Innistrad: An Unstable Realm (Inactive)

Game Master leinathan

Please don't feel bad if this PC dies. I've never expected that playing a demon PC is going to go smoothly.

Karthan doesn't know that is kind of the point. I mean, I can't think of any reason for him to know Li'Omrut or disagree with an angel about putting down the people that brought a demon into town. If she attacked innocent people or did some particularly wild stuff it might be different and the other questions can be hashed out later.

But at the moment I'm stuck in a pretty awful situation where I have to either jump some pretty crazy mental hoops to see why Karthan would jump to the defense of a demon or stick to the character and just try to keep innocent people from getting harmed and potentially letting a PC die.

Maybe my reasoning for Eliana attacking her will help. It's probably well known that the Goldnight Flight of angels joined Avacyn in her madness of trying to genocide the human race. This is pretty obviously a Goldnight with the fire and shit. She's screaming that "anyone who made a deal with the demon will die if unworthy." Considering how quickly she went to "burn down a building regardless of how many innocent people may get hurt", she's obviously not right in the head. Or, was Karthen not there to see that part?

TarkXT wrote:

Karthan doesn't know that is kind of the point. I mean, I can't think of any reason for him to know Li'Omrut or disagree with an angel about putting down the people that brought a demon into town. If she attacked innocent people or did some particularly wild stuff it might be different and the other questions can be hashed out later.

But at the moment I'm stuck in a pretty awful situation where I have to either jump some pretty crazy mental hoops to see why Karthan would jump to the defense of a demon or stick to the character and just try to keep innocent people from getting harmed and potentially letting a PC die.

Maybe my reasoning for Eliana attacking her will help. It's probably well known that the Goldnight Flight of angels joined Avacyn in her madness of trying to genocide the human race. This is pretty obviously a Goldnight with the fire and s*#%. She's screaming that "anyone who made a deal with the demon will die if unworthy." Considering how quickly she went to "burn down a building regardless of how many innocent people may get hurt", she's obviously not right in the head. Or, was Karthen not there to see that part?

I think it'd certainly help to vocalize that first bit will. Karthan just walked in as the angel was about to start the burnin. But, we talked her down and had her focus on the actual demon standing in the road and don't have much context outside of what's happening. Even then he'd probably still be concerned with the people actually their in the way of the burney burney murder angel.

Brolof wrote:

TarkXT wrote:

Karthan doesn't know that is kind of the point. I mean, I can't think of any reason for him to know Li'Omrut or disagree with an angel about putting down the people that brought a demon into town. If she attacked innocent people or did some particularly wild stuff it might be different and the other questions can be hashed out later.

But at the moment I'm stuck in a pretty awful situation where I have to either jump some pretty crazy mental hoops to see why Karthan would jump to the defense of a demon or stick to the character and just try to keep innocent people from getting harmed and potentially letting a PC die.

Maybe my reasoning for Eliana attacking her will help. It's probably well known that the Goldnight Flight of angels joined Avacyn in her madness of trying to genocide the human race. This is pretty obviously a Goldnight with the fire and s*#%. She's screaming that "anyone who made a deal with the demon will die if unworthy." Considering how quickly she went to "burn down a building regardless of how many innocent people may get hurt", she's obviously not right in the head. Or, was Karthen not there to see that part?

I think it'd certainly help to vocalize that first bit will. Karthan just walked in as the angel was about to start the burnin. But, we talked her down and had her focus on the actual demon standing in the road and don't have much context outside of what's happening. Even then he'd probably still be concerned with the people actually their in the way of the burney burney murder angel.

She'll make a small speech reminding people of the madness that engulfed Avacyn and the Flight of Goldnight, before literally stating she can see the madness surrounding this angel like a cloud. Before calling folks to help her defend their city from such insanity.

Paladin! Unite the party!

Paladin! Unite the party!

Gotta wait for my turn in the initiative. :V

Welp, thats a masquerade violation.

Guess all there is to do at this point is rp it out.

I have a post in mind but I'll wait for yours, Karthan.

Its coming theres just some bits and mechanics i need to get straight.

All done. Just trying to avoid confusion.

