding players makes the game easier not harder) but these are the rules. :)
GM Roll4initiative |
^Really? Where are you getting this information?
If you look on the sign up spreadsheet, the only Core tables we have for the Special is a 3-4 table and a 7-9 table. Your level 6 may be out of luck.
The Special doesn't do the normal tiers of 1-5, 3-7, 5-9, etc...
It goes: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 8-9, 10-11 for each table.
GM Roll4initiative |
Huh...you're right. I'd misread Redelia's post as implying you could only play one level above or below tier.
GMs are allowed to have one, and only one, out-of-tier PC at their table. I'm GMing the tier 3-4 table and I have a level 2 at it. I cannot also have a level 5 PC at the same table, unfortunately.
Sylvester Solstar |
Right in any game with multiple sub-tiers you can play with characters from two out of the three sub-tiers. So assuming a sub-tier of 8-9 you can either have characters ranging from 5-9 or characters ranging from 8-11.
It is a matter of sub-tiers not characters that is limited (two out of three). The 8-9 table already has one 7th level character already so the range of characters is set from 5-9. At least that is my understanding of the rules. :)
GM Roll4initiative |
Right in any game with multiple sub-tiers you can play with characters from two out of the three sub-tiers. So assuming a sub-tier of 8-9 you can either have characters ranging from 5-9 or characters ranging from 8-11.
It is a matter of sub-tiers not characters that is limited (two out of three). At least that is my understanding of the rules. :)
No, you can't. You're misunderstanding. In an 8-9 table (for any multi-table Special), you can only have levels 7-10, but, only one player can be level 7 or 10.
I'd like to know where you're getting your info from?
It was my suggestion to only have a tier 3-4 table and a tier 8-9 table for the Special. We left out all the other tiers because from my experience, we have many players in range of those tiers for a Core table. Your level 6 PC cannot join in either of those tables.
Sylvester Solstar |
Generally you can have characters playing out of tier either up or down (but not both) at a multi-tier table like a special. Redelia and TOZ both confirmed this fact in the event thread (and they are both very experienced GMs) and it makes sense as all the 1-7 games I have played in worked this way.
I have quoted you both from the event thread.
I am going to review the season 10 guide as well and see what it says. It is always best to go to the original source material.
roll4initiative wrote:Your memory is correct. We will not be changing the tiers we display, because those are the official tiers. It's not just level 7 characters who can play at a table adjoining their proper tier, it is all characters, although you can't have an out of tier character on each side at a table.Regarding the Year of the Shadow lodge Special:
If you notice on the chronicle, there is no tier 7 listed. From what I remember playing this in the past was that 7th level PCs could play in tier 5-6 or 8-9. I don't remember the reasoning nor can I find the thread/post that addresses it.
You might want to adjust the tiers on the table list for 5-6 and 8-9 to be 5-7 and 7-9.
Edit: or just have 7th level PCs at the 8-9 table. *shrug*
GM Roll4initiative |
Generally you can have characters playing out of tier either up or down (but not both) at a multi-tier table like a special. Redelia and TOZ both confirmed this fact in the event thread (and they are both very experienced GMs) and it makes sense as all the 1-7 games I have played in worked this way.
Where exactly did you get the information that you can only have 1 character out of tier and that they can only be one level up or down from the sub-tier listed?
Yeah. You're talking about tier 1-7 scenarios. Those are a different format than multi-table specials.
I've been a VO since 2012 and a PFS event organizer since 2010. As for your level 6 playing in the tier 8-9, feel free to ask one of the online VCs. They're going to tell you the same thing I did.
GM Roll4initiative |
Also, Regarding the level 7 PC (which is my PC, btw) at the tier 8-9 table:
It's because in the list of Subtiers I mentioned above, level 7 is not listed. A level 7 PC can play in the subtier 5-6 or 8-9 of the special.
Tomorrow I will see if I can get a mod to delete some of this banter since it has nothing to do with this game.
Enjoy the Special, Sylvester/MotWK
GM Roll4initiative |
Without Sylvester, the APL is 8 exactly (levels 8, 8, 7, 9), and with him it's 7.6. The Guide directs rounding to the nearest whole number, so I think this works out.
Thinking about it, though. I might be wrong about letting a level 6 into an 8-9. There's the issue with out-of-tier gold reward and the chronicle boon. Luckily, 5-6 & 8-9 have the same boon.
A level 6 PC should really be at the 5-6 table, which, unfortunately, we don't have in Core. However, it's better to accommodate a player rather than turn them away.
I would ask a VC. You can direct them to this thread for reference. My suggestion would be to allow a level 6 at the 8-9 table, but, they get the tier 5-6 rewards.
Sylvester Solstar |
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Alright I had a look at the Season 10 guide for clarity.
1) On page 11 the guide clearly states that in scenarios with more than two sub-tiers that characters must be in adjacent sub-tiers to play together. This applies to this special as well allowing both the level 6 and level 7 character to included in the 8-9 sub-tier. Clearly this is not the ideal situation but is within the rules. As Salvio correctly points out the sub-tier will not change with the addition of our characters so it all works out and is not disruptive to the other players.
2) On page 16 of the guide (step 5) for the calculation of gold it directs the GM to use the actual character level (not the average gold of the high and low sub-tiers played) to determine the gold reward for specials with 4 or more sub-tiers. Therefore Sylvester should get the tier 5-6 gold reward as GM Roll4initiative suggests.
Thanks for the thought and input. :)