PAIZOCON 2021 - PLAY-BY-POST: PFS2 2-12: Snakes in the Grass (GM Lysle Kapp)(23 Challenge Points) (Inactive)

Game Master Lysle

Start Date: May 28, 2021

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Devil We Know | Ashes of Discovery (Hellknights) | Ashes of Discovery (Desna)

As you may have gathered, we are essentially at the last encounter. Please make sure that your reporting information has been provided correctly.

I look forward to seeing what your PCs have to say (and possibly do?) during these closing negotiations.


PFS2 pregen | LG female (she/her) human champion (paladin) 5 | ◆◇↺ | AC 23 (25) | HP 78/78 shield 64/64 | P+8, F+12, R+8, W+10 | Explore: Defend | NV, 20' | Focus: 1/1 | Hero: 1/3 | Active Conditions: none

Mine has changed. I don't know how to revise it.

Previous: Aktuh (2358909-2006), Investigator 5

Revised: Potipher Perkins (2358909-2007), Witch 2


Devil We Know | Ashes of Discovery (Hellknights) | Ashes of Discovery (Desna)
Seelah Soup wrote:

Mine has changed. I don't know how to revise it.

Previous: Aktuh (2358909-2006), Investigator 5

Revised: Potipher Perkins (2358909-2007), Witch 2

I was able to update it. You should be good to go.


Ok, just to double check before i do some rolls:

1) They are unfriendly to me. They need to be friendly for me to even make a request. To get from unfiendly to friendly, i would need a crit success.

2) If I made that crit success and then tried to make a request, I would need another crit success to lock down the trade.

So, I basically need a pair of 20s (crits) to do the job?

Can we just do an assist on the make a request rolls from Sun Fire and/or Seelah?


PFS2 pregen | LG female (she/her) human champion (paladin) 5 | ◆◇↺ | AC 23 (25) | HP 78/78 shield 64/64 | P+8, F+12, R+8, W+10 | Explore: Defend | NV, 20' | Focus: 1/1 | Hero: 1/3 | Active Conditions: none
GM Valen wrote:
Seelah Soup wrote:

Mine has changed. I don't know how to revise it.

Previous: Aktuh (2358909-2006), Investigator 5

Revised: Potipher Perkins (2358909-2007), Witch 2

I was able to update it. You should be good to go.

Thank you! To be clear, I believe Potipher Mrs. Perkins's level means she will be getting a Chronicle for Level 3, to be applied when she reaches Level 3. Please leave her Downtime blank, as she will be Crafting and I don't know what stage she will be at when the Chronicle is applied.

Grand Archive

open | "Mrs. Perkins" | NG female (she/her) human (Irriseni) witch 5 | ◆◇↺ | AC 22 (23) | HP 43/43 | P+8, F+10, R+11, W+10 (bonuses vs witches, hags) | Explore: Search | NV, HOH, 25' | Spells 1st F [ ][ ] MA [X] 2nd SI [ ] S [ ] SW[ ] 3rd S [ ] H [ ] | Hero (1/3) | Active conditions: sick of your nonsense

Oh, look, someone with some proper manners in this Society.


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Randal T Meyer wrote:

Ok, just to double check before i do some rolls:

1) They are unfriendly to me. They need to be friendly for me to even make a request. To get from unfiendly to friendly, i would need a crit success.

Barring any special feats or such, that would appear to be correct

Randal T Meyer wrote:
2) If I made that crit success and then tried to make a request, I would need another crit success to lock down the trade.

Only a regular success if needed to succeed at a Request for a trade agreement. An EXCLUSIVE trade agreement (so the Aspis get nothing) requires a crit success. However, as noted, the DC for the Request is reduced for each piece of Evidence provided. There is, however, a penalty applied to subsequent attempts made after a crit failure.

If you want to peak behind the GM screen:
For each piece of Evidence the PCs present, the DC is reduced by 2. The PCs have 7 pieces of Evidence to present, so the DC is reduced by 14,
all but guaranteeing a success (i.e. a trade agreement) and making a crit success very likely.

Also having earned Eloqi’s respect by defeating the bulettes made him more inclined to give the PCs a second chance after they misspeak; the PCs have gained one-time reroll that they can use when attempting to influence Eloqi with a skill check in the future. This is a fortune effect.

Randal T Meyer wrote:
So, I basically need a pair of 20s (crits) to do the job?

See above. Only one PC needs to successfully Make a Request to secure a trade agreement. If both of the prolocutors each fail--even after using the above "second chance" or a Hero Point--then one of the remaining PCs may attempt to "step in" and secure the agreement. However, in the rare instance that this may be necessary, it would be, as you noted, a very difficult thing to do. But, given the party's objective as provided by Heidmarch, I would encourage the attempt under such circumstances.

Randal T Meyer wrote:
Can we just do an assist on the make a request rolls from Sun Fire and/or Seelah?

Absolutely. An assist would require a successful Diplomacy check and the regular rules for Aid would apply. However, I would rule that a PC that fails such an Aid attempt cannot independently make a subsequent Request.

I hope this was helpful.

With the party's make-up, I am confident that you can do this!