This fight right now.

Quick campaign. Party members kill each other in the first combat.

Nah. I tried to be as defensive as reasonably possible and get control of the angry mob so they dont all immeditely start trying to excise the corruption personally. I seriously doubt isabelas gonna do anything to actually trigger that readied action.

The whole thing will make the whole rest of everything incredibly awkward.

Wow, this is such a cool stand-off, I really had to think hard about her going to Vampire mode. My hope was the locals would run off and the angle would focus on her, not the locals. But seeing teamwork feats WORKING for the 1st time, so cool. Well done Karthan.

Going to have to wait for Tiame's post and others before posting Isabela actions.

But this Should send the angle over the Madness limit to full nut job.

What do you mean? I put my post down yesterday.

I was going on the headline sorry

Angel Battle, round 2

1. Karthan <--- You are up!
2. Taime <--- You are up!
3. Goldnight Angel
4. Li'omrut
5. Eliana (shield of faith) + Moonwing (shield of faith)
6. Isabela (internal armor, metamorphosis)
7. Crowd of Bystanders

Sorry for the delay! I went to Crater Lake this week, and then to visit my family and introduce them to some people. I will post the angel's action this evening, once a friend who is visiting has left.

In the future, if you would like to speed things up, you can pre-roll your action in the Discussion thread. Just post whatever you would post in Gameplay in a spoiler here, and I will incorporate it into the Gameplay thread when I am available to post.

@Isabela no worries I was just co fused whether the forums ate the posts again.

@leinathan no rush. sounds liie a fun time

Good to have friends round :)

GM could I ask, can Isabela sunder the angles sword with sonic energy?
I was in two minds as to whether she should try and break the Weapon or just go for damage on the Angle, it's why I placed it under a spoiler.

Not to be anal about this, but please refere to the celestial as angel, and not angle. I'm always imagining two intersecting lines fighting us when you write it that way and I giggle like a 5 year old.

An angel is a supernatural being in various religions.

In Euclidean geometry, an angle is the figure formed by two rays, called the sides of the angle, sharing a common endpoint, called the vertex of the angle

I think that if a spell or ability does not mention that you can perform combat maneuvers with it, then you cannot.

Wow, this is such a cool stand-off, I really had to think hard about her going to Vampire mode. My hope was the locals would run off and the angle would focus on her, not the locals. But seeing teamwork feats WORKING for the 1st time, so cool. Well done Karthan.

No, no teamwork feats are involved yet. Warlord is just packed full of support options.

Not to be anal about this, but please refere to the celestial as angel, and not angle. I'm always imagining two intersecting lines fighting us when you write it that way and I giggle like a 5 year old.

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An angel is a supernatural being in various religions.

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In Euclidean geometry, an angle is the figure formed by two rays, called the sides of the angle, sharing a common endpoint, called the vertex of the angle

I am severely dyslexic, what you see presented in my posts is me, writing, checking, rechecking, and then using 2 spell checkers, one being a state-of-the-art AI system, to pump out something like English. And even then some bad spelling and grammar gets past me. I do try my best.

I am not upset by your post, because how could you know. And I have very think skin. Skin gained from a lifetime of others who know of my dyslexia and still joke at my expense. I don't think you were joking at my expense by the way. You don't come over as that kind of person.

And there is an upside, where my brain fails to hold symbols connected to sounds, and patterns of letters shapes. It just remembers a complex internal model of reality. Along with relationships based on interlinked abstract ideas, images, and a kind of internal geometry. I do not think in sounds and words but in vast edifices of things. It's why I work in film and TV VFX. Thinking and Remembering complex 3d is as natural to me as thinking and remembering letters and words is to you.

So there is always an upside.

Poking fun at you was absolutely not my intention. I was merely pointing out the fact that - in my head - we are currently facing an angered object from elementary school geometry.

Now I feel like an idiot for writing that post. I assure you it was not ill-intentioned. Just thought it was an aggressive spellcheck or something of the sort.

With that said, I would like to apologise if it rubbed you or anyone else the wrong way. That was not something I was trying to achieve.

I'm. not at all upset, as I said you had no idea, and I try really hard to hide it. I just wanted to pop that in context and i'm can laugh at myself sometimes for some really inappropriate spelling that can happon.

Like the time a posted Testicle in place of tactical weapons. :)

or think in place of thick [see above :)

I count Isabela's AC as 27 (5 Dex, 7 armor, 5 shield, 1 deflection, 1 natural).[/ooc]

(10 +5Dex,+7armor,+5shield,+1deflection,+1natural)
I count that as AC29 what have I missed?

Oh, did I arithmetic wrong like an idiot?

Its kind of fun seeing all Karthan is doing while doing almost nothing at all. I flank from two different places, give some decent bonuses to a bunch of things and give the ability to flank through adjacency instead of being across like the kingmaker crpg.

Is Karthan armed with his sword? He doesn't flank if he doesn't threaten.

He is absolutely armed. Eve if he couldnt do it during the 5ft shift like i thought from earlier readying an attack is just a standard anyway so hes had plenty of actions since initiative started to pull it on the vampire. I wouldnt be even readying an attack if he didnt have his weapon out. Even in the case of flanking it only applies to eliana, her gryphon and the other humans around, not the demon nor the vampire.

If she wants to target the man whose only crime is protecting the people around him and save me the mental and emotional turmoil that would be a relief.

Seems his only crime is threatening her with a sword after she expressly told him to back up, then, doesn't it?

Correction, im threatening all the non-humans in the brawl and im small and weak and confused.

If you would like to convince the angel of something, you should roll some dice! If Isabela would like to roll, she cannot full defense and use Diplomacy at the same time.

Talking is a free action

as for convincing an angry angel of anything,

Diplomacy (Cha) Skill
Influence Attitude: Using Diplomacy to influence a creature’s attitude takes 1 minute of continuous interaction.

are you saying I should roll at the start of the 10 rounds [1 minute] of actions, to do this?

No, I'm saying that if you want to accomplish anything, you will need to roll some dice. If you just post dialogue, nothing will happen.

Understood

I'm trying to convince the angel to fall down with my attack rolls.

GM your game your rules, and done, lets see if it has an effect.

I can't tell what exactly Isabela is trying to convince this angel to do, using Diplomacy. To be honest I expected an Intimidate check. Could you clarify, before I resolve that Diplomacy check?

I think the other players get it, and she is basically threatening a load of local innocents and also acting like a psychopath. Hence their actions
so Isabela is trying to get the Angel to realize they are acting to save lives. See Eliana's last post. I think to get the angel to understand she has lost focus on what is important, to sever and protect the innocent.

Isabela trying to get the Angel to realize she is in danger of becoming fallen.

So to that end, I have a high-risk idea, go big or go home as they say.

Extremely high risk given present company.

Ah, I am looking at Isabela's statblock. Good thing I made a character that can spontaneously cast cure spells, eh?

My familiar doesn't know inflict wounds spells. At least not yet. Do you have any means of removing damage?

Waiting for Karthan to do his actions, then I will do mine.

Its really difficult for me to move on the phone. Im 1 square south of where im at now after my actions.

Edit: Finally made the site comply to my demands.

Taime, I've just noticed there's nowhere on your profile to keep track of your spells prepared and used. She hasn't used any yet, but it's still important to be able to keep track of what's been used and what's still available.

Fair. You want this in the profile or somewhere in posts directly?

Whichever will be kept up-to-date and be easy to find.

If it's helpful to anyone, I found it useful to put most basic stats in my alias' "Race" line and any thing that is a resource to be tracked in my alias' "Classes/Levels" line. That way I only have one line to worry about updating unless I'm leveling up.

Well, it's something, and I would usually use it for daily preparation stuff, but I'm at the character limit as it is. I will figure out something else along the way.

Edit: Right. Fixed, see link in my post header

Have any of our attacks actually hit and did anything?

I guess I forgot to narrate Karthan's hit, but yeah, Karthan/Li'omrut/Moonwing have all hit. The angel has DR, and none of you are very high damage dealers for your level, so it has been a lot of small chips.

Too bad Li'omrut gave up his FRA on the same round you went for Kill the Wounded.