Ok, can I attempt to make them friendly in hopes of getting to make a request ... but failing to make them friendly enough to make my own request still be able to assist in the request of somebody else? I have red flags espionage boon and this is seemingly the optimal time to a chance at extra diplomacy crit fishing!

Horizon Hunters

M Bard 8 | HP (80/106) | AC 26 | F +13 R +16 W +12 | Perception +12 (Darkvision) | <+2 Init> Spells: F (1/2) 1: (3/3) 2: (2/3) 3:(1/3) 4:(0/3) | Fae 1/2/3 | GS(0/1) | hp (3/3)

As a note

I am amazed by the amount of work our Soupy Seelah has been putting in.

Sun Fire gets to use his exciting performance when making an impression, but requests are still the "lower" +10 for him. Gave it a shot though.


I had to try and see if I could help in some way. If I didn't crit fail then I guess we don't get my second roll ... although, I think I have a 2nd hero point ... shoot, gonna have to try to find time to count tomorrow.


Devil We Know | Ashes of Discovery (Hellknights) | Ashes of Discovery (Desna)

I will give everyone a chance to chime in on Morgroar's fate in the Gameplay thread before I decide Eloqi's verdict, but I am really enjoying the suggestions and roleplay thus far. I'll wrap up sometime tomorrow.

In the meantime, the game has been reported to the con folks, so you can expect your ACP to appear shortly.

Also, chronicles have been completed and can be found here! Please let me know of any changes or corrections.

Once I have confirmation of receipt from everyone or Friday rolls around (whichever comes sooner), I will mark this campaign inactive.

Thank you all again for a very fun run and I look forward to sharing a table with each of you in the future!

Horizon Hunters

M Bard 8 | HP (80/106) | AC 26 | F +13 R +16 W +12 | Perception +12 (Darkvision) | <+2 Init> Spells: F (1/2) 1: (3/3) 2: (2/3) 3:(1/3) 4:(0/3) | Fae 1/2/3 | GS(0/1) | hp (3/3)

Thanks Valen that was awesome.

Also big thanks to our Soupy Seelah for constantly pushing things forward with awesome engaged posts.

Horizon Hunters

GG Medium Swashbuckler 5 (She/Her) | HP 68/68 | AC 22 (23 with buckler/cape) | F +11 R +13 W +10 | Perc +10 | Speed 30/40ft | Active Conditions:

Yes thank you very much Valen, it was great fun. Good work on the scenario too, it felt very open and sandboxey which is always fun!

Grand Archive

Male LG Gold Kobold Investigator 5 | HP 51/51| AC 21 | F: +8, R: +12, W: +12 | Perc: +12 | Speed 25ft| Focus Pool: 1/1 | Hero points: 1/3 | Active conditions

Yes. Lots of Fun everyone. Even if i did not read as much as i normally do :)


Thank you so much, this was great!

My first time playing in Paizo's forums, and it was a good time!

(I did end up writing a browser plugin to alert me of new posts, though.)


PFS2 pregen | LG female (she/her) human champion (paladin) 5 | ◆◇↺ | AC 23 (25) | HP 78/78 shield 64/64 | P+8, F+12, R+8, W+10 | Explore: Defend | NV, 20' | Focus: 1/1 | Hero: 1/3 | Active Conditions: none

Got the Chronicle - it looks great, and the scenario was great too. Thanks for GMing and for writing it!


PFS2 pregen | LG female (she/her) human champion (paladin) 5 | ◆◇↺ | AC 23 (25) | HP 78/78 shield 64/64 | P+8, F+12, R+8, W+10 | Explore: Defend | NV, 20' | Focus: 1/1 | Hero: 1/3 | Active Conditions: none
Sun Fire Boom Boom wrote:
Also big thanks to our Soupy Seelah for constantly pushing things forward with awesome engaged posts.

Thanks!

The funny thing about Seelah is that I feel like she's a diplomat first and a warrior second. I think it's her very compelling backstory, I can't imagine that her first instinct is to grab a sword and murder everything.


Thanks again, sorry I dropped off towards the end!


Seelah Soup wrote:
Got the Chronicle - it looks great, and the scenario was great too. Thanks for GMing and for writing it!

Where, how? I seem to be missing the link. I checked both the urls in the slide, but don't see the chronicle.


Devil We Know | Ashes of Discovery (Hellknights) | Ashes of Discovery (Desna)
Randal T Meyer wrote:
Where, how? I seem to be missing the link. I checked both the urls in the slide, but don't see the chronicle.

There was a hyperlink in my prior post, but it leads to:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X_Jf-5-gb9wD9MwAj90z1zwB7xVLDN9_


GM Valen wrote:


There was a hyperlink in my prior post, but it leads to:

Wow, I had to read it twice more to see it. Sorry for the confusion, thank you!


Devil We Know | Ashes of Discovery (Hellknights) | Ashes of Discovery (Desna)
Randal T Meyer wrote:
GM Valen wrote:


There was a hyperlink in my prior post, but it leads to:
Wow, I had to read it twice more to see it. Sorry for the confusion, thank you!

Thank you for playing! Happy gaming!


I didn't see the downtime on the sheet, did I do something wrong or forget something? Or am I just not reading again?

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